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Winglets On Delta Shuttle 738  
User currently offlineCrash Landing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1822 times:

When did Delta Shuttle start putting winglets on their 737-832 planes?

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User currently offlineN202PA From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1562 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1760 times:

Have they? I live near DCA--was there just about a month ago during prime Shuttle hours--and I didn't see a single one with winglets. Has this changed?

User currently offlineRJ_Delta From Chile, joined Oct 2000, 1945 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1756 times:

Hi:

For now we still continue to see the Delta's 737-800 in the "classic type". But I think maybe in the near future Delta will choose with the Boeing 737-800 with winglets.

RJ_Delta.


User currently offlineCeilidh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1737 times:

Wind up alert!! Wind up alert!!  Wow!  Yeah sure Note who the originator of this thread is - Crash Landing, who seems to think that non-certified, domestic configured B767-400s change their registrations at will to those of 772s...

He'll be saying that he's flown on Shuttle aircraft with winglets in a moment...


User currently offlineCrash Landing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1723 times:

I do not fly on the Delta shuttle with winglets. But I was reading http://www.delta.com webpage and I saw a picture of the 737-832 with winglets, so I wanted to know. How do you know there is no such plane Ceilidh? Do you work for Delta? If no, then be quiet.

User currently offlineDelta fly boy From Japan, joined Oct 2000, 242 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1697 times:

I work for Delta, at LGA, and there are no current plans for winglets on the 738.. nor any other a/c we service.

User currently offlineCrash Landing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1690 times:

Delta fly boy - Do you not have winglets on the 767-432ER? Also, if there is no winglets on the 737-832, why is there picture at http://www.delta.com website?

User currently offlineNavion From United States of America, joined May 1999, 1015 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1693 times:

I have never seen a Delta Shuttle 738 with winglets at LGA or Boston, and I have never seen a picture on Airliners.net, Airways, Airliners, Airliner World, World Airline Fleets, Flying, Aviation Week & Space Technology, or Flight International of a Delta 738 with winglets. My question is, with no hint of a Delta 738 with winglets, and no scuttlebut about winglets on a Delta 738, where did this come from? My final question is, with such short stage lengths (which contraindicate winglets whose fuel saving performance is maximized over longer routes) on Shuttle flights and at over $250,000 U.S. per set, why in the hell would Delta ever put them on it's shuttle aircraft? Think about it, the winglets would show up on the mainline fleet FIRST whose stage lenghts are greater, and we have no indication of winglets on any DL738. I think you have done NO homework on this one Crash Landing. By the way, why would you have such a negative name with regard to flying? Don't you know that any negative comments about flying diminish the whole industry?

User currently offlineCrash Landing From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1674 times:

There is picture of 737-832 with winglets on http://www.delta.com website, so why do you not go look at that. Otherwise, be quiet.

The picture is below from http://www.delta.com/images/aircraft/737800sh_dim.gif



User currently offlineB767-400er From Hong Kong, joined Apr 2000, 290 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1667 times:

Seems like Delta took the drawings off of Boeing's website:

http://www.delta.com/travel/maps_guides/aircraft/b-737-800/index.jsp

However, the 767-400er don't have winglets, the correct term for the extensions are "raked wintips".

Tony,
B767-400er


User currently offlineCV640 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 952 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1655 times:

Winglets help in long range cruise phase of flight. They are of little use on the short range flight where the extra weight and maintenance would not be worth it. On an hour flight from LGA to BOS or DCA they wouldn't help at all. Look at the domestic 747-400 in Japan, none have winglets.

User currently offlineGrowly150 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1646 times:

Crash Landing- If you keep telling people to be quiet, noone is gonna be able to answer the question you origionally asked. Thats all theyre trying to do. If they tell u that Delta 738s don't have winglets, then accept that.
BTW, 764s have "raked wing tips", thay are not winglets persay.


User currently offlineDazed767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 5498 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1618 times:

They DON'T have winglets, I can promise you that. It does look like they used that image from Boeing.com. A normal person would not know the difference anyways.

User currently offlineRen41 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1574 times:

Crash Landing has no profile so I guess he got deleted!

Ren41®


User currently offlineRedAirForce From Ukraine, joined Aug 1999, 197 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1563 times:

Too bad, i wanted to hear about his flight to London on the Delta Shuttle (after they repainted it of course)....

User currently offlineDelta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1543 times:

Winglets help in long range cruise phase of flight. They are of little use on the short range flight where the extra weight and maintenance would not be worth it. On an hour flight from LGA to BOS or DCA they wouldn't help at all. Look at the domestic 747-400 in Japan, none have winglets.

Well, the winglets on the CRJ seem at odds with the above statement.

Cheers,
Pete


User currently offlineGrowly150 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1537 times:

i think the loss of crash landing is my fault

User currently offlineMlsrar From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1531 times:

In addition to the cruise-speed benefits of the winglets, they also offer improved climb and takeoff performance...thus ATA's selection of them for use at MDW. The smaller noise footprint is a great benefit of the t/o performance increase and would be a positive for DCA, LGA, and BOS



I mean, for the right price I’ll fight a lion. - Mike Tyson
User currently offlineH. Simpson From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 949 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1506 times:

I don't think Delta would spend moneys on working with winglets on DLS 738s, because DLS aer only fly on three short routes: LGA-BOS, BOS-DCA and DCA-BOS. It's not worth to spend money on this...however, the remaining regular Delta 737-800s might have a chances on getting winglets. Since they fly anywhere in the US.

What do you think?
Mike


User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 2007 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (13 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1490 times:

A lot of airlines and airports seem to take their drawings straight fromt the aircraft manufactures, I bet thats what happened here. Its to bad he didnt accept it as a possible answer and not continue to fight.

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