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Turkish Airlines Now Serves The Most Countries  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25403 posts, RR: 49
Posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3366 times:

According to the Official Airline Guide, Turkish Airlines has secured the industries top spot in terms of the number of countries it operates to.

The airline flies to 205 destinations in 90 different countries around the globe, more than any other airline in the world.


Story:
Turkish Airlines Becomes #1 in the World, Flying to the Most Countries Worldwide
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/turkis...nes-becomes-1-world-163200163.html

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User currently offlineairportugal310 From Tokelau, joined Apr 2004, 3641 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 3384 times:

That's a heck of a distinction...considering they do it without having the largest fleet in the world, right?

Rock on  



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User currently offlineCXfirst From Norway, joined Jan 2007, 3068 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3383 times:

I'm just waiting for Australia (particularly PER), and then I will be happy!

-CXfirst



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User currently offlineemrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 940 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 3386 times:

New routes and countries are on the way  

User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3385 times:

WOW
  
Thanks for the info!!!!


User currently offlineraffik From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2006, 1716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3385 times:

That's great news! Do you think they will become the new Dubai? The mass of orders and new routes is certainly a sign that Turkey's economy is on the up?!


Happy -go- lucky kinda guy!
User currently offlineTobias2702 From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 721 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3387 times:

"I would like to challenge this claim. According to Wikipedia, TK serves destinations in 95 countries (including disputed Kosovo and Northern Cyprus), but LH offers flights to 116 souvereign states."

Sorry, I have been to quick, the list included discontinued destinations. Let me recalculate before I make another claim.

[Edited 2012-11-15 04:13:22]


PA, AF, UK, BA, AB, DL, LH, FR, BD, A3, EZY, DY //// A319/320/346, B733/735/73G/738/744/763, AT4, 146, CR2, DH4
User currently offlineFlyingsottsman From Australia, joined Oct 2010, 548 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3389 times:

I would have thought EK would be ahead of TK for countrys served.

User currently offlineQuokkas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3390 times:

Quoting Flyingsottsman (Reply 7):
I would have thought EK would be ahead of TK for countrys served.

No oddly enough. Despite the appearance of bowling the world over, Emirates offer flights to 127 destinations in 74 countries, with four more destinations to be commenced in the next few months. That will add two countries to their list as two destinations are in countries already served.


User currently offlineTobias2702 From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 721 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3392 times:

Quoting Tobias2702 (Reply 6):
"I would like to challenge this claim. According to Wikipedia, TK serves destinations in 95 countries (including disputed Kosovo and Northern Cyprus), but LH offers flights to 116 souvereign states."

Sorry, I have been to quick, the list included discontinued destinations. Let me recalculate before I make another claim.

Ok, so here it goes:

TK serves 93 states (incl. Kosovo and Northern Cyprus)
"pure LH" (includes Regionals, but not OS, LX) serves 84 countries.

edit: I'd call it a tie between LH and TK. If you take OS and LX into account, it brings another 8 destinations, so the new total is 92. Most people would agree that Northern Cyprus is not a souvereign state, so it is indeed a draw.

But still, the TK network is impressive.

[Edited 2012-11-15 04:49:03]


PA, AF, UK, BA, AB, DL, LH, FR, BD, A3, EZY, DY //// A319/320/346, B733/735/73G/738/744/763, AT4, 146, CR2, DH4
User currently offlineFlyingsottsman From Australia, joined Oct 2010, 548 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3384 times:

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 8):
No oddly enough. Despite the appearance of bowling the world over, Emirates offer flights to 127 destinations in 74 countries, with four more destinations to be commenced in the next few months. That will add two countries to their list as two destinations are in countries already served.

Ok gee I didnt know that. Seems to me that every airport you go in the world you see a EK tail. I wounder if TK will come down to Australia? I thought I may have read on here a year or two ago that TK was looking at SYD I wounder if they are still playing with that idea and could they come down here to MEL, big Turkish populations in bosth Sydney and Melbourne.


User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3384 times:

Quoting Flyingsottsman (Reply 7):
I would have thought EK would be ahead of TK for countrys served.

Despite its size in ASKs - thanks mainly to an all widebody fleet and almost entirely medium to long haul operation - EK is not as big as some European or US airlines in many aspects. That includes fleet size, no of destinations, no of countries, no of daily flights.

Anyway, I would rather see a better coverage of some larger countries (China, India, Brazil, USA, Canada) than more countries. Thankfully that is on the way - with announcements for USA & Canada and plans for India and China.


User currently offlineBen175 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 693 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3383 times:

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
I'm just waiting for Australia (particularly PER), and then I will be happy!

IST-PER-SYD/MEL (we can dream!)


User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3384 times:

Quoting Ben175 (Reply 12):
IST-PER-SYD/MEL (we can dream!)

That routing would get the distinction of the being the first to be closed in over a decade. Seriously, not enough pax to take a plane to Australia from Turkey. And connecting pax would rather fly QF/EK/EY/TG/SQ/CX...


User currently offlineTK1244 From Netherlands, joined May 2007, 330 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3386 times:

Quoting Tobias2702 (Reply 9):
I'd call it a tie between LH and TK.

between LH and TK? No tie!! It's only a tie when you compare LH group as whole and TK. But doing it all alone is a better achievement than doing the same with multiple airlines  



"The future is in the skies. For any nation that cannot defend its skies will never be confident of its future." Atatürk
User currently offlineTobias2702 From Germany, joined Sep 2008, 721 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 3384 times:

Quoting TK1244 (Reply 14):
between LH and TK? No tie!! It's only a tie when you compare LH group as whole and TK. But doing it all alone is a better achievement than doing the same with multiple airlines

Well, my argument here is that the reason why LH does not serve Macedonia, Montenegro, Slovakia or Armenia is because OS does. These destinations fit into the VIE hub, which -- being honest -- is also an LH hub.

But anyway, as stated above: TK offers an impressive network.



PA, AF, UK, BA, AB, DL, LH, FR, BD, A3, EZY, DY //// A319/320/346, B733/735/73G/738/744/763, AT4, 146, CR2, DH4
User currently offline777way From Pakistan, joined Dec 2005, 5716 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 3387 times:

No tie, only a single airline serving all destinations on its on is what counts here, however I wonder about TK expansion but good luck to them, I guess they know what they are doing.

User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17510 posts, RR: 45
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 3384 times:

Congrats I guess, although it's pretty clear TK was building its network to hit this number, rather than build it rationally.

Quoting 777way (Reply 16):
I guess they know what they are doing.

They're just adding anything and everything. NIMIST? Please. NKCIST? Why not.

Quoting Tobias2702 (Reply 15):
TK offers an impressive network.

Without question--far better than any of the Middle East three. However I'm worried they're also becoming an impressive mess as well.



E pur si muove -Galileo
User currently onlineASA From Bangladesh, joined Dec 2010, 732 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3383 times:

Quoting Flyingsottsman (Reply 10):
Seems to me that every airport you go in the world you see a EK tail.

I think that's because EK focuses on the big hubs and trunk routes. And that's where most of us fly through or see pictures in aviation articles etc. In that sense, EK widebodies are indeed everywhere.

But if you go out of the way and to the regional and secondary cities, there will be an entirely different picture. For example, take Central Asia. You could hardly find an EK or QR destination there ... but the region is spectacularly covered by TK. Similarly, for eastern Europe or the Balkans ... EK serves only a few. Whereas, QR and TK flies their narrow bodies to almost every capital city in that region.

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 17):
Congrats I guess, although it's pretty clear TK was building its network to hit this number, rather than build it rationally.

It seems so ... you are right   But some of them are indeed great destinations as Africa is opening up more and more. TK's Africa map is already impressive and will be hard to match by EK ... QR is following a similar model in Eastern Africa, but not sure how much they can cover in the western part with their narrow bodies.

Quoting Tobias2702 (Reply 9):
edit: I'd call it a tie between LH and TK. If you take OS and LX into account, it brings another 8 destinations, so the new total is 92. Most people would agree that Northern Cyprus is not a souvereign state, so it is indeed a draw.

Maybe that's why Merkel and Erdogan decided to call it a draw and suggest "joint management" ... cause they are in a stalemate  

  


User currently offlineYakamoz From Switzerland, joined Nov 2012, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3382 times:

I study the winter flightplan of THY.

I've counted 86 countries and 193 cities.
There are also 13 cities in US which are flown with codeshare.
Also, there are inactive 1 country and 8 cities.

So totally, there are 87 countries and 214 cities served.

Is that right?

Thanks

Omer


User currently offlinedanielkandi From Denmark, joined Sep 2012, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3375 times:

Funny how popular they make themselves out to be. But a s**teload of really nasty replies are on their fb everyday. More so than KLM's and other popular FB airlines... I just wonder, why they deliver such a fair product inflight, but seem to leave the administrative side to such an amateur-like level.

Listen to their telephone centre in Istanbul. The waitinglines are horrible, the english is with heavy accent (instead of having it done in a studio by pro's, seems hobo-like for such a huge airlines) and it takes you AGES to actually get to some personell unless u wish to buy a flight and ONLY that... Luckily for me, i've been fortunate to avoid problems with my flights with them.

Ironically, I just raked in over the 40000+ miles with them, gold status they say. So I wonder what awaits me servicewise. I hope they do improve on the "help"side of things. I cant complain except for a long wait and no reply from them on the phone today. But seems they don't really care about the individuals outside miles&smiles on their FB. They just post a turkish phonenumber for their helpline and tell you to call that. On delta, klm, the likes, you get a proper response to even the slightest request, and sometimes to the big and hard ones too... Must say i've enjoyed their service inflight though! Plus the amazing food!



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User currently offlineby738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3374 times:

Why do I get the feeling that this might come back to haunt them an may all end in tears ?

User currently offlineQuokkas From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3374 times:

Quoting ASA (Reply 18):
take Central Asia. You could hardly find an EK or QR destination there ... but the region is spectacularly covered by TK. Similarly, for eastern Europe or the Balkans .

I always wondered about that. Why did Dubai decide on setting up flydubai, which has concentrated on those areas, rather than just send EK? While there is some overlap in the Middle East and South Asia, flydubai serve 22 destinations in 10 countries that EK don't.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3376 times:

Quoting CXfirst (Reply 2):
I'm just waiting for Australia (particularly PER), and then I will be happy!

I read in another thread that Australia is no longer on TKs cards due to the QF/EK tie up... Apparently TK is working on establishing their presence in Australia utilizing Star* member TG...

EK413



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User currently offlinelewis From Greece, joined Jul 1999, 3636 posts, RR: 5
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 3376 times:

Quoting Quokkas (Reply 22):
Quoting ASA (Reply 18):
take Central Asia. You could hardly find an EK or QR destination there ... but the region is spectacularly covered by TK. Similarly, for eastern Europe or the Balkans .

I always wondered about that. Why did Dubai decide on setting up flydubai, which has concentrated on those areas, rather than just send EK? While there is some overlap in the Middle East and South Asia, flydubai serve 22 destinations in 10 countries that EK don't.
TK has very good coverage in the area as a lot of those Central Asian countries have historical and cultural links to Turkey - or the other way around. I doubt the likes of EK or QR would have been as successful in the region, apart from a couple of destinations here and there. The location of the IST hub is also ideal for attracting passengers from the Balkans (where local air service is regional at best) and E Europe.

[Edited 2012-11-15 18:40:21]

25 JOYA380B747 : Or for that matter AI's soon to come LHR/CDG/FRA-DEL-MEL/SYD But why not? TK could always do a Kangaroo routing because who wouldn't like to hop over
26 JU068 : Actually you a How is eastern Europe not covered? Belgrade: Qatar (Nov. 20), flydubai Zagreb: Qatar Skopje: flydubai Athens: Emirates, Qatar, Etihad S
27 LAXintl : While I see the TK management enjoying making broad marketing statements, I don't believe the network folks behind the scenes are dumb nor irrational
28 777way : Why did you leave out former USSR east European countries? and Greece is Southern Europe not Eastern or have the economic crisis changed their geogra
29 leftyboarder : Well, add Tirana, Minsk, Sarajevo, Pristina, Chisinau, Podgorica, Thessaloniki (since you've included Athens), Dnipropetrovsk, Donetsk, Kiev, Lviv, O
30 777way : ^ in that case Flydubai do three cities in Ukraine too and Etihad do Minsk as well, not that it makes any difference.
31 Yakamoz : South America: 1 country / 1 destination North America: 2 countries / 5 destinations Africa: 17 countries / 26 destinations (inkl. Mombasa/Kilimanjaro
32 Tupolev160 : Besides flyDubai, Air Arabia flies to 4 cities in Ukraine as well, which is quite impressive. TK has tried to expand agressively into every major city
33 Post contains links Tobias2702 : Trusting Wikipedia (which in terms of airlines/destinations tends to be quite up-to-date), the list looks like this (source: http://en.wikipedia.org/
34 MaverickM11 : The network folks are probably great; it's the politics and egos directing the network folks that are overrotating the airline
35 leftyboarder : Maldives, Niger and Burkina Faso will be joining that in less than a month. Lithuania, Estonia, Eritrea, Cameroon, Gabon, Angola, Luxembourg, Argenti
36 Yakamoz : Hello Tobias Thanks for the list and the great link. I've found my failure in my list. I put Hong Kong as a city of China, not an own country. Sorry..
37 SepulTALLICA : Anyone from TK have an idea when their previously announced flights to Gabon, Guinea, Cameroon, Zambia are meant to start, if at all?
38 Viscount724 : Hong Kong is a "Special Administrative Region" of China, not a separate country. Macau has the same status.
39 Steelyman : I believe Cameroon is due to start with Duala/Younde operations in short time, I'm not sure if already released or not, I'll check next week
40 RyanairGuru : While HKSAR and Macau SAR do not have independent legal personalities, and are therefore not a state for the purposes of international law, they are
41 Post contains links TK1244 : According to Hamdi Topçu: Turkish Airlines is... 1th in terms of countries flown 5th in terms of cities flown Source: Airporthaber.com
42 JU068 : Yes but I was merely pointing out that Middle Eastern carriers are present in the region, as some people claimed otherwise. Please go and read what A
43 Post contains images ASA : I understand your point. I actually didn't say middle eastern carriers ... I meant EK specifically. I think i was replying to another poster's (Flyin
44 JU068 : Haha yes! But if you think about it, this co-operation between flydubai and Emirates is way wiser than if Emirates started flying their own narrow-bo
45 Argentina : And now Argentina has joined the list From airlineroute.net Turkish Airlines to Start Buenos Aires Operation from Dec 2012 Update at 0840GMT 19NOV12 T
46 Yakamoz : To summarise the next starts: 24.11.2012 Istanbul - Male 04.12.2012 Istanbul - Kilimanjaro - Mombasa 11.12.2012 Istanbul - Sao Paulo - BUENOS AIRES 15
47 Post contains images leftyboarder : We can expect more short haul additions after March 2013 with summer timetable - Constanta, Krakow, Malta, Marseille, Asmara, Luxembourg, Tallinn, Vi
48 777way : Why dont TK serve secondary cities in Central Asia Khujand, Bukhara, Samarkand, Osh, Aktau, Atyrau, Aktobe are a few that see international carriers.
49 Post contains images MaverickM11 : That's next week What a dreadful schedule
50 Turkish350XWB : It is very well suited for fitting this route to Far-East and Middle East schedule.
51 MaverickM11 : Who in their right mind would take a 0500 departure to the Far East when they could take CA at 1900, arriving in PEK at 0600, or any of the EU carrie
52 Turkish350XWB : How did you calculate this ?
53 Post contains images migair54 : 92, i don´t know if i make a mistake but basically that´s all the countries i have seen in the different webs.
54 MaverickM11 : I should have said "most'; it's not an exact number--a late night IST departure would allow most of the TK network to connect to ISTGRU, plus be much
55 Steelyman : Japan and Kazakhstan missing, for rest I believe all of them are OK, thanks for sharing
56 LAXintl : I think you are missing the point. Early AM departure is on purpose - its designed for connections quite well. Today GRU already departs at 0930. And
57 Turkish350XWB : The reason why i asked for the number is that i believe you have not taken into account direction of connection. No one will fly from CDG to GRU via
58 LAXintl : For reference the top existing network transfer markets on the GRU flight today are: 1. BEY 2. ATH 3. TLV 4. DEL 5. PVG 6. AMM 7. ICN 8. HKG 9. CAI 10
59 Turkish350XWB : How do you know that ?
60 MaverickM11 : The 0920 is not really the concern, although it's still suboptimal for the local market; it's the 0500 daylight Eastbound. Where on earth does that a
61 Post contains images LAXintl : I know lots of things But its in essence MIDT QSI coupon data.
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