N62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4954 posts, RR: 8 Posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5581 times:
On the AA 77E, there's a private crew rest compartment in the middle of the cabin at the end of the first coach cabin. I presume this is for the flight attendants only - the pilots get seat 1A, as I don't think AA has the optional "crew rest upstairs" on their 77E's.
The question is, where is the crew rest going to be on the new 77W planes?
LONGisland89 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 761 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5612 times:
As far as I know, all AA's 77Es have a crew rest compartment immediately behind the cockpit on the port side for the pilots. You are correct, AA 77Es do not have the "crown" crew rest areas. Their B77Ws will.
AA767400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 2417 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5611 times:
Yes - the 77W will have forward overhead bunks just aft or 1L/R for Pilots, and a larger one overhead between doors 4-5 for FAs.
The 77E has the main cabin crew bunk room at doors 3 L/R, and a smaller one at 1L for Pilots. The pilots get both a crew bunk, and a first class seat. I highly doubt that when the 77E receives they new configuration, they'll add in overhead bunks. We shall see. Hopefully they'll get this modification done soon, but I'm not holding my breath. Truth be told - the 763 is in dire need of a reconfiguration. Much more than any other type in the fleet.
I'm an AA FA who was qualified on the 77W last month, and there is indeed a pilot crew rest module above the first class cabin, with 2 rest seats and 2 bunks. Pilots will not be entitled to a first class seat in the cabin on the 77W, as we only have 8 seats in first. The FA bunks are above the last zone of coach, there are 8 of them, with no rest seats.
aacun From Mexico, joined Jan 2004, 592 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 5603 times:
The pilots are getting their own module on the 77W, that is correct. Also on the 772 they have started giving up their seat only if its for a revenue full fare FC pax. No upg or nonrev if I got it correct from the manager in Bs Aires. But they still have their bunks available.
PresRDC From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 669 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 5596 times:
Quoting 777STL (Reply 11): Don't the pilots get two rest seats in F on T7 flights over a certain period of time? I could have sworn I flew F on DFW-NRT a few years ago and the pilots had both 1A and 2A.
CoachClass From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 463 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5582 times:
Do the crew rest areas have their own toilets? Years ago, it appeared to me that the BA B747-400's had their crew rest areas at the very back of the cabin thru locked doors and I thought I heard toilets flushing back there as well.
: Why does AA need crew rest for their 77W? Are they deploying them on ULH? LHR isn't ULH. Does any crew members get lucky in the rest areas?
: One way or another, everything has to be paid for.
: Generally, flights over eight hours carry one extra pilot, and flights over twelve hours carry two extra pilots. Not sure if that strict of a mandate
: The tech crew toilets on a B744 are located in the cockpit... EK413
: As soon as you restrict the crew rest facilities, you restrict what the aircraft can do. They may not need them now, but in the future they may. And
: Yes, but my point was that not every 77W comes with a crown crew rest. That seems like a strange question. Do you expect FA's to sit in jumpseats dur
: This makes the most sense on this thread, thank you. On all UA trans-atlantic flights I do on their 757 they do. Or else if the company is gracious e
: And the same with us at BA on the 767....however flights like DFW-NRT are far too long for that. I have yet to meet anyone who can get adequate rest
: So you're saying that because FA's don't have a crew rest on a six hour flight to Europe, that 10+ hour flights to China, Japan, and Australia should
: The vast majority of 757 flights in question, though, are under 8.5 hours. Therefore the crew aren't entitled to a "break". If they choose to sit in
: About half the BA744 have a lav in their door 5 overhead crewrest. (I designed the plumbing)
: Crew rest seats are essential. Jumpseats aren't called "ironing boards" for no reason at all. About eight years ago I had the "privilege" of riding a