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CO 1713 25 Years Ago 11/15  
User currently offlinemtnwest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

Hello,
Today marks the 25th anniversary of Continental flight 1713's accident at Stapleton Airport in Denver.
As a resident of Boise then, it had a very big affect on many folks.

I had a friend in town from Vancouver,BC (who worked for Canadian Airlines) and as we were cruising around SW Idaho, the news was on the radio ( the usual Am radio news every hour type) and right at the end of the newscast, the announcer mentioned "we have a report of a plane wreck in Denver", and that was it, until later when the next hour came around.
Anyway, it certainly doesn't seem like 25 years!


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User currently offlineWesternDC1010 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 327 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2360 times:

Quoting mtnwest1979 (Thread starter):
Today marks the 25th anniversary of Continental flight 1713's accident at Stapleton Airport in Denver.

My family was traveling to Kansas the day after this happened to attend my great-grandmother's funeral. I was traveling on AA through DFW and my mother, aunt and uncle through DEN on CO. I was especially nervous after hearing the news the night this happened, more so for my family traveling on CO though DEN in the snowstorm. They all made it safely to ICT, but my mom said that they could see the accident site, noting that the tail section was inverted when they departed DEN.

According to the FAA report, NTSB Number AAR-88/09 and NTIS Number PB88-910411:

"The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable cause of this accident was the captain's failure to have the airplane deiced a second time after a delay before takeoff that led to upper wing surface contamination and a loss of control during rapid takeoff rotation by the first officer. Contributing to the accident were the absence of regulatory or management controls governing operations by newly qualified flight crew members and the confusion that existed between the flightcrew members and air traffic controllers that led to the delay in departure."

I can't believe that was 25 years ago and I'm glad that with the UA/CO merger that United has decided to keep the flight number 1713 retired.

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User currently offlinemtnwest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2360 times:

Here is more about it:
http://www.idahostatesman.com/2012/1...m-going-to.html#storylink=misearch



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User currently offlinethegoldenargosy From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 380 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2362 times:

I read an interview with one of the surviving FA's, Kelly Englehart, and she asked the CA that he perform the take off. She doubted the FO's abilities in the wintery weather. The FO performed the fatal take off.

Does anyone know why there were 3 FA's on a DC-9-10?

What became of the accident site after the Stapleton closure?

Is Englehart still flying for the new UA?


User currently onlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2700 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2360 times:

Quoting thegoldenargosy (Reply 3):
Does anyone know why there were 3 FA's on a DC-9-10?

Three flight attendants were very common on DC-9-10's during that time.


User currently offlineABQopsHP From United States of America, joined May 2006, 851 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2360 times:

Quoting thegoldenargosy (Reply 3):

I read an interview with one of the surviving FA's, Kelly Englehart, and she asked the CA that he perform the take off. She doubted the FO's abilities in the wintery weather. The FO performed the fatal take off.

Does anyone know why there were 3 FA's on a DC-9-10?

What became of the accident site after the Stapleton closure?

Is Englehart still flying for the new UA?

F/A Diana Mechling, the lead, was seated in the fwd jumpseat, and was killed on impact. Kelly Englehart and Chris Metts were in the aft jumpseat. Chris who was my partner at the time said the minute the wheels came off the ground he knew something was wrong, and told Kelly. They both yelled for the pax to get their heads down. Paul Vermeulen was a non-rev seated in first class. He Kelly and Chris helped the surviving pax evacuate. Chris and Kelly's section of the aircraft was inverted and he had a hard time getting the aft plug doorway to open. As for your question is Kelly still flying. Last I heard she did not go back to flying. Chris did not go back to flying either and passed away from pneumonia in 1990. After he started to recover from his injuries, any time he wanted to travel, he would take Amtrak from our home in SLC. I lost track of Paul, and have no idea where he is, or if hes still flying. This accident also took a toll on me, and it took me close to 10 years before I got passed the fear of flying. I was fine before then, and I am now, but when it hits you that close to home it changes who you are.

JD CRPXE



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User currently offlinethegoldenargosy From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 380 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days ago) and read 2285 times:

Quoting ABQopsHP (Reply 5):
F/A Diana Mechling, the lead, was seated in the fwd jumpseat, and was killed on impact. Kelly Englehart and Chris Metts were in the aft jumpseat. Chris who was my partner at the time said the minute the wheels came off the ground he knew something was wrong, and told Kelly. They both yelled for the pax to get their heads down. Paul Vermeulen was a non-rev seated in first class. He Kelly and Chris helped the surviving pax evacuate. Chris and Kelly's section of the aircraft was inverted and he had a hard time getting the aft plug doorway to open. As for your question is Kelly still flying. Last I heard she did not go back to flying. Chris did not go back to flying either and passed away from pneumonia in 1990. After he started to recover from his injuries, any time he wanted to travel, he would take Amtrak from our home in SLC. I lost track of Paul, and have no idea where he is, or if hes still flying. This accident also took a toll on me, and it took me close to 10 years before I got passed the fear of flying. I was fine before then, and I am now, but when it hits you that close to home it changes who you are.

JD CRPXE

Thank you for sharing your story. I'm sorry for your loss. I can only imagine how traumatic being that close to a crash would be. Luckily I haven't experienced a crash in my aviation career.


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