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Likely New Jetblue Cities For 2013?  
User currently offlinedoulasc From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 521 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 7441 times:

Is Jetblue planning on any expansion in 2013 ? Should we see their A321s coming the first quarter of 2013? I read in another thread Jetblue was looking at Cincinnati or was that just rumor?

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User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7483 times:

I would look for more Caribbean and maybe one new domestic city.

Quoting doulasc (Thread starter):
Jetblue was looking at Cincinnati

I believe it was the opposite, Cincinnati was trying to get JetBlue. I don't see it going anywhere. Look at their route map, it doesn't fit.



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16793 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7472 times:

Quoting doulasc (Thread starter):
I read in another thread Jetblue was looking at Cincinnati or was that just rumor?
Quoting airliner371 (Reply 1):
I believe it was the opposite, Cincinnati was trying to get JetBlue. I don't see it going anywhere. Look at their route map, it doesn't fit.

It's very unlikely they are going to CVG, if they couldn't make CMH and BNA work how on Earth is CVG going to work? Where I can see B6 is ATL, again, and PHL. The A321s are going to existing routes, trans-cons and Caribbean.

[Edited 2012-11-12 06:13:12]


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User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7464 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 2):
Where I can see B6 is ATL, again

I completely agree. I do think the optimal time to enter ATL has passed though. They should have done it when DL wasn't doing as well and when FL was moving focus away from ATL.

Now as WN is pulling down FL everywhere except ATL they are focusing back to ATL and DL is now just a generally stronger competitor to any airline.

I think they will do ATL but the most optimal time has passed.



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User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 6998 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7465 times:

Quoting doulasc (Thread starter):

Is Jetblue planning on any expansion in 2013

They said recently that they are probably going to keep some A320s that were supposed to come off lease and grow with them, but I think the are waiting to see what happens with AA before announcing anything new.


User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2866 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7469 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 4):
but I think the are waiting to see what happens with AA before announcing anything new.

They just announced last week SJU to STI and PUJ. While I'm sure what happens with AA would impact how B6 grows, I'm also pretty sure that other things are already on B6's radar scope and will be announced regardless of AA...



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User currently offlineavi8 From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 634 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 7459 times:

Central America should be in their plans as well as more Carribbean service. I would assume a couple of more domestic cities but most expanssion will be out of SJU or international.


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User currently offlinerichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4233 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 7461 times:

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 3):
I completely agree. I do think the optimal time to enter ATL has passed though. They should have done it when DL wasn't doing as well and when FL was moving focus away from ATL.

Now as WN is pulling down FL everywhere except ATL they are focusing back to ATL and DL is now just a generally stronger competitor to any airline.

I think they will do ATL but the most optimal time has passed.

I agree with Jetblue possibly returning to ATL but I am not sure about the "optimal time."

I could be wrong but I believe that with AirTran slowly changing over to WN, there is a continuing downsizing of ATL by FL/WN and the main beneficiary, of course, is DL. Also a factor is that WN doesn't offer Biz Class or other perks, so all those loyal AirTran customers now face a choice to switch over to DL and start earning Skymiles or accept that Southwest offers more modest perks and benefits for loyalty. And because ATL is literally the busiest airport in the world, I really don't know how many "new" customers Southwest is going to drum up with the 'Southwest effect'. My point is that the LCC scene at ATL is evolving and I think there exists an opportunity for B6 (or other carrier, say NK?) to come in and fill a void.

Let's be honest, if Jetblue ever returns to ATL, it won't be by offering flights to LGB. It will be to their hubs at JFK and/or BOS. Possibly other focus cities too, but a return to the Peach State will only exist to offer more complete schedules from their own growing hubs. IIRC, the #1 and #2 business cities from BOS that B6 does not currently fly to are ATL and PHL. Stiff competition on both routes for sure but this is very telling, in my opinion.

For 2013, I could see one or both of these cities being added to the B6 route map, and maybe one or two other domestic cities too. Your guess is as good as mine as to where! MHT anybody? I think any real growth for Jetblue comes, again, in the Caribbean and Central America. If they are going to make places like CTG work, then there are literally a half-dozen other places that are within the realm of possibility. Clearly the Caribbean is now the domain of LCCs and ULCCs at the expense of legacy network carriers, AA mainly. And it's my belief that it is only a matter of time before places like POS and POP are served by Jetblue...



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User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 7457 times:

I see B6 coming to ATL, I think it is time for them to come back.

I don't see B6 coming to PHL because US has so many flights and US would match all the prices and it just won't happen. I fly JetBlue as much as possible from CLT there a great airline


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9690 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7457 times:

What about CUR?

A388


User currently offlineflyguy89 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1888 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7456 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 2):
It's very unlikely they are going to CVG, if they couldn't make CMH and BNA work how on Earth is CVG going to work?

Compared to the other two, CVG wouldn't have any direct LCC competition as well as a larger catchment area to draw from, who knows though, if the city can throw enough money at them it would certainly be nice to see them here.


User currently offlinekcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3791 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7455 times:

Quoting southwest737500 (Reply 8):
I see B6 coming to ATL, I think it is time for them to come back.

I don't see B6 coming to PHL because US has so many flights and US would match all the prices and it just won't happen. I fly JetBlue as much as possible from CLT there a great airline

DL has more ATL flights than US has PHL flights and DL will match prices just the same. DL has the handbook on giving a competing LCC hell in your hub.


User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6423 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7454 times:

I was thinking, what about AZA? F9 will soon be flying out of both PHX and AZA; and I don't see why B6 can't do it.


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User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7456 times:

Quoting kcrwflyer (Reply 11):

I agree but I still don't see PHL happening, didn't B6 do ATL-LGB, To me that was foolish what they need to do is some JFK and BOS flights to ATL


User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7459 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 12):

I was thinking, what about AZA? F9 will soon be flying out of both PHX and AZA; and I don't see why B6 can't do it.

Not only is B6 not focused on the West Coast, they are not focused on a secondary airport as small as AZA in a place that they are not focused on in general.



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User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 2954 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7455 times:

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 14):
Not only is B6 not focused on the West Coast, they are not focused on a secondary airport as small as AZA in a place that they are not focused on in general.

So I guess you're implying that B6 wouldn't be looking at places like BLI, GEG, or FAT either?


User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2741 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days ago) and read 7461 times:
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How about MSP, MKE, STL, or MCI? It surprises me that to this day basically the whole midwest is ignored.
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User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1367 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days ago) and read 7451 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 15):
So I guess you're implying that B6 wouldn't be looking at places like BLI, GEG, or FAT either?

Yes.  



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User currently offlineusairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3372 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7453 times:

Quoting southwest737500 (Reply 8):
I don't see B6 coming to PHL because US has so many flights and US would match all the prices and it just won't happen. I fly JetBlue as much as possible from CLT there a great airline

You essentially contradict yourself here. US has far more flts in CLT than it does in PHL and yet B6 still flies from CLT.

I think it is only a matter of time to see B6 at PHL. Though I think there are 2 things that may conern B6 about the PHL market
-They will likely want to serve PHL-BOS and US has proven that it is extremely dominant on this route. B6 will have to fight it out with low fares and 8+ flts/day
-Not that B6 is looking to make PHL a focus city, but they have to be a bit concerned after the past 2 years US has beaten WN down to a mere 20 something flts. B6 may be conerned that the PHL market is still very much loyal to US and it may be tough to gain a reasonable marketshare.

I can see
PHL-BOS/FLL/MCO
and maybe PHL-SJU


User currently offlineRL757PVD From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4643 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7453 times:

A place like CVG makes sense, esp with no LCC competition to Florida.

B6 could start MCO/FLL same way that BDL, PVD and SWF started and with those two they really wouldnt ruffle many feathers at DL. Then woth an established station its extremely easy to launch JFK and BOS once you have name recognition in the market.



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User currently offlinerichierich From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 4233 posts, RR: 6
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7455 times:

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 18):
I think it is only a matter of time to see B6 at PHL. Though I think there are 2 things that may conern B6 about the PHL market
-They will likely want to serve PHL-BOS and US has proven that it is extremely dominant on this route. B6 will have to fight it out with low fares and 8+ flts/day
-Not that B6 is looking to make PHL a focus city, but they have to be a bit concerned after the past 2 years US has beaten WN down to a mere 20 something flts. B6 may be conerned that the PHL market is still very much loyal to US and it may be tough to gain a reasonable marketshare.

I agree with all points above.
I think BOS-PHL will be saturated right from the start with nobody making a dime. In essence, travellers between the two cities will have to compete between not just two or three airlines but essentially competing loyalties too. PHL obviously tends to be loyal to US and I think the BOS market tends to be very loyal to B6. I think the B6 product, both on-ground and in the air, would be better than US on a route like this (assuming 5-8 frequencies per day) but US clearly has the better mileage and rewards program. Plus they are already well-established on the route, so B6 would have to spend an awful lot to make in-roads. In my opinion, WN would probably be squeezed out of the market or just have token service; they have a great national marketing presence but I think this would be a two dog fight between US and B6. Of course, all of this is dependent on B6 even entering the market - but this is a matter of WHEN not IF, in my opinion.



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User currently onlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5334 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7451 times:

Quoting doulasc (Thread starter):
I read in another thread Jetblue was looking at Cincinnati or was that just rumor?

You've probably read that dream/rumor in about 100 threads over the years here on A.net!  
Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 16):
How about MSP, MKE, STL, or MCI? It surprises me that to this day basically the whole midwest is ignored.

To expand your thought, Blue is also pretty much (with the exceptions of LA and SF) ignoring the entire west these days...
Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 12):
I was thinking, what about AZA? F9 will soon be flying out of both PHX and AZA; and I don't see why B6 can't do it.

And where exactly would Blue fly from AZA? They are barely serving Sky Harbor now - 1 BOS flight and 1 to JFK. (And that's their winter -- peak season -- schedule for Arizona!)

I would be very surprised to see B6 do anything west of the Mississippi for at least the next couple of years. They have become an East Coast-, Caribbean-, and Latin American-centric carrier and I expect that will be where any growth will happen.

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User currently offlineallegiantflyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 7451 times:

Maybe we can see TUS possibly again?

User currently offlineplanedudea380 From Puerto Rico, joined May 2007, 19 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7452 times:

I believe they were talking and seeing DAB as a possibility

User currently offlineflyby519 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 7449 times:

Quoting SANFan (Reply 21):
They have become an East Coast-, Caribbean-, and Latin American-centric carrier and I expect that will be where any growth will happen.

Exactly. There has been no evidence of jetblue changing from this mindset, so everyone in the rest of the country shouldnt hold their breath for any expansion.



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25 Post contains images fxramper : I'd love to see expansion out of AUS or EWR and and direct flight between to two would be great.
26 brilondon : Could we see DTW in the future?
27 jonathanxxxx : I think JetBlue could make a move a bit deeper into South America. From MCO and FLL once their A320's have sharklets they'll be able to reach places l
28 airliner371 : No it doesn't. Have you seen B6's route map. It doesn't make sense at all for B6. Very unlikely. EWR needs slots and WN has beaten them in AUS and th
29 LimaFoxTango : How likely is ANU being added to the list? With AA on that route from JFK, I'm not sure how much market will be left for B6. But with the pull out of
30 Stackhouse007 : What about a service to BON? Would love to see more airlines trying to go there. Any thoughts?
31 FWAERJ : Back when AA was drawing down STL, there were rumors of B6 taking over Concourse D. Those never came to fruition. IND has also been mentioned in the
32 RL757PVD : Im referring to the lack of other LCC's to Florida. If B6 is willing to start cities like BDL (7x WN florida flights) and PVD (11x WN florida flights
33 727LOVER : Aren't you contradicting yourself?? B6 is doing fine at one US hub, but is scared to try another US hub???
34 N766UA : I'd love to see them come to CLE. UAL flies unchecked on CLE-BOS (unless you count airtan from CAK) and CLE-JFK is dominated by regional jets. I'd bet
35 airliner371 : For B6 its less the MCO/FLL opportunity and more where the city being added is. If no one flies MCI or STL to Florida they aren't going to start serv
36 airliner371 : CAK competes very well with CLE. FL flies CAK-BOS as you mention but they also fly CAK-LGA which really helps CAK.
37 NWADTWE16 : Cant wait! This WILL be a successful station right out of the gate..my prediction for DTW would be 1 daily FLL/2 daily JFK and sometime down the road
38 N766UA : Which tells me B6 might do well, considering a fair share of FL's CAK-BOS pax are dodging United's high fares. If JetBlue came in and offered 200$ r/
39 greggariouspdx : What about TUL ? Metro population of 1 million, a strong economy, and limited direct service to East and West Coasts.
40 Post contains images chrisnh : The talk of Worcester, Massachusetts is just SILLY with Boston being so close by. Why, that's like them flying to Los Angeles AND Long Beach. Just sil
41 spchamp1 : I wouldnt expect any new announcements from B6 that pertain to opening any new cities on the West. They will continue to expand BOS and the Carribbean
42 jetmatt777 : OKC would come first if they came to this region. And I doubt OKC is on their list right now.
43 usafret : Would love to have them in STL, but D Concourse is mothballed and not being renovated like A and C (B is closed). US Airways just filled in some C Con
44 wingnutmn : I know it is not optimum when you could fly to JFK, but why doesn't B6 try to fly MSP-Caribbean direct? There are a ton of people who fly out of here
45 Post contains images FWAERJ : And at the rate things are going at STL, I think we could see WN take over/renovate the east D gates and reopen the D-E connector...
46 SCQ83 : Can anyone name the major US airports JetBlue is not flying to yet? I was very surprised when reading the comments, that they don't fly to ATL, DTW or
47 airliner371 : It does not go with B6 at all. The city can be large with a great economy but it doesn't fit with B6 at all. Very, very unlikely.
48 FWAERJ : In the Midwest alone: -CAK -CLE -CMH (tried once) -CVG -DAY -DSM -DTW -GRR -IND -MCI -MDW (though they do serve ORD) -MKE -MSP -SDF -STL Not to menti
49 Lambertman : There's no market for them in St. Louis, unfortunately. They were set to enter in 2006 - when there was opportunity, but with WN beefing up St. Louis
50 BOStonsox : The five largest markets not served from BOS by B6 are PHL (1270 PDEW from the Boston CSA), ATL (1052 PDEW), MSP (577 PDEW), HOU (493 PDEW), and DTW (
51 USAirALB : In the Northeast/New England: -PHL -ALB -MHT -ISP I'd be willing to be MHT will get B6 service at one point or another. I'm surprised they haven't tri
52 bos2laf : As far as ATL goes: Credible sources tell me that its a great big "Hell no!" and I'm inclined to believe them. The WN/FL merger was a major game-chang
53 usairways85 : Actually WN has been able to hold onto many of the PHL-Florida flts. Granted they gained a few with FL. Where as WN flew PHL-BOS for all of a few mon
54 BHMNONREV : Still plenty of gates on C, even with US taking a couple. Nothing stopping them.. Agreed, that ship has sailed. Shame, I flew them recently coming ba
55 bos2laf : And that's why you probably won't see anything more than PHL-BOS on B6 if at all. They look for routes where there's not a lot of competition, so the
56 yellowtail : Here is the list in order of preference for C. American for Jet Blue (as I see it) GUA BZE PTY SAL SAP.
57 richierich : I agree - BOS-PHL is a very likely possibility but PHL would only be served from BOS. Much like B6 currently does with BWI (adding PHL service may ev
58 Post contains links SurfandSnow : Here are a few of my ideas: ANU - I believe the island has been in talks with B6 for quite some time. As one of the larger Caribbean markets without s
59 airliner371 : B6 doesn't seem interested in Mexico. I doubt they will do anything in Mexico. I'm not saying they won't but there is no void in that market. US serv
60 doulasc : On EYW- If National Airlines got a Lockheed Electra and Boeing 727-100 into Key West in the Late 1960s,JetBlue surely could get a A320 into EYW.[Edit
61 deltairlines : No, it really is silly. Comparing the JetBlue LA basin operation to BOS/ORH is Apples/Oranges. In California, JetBlue was hampered by a (rather limit
62 Post contains images werdywerd : I believe a new city will be announced tomorrow and from what I can see, don't think anyone has guessed it yet
63 airliner371 : Something I haven't seen come up but the airport has made a big deal about is PHF and JetBlue. I also remember Dave Barger mention Hyannis as a possi
64 BOStonsox : Does anyone know how many new cities are supposed to be announced in 2013? Or how many will start in 2013? CHS will start in 2013, but was announced i
65 Post contains links bos2laf : I seem to recall a picture on twitter of a giant cake sent to Long Island City from the PHF airport authority. Edit: here's the link: http://t.co/dyp
66 jetbluefan1 : Must be domestic unless it's really outside the box Caribbean/international. Putting a couple dollars on PHL. It's 10:18 on the East Coast and we hav
67 RL757PVD : I see ALB on the city list on jetblue.com.... although... might just be a 9K codeshare via BOS for them...[Edited 2012-11-14 07:21:49]
68 bos2laf : Probably 9K connections via BOS.
69 RL757PVD : Key West and the upstate NY EAS cities were also on there, I wasnt aware they expanded the codeshare that much.
70 Post contains images werdywerd : HINT: It's west of PIT and east of LAX Last I heard it was going to be announced later today, but like everything else, it sometimes gets delayed. Let
71 slcdeltarumd11 : CMH and BNA both have major low cost carrier competition. CVG is up against all legacies and high average fares. I could see CVG working
72 richierich : There's a lot of non-B6 cities on their city drop-down list, including Hawaii and other AA connection cities. ALB is most likely a Cape Air connectio
73 jetbluefan1 : So the Midwest? For some reason, CLE is sticking out to me. No longer a CO/UA mega-hub, small WN presence. No other LCC competition, and likely healt
74 richierich : Tantalizing clues, werdywerd! I did hear that B6 was recently in Roswell but that was only a place to safe harbor a plane or two during Hurricane San
75 RL757PVD : CVG has a total offering of 3x MCO 1x FLL on DL In contrast PVD has a total of 7x MCO (6x off peak) and 3x FLL (2x off peak) There is more than enough
76 bos2laf : That doesn't necessarily mean the midwest. If the hint was between PIT and DEN, then I would say the midwest was a sure bet. Don't forget though, tha
77 turk223 : I'd like to think B6 will see some growth in its hub operation at SJU and start more intra-Caribbean flights... There is little connectivity between m
78 flyby519 : 5 new bluecities in 2013 (including CHS)
79 RL757PVD : I dont doubt that BOS would be in the cards, im just saying CVG would be super easy and if they did MCO/FLL Delta probably would even bat an eye, whe
80 yellowtail : If they can make CTG work then there a whole lot of other destinations than can surely work too...places like RTB. CTG is the talk of the travel indu
81 flyinryan99 : If it's Domestic - what about DTW? I do a lot of travel to the northeast and it's been costing a pretty penny lately.
82 RL757PVD : I believe that ISP would have already been announced had they not gotten the additional slots at LGA. Divert the Florida traffic to keep gates for bus
83 SANFan : If we are to pay any attention to werdywerd, who also offered the hints in reply #70 that people seem to be paying attention to, (and he seems to kno
84 werdywerd : Well our 77th City has been announced internally (Fellow Jetblue peeps check your email) It will be publicly announced tomorrow!
85 RL757PVD : Im hearding ABQ redeye turn....
86 isp2 : In addition to the new JFK-ABQ service, B6 is ending JFK-PIT, BUR-LAS, end reducing BUR overall to a single redeye flight to JFK. JFK-LAX to increase
87 1337Delta764 : Yawn. JFK-TUS flopped as a route for B6, and JFK-ABQ will too. The O&D just isn't there. This route would be better served by DL, since DL can pr
88 jfklganyc : I agree, that this will probable be started by UA at EWR and or DL at JFK...at all will get knocked off an unprofitable route. JFK-PIT is sad. They ca
89 mbm3 : Granted, being from CLE makes me a bit biased, but the businessman in me looks at the relatively under served CLE - JFK route (DL 2x and AA 1x) combi
90 Stackhouse007 : I agree. I think that would be awesome for B6. I want to see more service into BON!
91 Post contains images BOStonsox : The jetBlue blog shows new service to not one, but two new cities, the first being ABQ but the second being AZS (Samana, DR). Both routes will be JFK-
92 airliner371 : ABQ was announced today but AZS is starting today. AZS was announced a while back.
93 Post contains images SANFan : In light of what another insider (I assume) said, I assume you, isp2', were not out of line reporting what you just did. That being said, and IF it i
94 Post contains links airliner371 : http://blog.jetblue.com/index.php/20...next-stop-the-land-of-enchantment/ They were probably offered money. I don't see how ABQ otherwise would work i
95 Post contains links FlyPeoria : I guess this was prophetic: http://www.bizjournals.com/albuquerq...-albuquerque-as-good.html?page=all
96 werdywerd : Yes ABQ it is! I guess if it is noted in our Blog then I guess you can call it Public Info already lol
97 flyby519 : Agreed. It is sad, but the only things seemingly working from JFK are Florida and Caribbean routes.
98 1337Delta764 : Hopefully DL is paying attention to this announcement. DL really needs to respond by offering ABQ-JFK flights that provide adequate time to make inter
99 RL757PVD : Couple things... 1) How much international traffic does ABQ really generate that cannot be accomodated via ATL? Really enough to merit a daytime ABQ-
100 deltairlines : Why? Atlanta offers connections to every major city in Europe - JFK hits the more secondary cities (and tertiary in the summer, when ATL gets some se
101 jetbluefan1 : ABQ is really a complete surprise. I would think that with oil at $85+/bbl, long and thin cross-country (or nearly cross-country) flights would be ma
102 jfklganyc : It is not. They are paring their losses. Let's face it, any of these cities with 2 or 3 flights (besides the redeye cities that use an otherwise idle
103 usairways85 : Well WN has how many "focus cities/hubs"? B6 has LGB/BOS/JFK/MCO/FLL/SJU. Throw out LGB and maybe SJU and places like RDU/CLT/PIT really only have 4
104 jetbluefan1 : The only reason I stated that it's a "solid performer" is because B6 management constantly reminds shareholders that BOS is very profitable as yields
105 1337Delta764 : For some reason, I can't help it but think that the City of Albuquerque probably gave B6 some incentives to start the route. If JFK-TUS didn't work fo
106 Flytravel : B6 might want to consider PIT-MCO/FLL as a replacement of JFK. It'll be a loss leader until FL ceases. The WN flights won't be on the travel websites
107 bjorn14 : I think Haiti is still a wreck. I believe they were there for paint.
108 USAirALB : Sadly, I agree. I often wonder who flies the CLT-JFK/BOS flight simply because business customers based in CLT are likely loyal to US. I'd be curious
109 glbltrvlr : They reduced landing fees and gate rent - but under the same terms that are offered to any new airline. No route subsidies.
110 ABQ747 : The problem with TUS is that they bleed so much traffic to PHX, whereas ABQ serves the entire state of New Mexico. I think the ABQ flight will do jus
111 glbltrvlr : I'm also very optimistic. There is a very large community tie between ABQ and NYC that supported non-stop service by TWA for years. Assuming the econ
112 ABQ747 : I think TW used to fly 762s and L-1011s between JFK and ABQ.
113 B6JFKH81 : That would be correct. ROW is where our aircraft re-paints are performed, and it has been a very busy year for re-painting aircraft for us!
114 airliner371 : Is B6 repainting aircraft into barcode? I feel like I see so many and almost none in any other livery. Is there a goal to have one tail livery?
115 icebird757 : I saw one of our A320s 2 days ago that was repainted in the last week or two and it was in the Blueberries scheme.
116 shanderawx : How about SAT? A large urban area with nonstop flights to EWR on UA and intermittently JFK with DL.;[Edited 2012-11-14 20:02:02][Edited 2012-11-14 21:
117 Post contains images Surfandsnow : Thanks for the update isp2! JFK-ABQ certainly comes as a surprise. I had considered all domestic markets outside of the LGA perimeter, and I figured
118 BOStonsox : On second thought, two of those cities, CHS and ABQ, have already been announced, leaving only three, and I have a feeling that one of those is eithe
119 glbltrvlr : Unfortunately, that isn't what is happening. The ABQ-JFK leg is a redeye that leaves ABQ at 11:55PM and arrives at JFK at 5:57AM. The return flight l
120 RL757PVD : Thats not what I was getting at... my point was that chances are ABQ does not generate enough european demand to justify the daytime flight and prime
121 glbltrvlr : Sorry - read your post too fast. I agree ABQ is on the margins. There is a significant government presence in ABQ (actually greater New Mexico) and a
122 MaverickM11 : And JFKPIT gets canned... Also BURLAS but that's not much of a surprise. Not sure why they bothered with that.
123 mah4546 : And BURJFK down to a measily one daily. B6 once had quite the operate at Burbank...
124 SANFan : ...Adding BUR to the list of other Blue stations in the west with just 1 or 2 daily flights. And if it weren't for the slot-squatting filler flights
125 Post contains links jamake1 : The mayor of ABQ announced today that B6 will commence flights between JFK and ABQ this Spring. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/albuqu...-jetblue-flight
126 YVRLTN : How about north into Canada? Their are rumors at YVR B6 are interested in coming here - I would imagine JFK would be the route, which seems a bit daft
127 airliner371 : Dave Barger said he plans on doing a codeshare with a Canadian carrier but not serve Canada.
128 kcrwflyer : What's your basis for saying that? Just an assumption, or perhaps some deep internal belief that an airline cant make money at a station unless they
129 Post contains links LAXintl : Here is another new route - SEA-ANC Starts May 16, 2013. JetBlue to Give Alaska Customers a New Option With Debut of Anchorage - Seattle Route http://
130 Flytravel : Except on the view of whether to do long hauls, WN is heading more like B6. The new WN cities have a lot less in departures, e.g. PWM only with 3x da
131 doulasc : I was just looking at JetBlue's route map.They have LAX-JFK/BOS/FLL. I wonder if JetBlue will ever add LAX-MCO or TPA. There is a market for it.
132 KarlB737 : Since JetBlue has avoided the Midwest as though it was a disease don't hold your breath. I couldn't have stated it better with the exception of the s
133 jetblueguy22 : Well they have avoided it, but there has to be a certain point where they will hit a wall with the coasts. DL would probably fight in MSP, but they c
134 AA767LOVER : JetBlue should ditch JFK-PIT. PIT is a bit of a dump. Even US dropped them. Here are cities making better sense - more international would be good . .
135 Continental : MSP is connected to NY by SY, AA, UA and DL. BOS by DL and NK. BOS would probably be the better option.
136 Post contains images PITrules : Intelligent [Edited 2012-11-18 18:33:22]
137 mtnwest1979 : How about adding SAV and MSP?
138 deltairlines : Adding LAX-MCO would make no sense for them. You've already got six flights a day on the route with four carriers (DL, UA, AA and VX). There's plenty
139 Shamrock137 : I wouldn't be sure about MHT. Manchester, while its the fourth largest airport in New England, has had trouble maintaining passenger numbers. They ha
140 southwest737500 : PIT should just be dropped entirely I would like to no how they are performing on the BOS route
141 deltairlines : And what is your rational on this one? B6 has a lot larger share of BOS-PIT than NYC-PIT. B6 is a distant third in market share for PIT-NYC and has t
142 BOStonsox : Okay, as I said earlier, the top five markets without B6 from BOS are PHL, ATL, MSP, HOU, and DTW. BOS-HOU is low-lying fruit that they need to grab b
143 ABQopsHP : Im going to throw this question out there, for curiosity sake. Is there a reason why, B6 and VX do not consider thru flight p2p operations? Or has WN
144 JOYA380B747 : I'd love more B6 connectivity btwn JFK-PHX, especially evening westwards and red-eye on the return legs.
145 Post contains images foppishbum : Where do I find the source for this news? I do JFKBUR every two weeks on the red eye. The loads seem pretty good. A lot of friends fly the morning fl
146 LAXintl : Airlines don't post news releases for cuts. But to verify this, simply look online at the JetBlue website and the schedule listing shows the morning
147 tharanga : Is that really true - will there be an airside exit from customs?
148 deltairlines : No, it's not possible (unless arriving from a pre-clearance station, which already can arrive at a domestic gate). All passengers must reclear securi
149 allegiantflyer : Wasn't LGB small when B6 started service? Tell me if i'm wrong but isn't LGB one of Jetblue's primary focus cities a secondary airport??
150 BOStonsox : I thought that when the C-E connector is built you would be able to go to Terminal C without going back through security. I might be wrong about that
151 airliner371 : Actually LGB is probably the least cared about focus city out of them all at B6 but it is a focus city.
152 avi8 : Does anyone know how B6 is doing in BOS-DFW? 3 daily with A320 was pretty agressive.
153 deltairlines : It would open up the possibility of B6 landing or departing from E and not needing to reclear security unless coming off an international inbound fli
154 flyby519 : True, but a large part of the LGB focus is LAX flying. I'll wager B6 has more ASMs out of LAX than LGB. I believe it started as an E190 only route, s
155 southwest737500 : Do you think B6 days are numbered in PIT
156 tharanga : I'm trying to think of any situation in the US where you stay on the sterile side, coming out of customs. The only thing I can think of is the facili
157 BHMNONREV : Everyone gets recleared after Customs, bag drop, then up the escalator into C.
158 jfklganyc : No. Simply because they want to keep a presence. I think PIT is a money loser on both routes much like CLT, RDU, IAD, RIC and ORD. But I think if the
159 southwest737500 : Does anyone no what the loads are in CLT,RDU, RIC because I have friends who flown specifically the CLT-JFK and CLT-BOS route and they said it always
160 enilria : I've heard CLT is quite good. Why would you think otherwise?
161 southwest737500 : I heard CLT was great from friends anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if one if the flights gets upgraded to a A320
162 n471wn : Rumour has it among B6 planners that they are going to fly Hawaii out of Long Beach in 2014.
163 Post contains images bos2laf : It's meant more for connectors from C to E to make transfers to B6 partners more seamless. At least out of BOS, I would say you were wrong on all cou
164 N766UA : I disagree. I think if B6 is losing money continuously, they'll absolutely leave. Look at CMH.
165 FWAERJ : Could the A320 even make it with a full payload, or will the forthcoming A321s with Sharklets handle it? Personally, even though it's a natural fit,
166 SurfandSnow : According to wikipedia, B6 starts getting the A320neo in 2016. That date may be wrong, but the airline certainly can't serve Hawaii with its current
167 flyby519 : I just don't see Hawaii happening unless B6 changes their focus to the West Coast. As things stand today it is all about Northeast to Florida/Caribbe
168 bos2laf : I would have to agree, I dont see it either... B6 has recently shown a preference to go for markets without a lot of competition, like BOS/JFK-CHS, J
169 southwest737500 : I can see B6 add SAV,DAB
170 AA767LOVER : And PIT does make sense for B6? CVG is still a major DL hub, what happened to PIT? Why did US dump them? I don't understand it myself. PIT as a city
171 jfklganyc : I think SAV is likely
172 jetbluefan1 : I agree. Especially considering the last two announced cities were domestic (CHS then ABQ), and CHS is a similar market to SAV (little competition to
173 BOStonsox : BOS-SAV has only 102 PDEW, but it has supported nonstop service before, the E190 might be good on that route. Then hopefully pax will be able to go t
174 jfklganyc : I think that is correct. Someone mentioned the small market between BOS and SAV. No need to serve the route. They will serve the markets that work fro
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