jayeshrulz From India, joined Apr 2007, 1000 posts, RR: 4 Posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3420 times:
"I am so excited about the 777 Tour," said Rihanna. "We are turning this jumbo jet into our tour bus. We're practically living on this thing for a week: sleeping, partying, all together. Me, my fans, the press...it's going to be a wild ride. I wanted it to be a rock n' roll adventure, and I think when it's over it will be the coolest thing I've ever done. I'm that excited about it."
Sponsored by HTC Corporation and co-sponsored in the UK by River Island and in Paris by Microsoft, the "777" tour will take a group of die-hard fans and a traveling international press corps of over 150 journalists representing 82 countries, aboard a chartered Boeing 777 twinjet to 7 concerts in 7 days in 7 countries. The "777" tour will host an intimate gig in each of 7 cities in 7 different countries.
B757forever From United States of America, joined May 2010, 249 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3455 times:
Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8748 posts, RR: 52 Reply 4, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3450 times:
It would have been far more interesting if it was 7 continents, but I guess there's no 777 capable of landing in Antarctica to give the penguins a concert.
NOVEMBER 14th IN MEXICO CITY;
NOVEMBER 15th IN TORONTO;
NOVEMBER 16th IN STOCKHOLM;
NOVEMBER 17th IN PARIS;
NOVEMBER 18th IN BERLIN;
NOVEMBER 19th, WORLDWIDE ALBUM RELEASE DATE, IN LONDON;
NOVEMBER 20th IN NEW YORK CITY
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NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3084 posts, RR: 5 Reply 6, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3445 times:
They don't even go to Asia and only 2 continents. Maiden hit 6 continents in the Flight 666 tour starting in Europe, going to India, Japan then Australia then to LA down to Mexico City, Central America and South America before back to NY and Toronto before heading back to Europe
She is going to be fighting fatigue/jet lag going from performing in Toronto one night then having Stockholm the next night.
cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7710 posts, RR: 55 Reply 7, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3439 times:
Quoting fxramper (Reply 5): It's been done before with Iron Maiden and with a hell of a lot more class.
The difference between Maiden and Rihanna is that Rihanna isn't driving the plane.
Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 6): She is going to be fighting fatigue/jet lag going from performing in Toronto one night then having Stockholm the next night.
I would think they'll depart late at night from YYZ (subject to curfew - perhaps they can get an excemption if there is one) and fly overnight. Stockholm is a good choice to touch down in Europe cos it's a small, low-key city without lots of media, so demands on the artist during the day will be slight. She can get some sleep on the plane over - at least 1x four hour cycle - then land and go straight to a hotel and sleep for another four hour cycle, emerge about 6pm for soundcheck then have a few hours to do press / socialise etc before the gig. No fatigue issues there at all. Quite a nice schedule actually. Will be interesting to see what the actual times are for the flight - but that's my guess. Dep YYZ 2345 arr ARN 1330.
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trent772 From Colombia, joined Oct 2012, 90 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3437 times:
Quoting fxramper (Reply 5): It's been done before with Iron Maiden and with a hell of a lot more class.
Completely Agree, real musicians are an extinct breed, all we have now are performers (if you can call them that), the era of true artists is long gone.
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AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 9, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3439 times:
WestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1272 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3438 times:
Quoting trent772 (Reply 8): real musicians are an extinct breed, all we have now are performers (if you can call them that), the era of true artists is long gone.
Not true at all. There are still plenty of great musicians around, they just aren't in the foreground as much as they once were compared to the "performers".
Have you seen how much concert tickets go for these days? Hint: it's insane.
Let's say the average ticket is $150, and that the average venue is going to hold 8,000 fans (that's on the low-end for a tour like this). That means revenue is $1.2M per show, multiplied by 7 shows is $8.4M.
She'll have no problem chartering this 777 for a week. Tough life eh?
AirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 26 Reply 13, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3438 times:
Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 12): She'll have no problem chartering this 777 for a week. Tough
While that may be true, not much left over after she's paid for the venue costs, taxes, band payroll, etc etc..... That's a lot if money.
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But priceless in terms of getting the media talking about it (i.e. free advertising).
I'm guessing that the average demographic of ANet doesn't exactly fall within Rihanna's target audience, yet it is being discussed. Just wait until the gossip pages get hold of it...
Probably HTC, River Island and Microsoft in return for having logos plastered over it...
With Maiden they worked out that it was cheaper to charter then to use commercial for what they wanted to do, and with everything (gear, band, crew) travelling together they could fit in more shows in less time..
flyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 1005 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (6 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3441 times:
Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 4): It would have been far more interesting if it was 7 continents, but I guess there's no 777 capable of landing in Antarctica to give the penguins a concert.
Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 6): They don't even go to Asia and only 2 continents. Maiden hit 6 continents in the Flight 666 tour starting in Europe, going to India, Japan then Australia then to LA down to Mexico City, Central America and South America before back to NY and Toronto before heading back to Europe
The biggest problem is the 7 days restriction. This schedule is tough enough to keep as it is. If you add in a longhaul flight every night and time zone changes, it gets a lot harder to pull it off.
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kl911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 4977 posts, RR: 14 Reply 20, posted (6 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3442 times:
Quoting fxramper (Reply 5): Maiden hit 6 continents in the Flight 666 tour starting in Europe, going to India, Japan then Australia then to LA down to Mexico City, Central America and South America before back to NY and Toronto before heading back to Europe
Could Iron Maiden be the launch customer for the new Boeing 666?
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Tdan From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 306 posts, RR: 3 Reply 22, posted (6 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3443 times:
Quoting Newark727 (Reply 14): Quoting fxramper (Reply 5):
It's been done before with Iron Maiden and with a hell of a lot more class.
I can't say I ever thought of Iron Maiden as classy.
Little do you know....... Google Bruce, Flight 666, etc. and watch some of the behind the scenes youtube footage from both the somewhere back in time and final frontier tours and then make a judgement on whether or not you consider Maiden 'classy.' At the very least as an airline enthusiast, you've got to admit that Bruce the rockstar-pilot is interesting!
Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 12): Quoting trent772 (Reply 8):
real musicians are an extinct breed, all we have now are performers (if you can call them that), the era of true artists is long gone.
Not true at all. There are still plenty of great musicians around, they just aren't in the foreground as much as they once were compared to the "performers".
Both are SO true! There are plenty of good musicians still out there, but you have to go to a club or smaller venue to see them. The era of new stadium/arena acts that are actually great musicians has sadly passed (though I'm still holding out for a revival!).
Back to topic, have there been any flight plans filed for this aircraft? Curious to see the schedule they are using to operate the flight. Seems very aggressive, especially if they are carrying gear in the cargo hold. Does Rhianna and her 'band' even have gear?
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crownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1595 posts, RR: 6 Reply 23, posted (6 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3443 times:
Okay Im asking for trouble here, but much more impressive was the Back Street Boys around the world tour in 100 hrs...they took in Japan, Australia, South Africa, South America and NYC in less then 5 days...Much more impressive...If you can tolerate the band there is a great video that documents that trip on the 767....
NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3084 posts, RR: 5 Reply 26, posted (6 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4227 times:
You ever see her ticket prices, contracts, merchandise sales, sponsorships and endorsements.
Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 12): Not true at all. There are still plenty of great musicians around, they just aren't in the foreground as much as they once were compared to the "performers".
Unfortunately real musicians are no longer radio friendly especially with Kareoke shows like American Idull being shoved down our throat.
They do exist in Europe. A band like Nightwish, which will only play a House of Blues size club in the US will sell out large arenas in Europe and Japan. Iron Maiden is one of the few talented musician bands that can sell out a large arena still in the U.S, at least since Bruce returned. I saw them in 1996 with Blayze Bayley singing for them while Bruce was doing his solo albums and getting his pilot license and Maiden was just playing large clubs. As soon as Bruce and Adrian returned they were back to playing large outdoor shows and arenas.
It is us Americans who have a bad taste in music that we pick performers over musicians, where very few performers now could even write a measure of music.
Quoting Tdan (Reply 23): Little do you know....... Google Bruce, Flight 666, etc. and watch some of the behind the scenes youtube footage from both the somewhere back in time and final frontier tours and then make a judgement on whether or not you consider Maiden 'classy.' At the very least as an airline enthusiast, you've got to admit that Bruce the rockstar-pilot is interesting!
Not only that but he also is a champion fencer and a business owner - opening or has opened a large aircraft maintenance facility in Wales. He is checked out on several aircraft now I believe - 737, 757, DC-3, DC-4 and I am sure many smaller planes too. I have seen videos of him flying a Tiger Moth even.
Newark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1175 posts, RR: 0 Reply 27, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4768 times:
Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 27): Unfortunately real musicians are no longer radio friendly especially with Kareoke shows like American Idull being shoved down our throat.
Not to interrupt a well intentioned "kids these days" rant but radio friendliness is hardly anything new, my dad tells me it was a pretty big deal when the radio started playing Led Zeppelin songs that were longer than the usual time of threeish minutes.
Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 12): She'll have no problem chartering this 777 for a week. Tough life eh?
Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 26):
You ever see her ticket prices, contracts, merchandise sales, sponsorships and endorsements
Rhianna is one of the highest grossing musical performers currently working, She has made several hundred million dollars in her short career, There is no question that she is not footing the bill for this, most likely her record label or promotional company is paying. I would venture to say this gimmick will help them rake in truck loads of cash. There are fans the world over of her music who can, and will pay hundreds of dollars a seat to see her perform. Not my thing, but good for her, she seems to be morally and socially responsible with her giving back from her excessive fortune.
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yellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5164 posts, RR: 2 Reply 30, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4655 times:
Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 28): Looks like Delta, there's a DL 772 enroute to MEX right now from LAX, flight number 8857.
Some slack in the winter timetable. This will be a good way to keep the bird busy.
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bikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1598 posts, RR: 4 Reply 33, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4689 times:
Quoting Tdan (Reply 22): Back to topic, have there been any flight plans filed for this aircraft? Curious to see the schedule they are using to operate the flight. Seems very aggressive, especially if they are carrying gear in the cargo hold. Does Rhianna and her 'band' even have gear?
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 30):
Some slack in the winter timetable. This will be a good way to keep the bird busy.
Maybe two birds . . . my bet is that they will have two sets of stage equipment . . . one being used while the other gets dismantled and flown to the next-next venue. And if they really wanted to be sure, they would have one set sitting in some airport somewhere just in case one of the set run into trouble.
speedbird0125 From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 183 posts, RR: 0 Reply 37, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4823 times:
Today, I saw one DL 777 (N864DL?!) sitting at the private site of LAX. It seemed it was a charter flight. Maybe it could be the one?
jporterfi From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 358 posts, RR: 0 Reply 39, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4785 times:
I assume that the assertion of the flight number being DL 8857 is correct, as DL usually doesn't fly nonstop between LAX and MEX, and FlightAware shows that DL 8857 flew that route today. Assuming that is true, she is flying on N862DA. It landed in MEX about 2 hours ago, according to FlightAware.
MCOflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 8553 posts, RR: 14 Reply 40, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4684 times:
LostSound From Canada, joined May 2012, 161 posts, RR: 0 Reply 41, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 4659 times:
I'ma get slaughtered but I'll take a listen to Rihanna over Iron Maiden any day.
Music taste varies so to make a general statement spoken as a fact that music now is not as good as music prior is totally subjective. For me older songs just don't do it. I much rather current stuff. For some reason people think "current stuff" is only acts like Lady Gaga, One Direction, Justin Bieber but that's not true. There's plenty of brilliant current songs, you've just got to search further than the radio!
As for the 777, I think it's awesome she even matched the aircraft with the tour. :P
Neat idea.
XFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3957 posts, RR: 36 Reply 43, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4602 times:
The number 8857 will follow it (the same ship) through the tour.
delta747tlv From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 22 posts, RR: 0 Reply 46, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 4822 times:
The aircraft routing is MEX-YYZ-ARN-CDG-SXF-STN-EWR, terminating at EWR on 20nov. The same ship will follow the whole way with that flight number and 12 lucky flight attendants and 3 pilots that get to follow along on the easiest rotation ever.
XFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3957 posts, RR: 36 Reply 47, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4680 times:
2 pilots did LAX-MEX... that was one rotation.
The rest of the trip is different pilots and a complete separate rotation.
travelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1381 posts, RR: 5 Reply 49, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4523 times:
Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 6): She is going to be fighting fatigue/jet lag going from performing in Toronto one night then having Stockholm the next night.
Nothing some Colombian Sneezing powder can't fix...
Quoting premobrimo (Reply 42):
This is a picture of boarding the flight in MEX.
I would have expected a special livery, this is a tad normal.
FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6520 posts, RR: 11 Reply 51, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4501 times:
Quoting travelavnut (Reply 49): I would have expected a special livery, this is a tad normal.
Depends on when her people actually decided to go with DL. FWIW, this wasn't in the charter schedule a couple weeks ago so was most likely a close in booking. Besides; it's a win win. Big marketing gimmick for Delta.
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XFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3957 posts, RR: 36 Reply 52, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4421 times:
Quoting 71Zulu (Reply 48): The plane left about 2 1/2 hours late from MEX, wonder what happened.
Charters rarely operate as scheduled. They go when the client is ready to go!
jayeshrulz From India, joined Apr 2007, 1000 posts, RR: 4 Reply 53, posted (6 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4487 times:
Quoting delta747tlv (Reply 46): The aircraft routing is MEX-YYZ-ARN-CDG-SXF-STN-EWR, terminating at EWR on 20nov. The same ship will follow the whole way with that flight number and 12 lucky flight attendants and 3 pilots that get to follow along on the easiest rotation ever.
Thanks for the pictures!
Quoting travelavnut (Reply 49): I would have expected a special livery, this is a tad normal.
Exactly, just a little sticker on the 777 mentioning its a charter for Rihanna would've done the trick.
I'm not asking something like Metallica for their 757's. But just tad normal sticker!
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 38): Possibly one of the only times I've actually wanted an aircraft to go tech.
Hahaha, why is that? Dont like Rihanna, or Delta? :P
tugger From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 4633 posts, RR: 7 Reply 57, posted (6 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4314 times:
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 13): Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 12):
She'll have no problem chartering this 777 for a week. Tough
While that may be true, not much left over after she's paid for the venue costs, taxes, band payroll, etc etc..... That's a lot if money.
Though I am sure you will cringe at the band involved but this is an interesting article:
Quote: Executives at the band’s management company, Union Entertainment Group (UEG), also note that Kroeger tours on the cheap. Rather than use expensive special effects or stage tricks, a Nickelback show consists largely of the band playing in front of a big screen that projects lyrics and slides (plump lips, sexy silhouettes). A few gizmos such as flamethrowers and concussion mortars simulate bomb blasts with bright flashes and deafening ka-booms during some songs. For bigger arenas, a circular “flying stage” rises up to 20 feet in the air.
For superstars, all that’s minimal; Lady Gaga, by contrast, requires a multilevel castle, a platoon of backup dancers, and an aerial high-wire system. Forgoing such theatrics reduces set-up time and transport costs. “Typically when you have a band that has so many hits, you can produce a show that is still entertaining but you don’t have to go overboard with special effects to fill the night,” says Live Nation President and Chief Executive Officer Michael Rapino. “The No. 1 thing that the band is worried about isn’t the shiny balls, it’s what is the ticket price going to be this summer and how do I make sure I have a fairly affordable show.”
A Nickelback show costs around $230,000 to produce, according to UEG, about average for a touring group. A seat goes for about $61, a fraction of Gaga’s prices. At that price, venues usually sell out. The group averages about 11,000 fans a stop: That’s $671,000 a show. According to UEG, ticket sales for about 80 shows in North America and Europe should gross about $53 million in 2012.
In Noblesville, two sales tents are packed throughout the night. Stand operator Brittany Baker, 22, says some of Nickelback’s logo-adorned offerings, such as $10 beer cozies and $40 T-shirts, are standard for most groups that roll through. They’ve also got $4 collectible cups, a $30 set of drum sticks, and $20 red panties with “Rockstar” on them. UEG confirms that one stand alone can take in about $100,000 for the night. That could add up to as much as $200,000 per venue or an additional $16 million over the course of the tour.
mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9197 posts, RR: 14 Reply 59, posted (6 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 4087 times:
Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 26): It is us Americans who have a bad taste in music that we pick performers over musicians, where very few performers now could even write a measure of music.
Depends on what kind of music we're listening to, I guess......and there are plenty of musicians out there that can't really read music, let alone write it.
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FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6520 posts, RR: 11 Reply 60, posted (6 months 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 4063 times:
Quoting bikerthai (Reply 56): Anyone know what is the configuration of the cabin?
I'm pretty sure it's in standard config.
45 flat-bed seats, 224 coach seats.
Quoting yyz717 (Reply 55): Odd that DL would pull a 772 from sked service for this concert tour. Either it's a spare and/or Rihanna is paying big $ for this.
You would be surprised the amount of charters Delta does on a daily basis. Example, for yesterday alone there were 25 live charter flights not counting ferries to get the a/c to or from and/or extra sections associated with the charter. Just the live flights themselves.
Also, doesn't necessarily have "spare a/c" sitting around but there's enough time built into the schedule to allow for operational spares. Planes break all the time and it's this excess time that allows for a/c swaps. It was probably a matter of altering how they route certain a/c to pull one out of the schedule. Some route pairings aren't daily so it isn't unheard of for an a/c to sit for up to 48 hours.
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It's been done before with Iron Maiden and with a hell of a lot more class.
Next.
Please explain how Iron Maiden was "class" and Rihanna is not?
This shall be interesting..
I know, right!? Iron Maiden on a "666" (sign of Satan) tour is supposed to be "classy"??? No offense to IM fans, they do produce some great tunes, BUT... saying that a "666" tour is classier than a Pop star... is not "classy" .
She's popular for a reason, she entertains well...as some people have said: there are artists and there are performers...either way society pays their income!
starrymarkb From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2011, 91 posts, RR: 0 Reply 67, posted (6 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2749 times:
Quoting 135mech (Reply 62): I know, right!? Iron Maiden on a "666" (sign of Satan) tour is supposed to be "classy"??? No offense to IM fans, they do produce some great tunes, BUT... saying that a "666" tour is classier than a Pop star... is not "classy" .
Classy is probably not the right word, but certainly the Iron Maiden flights are a lot more business like then party or bling. Most of the Maiden config 757 is Cargo for their gear. In the cabin there were a few recline business class for the band and the rest was economy for the crew (and a handful of media/fans where seats were spare) - there were no dividers between band, crew and fans
The other thing is Iron Maiden worked out it was cheaper for them to charter the 757 and put everything on one aircraft then to have band/crew/gear flying scheduled (and probably separably) it also meant they could fit in more shows into a smaller period as everything was travelling together.
Oh and the tours were named "Somewhere Back in Time & Space" and "The Final Frontier" - AEU666 was the ATC callsign. Fan charters (for European Tours) with Bruce at the controls tend to be sold as "BruceAir" rather then Flight 666
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