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Irish 14/12: Is Feidir Linn!  
User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12427 posts, RR: 37
Posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 14676 times:

... or, as the newly elected (US) president might say, "yes, we can". Not quite sure exactly what it is we can do, but whatever it is, we can do it.

The previous thread title, "Storm clouds approaching", was somewhat prophetic, given the effect of Sandy, so maybe this will be too! Anyway, here's the link to that thread ...

So, just to recap: what's been happening:

- We have been given an early indication that despite all of MO'L's assurances and attempts to get other airlines to operate routes, the EU Commission is still not convinced. A decision is due in March (I think?)
- New routes for the Gathering: US Airways to Shannon
- More capacity from EI, with the return of the A332 from the United lease
- The Aer Lingus/DAA pension issue rumbles on, though hoped now that disruption can be avoided
- Traffic at DUB continues to run significantly ahead of last year and
- EI reporting strong Q3 traffic (albeit stronger on longer haul than short haul)

Probably a few other things too, but I can't quite recall !

Anyway, this being more than likely the last thread of 2012, I think we end the year with Irish aviation being significantly better than it was this time last year, with a lot more hope, in what is still a pretty fragile economic environment ...

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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26902 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 14690 times:

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
- The Aer Lingus/DAA pension issue rumbles on, though hoped now that disruption can be avoided

I wonder will Aer Lingus ever be free from strike threats. Just when you think things are getting back to normal another strike comes along. Its very damaging to the brand and the confidence of passengers booking in advance for festive periods and holidays.

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On a more positive note :

Aer Lingus wins 'Best Airline to Europe ex. Belfast' for third consecutive year

Aer Lingus has announced its success in the Northern Ireland Travel and Tourism Awards 2012, winning the 'Best Airline to Europe ex. Belfast' Award for the third year in a row. The accolade was received at a ceremony held at the Slieve Donard Resort and Spa.

http://www.traveldailynews.com/news/...51972/aer-lingus-wins-best-airline

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User currently offlineshamrock104 From Ireland, joined Sep 2000, 523 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 14695 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
I wonder will Aer Lingus ever be free from strike threats. Just when you think things are getting back to normal another strike comes along. Its very damaging to the brand and the confidence of passengers booking in advance for festive periods and holidays.

Agreed. Despite EI offering good value fares and times for my coming trips over the coming weeks I have had to steer clear - simply cannot risk being grounded due to a strike. Its very offputting indeed. Shame as I would like to support them over bigger European rivals.


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12427 posts, RR: 37
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 14708 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
Aer Lingus wins 'Best Airline to Europe ex. Belfast' for third consecutive year

In other news, Air Koryo has been voted No1 international carrier ex-Pyongyang!

(I know EI are in a different league, but it's not as if there's a huge level of competition out of Belfast to Europe!)

Quoting shamrock104 (Reply 2):
Agreed. Despite EI offering good value fares and times for my coming trips over the coming weeks I have had to steer clear - simply cannot risk being grounded due to a strike. Its very offputting indeed. Shame as I would like to support them over bigger European rivals.

I don't have much of a choice as it's either EI or FR (possibly BE) on the routes I fly; just don't want to be bothered with FR, but if EI mess things up for me, I'll be extremely annoyed.

Reported today that a Jet2 757 suffered a birdstrike while making an emergency diversion to ORK:

http://avherald.com/h?article=458dabe5&opt=1


User currently offlineDublinspotter From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2011, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 14691 times:

Hi

Quoting OA260 (Reply 1):
On a more positive note :

Aer Lingus wins 'Best Airline to Europe ex. Belfast' for third consecutive year

Aer Lingus has announced its success in the Northern Ireland Travel and Tourism Awards 2012, winning the 'Best Airline to Europe ex. Belfast' Award for the third year in a row. The accolade was received at a ceremony held at the Slieve Donard Resort and Spa.

Last week I was at BHD for work experience and the loads so far on at LGW and LHR flights are quite healthy, according to the sheets of passenger loads they showed me for EI, They do add a bit of colour on the stand at the airport...

Dublinspotter  



Dublinspotter :)
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26902 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 14692 times:

Quoting shamrock104 (Reply 2):
Agreed. Despite EI offering good value fares and times for my coming trips over the coming weeks I have had to steer clear - simply cannot risk being grounded due to a strike.

Same here . Wont risk it over the next few weeks.

Quoting kaitak (Reply 3):
In other news, Air Koryo has been voted No1 international carrier ex-Pyongyang!

Well I didnt like to say  
Quoting Dublinspotter (Reply 4):
Last week I was at BHD for work experience and the loads so far on at LGW and LHR flights are quite healthy,

Good to know , one would expect EI to do well on LGW/LHR. The test will be on future routes further than the UK.


User currently offlinecaptainmeeerkat From Russia, joined Aug 2010, 386 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 14692 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 5):
Same here . Wont risk it over the next few weeks.

I went the other way and decided to book them on the 19th Nov from DUB-LHR. I need to go to LHR and EI were the only option for logistical reasons.

As someone who has never been overly impressed with the EI service, I will never fly them again if they disrupt my plans. Nor will I allow my family or staff to fly them in the future. Can't the staff see that they are shooting themselves in the feet? I don't deny they have a genuine grievance but this is not the way to go about it - especially when market perception is such an important part of the business.



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User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 14698 times:
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Quoting captainmeeerkat (Reply 6):
As someone who has never been overly impressed with the EI service, I will never fly them again if they disrupt my plans. Nor will I allow my family or staff to fly them in the future. Can't the staff see that they are shooting themselves in the feet? I don't deny they have a genuine grievance but this is not the way to go about it - especially when market perception is such an important part of the business.

While it is not a good barometer I can tell you that none of the EI staff members I call friends/acquaintances who I talked to over the last 2-3 weeks are in a mood for strike. They want to get back some of what they paid into the pension and be free so they can start afresh. none of them want strike and like yourself are wondering why SIPTU are being so militant. (Keep in mind that probably all of those talked to are not SIPTU members)
It galls me that SIPTU that make media statements absolving the companies of any culpability in the problem but then call strike to force them to step up and help out. (On the other EI refusal to go to binding arbitration seems a bit recalcitrant) Personally, with how the situation looks from media information I think getting 66% back is pretty good.


User currently offlinenightfox365 From Ireland, joined Jul 2011, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 14698 times:

Small Plane crash in Birr, Co.offaly

Quote:

Emergency services and the garda helicopter have located a small plane which crashed in Co Offaly this evening.

There were two men on board the plane when it crashed some 3km from Birr earlier today.

The condition of the plane’s occupants is unknown at this stage.

Gardaí were notified at about 4.50pm today that all contact had been lost between Air Traffic Control and the aircraft.

A search began at 6.30pm with the assistance of the Garda air support and other emergency services

The wreckage of a Cessna Light Training aircraft was discovered at Clonkelly Upper, Birr, Co Offaly.

A Garda spokesman was unable to confirm whether those on board were injured or give details of their well being.

“It’s a dark evening and the emergency services have important work to do,” said the spokesman.

“We hope to know more later this evening.”

It is understood the site of the wreckage is near an airfield used by light aircraft.

“The plane may have been trying to land in the nearby airfield,” the spokesman added.
The Air Accident Investigation Unit (Dept of Transport) have been notified.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/1111/breaking27.html



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User currently offlinethediplomat From Ireland, joined Jun 2006, 382 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 14694 times:

I note on PPRUNE that FlyBe are to suspend WAT BHX between 6 January and 17 February. This does not bode well for the southern city. It sounds like Galway all over again.

This airport has played a major role in European aviation history - Ryanair's first route was from Waterford to Gatwick and looks increasingly like it may lose all service by the end of next year.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4166 posts, RR: 13
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 14696 times:

Quoting thediplomat (Reply 9):
I note on PPRUNE that FlyBe are to suspend WAT BHX between 6 January and 17 February. This does not bode well for the southern city. It sounds like Galway all over again.

This airport has played a major role in European aviation history - Ryanair's first route was from Waterford to Gatwick and looks increasingly like it may lose all service by the end of next year.

Indeed - it's another airport that is simply up against it - with much of it's catchment area having use of the M9, and thus speedy access to DUB, it always has to compete against the frequency and fares at DUB.

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
Traffic at DUB continues to run significantly ahead of last year and
- EI reporting strong Q3 traffic (albeit stronger on longer haul than short haul)

Just to dissect those numbers a little, traffic at DUB on Continental Europe was up by 14% in Oct. None of that growth came from EI jugding by their short haul numbers, and so it must be assumed that FR must have contributed somewhat to the 14% figure. FR also have not cut back at DUB this winter by anything like the level of the last three years. Perhaps we are now at a situation where they may begin to grow at DUB again?



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User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4166 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 14697 times:

It seems this may finally be the end for the FR attempted take over:

"The EU is to serve formal objections against Ryanair’s third proposed takeover of Aer Lingus, after Europe’s largest low-cost carrier by revenues failed to offer concessions that address all Brussels’s competition concerns about the deal"



http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...nance/2012/1112/1224326470955.html


All I can say is "thank god!" I much prefer these two airlines as viscious competitors..... 



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User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 14694 times:
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Quoting thediplomat (Reply 9):
This airport has played a major role in European aviation history - Ryanair's first route was from Waterford to Gatwick and looks increasingly like it may lose all service by the end of next year.

Yes it is quite sad but probably a somewhat necessary step that will probably be good in the long run in that like the effective closeure of SXL and GWY, will help consolidate passenger traffic at ORK. We have all said that Ireland has too many airports given the size of the country. WAT did give us FR and it will always have that claim to fame but the reality is that is just isn't needed anymore.

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 11):
All I can say is "thank god!" I much prefer these two airlines as viscious competitors.....

Thank God is right! That said, I also don't want to se EI being absorbed into the likes of IAG either. If they could just get this pensions thing solved and tempt EY into buying a nice healthy shareholding....



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User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4166 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 14695 times:

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 12):
Thank God is right! That said, I also don't want to se EI being absorbed into the likes of IAG either. If they could just get this pensions thing solved and tempt EY into buying a nice healthy shareholding....

I'd prefer something that allowed EI to pursue it's own growth ambitions rather than just becoming a feeder airline for BA - I think EY may offer that possibility but it depends of course what it's management has in mind!



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User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1468 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 14694 times:

Sorry to report that RTE now reporting two occupants dead in the crash of a Cessna 150 near Birr Airfield.

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26902 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 14698 times:

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 14):

Indeed very sad news RIP to both Pilots .


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26902 posts, RR: 58
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 14694 times:

Start the re protections !

Strike action at Aer Lingus is set to go ahead next Monday after SIPTU shop stewards refused to withdraw their notice of industrial action.

It had been hoped that the two-hour stoppage over pensions would be called off after a five point plan to resolve the row was proposed by employers' body IBEC and ICTU.


http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1112/aer-lingus-action.html


User currently offlinechrisnh From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4092 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 14695 times:

Hello from New Hampshire...I was wondering whether the Boston services are among the more profitable for Aer Lingus since there is no other carrier willing to compete? I do notice an uplift in capacity coming to Boston in 2013; terrific to see!

User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 14699 times:
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Quoting OA260 (Reply 16):
Strike action at Aer Lingus is set to go ahead next Monday after SIPTU shop stewards refused to withdraw their notice of industrial action.

I had hoped that the IBEC/ICTU intervention would calm thing down.

I understand the union's desire to have further wage cuts off the table but for SIPTU officials to say that they are "not in a position to withdraw the notice of industrial action" is laughable.


User currently offlineeham From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 14697 times:

Tomorrow (13/11) KLM operates a Fokker 100 charter into DUB, final chance to see a KLM Fokker 100 as these aircraft are in their final stages of operation. KL7141 (PH-OFP) seems to be schduled for this flight.

User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4166 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 14699 times:

Quoting eham (Reply 19):

Excellent! It's been quite a while since we saw KL in DUB!



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User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2885 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 14696 times:

Is é an todhchaí na heitiltí Aer Arann Islands in amhras:

http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland...epopulate-aran-islands-213576.html

(The government subsidies for the Aer Arann Islands flights between the Aran Islands and Aerfort na Minna in Connemara are in doubt as Budget 2013 approaches.)

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 17):
Hello from New Hampshire...I was wondering whether the Boston services are among the more profitable for Aer Lingus since there is no other carrier willing to compete? I do notice an uplift in capacity coming to Boston in 2013; terrific to see!

It would seem BOS is quite a lucrative market for EI based on the capacity increases alone that we have seen and continue to see. SNN-BOS has increased from 3x weekly to 4x weekly during the summer months and now obviously the near-double daily DUB-BOS schedule taking effect from next summer.

Interesting to note that there will be three Ireland-BOS flights on Mon/Wed/Fri/Sun, two on Thu/Sat and just one on Tue based on current Summer 2013 schedules.



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User currently offlinePhen From Ireland, joined Oct 2007, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14699 times:

Good news about the FR bid; I hope this is the last time they'll try.

I'm currently watching a documentary on the design and manufacture of the 777 back in the 90s, and one particular piece of it shows a map of the world where different parts of the aircraft were made. Interestingly there seems to be a dot over Ireland in this graphic and it would appear that the nose gear doors were made there. Now I suspect this is in fact supposed to be another dot over the UK and not Ireland but I can't be sure - can anyone else shed some light?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...er_detailpage&v=gZ8kSqOS_H4#t=182s


User currently offlineoneworld77 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14700 times:

EI Regional are not affected by strike action right? But ground crew will be?
Just trying to weigh my options for a short trip and whethe it's worth my while to do it on a route that has only 4/5 flights a week.

In ORK who handles EIR? Is it like Dub, a contractor wearing the EI uniform, or is it EI?

Thanks for any help!!!



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User currently offlinePenPusher From Ireland, joined Oct 2000, 81 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14701 times:

Quoting eham (Reply 19):
KLM operates a Fokker 100 charter into DUB

I remember some NLM Cityhopper F28 flights in 1978(?) but can't remember any KLM flights into Dublin,,,,,the KLM scheduled service was way before my time  


User currently offlineRichcandy From UK - England, joined Aug 2001, 719 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14785 times:

Quoting Phen (Reply 22):
Good news about the FR bid; I hope this is the last time they'll try.

I'm currently watching a documentary on the design and manufacture of the 777 back in the 90s, and one particular piece of it shows a map of the world where different parts of the aircraft were made. Interestingly there seems to be a dot over Ireland in this graphic and it would appear that the nose gear doors were made there. Now I suspect this is in fact supposed to be another dot over the UK and not Ireland but I can't be sure - can anyone else shed some light?

Bombardier (Shorts) in Belfast made various parts for both Boeing and Airbus. Could it be them?


User currently offlinerufusisgod From Ireland, joined Nov 2008, 91 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14810 times:

EIR's ground staff are - Sky handling for ground ops ( baggage, loading , dispatch & tug etc) but EI do the check-in and boarding of the flights.

User currently offlinechrisnh From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4092 posts, RR: 2
Reply 27, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 15002 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 21):
It would seem BOS is quite a lucrative market for EI based on the capacity increases alone that we have seen and continue to see. SNN-BOS has increased from 3x weekly to 4x weekly during the summer months and now obviously the near-double daily DUB-BOS schedule taking effect from next summer.

Interesting to note that there will be three Ireland-BOS flights on Mon/Wed/Fri/Sun, two on Thu/Sat and just one on Tue based on current Summer 2013 schedules.

EI may want to BUY a Boston gate outright. Lots of talk about new carriers coming: Qatar, Turkish, probably Emirates, too. And now that JAL is banging out their Tokyo daily 787, China can't be far off. The last thing EI wants is for a gate to be occupied when one of their three A330s comes into Logan. I would imagine that being one of the 'originals' at Logan...and Boston being so heavily Irish...EI will get exceptionally favorable treatment at Logan if gates become constrained. It's not nice to come into a country on a long transatlantic flight to wait on a remote stand for a gate to open up.

As 787s come on-line with international carriers, Boston will look very appealing. It is a very 'long-and-thin' destination, and if the number of new flights and carriers increase here (a certainty) and the number of new gates doesn't (a certainty), then there won't be too much 'empty' time for those gates...especially in the summer when EVERYONE is doubling up. I don't know if Buying a gate gains them any more protection than Leasing does. But I do know that when you Lease a gate, it still never really is yours...


User currently offlinePhen From Ireland, joined Oct 2007, 317 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 14963 times:

Quoting Richcandy (Reply 25):

Ah yes that may well be it...


User currently offlineirishair98 From Ireland, joined Dec 2011, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 14980 times:
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Did EI Buy a gate at ORD because they always seem to be using M5


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User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4166 posts, RR: 13
Reply 30, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14968 times:

Quoting irishair98 (Reply 29):
Did EI Buy a gate at ORD because they always seem to be using M5

I think the use of gate M5 at ORD is because of its position relative to an area where passengers can be brought through the arrivals process without the need to go near the immigration area (as they will have cleared at DUB)

Quoting chrisnh (Reply 27):
EI may want to BUY a Boston gate outright. Lots of talk about new carriers coming: Qatar, Turkish, probably Emirates, too. And now that JAL is banging out their Tokyo daily 787, China can't be far off. The last thing EI wants is for a gate to be occupied when one of their three A330s comes into Logan. I would imagine that being one of the 'originals' at Logan...and Boston being so heavily Irish...EI will get exceptionally favorable treatment at Logan if gates become constrained. It's not nice to come into a country on a long transatlantic flight to wait on a remote stand for a gate to open up.

Could EI not move to another terminal at BOS if all flights ex Ireland were pre-cleared at CBP in DUB/SNN? Might be a solution to crowding in Terminal E?



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User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4166 posts, RR: 13
Reply 31, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 14979 times:

Stumbled upon an interesting site:

www.flytodublin.com

It's from the DAA, and is a B2B site to encourage new routes.

One quite interesting table, a list of the top ten connecting destinations in each of long and short haul:

Long Haul

1 Sydney
2 Toronto
3 San Francisco
4 New York
5 Los Angeles
6 Boston
7 Orlando
8 Washington
9 Bangkok
10 Miami


Short Haul
1 Moscow
2 Helsinki
3 Gothenberg
4 Rome
5 Berlin
6 Paris
7 Munich
8 Stockholm
9 Luxembourg
10 Milan

It's interesting to note that a number of these are already served directly and would seem to suggest a capacity shortage on certain routes.

Notably, in the long haul sector, a number of these destinations have already been secured, or had services added.



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User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 32, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14970 times:
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Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 31):
One quite interesting table, a list of the top ten connecting destinations in each of long and short haul:

The three that jump out as being unexpected are New York, Boston and Paris. Could also be though more to do with passengers not originating at DUB wanting to fly with certain airlines to accumulate FF miles with a particular airline or alliance or perhaps they are business travellers whose companies have deals with certain airlines or travel agents. Sydney certainly isn't a surprise. In fact, the only thing that surprises me about that is that it is the only city in Australia that made that list. San Francisco is interesting from the point of view that tech companies have been lobbying for a DUB-SFO service for some time now. Perhaps UA should be given this data. Could potentially be DUB's first 787 service (presuming EY or EK don't beat them to it).



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User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4166 posts, RR: 13
Reply 33, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14965 times:

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 32):
The three that jump out as being unexpected are New York, Boston and Paris

Certainly where New York and Boston are concerned, I would suggest this had a lot to do with the very high fares in the market this year on direct services. Some pax undoubtedly sought better deals via Paris or Amsterdam.

However, connecting elsewhere on a short flight to Paris, when there are no less than 12 daily direct services offered is a surprise indeed!



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User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1468 posts, RR: 3
Reply 34, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 14963 times:

Interesting that so few Asian destinations show in the list, despite sizeable communities here and comments on this board going back years about Asian prospects. No China, Singapore, Malaysia or Phillipines. Only BKK.

Also interesting how many routes that have been tried before feature, including LAX, SFO and LUX.


User currently offlineeirbus06 From Ireland, joined Apr 2006, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 35, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 14983 times:

At ORK, we've seen some of KLM's metal over the last few years, diversions only though!   KLM MD-11 @ ORK

KLM 747 @ ORK


User currently offlinenightfox365 From Ireland, joined Jul 2011, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 14975 times:

Tony, EY have already stated that they will operate their 787-9's into Dublin when they get them in 2016 I think it is.


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User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 37, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 14963 times:
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Quoting nightfox365 (Reply 36):
Tony, EY have already stated that they will operate their 787-9's into Dublin when they get them in 2016 I think it is.

Yes I am aware of that but I was reading another thread talking about new UA international destionation and a B787 SFO-DUB was mentioned by a good few posters. 2016 is a while off yet so it is well possible that someone could beat EY to it!

Just saw this on the RTE website.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1113/eu-carbon-emission.html

Sounds like the greenies are pissed! Would they not be better off targeting industries that produce the vast majority of carbon emissions and do nothing to reduce them rather than an industry that only produces a tiny percentage and has constantly invested in newer greener technology?

[Edited 2012-11-13 04:08:58]

[Edited 2012-11-13 04:09:24]


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Reply 38, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 14970 times:
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Just found this cool video on YouTube that I hadn't seen before

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnWO-hlcZRQ

Well worth a watch!



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26902 posts, RR: 58
Reply 39, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 14957 times:

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 33):
However, connecting elsewhere on a short flight to Paris, when there are no less than 12 daily direct services offered is a surprise indeed!

Could be for various reasons. If you are in an FF Alliance program it sometimes makes sense. I was always surprised at the onward EU connections on my LX flights DUB-ZRH. Many where EI or another carrier had direct flights.

Seems EI might combine flights some with A330 and others may be operated by chartered in A/C . Some interesting things to spot at DUB maybe next Monday .


User currently offlineEIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 419 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 14911 times:

What connections are there that would realisticly get you to Paris where your FF scheme doesn't apply on a direct? The obvious one is WX via LCY... but the direct is covered. BA via LHR - you can get BA miles on EI still?

BE sell DUB-CDG tickets - via CFN and GLA, 8 hours end to end... couldn't find any other non-contrived ones on a quick look.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4166 posts, RR: 13
Reply 41, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 14914 times:

Quoting EIDL (Reply 40):
What connections are there that would realisticly get you to Paris where your FF scheme doesn't apply on a direct? The obvious one is WX via LCY... but the direct is covered. BA via LHR - you can get BA miles on EI still?

BE sell DUB-CDG tickets - via CFN and GLA, 8 hours end to end... couldn't find any other non-contrived ones on a quick look.

Yup, it's an odd one alright. I thought that as no figures are actually shown, perhaps this is more DAA's list of "wants" as opposed to an actual statistical top ten.

Perhaps they are simply pushing for growth on routes where they think a suitable carrier already exists..... (there's the conspiracy theorist in me...)



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User currently offlineaerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2826 posts, RR: 15
Reply 42, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 14937 times:

Hi

Leaving DUB last night I saw VS A346 G-VFOX towed out, all white. Anyone have more info? Me first time seeing a -600 up close, man those engines are impressive! Dwarfed the FX A300 parked next to it.

Thanks



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26902 posts, RR: 58
Reply 43, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 14904 times:

Quoting EIDL (Reply 40):

What direct flight DUB-CDG would you earn Star Alliance miles on? Im not talking "partner" agreements here but on full members of Star Alliance . Thats why I mentioned LX as an example.


User currently offlinePilot21 From Ireland, joined Oct 1999, 1384 posts, RR: 2
Reply 44, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 14911 times:

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 42):
Leaving DUB last night I saw VS A346 G-VFOX towed out, all white. Anyone have more info?

Was being painted white after it's lease came to an end with VS. Flew DUB-Manila to go into maintenance this afternoon.

Pilot21



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User currently offlineEIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 419 posts, RR: 0
Reply 45, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 14899 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 43):
What direct flight DUB-CDG would you earn Star Alliance miles on? Im not talking "partner" agreements here but on full members of Star Alliance . Thats why I mentioned LX as an example.

None of them, but similarly I can't see a *A airline coming on to that route.

I would consider changing in FRA or ZRH to be getting towards contrived - the overall journey time and price would be enough to make whoever is paying the bills for even the most hardened FF balk. If there's more than even one person a year that makes that journey by choice I'd be astounded.


User currently offlineaerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2826 posts, RR: 15
Reply 46, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 14892 times:

Quoting Pilot21 (Reply 44):

Ah thanks. I was hoping it was just in for a repaint  



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User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4166 posts, RR: 13
Reply 47, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 14905 times:

Quoting EIDL (Reply 45):
None of them, but similarly I can't see a *A airline coming on to that route.

I would consider changing in FRA or ZRH to be getting towards contrived - the overall journey time and price would be enough to make whoever is paying the bills for even the most hardened FF balk. If there's more than even one person a year that makes that journey by choice I'd be astounded.

The more I reflect on this list, the more I think it is aimed at existing DUB airlines to expand existing service or add some new points.

I also find it extremely hard to believe that so many are connecting to Paris of all places via an intermediate point. However, it may be a hint at an existing airline to add frequency.

Interestingly enough, EI are increasing CDG to 4 times daily on certain weekdays from S13.



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User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 48, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 14939 times:
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On an odd note MoL was on Ei125 DUB-ORD last week, in J class transferrign onto Denver....make of that what you will.

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 47):

The more I reflect on this list, the more I think it is aimed at existing DUB airlines to expand existing service or add some new points.

Christy Mueller recently stated that EI must grow their network 'organically' to remain effective in their position.....

...I have no idea what that means.....


I still contend that with SFO/LAX as prominent final dests for DUB outbound traffic EI must make a move in this area. 21% of their revenue is from interline/non-EI traffice. If another airline jumps into West Coast-DUB then EI will see this figure drop and loads on their DUB-ORD drop sharply.


Oh for the opportunity to ask questions directly to that man.....


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26902 posts, RR: 58
Reply 49, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14905 times:

Quoting EIDL (Reply 45):

Again you would be surprised at some Airlines transit figures from DUB to ZRH/FRA and beyond to random European cities that have direct flights. You would also be surprised at the fares.


User currently offlineal2637 From Ireland, joined Oct 2006, 407 posts, RR: 3
Reply 50, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 14908 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 39):
Could be for various reasons. If you are in an FF Alliance program it sometimes makes sense.

Yup, I've flown AMS-LCY-DUB a few times in order to get FlyingBue miles/status. This is despite the EI/KL codeshare, as AMS-DUB cannot be booked with a KL flight number (only with a long haul connection). And I wasn't the only one doing the run. It must only be a matter of time before KL start operating directly, or get WX to operate a DUB-AMS.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26902 posts, RR: 58
Reply 51, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 14918 times:

Quoting al2637 (Reply 50):

Thats a nice route Via LCY actually   I could fly DUB-ATH Direct with EI in Summer but 99% take LX or another Star carrier to get status miles. Used to do the BD/A3 combo too but my next flights back to ATH are BA/BA and I made sure to get on BA metal all the way .

Would be nice to see KL metal on the route DUB-AMS.

Looking at a random example DUB-BCN 6th Feb for one week is €158 (Plus Fare) on EI and €169 with LX. Thats the nearest like for like with bags on both carriers. Id certainly take the LX option if I wanted the miles. Do a bit of duty free shopping in ZRH and your actually saving.


User currently offlineShamrock137 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 52, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 14961 times:

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 30):
Could EI not move to another terminal at BOS if all flights ex Ireland were pre-cleared at CBP in DUB/SNN? Might be a solution to crowding in Terminal E?

Yes, this is what they will be doing in JFK by switching to T5, a domestic arrivals terminal. I wonder if they would try to make a similar arrangement in BOS once UA switches its operations to terminal A. jetBlue and 9K will be the only carriers left in terminal C and considering EI's partnership with B6 and the arrangement in JFK seems like it would make sense. Although I'm not sure if C is set up to handle A330's.



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User currently offlinestyles9002 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 526 posts, RR: 1
Reply 53, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 14957 times:

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 48):
I still contend that with SFO/LAX as prominent final dests for DUB outbound traffic EI must make a move in this area. 21% of their revenue is from interline/non-EI traffice. If another airline jumps into West Coast-DUB then EI will see this figure drop and loads on their DUB-ORD drop sharply.

I think you will see EI's load factor on most trans-Atlantic flight drop for Summer 2013 with the start of AA JFK-DUB, US PHL-SNN and UA ORD-SNN. I realize the last two are seasonal but they are right in the middle of the prime money-making season for EI and are only going to negatively impact their metrics. EI will either have to give away from yield to fill the planes or deal with less full aircraft and fewer higher economy fares.

With the dearth of SNN lift from the US these last five years a good bit of traffic that would have gone to SNN has just gone to DUB where people rent a car and end up in the same place. Ireland is good like that in that you can nearly visit the whole island regardless of what airport you use. Obviously, there are some extreme examples such as flying into BFS to visit West Cork that don't make sense but on the whole either SNN and DUB can work for tourists.

I reckon that you will see EI's ORD & JFK services flat to down (load & yield) in 2013 due to their added lift on top of the new/resumed services from US/AA/UA. These carriers have a big advantage over EI with their massive frequent flyer database as well as same airline connections from further afield. Flying B6 to EI is usually fine but nowhere near as convenient as US to US, AA to AA, UA to UA or DL to DL.

As for direct SFO/LAX to DUB service, if it ever happens, I would wager that we'd see UA in there before EI. I say this without any inside knowledge but I'd guess EI mostly relies on Irish and some UK originating traffic for the majority of its trans-Atlantic passengers while UA, with it significant existing operations at each airport, lucrative corporate contracts and huge, loyal frequent flyer base might be able to make it work.

I know there was some reports about a few Silicon Valley companies lobbying EI for service in the past but unless you get the big boys to sign onto a corporate contract with premium cabin purchase minimums its not going to happen. I know Ireland has done well for itself in these new industries but it is still a relatively small player and these companies also need to get to Korea/Japan/China/Singapore/Taiwan/Australia/Israel as well and EI can't do that for them while UA can.

If it ever does happen, maybe EI can code-share on the UA service and also market it as an easy way to reach provincial UK markets that are not served non-stop from SFO/LAX and are inefficient via LHR? That might be one way to get a service from the West Coast.



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User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4166 posts, RR: 13
Reply 54, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 14947 times:

Quoting Reply 53):
I say this without any inside knowledge but I'd guess EI mostly relies on Irish and some UK originating traffic for the majority of its trans-Atlantic passengers while UA, with it significant existing operations at each airport, lucrative corporate contracts and huge, loyal frequent flyer base might be able to make it work.

The situation has progressed such that the reliance on Irish and a small amount of UK traffic is now significantly diminished. EI is pulling in traffic from right across the UK and European network, with EDI, BRS, AMS and ARN being the top 4. UK/EU connections account for anything from 35 - 80% of the load ex DUB depending on the flight.

Quoting Reply 53):
I know there was some reports about a few Silicon Valley companies lobbying EI for service in the past but unless you get the big boys to sign onto a corporate contract with premium cabin purchase minimums its not going to happen

Apparently, those silicon valley firms have in fact commited to purchase minimums. The Irish minister of Transport has made a proposal to UA to look at launching the service. UA has also indicated its interest in working more deeply with EI on connections to the UK regions.



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User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2885 posts, RR: 0
Reply 55, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 14945 times:

DL confirms its SNN-JFK schedule for next summer (no changes on this year):
http://www.independent.ie/national-n...t-from-shannon-to-jfk-3291858.html

Quoting irishair98 (Reply 29):
Did EI Buy a gate at ORD because they always seem to be using M5

Gates at the International Terminal are owned and operated by the City of Chicago. International airlines (including Aer Lingus) are regularly "assigned" to certain gates for maximum utilisation and operational reasons. EI uses M5 almost exclusively due to its proximity to the domestic baggage claim carousel (of which there is only one in this terminal) and keeping passengers' exposure to the "departure lounge" at a minimum when passing through it on arrival. Interestingly, this gate can be used to keep passengers isolated from the rest of the terminal. Korean Air used it prior to 9/11 during its transit stop on the Seoul-Chicago-Atlanta route where passengers continuing to ATL were allowed to disembark and re-board without having to go through immigration or security. Obviously this would not be allowed today.

The windows at this particular gate are all whitened out so you cannot get a good view of the A330 when boarding, that's the only thing.



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User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 56, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 14943 times:
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Quoting Reply 53):
I think you will see EI's load factor on most trans-Atlantic flight drop for Summer 2013 with the start of AA JFK-DUB, US PHL-SNN and UA ORD-SNN.

Cetainly from the US market however EI are growing as a carrier pulling in pax from Europe. Some of there T/A flights are 60% transfers. There ORD route for example sees lots of connections from KRK and WAW.

Quoting Reply 53):
but I'd guess EI mostly relies on Irish and some UK originating traffic for the majority of its trans-Atlantic passengers while UA

AT this point EI relies on about 1/3 each....US pax, Irish/UK pax. European pax.

Quoting Reply 53):
As for direct SFO/LAX to DUB service, if it ever happens, I would wager that we'd see UA in there before EI. I

I would be in agreement with you there. Reality wins over optimism


User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6331 posts, RR: 14
Reply 57, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 14908 times:

Strike called off...for now.

SIPTU has called off its threatened strike at Aer Lingus on Monday.

Shop stewards from the union at Aer Lingus met today to decide whether to call off Monday's two-hour stoppage at the airline over pensions.

Yesterday, they secured clarifications of a five-point proposal devised by the employers’ body IBEC and the Irish Congress of Trade Unions.

Aer Lingus has welcomed confirmation that the threat of industrial action has been withdrawn.


http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1114/aer...ngus-siptu.html?noredirection=true

Shamrock350


User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 58, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 14906 times:

Well the damage has already been done and the issue is still not resolved.
It probably would have been better letting it come to a head.
The uncertainty of threats of disruption is nearly as bad as the strike itself.
Even though its not a peak travel period it still causes worry for booked passengers, and loss of revenue from passengers that decide to avoid the airline.

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 57):
Strike called off...for now.

SIPTU has called off its threatened strike at Aer Lingus on Monday.

Shop stewards from the union at Aer Lingus met today to decide whether to call off Monday's two-hour stoppage at the airline over pensions.

Yesterday, they secured clarifications of a five-point proposal devised by the employers’ body IBEC and the Irish Congress of Trade Unions.

Aer Lingus has welcomed confirmation that the threat of industrial action has been withdrawn.


User currently offlineEI564 From Ireland, joined May 2007, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 59, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 14909 times:

Given that there has to be two week's notice before a strike, at least there is some certainty for the next 2 weeks. Far from ideal though.

User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2885 posts, RR: 0
Reply 60, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 14912 times:

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 58):

Well the damage has already been done and the issue is still not resolved.
It probably would have been better letting it come to a head.

Sure I'd say you'd be nearly better off just ignoring all these strike threats. When was the last time EI workers actually went through with a strike?



Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26902 posts, RR: 58
Reply 61, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 14915 times:

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 58):

Indeed the damage to the brand is done. I feel happy for the passengers booked on Monday that they will not be effected but its by no means over or anything to rejoice about.


User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 62, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 14908 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 60):
Sure I'd say you'd be nearly better off just ignoring all these strike threats. When was the last time EI workers actually went through with a strike?

You might be, but that is not the case of the general public who don't follow Aviation issues as closely as you do.


User currently offlineNibog From Ireland, joined Apr 2009, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 63, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 14920 times:

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 62):

You might be, but that is not the case of the general public who don't follow Aviation issues as closely as you do.

Couldn't agree more with you,i know of a party of 6 travelling to the States on Monday to a family gathering for thanksgiving and they were from from happy with the thought of their plans being upset.


User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 64, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 14884 times:
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Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 55):
DL confirms its SNN-JFK schedule for next summer (no changes on this year):

Not that we expected to hear any different but it is always good to hear the confirmation. Will make morning spotting at SNN next summer a bit more interesting than it has been for the past few years. We will have the EI A330 along with 2 x UA B757s, a US B757 and a DL B757. Dare we dream to see an actual increase in passenger numbers at SNN next year after so many years of appalling results?



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User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1468 posts, RR: 3
Reply 65, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 14892 times:

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 62):
When was the last time EI workers actually went through with a strike?

Not that long ago - I recall flying on a Monarch hire in to Lisbon three or four year back due to industrial action at EI.


User currently offlineEIDAA From Ireland, joined Oct 2006, 828 posts, RR: 16
Reply 66, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 14877 times:
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Quoting dstc47 (Reply 65):
Not that long ago - I recall flying on a Monarch hire in to Lisbon three or four year back due to industrial action at EI.

I think it was early February 2011, as I know I ended up on a Monarch A321 on a flight to Paris back then.

With regard to connections, Paris is a little surprising I suppose, but I have often taken connecting flights to get to cities that have direct flights, usually when arrival time is an issue.

For example, a few days ago I was on the 0530 LH flight to FRA and onwards to ZRH as the direct flight with LX gets in too late in the day. If the early morning EI and WX flights to Paris are heavily booked and expensive, I can well appreciate that people would be happy to travel to CDG via another connecting point if schedule and price were right.



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User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 67, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 14883 times:
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Quoting EIDAA (Reply 67):
I think it was early February 2011, as I know I ended up on a Monarch A321 on a flight to Paris back then.

In Feb 2011 the cabin crew were working to their contracts and being suspended by EI for taking such a stance. At the end EI had suspended 1/3 of their crew hence the need to hire-in. It ended with intervention and arbitration by the Labour Court. So not an actual strike, EI instigated the disruption as the cabin crew action had been planned to have little impact on pax in the 10 weeks up to Feb 2011, it did however cause EI headaches internally.


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2885 posts, RR: 0
Reply 68, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 14866 times:

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 64):
We will have the EI A330 along with 2 x UA B757s, a US B757 and a DL B757.

Don't forget the TS A330 on Tuesdays too!



Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlinenightfox365 From Ireland, joined Jul 2011, 48 posts, RR: 0
Reply 69, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 14860 times:

Has TS brought back the A330 on the Dublin route? The last few times I have been to Dublin, they have operated their A310 into Dub.


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User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2885 posts, RR: 0
Reply 70, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 14847 times:

Quoting nightfox365 (Reply 70):
Has TS brought back the A330 on the Dublin route? The last few times I have been to Dublin, they have operated their A310 into Dub.

I think TS operate the A310 on all flights except the TS230/TS231 YYZ-DUB-SNN-YYZ on Tuesdays which is operated by the A330.



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User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6331 posts, RR: 14
Reply 71, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 14865 times:

I think Aer Lingus have finally moved into social media, avoiding Twitter for now but an Instagram account appeared earlier in the week and I've just seen an official looking Tumblr account.

The Instagram doesn't have an online web profile yet but the Tumblr is here.

http://aerlingusgroup.tumblr.com/

I guess they're not ready to handle any complaints via twitter or facebook so haven't gone live on those sites yet but do link to them.

Shamrock350


User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 72, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 14841 times:
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Quoting nightfox365 (Reply 69):
Don't forget the TS A330 on Tuesdays too!

Of course. I always forget that TS still operate a summer service to SNN. They must do resonably well there if they have kept it up this long after open skies. I recally that AA followed very quickly by AC were the first two to pull transatlantic services from SNN after open skies. They both announced their withdrawal within weeks of open skies.



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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12427 posts, RR: 37
Reply 73, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 14832 times:

One of the Irish registered A300s operated by EAT Leipzig on behalf of DHL had a nosegear collapse at BTS this morning; as these acft are now being phased out (and this one now 29yrs old), probably unlikely to fly again?

http://avherald.com/h?article=4591cb7d&opt=0


User currently offlineJambost From Ireland, joined Jun 2010, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 74, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 14849 times:

Not breaking news but nice to see considering Iceland Express [recently "acquired" by WOW] withdrew their commitment to Ireland.

travel-solutions.co.uk are now offering a one off package holiday to Iceland direct from BFS.

Provisional flight times (subject to change) 25th April 2013

Outward:Belfast Int/Keflevik Dep: 10.25am Arr: 11.55am
Return: Keflevik/Belfast Int Dep: 7.25pm Arr: 11.05pm

Shame the flights did not suit my needs, I would make the most of the opportunity and take a week to explore rather than their 4 day trip providing 2 full days.

Hope the package sells to reveal possible potential for a direct service, preferably FI but WOW or EI would be equally as welcome.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26902 posts, RR: 58
Reply 75, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 14835 times:

Quoting Jambost (Reply 74):
Shame the flights did not suit my needs, I would make the most of the opportunity and take a week to explore rather than their 4 day trip providing 2 full days.

Been wanting to do one of those for years but never seem to get around to it . Im sure it will be popular. Wallace Travel have been doing them from DUB for years.


User currently offlineJambost From Ireland, joined Jun 2010, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 76, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 14817 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 75):

Thanks for pointing that out, any idea who operates the charter? Hoping it would be slightly more interesting than LS!



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26902 posts, RR: 58
Reply 77, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 14909 times:

Quoting Jambost (Reply 76):
Thanks for pointing that out, any idea who operates the charter? Hoping it would be slightly more interesting than LS!

I cant remember but here is their program :

http://www.wtg.ie/holiday-travel/iceland.html

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Article today on SNN and its future :

Without the right plan Shannon Airport’s future may be grounded

BROADCASTER Terry Wogan can be heard on a radio advertisement these days extolling the virtues of using Shannon Airport as a departure and arrivals point for travellers out of and into the West of Ireland.
It is a gesture of loyalty presumably towards his old area by the Limerick-born British resident, as much as it conveys any financial rewards upon him. You have to wonder how effective it will be, however. Shannon Airport is having big problems that will not be solved by an advertisement voiced by Limerick’s most prominent member of its foreign-based diaspora.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion...future-may-be-grounded-214120.html


User currently offlineeicvd From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2152 posts, RR: 4
Reply 78, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 14931 times:

Im off to JFK in the morning with EI. Looking forward to my first flight on a widebody & trying EI long-haul  

User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4634 posts, RR: 23
Reply 79, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 14914 times:

Quoting eicvd (Reply 78):
Im off to JFK in the morning with EI. Looking forward to my first flight on a widebody & trying EI long-haul

You will have a ball! Make sure you take a camera and take lots of photos and perhaps do a Trip Report on here! Can't wait to hear all about it!



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineaerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2826 posts, RR: 15
Reply 80, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 14921 times:

Quoting eicvd (Reply 78):

Ya lucky sucker! Have fun & take loads of pics. And yes I expect a Trip Report!  



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26902 posts, RR: 58
Reply 81, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 14914 times:

Quoting eicvd (Reply 78):
Im off to JFK in the morning with EI. Looking forward to my first flight on a widebody & trying EI long-haul  

Bon Voyage . Enjoy the lounge  


User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 82, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 hours ago) and read 14939 times:
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Speaking of EI longhaul......

...was just looking at the schedule for S13. (I picked July timetables) It looks as if DUB-BOS is going 13 times a week rather than the 12 times I had heard. EI-137 departs 1130 each day but Tuesday, while EI-139 at 1615 will be daily.
Similarly DUB-ORD will be 11 weekly; EI-123 at 1125 is daily while the EI-125 departs at 1545 on Mon, Wed, Fri and Sunday.

Would I be right in thinking that the daily 1615 Boston flight would indicate a growth in Euro-DUB-BOS connection opportunities for EI?

So out of DUB EI will have 41 departures per week with 6 A330. (JFK 14, BOS 13, ORD 11, MCO 3) That's not a lot of slack in the system, 1 fleet unit idle on a Tuesday.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26902 posts, RR: 58
Reply 83, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 14939 times:

Bad news for EI ?

Aer Lingus second in race for Heathrow slots

The Irish Times - Saturday, November 17, 2012
CIARÁN HANCOCK

Aer Lingus looks set to lose out in the race to acquire daily slots from London Heathrow to Edinburgh that are being offered as a condition of the takeover of UK carrier BMI by International Airlines Group (IAG), which is led by Irishman Willie Walsh.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...nance/2012/1117/1224326702316.html


User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 84, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 14930 times:
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Quoting OA260 (Reply 77):
Article today on SNN and its future :

Not a great article if we're being honest! Alot of the old conspiracy theory stuff about DUB supressing ORK and SNN and a complete failure to mention the recent major success in terms of attracting two new US routes for next summer and the recent interest shown by Transaero in using SNN as a maintenance facility and possible as a refuelling stopover. As for the comments re private jets stopovers, that business is already booming at SNN and I would greatly suspect that DUB have little or no interest in attracting this sort of traffic and are more than happy to send it via the uncongested, loss making airport under its control rather than having it clogging up an already clogged up airfield.

As someone who has never been shy to level crisitim at the SAA, I think it is only fair to praise their efforts over the last few months. They are finally making a decent marketing effort and have landed the return of SNN-ORD and SNN-PHL for next summer. I know there is still a long road ahead in terms of SNN making a comeback but so far next year looks like it may well be the best year since the start of the recession.



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User currently offlineVFRontop From Ireland, joined Oct 2012, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 85, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 14909 times:

SNN has long struggled to define it's identity and purpose post the stopover years. I have to commend SAA on their recent successes, I do believe there is a strong future for SNN, I hope people can let that old DAA conspiracy stuff go to help realise that future.

User currently offlineEI564 From Ireland, joined May 2007, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 86, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 14907 times:

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 84):
Not a great article if we're being honest

Indeed. Very poor. As if airport charges are the be all and end all. And not the fact that the economy is just about dragging itself out of the mire. Surely the DAA would have been delighted if SNN was making money before? Saves it having to pay off its debts. But no...big conspiracy. Hah.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26902 posts, RR: 58
Reply 87, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 14917 times:

DAA to raise peak season fees :

Ryanair threatens higher fares as Dublin Airport raises charges

Holidaymakers using Dublin Airport could be hit for higher fares next summer after management unveiled a planned hike in charges for airlines.

Ryanair lashed out at plans by the Dublin Airport Authority (DAA) to raise its core airport charges by 0.5pc from next summer – just as the Government's tourism plan 'The Gathering' gets into full swing.

A DAA spokesman said the increase applies to services the authority provides to airlines such as aircraft parking facilities and to passenger charges.

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...irport-raises-charges-3295408.html


User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 88, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 14895 times:
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Quoting OA260 (Reply 87):
Ryanair threatens higher fares as Dublin Airport raises charges

You don't say! Why must Ryanair get angry every time someone other than themselves are tries to make money? When will FR realise that DUB is the primary airport of Ireland and thus should expect to pay more for using it rather than some small secondary airport located miles from the city it is supposed to be serving that they can bully into lowering charges.



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User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4166 posts, RR: 13
Reply 89, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 14891 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 87):

A 0.5% increase, and only in high season, is surely not something to be going nuts over.

I hope the DAA throw their toys out of the pram when FR start charging for hand luggage and destroy airport shopping sales in the process.



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User currently offlineIre2008 From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 90, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 14869 times:

I see virgin have the EDI and ABZ links to LHR

Kevin


User currently offlinedamian From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 245 posts, RR: 0
Reply 91, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 14885 times:

Quoting Ire2008 (Reply 90):
I see virgin have the EDI and ABZ links to LHR

Not officially confirmed as yet, but looking highly likely given that EI has been informed their bid has been ranked second, and no other airlines have publicly stated their interest in these slots.


User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 92, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 14859 times:

Quoting Ire2008 (Reply 90):
I see virgin have the EDI and ABZ links to LHR

Who are Virgin going to use to operate the route for them? Doubt they will operate it themselves. If it's an A319 then EI could be a strong candidate.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4166 posts, RR: 13
Reply 93, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 14866 times:

BBC now reporting that VS have indeed been offered all of the remedy slots for use on EDI and ABZ ex LHR.

The EI bid, while a strong candidate presumably, may have suffered from being considered as "BA by proxy" with the two carriers still extensively co-operating on routes between Ireland and the UK, and only very recent rumblings of a more competitive relationship between them.

Either that, or the European Commision knew very well that eventually those slots would have ended up serving Irish routes.

Now, however, it remains to be seen if VS actually make good on their word and accept the slots - or if they find a reason to worm their way out!



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User currently offlineNibog From Ireland, joined Apr 2009, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 94, posted (1 year 9 months 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 14852 times:

I see that DLH 403 diverted into Dublin on a medical divert,due to the sudden illness of the First Officer;

http://avherald.com/h?article=45946e02&opt=4096

Hope he recovers soon.


User currently offlineDavecFlyer From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 369 posts, RR: 0
Reply 95, posted (1 year 9 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 14834 times:

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 92):
Who are Virgin going to use to operate the route for them? Doubt they will operate it themselves. If it's an A319 then EI could be a strong candidate.

It will be leased A320 aircraft from an European ACMI operator - that's all I can say unfortunately!



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User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 96, posted (1 year 9 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 14832 times:
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Quoting DavecFlyer (Reply 95):
It will be leased A320 aircraft from an European ACMI operator - that's all I can say unfortunately!

I read elsewhere that it will be an LY- registered company.

Regardless of who actually operates the routes we should expect SRB to provide a suitably dramatic launch party for the EIS of the first VS A319/319. With the MAN, ABZ and EDI routes I guess 2-3 aircraft in total required? I wonder will they call it Virgin UK or stick with Atlantic as per the image posted on their facebook page... they even have a sutiable reg chosen...G-VMAN: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...07520000.1353362986&type=3&theater

If VS do as well from this as EI have from EIR then it will be expanded upon. I still think fair play to EI to tender for the slots, while a bit odd it showed an ability to look to spread their risks around a little. Definitely more sound logic than the MoL BRU base proposal....


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26902 posts, RR: 58
Reply 97, posted (1 year 9 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 14832 times:

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 96):

The exact details are not hard to find on other forums also.


User currently offlineVFRontop From Ireland, joined Oct 2012, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 98, posted (1 year 9 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 14842 times:

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...throw-slots-to-virgin-3300412.html

"Aer Lingus chief executive Christoph Mueller recently said that the airline would have difficulty growing organically and would consider small asset purchases in order to help it expand."

Interesting I wonder who out there EI would consider purchasing. Considering SK have secured an 11th hour reprieve, could Mueller be looking to other ailing airlines to take some assets/routes off their troubled hands?

I thought EI missed a trick with the Malev collapse but it's hard to outpace FR who have plenty of frames available at very short notice.


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12427 posts, RR: 37
Reply 99, posted (1 year 9 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 14822 times:

I think it's very difficult for EI to do this, because its previous efforts to open in new markets have not been a success and I'd be very nervous about seeing EI do this again.

User currently offlineVFRontop From Ireland, joined Oct 2012, 38 posts, RR: 0
Reply 100, posted (1 year 9 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 14814 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 99):

I'd never advocate taking their entire network (SK is in trouble for a reason) but surely there is merit in EI taking up the slack on the Irish route and cherry-picking others that have well established demand. So if (hopefully it won't happen) SK go belly up, even in the most convervative move, EI could:

Begin service to OSL
Add capacity to ARN and CPH

Why give away perfectly good routes to FR?

If EI were feeling more adventurous there are over 1.2mil pax/yr who travel between each of the three airports (OSL, CPH, ARN). That and the fact that SK and BA are the only ones who service LHR from these airports provide plenty of relatively "safe" growth opportunities, don't you think?


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12427 posts, RR: 37
Reply 101, posted (1 year 9 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 14795 times:

The big risk with establishing a new network from an unfamiliar airport is that when you do your calculations, you can only do it on the status quo, i.e. the market as it is; you can't predict the behaviour of other carriers, with lower cost bases or bigger networks. In the case of Scandinavia, you have to admit that EI is very little known and it's record of flying to CPH (in, out, in, out) hardly engenders confidence. Compared to the likes of Wizz, Norwegian (which already has a base at CPH) and virtually any other EU carrier, it's small fry.

So, let's just take that down the road; it invests in all it needs to invest in (which won't be cheap) and then, it starts new routes, bears a loss at the outset, throws in more capacity and then, after a bitter fight against an established lo-co, it's forced to exit. Cost - huge; result - big fat zero.

So, what's the solution? How about buying into another "niche" carrier, i.e. a successful but small carrier which doesn't have the wherewithal to expand; in other words, a collaborative effort. I'm thinking of someone like Croatia, Airmalta, Czech ... but even that has its downsides.


User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 102, posted (1 year 9 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 14878 times:
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Quoting kaitak (Reply 101):
In the case of Scandinavia, you have to admit that EI is very little known and it's record of flying to CPH (....in, out, in, out.....) hardly engenders confidence.

But if they entered that market they may be able to 'shake it all about'


User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6331 posts, RR: 14
Reply 103, posted (1 year 9 months 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 14881 times:

Aer Lingus to start Belfast City to Palma from next April.

Quote:
From 2nd April 2013 Aer Lingus will operate twice a week flights from George Best Belfast City Airport to Palma, Majorca, every Tuesday and Saturday. Flights will go on sale on Thursday 22nd November 2012 with fares from £45.99 one-way. Aer Lingus will also re-launch daily flights to Malaga and Faro from 31st March.
http://www.ittn.ie/bulletins/aer-lin...troduce-new-belfast-palma-service/

Nice to see another new route for BHD.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4166 posts, RR: 13
Reply 104, posted (1 year 9 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 14884 times:

Quoting VFRontop (Reply 100):
I'd never advocate taking their entire network (SK is in trouble for a reason) but surely there is merit in EI taking up the slack on the Irish route and cherry-picking others that have well established demand. So if (hopefully it won't happen) SK go belly up, even in the most convervative move, EI could:

Begin service to OSL
Add capacity to ARN and CPH

Why give away perfectly good routes to FR?

You have probably just touched on exactly why EI seem to have recently discovered Scandinavia - sensing trouble at SAS, EI have now built a reasonable presence in the market, easily expandable if the need arises.

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 103):
Aer Lingus to start Belfast City to Palma from next April.

Quote:
From 2nd April 2013 Aer Lingus will operate twice a week flights from George Best Belfast City Airport to Palma, Majorca, every Tuesday and Saturday. Flights will go on sale on Thursday 22nd November 2012 with fares from £45.99 one-way. Aer Lingus will also re-launch daily flights to Malaga and Faro from 31st March.
http://www.ittn.ie/bulletins/aer-lin...troduce-new-belfast-palma-service/

Nice to see another new route for BHD.

I Would love to see EI launch CDG and AMS from BHD. That would be a real challenge to EZY given they have the relative advantage of operating at the city airport.



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User currently offlineJambost From Ireland, joined Jun 2010, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 105, posted (1 year 9 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 14869 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 103):
Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 104):

Very exciting times, slowly but surely restoring the short lived venture of WW.
Would love to see AMS & CDG myself however I do wonder if they will attempt again despite their failure in BFS? Would indirect competition and a debatable convenient airport be enough to secure the demand they need to succeed? I would bet that BCN will be the first major European city destination.
LGW is increasing from 3 to 4 times daily, incredible demand or is a carrier [cough cough Flybe] losing out?

BFS ready for G8 summit ,

http://www.belfastairport.com/en/new...8ready-for-g8%E2%80%99-summit.html

BFS will become spotting heaven, hope Putin takes the Il-96   . Speaking of Putin any word on SU announcing DUB?



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User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4166 posts, RR: 13
Reply 106, posted (1 year 9 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 14865 times:

Quoting Jambost (Reply 105):
Speaking of Putin any word on SU announcing DUB?

The bilateral agreement between Ireland and Russia is being renegotiated at the moment. The govt want FR added as a designated carrier. I would expect an announcement perhaps when that is concluded?

Quoting Jambost (Reply 105):
Would love to see AMS & CDG myself however I do wonder if they will attempt again despite their failure in BFS? Would indirect competition and a debatable convenient airport be enough to secure the demand they need to succeed?

WW did try BHD-AMS. Would be interesting to see some load factor info for that. Must have a look through the CAA stats.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26902 posts, RR: 58
Reply 107, posted (1 year 9 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14836 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 103):

Nice to see PMI a firm favourite amongst Ulster folk.

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 104):

AMS tried and tested and failed from BFS , cant see BHD being any different to be honest.


User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6331 posts, RR: 14
Reply 108, posted (1 year 9 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 14824 times:

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 104):
I Would love to see EI launch CDG and AMS from BHD. That would be a real challenge to EZY given they have the relative advantage of operating at the city airport.

Don't see CDG happening again and AMS would only work with a KL code share and that doesn't look likely. I'll give EI credit where it's due and they did try a number of different routes from BFS including MUC and MXP but they didn't work, even with rock bottom fares. The market seems limited to predictable sun and UK routes.

The schedule is pretty full now at BHD, I think any new growth will need more based aircraft?


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2885 posts, RR: 0
Reply 109, posted (1 year 9 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 14821 times:

Reports that Transaero has applied for Russian government permission to operate a 3x weekly Moscow-Shannon-Miami service. Not clear if it will stop in SNN on the way back as from what I gather, the main reason will be to use the preclearance.

As Shamrock604 mentions above, the ongoing renegotiation of the Ireland/Russia bilateral agreement may well be a factor at play here.

http://exmiami.org/threads/transaero...i-flights-via-shannon-ireland.315/

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In other news, a timeline for SNN seperation from the DAA is to be announced within the next fortnight:
http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/bu...ion-plans-to-be-unveiled-1-4499823

An interesting comment here from Minister Noonan: "It is only since the separation was announced that we have realised how the attachment to Dublin was holding us back. There are airline companies, if they thought we were free of Dublin, (that) would come in and establish flights.”

[Edited 2012-11-20 17:25:47]


Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4166 posts, RR: 13
Reply 110, posted (1 year 9 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 14789 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 109):
In other news, a timeline for SNN seperation from the DAA is to be announced within the next fortnight:
http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/bu...ion-plans-to-be-unveiled-1-4499823

An interesting comment here from Minister Noonan: "It is only since the separation was announced that we have realised how the attachment to Dublin was holding us back. There are airline companies, if they thought we were free of Dublin, (that) would come in and establish flights.”

A lovely bit of playing to the electorate. Look at the comments underneath: "West is best", "everyone wants to fly here", etc etc.

Dear god, give me strength. Any airline who so passionately wanted to avoid the DAA has had either KIR or NOC to deal with had they wanted to. Hardly a queue out the door at either....



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User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 111, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 14741 times:
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Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 109):
An interesting comment here from Minister Noonan: "It is only since the separation was announced that we have realised how the attachment to Dublin was holding us back. There are airline companies, if they thought we were free of Dublin, (that) would come in and establish flights.”

It must be remembered that Noonan is a politician who serves the part of the Mid West and it will of course to down nicely with the conspiracy theorists to throw a dig like that. Also there is the remarkable timing wit the new transatlantic routes for next summer to back up his comments. Well, if it is any comfort to DUB folk out there, they won't be able to use that excuse for much longer down at SNN. Ye's might have to listen to thre ORK crowd for a while longer though.



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User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 112, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 14672 times:
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Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 106):
The bilateral agreement between Ireland and Russia is being renegotiated at the moment. The govt want FR added as a designated carrier.

Surely any bi-lateral agreement would cover all Irish airlines? Or would they be limited to 1-2. Seems obvios to me that EI and FR would be included in any such deal, perhaps Air Contractors too. Not too much chance of RE or WX operatign to Russia anytime soon.


User currently offlineEI564 From Ireland, joined May 2007, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 113, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 14627 times:

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 111):
Also there is the remarkable timing wit the new transatlantic routes for next summer to back up his comments.

Do they back up his comments? Next year both Shannon and Dublin will have a big increase in transatlantic capacity. If Shannon was only growing then there may be something to those comments. Or if Dublin was only growing then maybe the paranoid may not be so paranoid. But instead, both airports are growing the same market. Maybe helped by this Gathering initiative?

Not like Shannon is independent yet anyhow. So airlines weren't that put off by the Dublin connection. I'm sure Shannon (under the DAA) has been working on both of these new routes for a number of years. While Dublin has been working on its new flights.


User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 114, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 14592 times:
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Quoting EI564 (Reply 113):
Not like Shannon is independent yet anyhow. So airlines weren't that put off by the Dublin connection. I'm sure Shannon (under the DAA) has been working on both of these new routes for a number of years. While Dublin has been working on its new flights.

I was of course being sarcastic with my comments. That is the downside of the Internet is that the meaning of something you would say face is lost when it is typed on a discussion board. Now if there is a flood of new routes and airlineas after SNN is independent then we might look further into this but I wouldn't hold my breath. SNN has a long road ahead but the last few months have given some hope that it has a future.



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User currently offlinejumpjets From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 802 posts, RR: 0
Reply 115, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 14523 times:

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 112):
Surely any bi-lateral agreement would cover all Irish airlines?

If the Irish bi-lateral is anything like the one with the UK the number of designated airlines and the number flights per week that each carrier is allowed are specified in the agreement. UK Airlines then 'compete' for the right to be a designated carrier. As you may have read elsewhere Easyjet has been nominated as one of the two UK designated airlines - which might bode well for FR seeing approval to fly to Russia.


User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 116, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 14464 times:

Quoting EI564 (Reply 113):
Do they back up his comments? Next year both Shannon and Dublin will have a big increase in transatlantic capacity. If Shannon was only growing then there may be something to those comments. Or if Dublin was only growing then maybe the paranoid may not be so paranoid. But instead, both airports are growing the same market. Maybe helped by this Gathering initiative?

Not like Shannon is independent yet anyhow. So airlines weren't that put off by the Dublin connection. I'm sure Shannon (under the DAA) has been working on both of these new routes for a number of years. While Dublin has been working on its new flights.

I suspect this increase in traffic next year is partly due to expected increase in visitors due to the gathering and the strong performance of North Atlantic traffic in general.

When the airport separates from the DAA i suspect that Ryanair will strongly consider returning there just to prove a point. I hope the Airport will not be sucked into Ryanair's offers of quick wins, but rather look for sustainable growth for UK and European services from operators who don't have a political agenda..


User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6331 posts, RR: 14
Reply 117, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 14387 times:

Speaking of Scandinavia...

SAS and Aer Lingus Sign Interline Agreement

Quote:
Scandinavian Airlines and Aer Lingus have signed an interline agreement to enable more convenient connections between Ireland and Scandinavia. %u2028%u2028The agreement is effective from 1stNovember and will allow travellers to use the services of Aer Lingus between UK and Ireland when connecting onwards with SAS, to Scandinavia and beyond.

Another Star carrier.

http://www.ittn.ie/bulletins/sas-and...ne-agreement/#.UKzxUB63kdg.twitter

Not a huge development but we'll see where this goes, it comes after the Air Canada interline which both airlines say is the first move before a codeshare early next year.


User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 118, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 14358 times:
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Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 117):

SAS and Aer Lingus Sign Interline Agreement

Can't wait to see the free PR the Ryanair will milk from this deal. They will take the opportuntiy to praise the trade union movement no doubt.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26902 posts, RR: 58
Reply 119, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 14196 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 108):

Indeed it was the lack of KL codeshare that was the nail in the coffin last time.


User currently offlineac747 From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 277 posts, RR: 5
Reply 120, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 14176 times:

SU to SVO.

http://www.ittn.ie/bulletins/aeroflot-to-fly-dublin-moscow/



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User currently offlineirishair98 From Ireland, joined Dec 2011, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 121, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 14042 times:
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Quoting ac747 (Reply 120):


That article was from 2011



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User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2885 posts, RR: 0
Reply 122, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 13847 times:

Aer Lingus to commence 3x weekly SNN-FAO for Summer 2013:

http://www.shannonairport.com/gns/ab...to_sun-kissed_Algarve_in_2013.aspx

The schedule looks like this:
SNN-FAO EI904 departs 18:00, arrives 20:40 (A320)
FAO-SNN EI903 departs 14:40, arrives 17:20 (A320)

In addition, EI will recommence SNN-BOS and SNN-JFK on 11th March after only 9 weeks' downtime this winter. The wording of the press release suggests that the weekly SNN-RNS flight will not return next summer however.

Great to see EI committing to the expansion of shorthaul routes from SNN after the CDG failure. And obviously, this is the third big announcement in terms of new routes for SNN for next year. I wonder how this route will impact FR's 2x weekly KIR-FAO service? I'd nearly say there's room for both (?).

[Edited 2012-11-22 04:20:29]


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User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 123, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 13725 times:
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Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 122):
Aer Lingus to commence 3x weekly SNN-FAO for Summer 2013:

It is good news. SNN-FAO always did seem to do well when FR operated the service and I was surprised that it was one of the destinations that they pulled after their hissy fit when the SAA (God forbid) were unresonable enough to somehow think they should be allowed to make some money out of the FR base. As always though, now it is over to the people of the region to use the dame service if they want it to stay there so lets support EI in their efforts rather than ranting for not supporting SNN when the pull the service because no on was using it!



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User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6331 posts, RR: 14
Reply 124, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13587 times:

Aer Lingus will operate a new service to Corfu in Summer 2013, Copenhagen now year round & extra flights to 15 cities from Dublin.

http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-...ngus_Summer_Schedule_For_2013.aspx

Seems that Vilnius is gone and Krakow won't be returning either.

Great to see EI still committed to trying short haul from SNN, hope it does well but either way I think EI has found a good place at Shannon with LHR, the US routes and Regional performing well. It seems the route will be operated by an ORK based aircraft which has unfortunately seen FCO dropped. There are a rumours of a German route on the horizon after the success of Brussels but not sure that can fit into the schedule now.


User currently offlinebx737 From Ireland, joined Sep 2001, 678 posts, RR: 3
Reply 125, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13573 times:

It is worth remembering that there are two A319s arriving next summer, they are supposed to replace a similar number of A320s, but plans have changed before, so I would not rule anything in or out. It is good news to see new routes and new routes from Shannon as well. So far for Summer 2013 we have DUB-CFU, SNN-FAO and BFS-PMI. I wonder will there be any more.

User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12427 posts, RR: 37
Reply 126, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 13533 times:

I am wondering whether EI will add some more A319s; the recent announcement by IB to get rid of about 20 short haul aircraft (which will almost certainly include some A319s) offers an opportunity, because the two current (and two coming) A319s come from an IB order.

I wonder how many EI A320s have their leases ending in the next year or two? Of course, they could also choose to increase the number of fleet units.


User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 127, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 13362 times:
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Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 124):
Aer Lingus will operate a new service to Corfu in Summer 2013, Copenhagen now year round

I hope that the interline agreement with SAS will (finally) make this route viable for EI.

Quoting kaitak (Reply 126):
I wonder how many EI A320s have their leases ending in the next year or two? Of course, they could also choose to increase the number of fleet units.

Apart from 3 all the EI A320 are less than 9 years in service (DEA in Apr '04) so EI are in pretty OK shape fleetwise. I would hazard a guess that any leasing company would be a little more wiling then usual to extend the lease in light of the large numbers of leased aircraft on the market recently. I thought the plan was for the 4 A319 to replace the original 4 A320 (CVA-CVD) which were received in 2000/2001. Currently 2 of those are still in service. Perhaps they could decide to retain these 2 units......

AM I right in thinking that RE will take delivery of their new ATR-72's next year?
Then we still have the issue of an FR fleet renewal decision.


User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6331 posts, RR: 14
Reply 128, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 13340 times:

Quoting myself here but...

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 124):
There are a rumours of a German route on the horizon after the success of Brussels but not sure that can fit into the schedule now.

Brussels might not be the success I thought it was for Cork, down to just Monday and Friday for next summer. Aer Lingus were said to be looking at FRA but if BRU is already down to 2x weekly it's no surprise they went with more flights to the sun routes and started SNN-FAO.

Things might not be set in stone as it's still pretty early for summer schedules but I don't think ORK will be seeing that second German city any time soon.

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 127):
AM I right in thinking that RE will take delivery of their new ATR-72's next year?

Couldn't come soon enough with the amount they go tech!


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 26902 posts, RR: 58
Reply 129, posted (1 year 9 months 17 hours ago) and read 13130 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 124):

Thats great news and a lovely Island. Great to see expansion between Ireland and Greece.


User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 130, posted (1 year 9 months 10 hours ago) and read 12898 times:
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I got my 'The Gathering 2013" free pair of postcards today. I would have thought having them freepost would increase the usage. (I guess postcards are a symbolic gesture,I would normally use the phone to invite ppl home!)
I must applaud their optimism however, the over art shows 2 A380 inbound to the island of Ireland!!


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2885 posts, RR: 0
Reply 131, posted (1 year 9 months 9 hours ago) and read 12818 times:

SNN to host free Christmas music celebration:
http://www.limerickleader.ie/lifesty...ve-christmas-celebration-1-4515540

The airport also allowed members of the public access to The Loop for two days this week without boarding passes. They still needed to undergo the security check, obviously. It wasn't formally announced so I think it was more of a word of mouth thing. A few friends of mine from Shannon Town did it.

---

Two released over Shannon breach (including an ancient picture of the SNN terminal and an EI A330 in the old livery!):
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/breaking/2012/1121/breaking27.html

Video taken as the runway "breach" happened: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwGiiu0lWz4



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User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 132, posted (1 year 9 months 7 hours ago) and read 12706 times:
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Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 131):
Two released over Shannon breach (including an ancient picture of the SNN terminal and an EI A330 in the old livery!):

Not to mention the two IL-62 parked behind it and what appears to be a L1011 parked at the gate. Gotta love the media in Ireland!

[Edited 2012-11-23 13:49:35]


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User currently offlineshamrocka330 From Ireland, joined Sep 2005, 287 posts, RR: 0
Reply 133, posted (1 year 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 12673 times:

Are EI to lease another A330?

http://www.aviationweek.com/awmobile...l/avd_11_21_2012_p01-02-519533.xml



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User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6331 posts, RR: 14
Reply 134, posted (1 year 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 12639 times:

Quoting shamrocka330 (Reply 133):
Are EI to lease another A330?

Saw that on Twitter earlier in the week and thought it was odd. Mentions leasing an A330 from UA who don't actually operate A330s but did buy some from AC to lease back to them, not sure if UA still own but they have a different engine type anyway I believe.

Even if an additional aircraft was added it would only bring the fleet to 9, not 11 as that states.

Also saw on Twitter that EI-DAA will be the first A330 with wi-fi installed next month. Long gone are the days when we discussed how it was the only aircraft with PTVs!


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2885 posts, RR: 0
Reply 135, posted (1 year 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 12626 times:

Quoting shamrocka330 (Reply 133):
Are EI to lease another A330?

I read that article as well - a lot of mistakes in it. I believe they mean the returning A330-200 which was operated on behalf of United on the IAD-MAD route. This will be used to increase DUB-ORD frequency by 4x weekly and DUB-BOS by 3x weekly.


Ryanair launches new onboard menu "The Getaway Café":
http://www.ryanair.com/ie/news/ryanair-launches-new-onboard-menu

[Edited 2012-11-23 15:23:36]


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User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 136, posted (1 year 9 months 1 hour ago) and read 12511 times:
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Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 135):
Ryanair launches new onboard menu "The Getaway Café":

Only Ryanair would use the slogan "‘THE GETAWAY CAFÉ’ IS ALMOST AS TASTY AS OUR CABIN CREW!" to promote their onboard menu. I also love the "There's no extra charge to turn the page" and the "Free Boxes" and "Free Cups" that your food and drink comes in. Not to mention the "Free Napkin". At least someone has a sense of humour about the way FR charge extra for pretty much everything.

[Edited 2012-11-23 19:45:11]

[Edited 2012-11-23 19:48:37]


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User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 137, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 12307 times:
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Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 136):
I also love the "There's no extra charge to turn the page" and the "Free Boxes" and "Free Cups" that your food and drink comes in. Not to mention the "Free Napkin". At least someone has a sense of humour about the way FR charge extra for pretty much everything.

Thats almost as if an online poster created the page. Does anyone else charge for cups,napkins?

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 135):
I read that article as well..... I believe they mean the returning A330-200 which was operated on behalf of United on the IAD-MAD route.

I would agree. The article is from a US centric site and assumes that UA are leasing the aircraft to EI as it was "IAD based". I would read it as 'adding another aircraft which will bolster the US network'
Even the EI 3rd Q results mentioned 'adding another A330 to our network from DUB"..no mention that it was the returning A332.

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 134):
Also saw on Twitter that EI-DAA will be the first A330 with wi-fi installed next month.

So I wonder will this be the aircraft that ppl are looking out for now. I suspect the system won't be live until they have 2-3 aircraft equipped.

[Edited 2012-11-24 03:10:25]

User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2885 posts, RR: 0
Reply 138, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 12179 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 134):

Great to see. I wonder will EI deploy Wi-Fi-enabled aircraft on specific routes until all aircraft are fitted? 'DAA was also the first in the fleet to feature PTVs.



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User currently offlineLGWGate49 From Sudan, joined Nov 2009, 138 posts, RR: 0
Reply 139, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12002 times:

Hi guys, seems SmartWings will be flying DUB-PRG 2 x weekly in the summer:

http://airlineroute.net/2012/11/23/qs-dub-s13/



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User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2885 posts, RR: 0
Reply 140, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 11888 times:

The Austrian airline Niki has culled the seasonal scheduled routes between Shannon and Vienna, Linz and Graz for 2013. The two flights (one direct to VIE and the other to GRZ via LNZ) operated on Saturdays with E-190s during the peak summer seasons of 2012 and 2011. Not much of a loss in the grand scheme of things but will still be missed.


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User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 141, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 11682 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 140):
The Austrian airline Niki has culled the seasonal scheduled routes between Shannon and Vienna, Linz and Graz for 2013. The two flights (one direct to VIE and the other to GRZ via LNZ) operated on Saturdays with E-190s during the peak summer seasons of 2012 and 2011. Not much of a loss in the grand scheme of things but will still be missed.

I'd say they are a big loss, these type of flights are much more important than the likes of SNN-FAO which bring in zero visitors to the region.


User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 142, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11671 times:
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Quoting clydenairways (Reply 141):
I'd say they are a big loss, these type of flights are much more important than the likes of SNN-FAO which bring in zero visitors to the region.

Any loss is a blow to SNN particurarly to Europe which has traditionally been SNN's biggest weakness. With every airline that tries and fails makes it more and more difficult for the SAA to convince new airlines to serve mainland Europe.



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User currently offlinebestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7113 posts, RR: 57
Reply 143, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 11658 times:

I thought the Niki services were charter with remaining additional seats sold by Niki. Is the travel agent using a different airline perhaps?

Are the Swiss services operating this year - what about the midweek french invasion using Air Med A321s?



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User currently offlineNibog From Ireland, joined Apr 2009, 329 posts, RR: 0
Reply 144, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 11519 times:

Morning all,on a cold foggy November morning!!!!.

Just a "heads up",next months issue of "Airliner World" will have a feature on "Dublin airport,new terminals and traffic growth in Ireland".

Does anyone know if a Turkish 777 diverted into Dublin on Saturday evening?,also was there a Lufthansa 340 on Thursday as well???

Thanks. Nibog


User currently offlinecipango From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 600 posts, RR: 0
Reply 145, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11388 times:

Quoting Nibog (Reply 144):
Does anyone know if a Turkish 777 diverted into Dublin on Saturday evening?

Yes, medical diversion. It was also the FC Barcelona Aircraft.


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2885 posts, RR: 0
Reply 146, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 11178 times:

Quoting bestwestern (Reply 143):

I thought the Niki services were charter with remaining additional seats sold by Niki. Is the travel agent using a different airline perhaps?

Oh maybe...SNN marketed it as scheduled so I'm just going by the FlyNiki/Air Berlin websites.



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User currently offlineirishair98 From Ireland, joined Dec 2011, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 147, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 11195 times:
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Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 137):
no mention that it was the returning A332.

so your saying that the A332 EI are leasing off UA was just a A332 that EI were already leasing of UA and are just extending the lease ?



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User currently offlineaerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2826 posts, RR: 15
Reply 148, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 11172 times:

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 136):
I also love the "There's no extra charge to turn the page" and the "Free Boxes" and "Free Cups" that your food and drink comes in. Not to mention the "Free Napkin". At least someone has a sense of humour about the way FR charge extra for pretty much everything.

I think this is good too  

On another note, does EI accept Laser onboard for BOB? Or just Visa & Mastercard?

Thanks.



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User currently offlineEIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 419 posts, RR: 0
Reply 149, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 10981 times:

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 148):
On another note, does EI accept Laser onboard for BOB? Or just Visa & Mastercard?

Just credit cards (no idea if its just Visa/Mastercard - they may accept the two/three obscure choices too), not Laser. The announcements generally make a specific point of this.


User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1808 posts, RR: 2
Reply 150, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 10887 times:
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Quoting irishair98 (Reply 147):
so your saying that the A332 EI are leasing off UA was just a A332 that EI were already leasing of UA and are just extending the lease ?

No. EI were effectively leasing 1 of their A332's to US to operate the IAD-MAD route. (EI aircraft, EI crew, UA ticket sales and marketing) This deal has ended so the aircraft is coming home. This is the 'additional A330' being used to bolster the EI USA network next summer.


To the best o my knowledge EI do not accept Laser onboard. Laser requires a connection to verify, EI do not have datalinks on their aircraft for this purpose. Most credit cards can be used offline so no issue using them onboard.


User currently offlineaerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2826 posts, RR: 15
Reply 151, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 10876 times:

Quoting EIDL (Reply 149):
Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 150):

Ok, thanks guys. No Irish breakfast for me onboard so   



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User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 152, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 10833 times:

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 151):
Ok, thanks guys. No Irish breakfast for me onboard so

Buy one in the terminal before you go. It's much better anyway.


User currently offlineEireRock From Ireland, joined Nov 2007, 301 posts, RR: 4
Reply 153, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 10735 times:

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 151):
Ok, thanks guys. No Irish breakfast for me onboard so  

Or perhaps even use that ancient purchasing tool known widely as CASH.......


User currently offlineaerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2826 posts, RR: 15
Reply 154, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 10713 times:

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 152):
Buy one in the terminal before you go. It's much better anyway.

No Irish brekkies in BCN but thanks  
Quoting EireRock (Reply 153):
Or perhaps even use that ancient purchasing tool known widely as CASH.......

Yeah....the problem is all the money I´ll have in the world (€5) will be on said Laser card....  

Sorry, I should´ve explained that!

[Edited 2012-11-26 04:21:29]


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User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 155, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 10642 times:

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 154):
No Irish brekkies in BCN but thanks

Ok, how about a nice post landing breakfast to look forward to  


User currently offlineaerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2826 posts, RR: 15
Reply 156, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 10576 times:

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 155):

Yeah, I´ll get Mammy on it!  



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User currently offlineEIBoston From Ireland, joined Sep 2006, 448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 157, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 10545 times:

Just a quick question about EI's A321's. Are they scheduled on certain routes or are they just used to whenever a little extra capacity is needed over the A320's? thx.

User currently offlineaerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2826 posts, RR: 15
Reply 158, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 10482 times:

Quoting EIBoston (Reply 157):
Just a quick question about EI's A321's. Are they scheduled on certain routes or are they just used to whenever a little extra capacity is needed over the A320's? thx.

I think possibly they could be used mostly on the LHR route, but I´m no expert.



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User currently offlineaerlingusa330 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 357 posts, RR: 0
Reply 159, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 10364 times:

Quoting irishair98 (Reply 147):
so your saying that the A332 EI are leasing off UA was just a A332 that EI were already leasing of UA and are just extending the lease ?

No, EI already owns this aircraft and operated it on behalf of a joint-venture with UA from IAD to MAD. This aircraft was always in EI's possession and EI operated it with UA marketing on a flight to MAD. UA never leased this aircraft at any time.

IMHO, it's great to see this aircraft finally going home, but I have to admit that I'll miss seeing her in the Washington skies  .



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User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2885 posts, RR: 0
Reply 160, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 10236 times:

I've been informed that ORK is working on a smartphone app - to be launched in Q1 2013. Hopefully SNN won't be far behind!


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User currently offlineeirbus06 From Ireland, joined Apr 2006, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 161, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 10167 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 160):
I've been informed that ORK is working on a smartphone app - to be launched in Q1 2013. Hopefully SNN won't be far behind!

Won't be many routes to show on it if they don't get there bloody finger out. ORK should take a leaf out of SNN's book and concentrate on routes. Apps sould be at the bottom of there priority list!  


User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1944 posts, RR: 9
Reply 162, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 9976 times:
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Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 160):
I've been informed that ORK is working on a smartphone app - to be launched in Q1 2013. Hopefully SNN won't be far behind!

I'm sure with the upcoming independence and that drastically improved marketing efforts that we will see a SNN app pretty soon.

Quoting eirbus06 (Reply 161):
Won't be many routes to show on it if they don't get there bloody finger out. ORK should take a leaf out of SNN's book and concentrate on routes. Apps sould be at the bottom of there priority list!

Seems a bit harsh on ORK if you ask me. ORK is not in bad shape by any stretch of the imagination and in no way is it worse off than SNN. IT definitely was not dessimated the same way as SNN was when FR scaled back. Yes, SNN has had alot of positive developments lately but it should be pointed out that most of the routes announcements have been for the resumption of routes that were previously pulled and it remains to be seen if they can be made to work.



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User currently offlineEI564 From Ireland, joined May 2007, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 163, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 9874 times:

Quoting eirbus06 (Reply 161):
Won't be many routes to show on it if they don't get there bloody finger out. ORK should take a leaf out of SNN's book and concentrate on routes.

Not mentioned here much but Cork did get 5 new Ryanair routes this month. They all were competing with Wizz but 5 new routes in a month is a lot better than most airports manage.


User currently offlineJambost From Ireland, joined Jun 2010, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 164, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 9773 times:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-20507000

Great news for Bombardier and Belfast, jobs will not be drying up any time soon!



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