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Which Large Airlines Have Either No A Or B Planes?  
User currently offline3rdGen From Bahrain, joined Jul 2011, 236 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1765 times:

Just wondering, which large(ish) airlines have no aircraft from one of the major two manufacturers, Airbus or Boeing?

The only ones that come to mind, and I'm not sure if I'm correct but:

American (Boeing only? No more A300s)
Iberia?

And low cost carriers don't count either, because almost all of them fly a single manufacturer.

[Edited 2012-11-16 10:46:55]

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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11648 posts, RR: 60
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1797 times:

Quoting 3rdGen (Thread starter):
And low cost carriers don't count either, because almost all of them fly a single manufacturer.

That does seem slightly odd, considering it's single manufacturer fleets that you are asking for.

Others which come to mind:

TAP
Aer Lingus
Finnair
El Al
RAM
Icelandair

If you discount those also operating BAe, Bombardier or Embraer aircraft under the main brand, there are many more.


Dan  



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30921 posts, RR: 87
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1785 times:
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American currently doesn't have any Airbus planes, but that will be changing in the years ahead (doubly so if they merge with US Airways).

I don't know if you'd consider them "large", but Alaska Airlines only flies Boeing.

And I believe you would consider Southwest and Ryanair to be large and they're all-Boeing. As is easyjet (all Airbus).

[Edited 2012-11-16 10:32:20]

User currently offline3rdGen From Bahrain, joined Jul 2011, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1782 times:

No, what I am asking for is fleets with either: no boeing aircraft, or no airbus aircraft. i.e. American Airlines, which contains MDs and Boeings (although they have airbus on order). There are very few large airlines that lack either an Airbus or Boeing type.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 2):
And I believe you would consider Southwest and Ryanair to be large and they're all-Boeing. As is easyjet (all Airbus).

Ya its easy with the LCCs, because they usually only fly one type anyway, so its not hard. I was thinking more along the lines of a Legacy carrier with a number of different types for different missions, short/medium/long haul. American is the best example I can think of

[Edited 2012-11-16 10:34:34]

User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 693 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1774 times:

I too was confused by the thread title; thought you were asking for airlines operating neither Airbus nor Boeing (in which case there aren't any, depending on your definition of "large airline"). Only one manufacturer out of the two; now that's a long list. PlymSpotter named quite a few.

User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3070 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1774 times:

Alaska
Southwest
West Jet
ANA (I think they phased out their A321s already)
Ryanair


User currently offline3rdGen From Bahrain, joined Jul 2011, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1772 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 4):
I too was confused by the thread title; thought you were asking for airlines operating neither Airbus nor Boeing

Ya sorry for that, don't really know what else to call this thread.

EDIT: added the "either" in the title, maybe that will help.

[Edited 2012-11-16 10:48:02]

User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1772 times:

isn't JAL all Boeing ? LH is nearly all Airbus

User currently offlinen729pa From UK - England, joined Jan 2011, 408 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1771 times:

Japan Airlines....no Airbuses now
Swiss......no Boeings
Alaska.....no Airbuses
South African Airways.....no Boeings?
Transaero, Kenya Airways, LOT , Ethiopian .....no Airbuses
Cyprus Airways, Air Malta, MEA .....no Boeings

Interesting question....gets the brain going!


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7481 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1771 times:

Quoting n729pa (Reply 8):
Japan Airlines....no Airbuses now

NH is retiring their A320s soon, (or already have) so they'll too become an all-B airline.

JS flies neither Airbus or Boeing

  



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User currently offlineFuling From Australia, joined Apr 2011, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1772 times:

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 1):
Finnair

Has AY already phased out all their Boeing 757?

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 7):
LH is nearly all Airbus

LH still has quite a few B737 and B747-400 to get rid of first. However, LH have just recently started taking delivery of the new B747-8i, so I guess Boeing aircraft will remain in the LH fleet for a while yet.


User currently offlinespottingpete93 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 74 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1777 times:

The largest one i can think of that doesn't operate either Airbus or Boeing is Flybe - they operate Dash 8s and Embraers only and have a fleet of about 70 aircraft

User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11648 posts, RR: 60
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1774 times:

Quoting 3rdGen (Reply 3):
There are very few large airlines that lack either an Airbus or Boeing type.

I'd venture a guess that there are more majors/flag carriers with such a fleet than major LCCs flying just one type.

AeroMexico
TACA
Belavia
LOT
Swiss
Olympic Air/Agean
UTAir (A321 on order)
Gulf Air (788 on order)
Air Mauritius
Yemenia
MEA
Ethiopian (350 on order)
Kenya Airways
Brussels Airlines (737s wfu)
Transaero
Air Malta
Cyprus Airways

For every carrier with a new manufacturer on order, I can think of another which is going to a one manufacturer fleet.


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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11648 posts, RR: 60
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1772 times:

Quoting Fuling (Reply 10):
Has AY already phased out all their Boeing 757?

Good point, was thinking they were operated by Air Finland, but they are no longer around.


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User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3070 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1772 times:

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 7):
LH is nearly all Airbus


LH is the launch customer for the 747-8I, so "nearly" doesn't count.

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 7):
isn't JAL all Boeing ?

Yep, if you count the MD-90s they inherited from JAS as Boeing.

Quoting n729pa (Reply 8):
South African Airways.....no Boeings?

They fly the 737-800.


User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3424 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1771 times:

Widerøe neither A or B only Bombardier

Flybe neither A or B only Embraer & Bombardier



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User currently offlinehorstroad From Germany, joined Apr 2010, 263 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 7):
LH is nearly all Airbus

LH has 221 Airbus and 70 Boeing. that´s 3.1 : 1, I wouldn´t call that 'nearly all airbus'


User currently offlineFuling From Australia, joined Apr 2011, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

Jetstar could be put in if we include LCC, however they have B787 on order.

User currently offlineCaspian27 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 381 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 1772 times:

Probably not what you're thinking of, but regional airlines can be quite large and don't possess either Boeing or Airbus equipment. OO for example has over 320 airframes, all Bombardier or Embraer.


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User currently offlineflyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 1016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

COPA in Panama has a whole lot of Boeing 737NGs, a couple Embraers, but no Airbus aircraft.


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User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8706 posts, RR: 43
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 7):
LH is nearly all Airbus

You must be joking! In addition to the 737s and 747s of LH mainline that have already been pointed out, their wholly owned subsidiaries operate one of the most varied fleets of western airliners that you can find. ATRs, Avros, Boeings, Bombardiers/Canadairs, Embraers, Fokkers, MDs... they have them all.



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User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

Quoting aloges (Reply 20):
You must be joking! In addition to the 737s and 747s of LH mainline that have already been pointed out, their wholly owned subsidiaries operate one of the most varied fleets of western airliners that you can find. ATRs, Avros, Boeings, Bombardiers/Canadairs, Embraers, Fokkers, MDs... they have them all.

Really ... you're counting cargo divisions now ?

LH mainline is ~75% Airbus so calling it "mostly Airbus" isn't too stretching it. LH+OS+LX probably increases the Airbus ratio even further.


User currently offlineflyingalex From Germany, joined Jul 2010, 1016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 21):
LH mainline is ~75% Airbus so calling it "mostly Airbus" isn't too stretching it.

I think the reason people are disagreeing so strongly is that the absolute numbers involved are so large.

On LH mainline, there about 220 Airbus aircraft vs. over 70 Boeing aircraft.

That does make LH a "mostly Airbus" airline, but it makes them irrelevant to this thread because - after all - they operate a sub-fleet of Boeings that is larger than most airlines' total fleet.



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User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8706 posts, RR: 43
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 21):
Really ... you're counting cargo divisions now ?

Since LH Cargo is a wholly owned subsidiary, I counted it - that shouldn't be

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 21):
stretching it

too far for someone who considers a fleet with 25% Boeing aircraft in it to be

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 7):
nearly all Airbus



[Edited 2012-11-16 13:35:54]


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User currently offlinemogandoCI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1770 times:

Quoting flyingalex (Reply 22):
That does make LH a "mostly Airbus" airline, but it makes them irrelevant to this thread because - after all - they operate a sub-fleet of Boeings that is larger than most airlines' total fleet.

Then at what point is "mostly" a suitable descriptor ? 90%? 95%?

UA mainline is "only" 78% Boeing, so I guess you can't call it "mostly Boeing" either.


User currently offlineflyPBA From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 431 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2157 times:

y'all are forgetting SkyWest/ExpressJet ...

User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11648 posts, RR: 60
Reply 26, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2252 times:

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 24):
Then at what point is "mostly" a suitable descriptor ? 90%? 95%?

Technically 50.000000001% and above  



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User currently offlineUALWN From Andorra, joined Jun 2009, 2763 posts, RR: 2
Reply 27, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2356 times:

IB doesn't fly any Boeing. Neither do VY or U2.


AT7/111/146/Avro/CRJ/CR9/EMB/ERJ/E75/F50/100/L15/DC9/D10/M8X/717/727/737/747/757/767/777/AB6/310/319/320/321/330/340/380
User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8706 posts, RR: 43
Reply 28, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2341 times:

Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 24):
Then at what point is "mostly" a suitable descriptor ? 90%? 95%?

"Mostly" is far from the same as "nearly all", your use of which was the reason for my strong disagreement in the first place. I'll happily agree with "mostly".

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 26):
Technically 50.000000001% and above

Interesting, we do have a "smirk" smily.   



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User currently offlineblueflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 3972 posts, RR: 2
Reply 29, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 2318 times:
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By my book, flybe is pretty large, certainly larger than some of the other airlines already mentioned, and it has no aircraft from Airbus and Boeing.

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 12):
Brussels Airlines (737s wfu)

All the 737s are out already?

Quoting aloges (Reply 23):
Since LH Cargo is a wholly owned subsidiary, I counted it

Perhaps, but Lufthansa Cargo has its own AOC, as does Singapore Airlines Cargo, so they probably deserve to be treated distinctly from their passenger brethren, and neither operates Airbus aircraft.



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User currently onlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3761 posts, RR: 12
Reply 30, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2312 times:
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Those who live in France probably remember Air Inter, it used to be a French domestic airline. They flew mostly French built planes (A300, A320, A330, Caravelle and Mercure) except the Fokker 27 and the Vickers Viscount, but the main point is they never flew any US built planes.

Malev has never flown any Airbus model, neither did El Al.



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User currently offlineanrec80 From Canada, joined Jan 2011, 142 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2274 times:

There is also Air Koryo - neither A nor B.

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Reply 32, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2280 times:
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User currently offlineKFlyer From Sri Lanka, joined Mar 2007, 1226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2249 times:

Perhaps why not change the thread title to "Which large airlines have either only A or B planes". I feel that it is still a bit misleading.


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User currently offlinerotating14 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 650 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 2238 times:

What ever happened to the speculation of the widebody order from South African Airways?

User currently onlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3761 posts, RR: 12
Reply 35, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2267 times:
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Quoting blueflyer (Reply 29):
All the 737s are out already?

I think they have two left, one 300 and one 400. They'll be gone early next year. By then SN will be Boeing free.



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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11648 posts, RR: 60
Reply 36, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2085 times:

Quoting blueflyer (Reply 29):
All the 737s are out already?

I was under the impression that they are being used as 'hot spares' but are weeks from leaving altogether.

Quoting anrec80 (Reply 31):
There is also Air Koryo - neither A nor B.

Well they have Antonovs but no Berievs   


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User currently offlineliftsifter From United States of America, joined Feb 2008, 313 posts, RR: 0
Reply 37, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2073 times:

Apart from the Ebrarer regionals, Royal Jordanian operates an entirely Airbus fleet, until the 787 begins arriving.


A300 A310 A319 A320 A321 A332 A333 A342 A343 A346 A380 B738 B744 B763 B772 B77W B787 Q400 E190
User currently offlinemetjetCEO From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 412 posts, RR: 1
Reply 38, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2067 times:

Azul is all ERJ, right

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 39, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2054 times:

Frontier is all Airbus.

Horizon Air has neither A or B.



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User currently offlineJumboJim747 From Australia, joined Oct 2004, 2464 posts, RR: 44
Reply 40, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 1998 times:

Virgin blue doesnt operate airbus


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User currently offlinerjm777ual From UK - England, joined Nov 2011, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1975 times:

Finnair still has their fleet of 757's, and ANA still has A320's, so they're out of the question. South African has some 737's, I believe they are -800's. I don't believe that Gulf Air has any more 777's, so they're all Airbus, except for their Embraer jets. Lastly, airlines like Adria and Aegean airlines are based on an all A320 fleet.


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User currently offlineMattH From Canada, joined Mar 2008, 33 posts, RR: 0
Reply 42, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1952 times:

Westjet in Canada has a fleet of Boeing 737NGs.

As an aside, Jazz Air has a fairly large (relative to other CDN airlines) fleet of Bombardier aircraft. No Boeing or Airbus.



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User currently onlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3761 posts, RR: 12
Reply 43, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1950 times:
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Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 1):
American currently doesn't have any Airbus planes, but that will be changing in the years ahead

This will change already in one year from now, even if AA doesn't merge with US or B6. The first A319 or A321 is expected end of 2013. American will have remained Airbus free only for four years, from 2009 to 2013.

Jet Blue flies the A320 and the ERJ (170 or 190 not sure which, I know it's one of the two) but no Boeing.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 39):
Horizon Air has neither A or B.

That's a regional subsidiary of Alaska.
Because if I follow your reasoning, then one could say American Eagle has neither A or B.

TWA has never flown any Airbus, however they did consider seriously the A330 for long hauls and the A318 for short hauls.

Delta wouldn't be flying any Airbus plane if they didn't merger with Northwest. The only Airbus they ever flew prior to the merger was the A310.



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User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4220 posts, RR: 1
Reply 44, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1941 times:

Quoting n729pa (Reply 8):
South African Airways.....no Boeings?

I thought that they had B737's.



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User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3070 posts, RR: 7
Reply 45, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1938 times:

Quoting American 767 (Reply 43):
TWA has never flown any Airbus, however they did consider seriously the A330 for long hauls and the A318 for short hauls.

Didn't they have them on order?

Quoting brilondon (Reply 44):
Quoting n729pa (Reply 8):
South African Airways.....no Boeings?

I thought that they had B737's.

Yes, that's what I said in an earlier post - 737-800s.

Quoting American 767 (Reply 30):
Those who live in France probably remember Air Inter, it used to be a French domestic airline. They flew mostly French built planes (A300, A320, A330, Caravelle and Mercure) except the Fokker 27 and the Vickers Viscount, but the main point is they never flew any US built planes.

I think they merged with AF. Air Inter did look seriously at the 737-500, but went with Airbus instead. I remember when they were bidding for a fleet renewal and did come to Boeing.


User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3070 posts, RR: 7
Reply 46, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

Quoting American 767 (Reply 43):
TWA has never flown any Airbus, however they did consider seriously the A330 for long hauls and the A318 for short hauls.

Didn't they have them on order? I think it was more than just considering.

Quoting brilondon (Reply 44):
Quoting n729pa (Reply 8):
South African Airways.....no Boeings?

I thought that they had B737's.

Yes, that's what I said in an earlier post - 737-800s.

Quoting American 767 (Reply 30):
Those who live in France probably remember Air Inter, it used to be a French domestic airline. They flew mostly French built planes (A300, A320, A330, Caravelle and Mercure) except the Fokker 27 and the Vickers Viscount, but the main point is they never flew any US built planes.

I think they merged with AF. Air Inter did look seriously at the 737-500, but went with Airbus instead. I remember when they were bidding for a fleet renewal and did come to Boeing.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25205 posts, RR: 22
Reply 47, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1938 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 2):
As is easyjet (all Airbus).

And originally all Boeing.

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 46):
Quoting American 767 (Reply 43):
TWA has never flown any Airbus, however they did consider seriously the A330 for long hauls and the A318 for short hauls.

Didn't they have them on order? I think it was more than just considering.

TWA ordered 20 A330s (with options on 20 more) in 1989, 3 years before the A330 had even flown.
http://www.nytimes.com/1989/03/28/bu...a-order-to-airbus-is-expected.html

In 1998 they ordered 50 A318s and 25 others from the A320 family (plus 50 717s).
http://articles.baltimoresun.com/199...iness/1998344136_1_a318-boeing-twa


User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2882 posts, RR: 7
Reply 48, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1929 times:

Quoting American 767 (Reply 43):
Jet Blue flies the A320 and the ERJ (170 or 190 not sure which, I know it's one of the two) but no Boeing.

...and soon the A321 too. B6 flies the E190, but not the E170. They were actually the launch customer for the E190.  



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User currently offlinerjm777ual From UK - England, joined Nov 2011, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 49, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1910 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 48):
...and soon the A321 too

Neo!



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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2882 posts, RR: 7
Reply 50, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1912 times:

Quoting rjm777ual (Reply 49):
Neo!

The A321's are not going to be NEOs, in fact they are going to start arriving in 2013. The NEOs (as of right now) are A320's and those aren't due to start rolling in until like 2016 I think.



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User currently offlinevhqpa From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 1456 posts, RR: 1
Reply 51, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1909 times:

Quoting JumboJim747 (Reply 40):
Virgin blue doesnt operate airbus

Well Virgin Blue doesn't exist in that form anymore. However Virgin Australia operates the following (not counting Skywest's ATR72 operation)

- 18 Embraer 190
- 4 Boeing 737-700
- 68 Boeing 737-800
- 5 Airbus A330-200
- 5 Boeing 777-300ER

So they don't qualify as all Boeing but no Airbus operator.

[Edited 2012-11-17 16:06:10]


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 52, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1858 times:

Quoting American 767 (Reply 43):
Because if I follow your reasoning, then one could say American Eagle has neither A or B.

Which you would be correct.

Quoting American 767 (Reply 43):
That's a regional subsidiary of Alaska.

So? The QX pilots don't fly the 737 and the AS pilots don't fly the Q400 nor the CR7's. Horizon may be under the AAG but they are still Horizon Air, a separate company. So this counts.



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User currently offlineyeelep From United States of America, joined Apr 2011, 655 posts, RR: 0
Reply 53, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1851 times:

Well, to be pedantic, QX doesn't fly the CR7 for AS anymore. That flying is now done by OO.
Skywest (OO) is also non A or B airline, that while operating as a regional is classified as a major airline.


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Reply 54, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 1846 times:

Air Tahiti Nui is only A340!

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Reply 55, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1846 times:
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Quoting mogandoCI (Reply 21):
LH mainline is ~75% Airbus so calling it "mostly Airbus" isn't too stretching it.

Doesn't matter as it still doesn't apply in the context this thread.   



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User currently offlineafterburner From Indonesia, joined Jun 2005, 1210 posts, RR: 1
Reply 56, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1845 times:

AirAsia group of airlines only operates A320 and A330. Indonesia AirAsia used to operates several classic 737 though.

User currently offlineTK1244 From Netherlands, joined May 2007, 330 posts, RR: 0
Reply 57, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1842 times:

Not the largest airlines but to name a few:

All Boeing
Arkefly
Transavia
Pegasus Airlines
Turkmenistan Airlines
SunExpress
Anadolujet

All Airbus
Atlasjet
Onur Air
Cyprus Airways

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 36):
Quoting anrec80 (Reply 31):
There is also Air Koryo - neither A nor B.

Well they have Antonovs but no Berievs

lol

[Edited 2012-11-18 07:25:05]


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User currently offlineAlasizon From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 289 posts, RR: 0
Reply 58, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1827 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 4):
you were asking for airlines operating neither Airbus nor Boeing (in which case there aren't any

That is not true, as some people have brought up, Skywest, although a regional, is still not operating either and operates a very large and vast fleet.

Quoting American 767 (Reply 43):
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 39):
Horizon Air has neither A or B.

That's a regional subsidiary of Alaska

Actually, Horizon is its own company and up until recently flew under its own banner as a sister airline of AS.



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User currently offlinefanofjets From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1970 posts, RR: 3
Reply 59, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1791 times:

There's Mesa Airlines, which flies a Canadair/Bombardier/De Havilland Canada fleet for a host of legacy carriers. Thus neither Airbus nor Boeing.


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