Carls From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 522 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 4564 times:
I think these two A345 are for Conviasa. I was in Venezuela three month ago and Chavez was on TV stating that they were going to buy some Airbus, he mentioned the A340-500 and also the president of the airline mentioned few A330.
Polot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 1851 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (1 year 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4564 times:
Quoting Carls (Reply 14): I think these two A345 are for Conviasa. I was in Venezuela three month ago and Chavez was on TV stating that they were going to buy some Airbus, he mentioned the A340-500 and also the president of the airline mentioned few A330.
I believe they were looking at buying Ethiad's (The A340-500s that is), but the deal might have since fallen through (that happens a lot with the A345...).
r2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2441 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (1 year 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4563 times:
Interesting. I hope they find a nice "home" for them. A345's can still be useful as VIP aircraft or for very niche airlines.
I assume these are the two remaining ex-IT frames, and nothing to do with the ones SQ will be returning?
In that case, they should be MSN886 & MSN902.
IIRC, 5 IT frames were built, 2 went to Arik, 1 to Tunisia (or was it Algeria?), and these would be the remaining two.
Any additions or corrections are welcome, the history of the last handful of A345's built is extremely confusing
zeke From Hong Kong, joined Dec 2006, 8238 posts, RR: 74 Reply 20, posted (1 year 2 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4565 times:
Quoting r2rho (Reply 17): Interesting. I hope they find a nice "home" for them.
I would not be surprised to see more and more A340s going to African operators, SonAir in Angola I seem to recall had 2 A340-500s on order at some stage. The A340-500 would be a useful aircraft for them to open up services to China where a lot of the oil industry financing is coming from in the region.
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CARST From Germany, joined Jul 2006, 749 posts, RR: 1 Reply 23, posted (1 year 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 4561 times:
Wouldn't SA be interested, the aircraft would fit in well with their other A340s and they have some rather long routes with without ETOPS alternative airports to South America and Australia. I think the A345 can fly these routes at MTOW, thus turning the same profit as a comparable two-engined aircraft which might be more profitable overall, but takes a payload-hit on these long sectors. The A345 remains a niche aircraft, but there is a market for very few airlines which already operate other types of the A340 family.
I'd bet on Hawaiian. Considering they're doing well in MNL and that 5J has just been approved to fly to GUM, HNL, SFO and LAX on wet-leases. Airbus probably gave AJW and in turn them a very good deal (given their new A330s) which could offset the less than stellar economics, and allow them to fly MNL-US West Coast nonstop year-round and compete profitably.
The others don't need the range, have the range but not the market, or otherwise already have the service to their home markets.
TC957 From UK - England, joined May 2012, 527 posts, RR: 0 Reply 32, posted (1 year 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4913 times:
Intriguing to know where J2 will operate the A345's to. Perhaps they have new non-stops to the US on their mind, like IAH for the oil & gas business. I think the 345 in J2's blue & white colours will look quite pretty birds.