Fiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1014 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (3 years 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 2713 times:
My bet is on WN to either MDW or BWI. OKC has had BWI for a while and usually TUL follows suit if OKC does well on something. I work for UA in TUL and we have heard nothing about it so I would be surprised if we added SFO!
iowaman From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (3 years 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2721 times:
Interesting. I will be surprised if it is not WN, and I will be surprised if it's something other than TUL-MDW or BWI. These cities are served out of OKC along with MCI, which I'd say is highly unlikely to come back being such a short distance. This will be an extension covering most of the summer so we may see quite a few changes. TUL should be lucky to get be getting any "LUV" if they do as systemwide capacity planned to be relatively flat for the time being.
Why? As it stands now, Tulsa has non-stop service to Florida, and OKC does not. The markets are very similar - no reason one would get a route over another. And their respective destinations list are extremely similar.
AWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2529 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2712 times:
Quoting mah4546 (Reply 19):
Why? As it stands now, Tulsa has non-stop service to Florida, and OKC does not. The markets are very similar - no reason one would get a route over another. And their respective destinations list are extremely similar
The MIA service is solely due to AA's maintenance hub at TUL. Take that away, and TUL is pretty close to an all-RJ airport (minus WN).
jetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3039 posts, RR: 31
Reply 24, posted (3 years 1 week 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2712 times:
Quoting mah4546 (Reply 19): Why? As it stands now, Tulsa has non-stop service to Florida, and OKC does not. The markets are very similar - no reason one would get a route over another. And their respective destinations list are extremely similar.
AA: DFW, LAX, ORD
WN: DAL, HOU, DEN, LAS, MCI, STL, BWI, MDW, PHX
UA: CLE DEN IAH SFO LAX IAD EWR ORD
DL: MEM SLC ATL DTW MSP
TUL: AA: DFW, ORD, MIA
WN: DAL, HOU, DEN, LAS, PHX, STL
UA: DEN, IAH, LAX, IAD, EWR, ORD
DL: MEM, SLC, ATL, DTW, MSP
TUL has that OKC does not: MIA-AA
OKC has that TUL does not: LAX-AA, CLE-UA, SFO-UA, MDW-WN, MCI-WN, BWI-WN, DEN-F9
Total pax 2011 Jan-Dec: OKC: 3,561,605 (+2.75% over 2010) TUL: 2,794,290 (-1.84% from 2010)
[Edited 2012-11-17 18:48:53]
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