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TUL New Air Service Monday 11/19/12  
User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1378 posts, RR: 2
Posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1927 times:

From Tulsa International Airport Facebook page,

Quote:
It's already the weekend, but we're ready for Monday!! Why? Because of the new non-stop service coming to TUL!!! Stayed tuned for the Monday announcement!

The same day Southwest extends their schedule...

Your thoughts?


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User currently offlinecatdaddy63 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1933 times:
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If it's WN then I'd bet TUL-MDW. But likely SFO on UA.

Here's the current non stop destination list:

http://tulsaairports.com/flight-information/non-stop-destinationa/


User currently offlineFiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1013 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1933 times:

My bet is on WN to either MDW or BWI. OKC has had BWI for a while and usually TUL follows suit if OKC does well on something. I work for UA in TUL and we have heard nothing about it so I would be surprised if we added SFO!


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User currently offlineANA787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 261 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1937 times:

My bid is UA to SFO. Possibly LAX?

[Edited 2012-11-16 15:23:10]

User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 907 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1936 times:

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 3):

Why would TUL be announcing new nonstop service for TUS?



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User currently offlinecatdaddy63 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 296 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1939 times:
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Quoting ANA787 (Reply 3):
My bid is UA to SFO. Possibly LAX?

UA already serves LAX nonstop using the CR7.


User currently offlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 907 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1941 times:

WN schedule extension is Monday so BWI or MDW would be good guesses. Maybe a weekly MCO for the summer?


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User currently offlineusdcaguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 954 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

I agree that TUL-MDW or BWI by WN or TUL-SFO by UA are the most likely contenders, but here are some thoughts.

WN TUL-MCI (reinstatement)
AA TUL-MIA (reinstatement of sorts, unlikely)
WN TUL-AUS (might work well with continuing service to South Texas)
US TUL-CLT

Far-fetched pipe dreams:
G4 TUL-AZA
WN TUL-ICT-DEN x1 (currently nonstop multiple times a day)
WN TUL-ABQ (reinstatement from years ago)
WN TUL-LIT
WN TUL-CUN (although we'd see HOU-CUN first)
DL TUL-LGA
AC TUL-YYC or TUL-YYZ (either operated by Jazz)
B6 or DL TUL-JFK (once flown by TW, I believe)
AS*/QX TUL-SEA
F9 TUL-DEN (reinstatement)
F9 TUL-MSY


User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

I put my money on TUL-MDW WN

and CLT-TUL on US


User currently offlineFiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1013 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

US tried OKC-PHX and LAS a few years back and I believe it didn't last long so I wouldn't count on any US service at TUL.


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User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4368 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1941 times:
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Interesting. I will be surprised if it is not WN, and I will be surprised if it's something other than TUL-MDW or BWI. These cities are served out of OKC along with MCI, which I'd say is highly unlikely to come back being such a short distance. This will be an extension covering most of the summer so we may see quite a few changes. TUL should be lucky to get be getting any "LUV" if they do as systemwide capacity planned to be relatively flat for the time being.


Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD. Return: US SJD-PHX, WN PHX-MDW-DSM
User currently offlinemtnwest1979 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 2433 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1939 times:
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How about SeaPort service to Altus, Enid, Ponca City , etc? lol.

Seriously, like to see n/s to MDW.



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User currently offlineCIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2273 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

wow I didnt realize TUL didnt have MDW service, that kinda surprises me...I'd think that would probaly be a good bet

User currently offlinenomorerjs From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

Doesn't WN have a new schedule coming out on Monday? If so, could be WN to MDW and/or BWI.

User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

I still see a chance of US. I no they flew to OKC(AW) it's funny how people don't say CLT will work where there is 646 flights a day that's double than PHX so wouldn't you think CLT stands a chance

But at the end I honestly believe it will be WN with a TUL-MDW or TUL-BWI


User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4368 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1935 times:
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As with many airports, TUL has seen quite the capacity cuts over the past decade or so. Here are some stats the TUL fans might be enjoy:

2001 2007 2012

Total daily flights 92 85 64

Total airports 17 23 17

Total cities 15 21 15

Total seats 9,428 7,244 5,914



Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD. Return: US SJD-PHX, WN PHX-MDW-DSM
User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1935 times:

Could B6 possibly come to TUL with 1 daily E190

User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32620 posts, RR: 72
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1936 times:

Quoting usdcaguy (Reply 7):
AA TUL-MIA (reinstatement of sorts, unlikely)

What reinstatement? AA still flies this route seasonally. Actually, it resumed today, Novemer 17th.



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User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1883 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 6):
Maybe a weekly MCO for the summer?

OKC will get this LONG before TUL does.

Quoting usdcaguy (Reply 7):
AA TUL-MIA (reinstatement of sorts, unlikely)
WN TUL-AUS (might work well with continuing service to South Texas)
US TUL-CLT

See my previous statement about OKC > TUL.


User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32620 posts, RR: 72
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 18):
OKC will get this LONG before TUL does.

Why? As it stands now, Tulsa has non-stop service to Florida, and OKC does not. The markets are very similar - no reason one would get a route over another. And their respective destinations list are extremely similar.



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User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5363 posts, RR: 12
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1932 times:

Quoting iowaman (Reply 15):

2001 2007 2012

Total daily flights 92 85 64
Total airports 17 23 17
Total cities 15 21 15
Total seats 9,428 7,244 5,914

Interesting. It would be telling to also see the total pax volume at TUL for those 3 years listed; I'm sure all of the categories would continue to show obvious relationships/synergies.

Nice to hear of something new coming to TUL. I hope it's something significant.

Just since nobody's mentioned it, I'll go with Spirit to DFW. (But down deep inside, I'd probably bet on Canyon Blue.)

Good luck everyone!

bb


User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1883 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1932 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 19):

Why? As it stands now, Tulsa has non-stop service to Florida, and OKC does not. The markets are very similar - no reason one would get a route over another. And their respective destinations list are extremely similar

The MIA service is solely due to AA's maintenance hub at TUL. Take that away, and TUL is pretty close to an all-RJ airport (minus WN).


User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32620 posts, RR: 72
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1934 times:

Quoting AWACSooner (Reply 21):
The MIA service is solely due to AA's maintenance hub at TUL. Take that away, and TUL is pretty close to an all-RJ airport (minus WN).

It was introduced as a temporary route at the time to route planes for seat reconfiguration while the 738s were getting new interiors.

With that no longer needed, the route actually was suspended, but later resumed as a winter-only service (when it was done for maintenance purposes it ran during the summer, too).



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User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1883 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1932 times:

I was talking about TUL's AA mx hub...not the route...sorry about the ambiguity.

User currently offlinejetmatt777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2764 posts, RR: 33
Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1932 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 19):
Why? As it stands now, Tulsa has non-stop service to Florida, and OKC does not. The markets are very similar - no reason one would get a route over another. And their respective destinations list are extremely similar.

Not really.

OKC has:

AA: DFW, LAX, ORD
WN: DAL, HOU, DEN, LAS, MCI, STL, BWI, MDW, PHX
UA: CLE DEN IAH SFO LAX IAD EWR ORD
DL: MEM SLC ATL DTW MSP
F9: DEN

TUL: AA: DFW, ORD, MIA
WN: DAL, HOU, DEN, LAS, PHX, STL
UA: DEN, IAH, LAX, IAD, EWR, ORD
DL: MEM, SLC, ATL, DTW, MSP

TUL has that OKC does not: MIA-AA

OKC has that TUL does not: LAX-AA, CLE-UA, SFO-UA, MDW-WN, MCI-WN, BWI-WN, DEN-F9

Total pax 2011 Jan-Dec:
OKC: 3,561,605 (+2.75% over 2010)
TUL: 2,794,290 (-1.84% from 2010)

[Edited 2012-11-17 18:48:53]


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25 Fiveholer : I'm standing on WN to either/both MDW and BWI. If we (UA) get SFO, I'll be really surprised as again, we haven't heard anything about it internally. A
26 stock1985 : While I do think the new service will be WN to MDW or BWI, since it is coinciding with Southwest's new network release. I wonder when AA will expand L
27 Post contains links iowaman : TUL-MDW is coming next June: 916 6:25A 8:10A _____6_ N/S 918 11:45A 1:30P 12345_7 N/S MDW-TUL: 2113 2:30P 4:15P _____6_ N/S 3336 3:20P 5:05P 12345_7 N
28 Fiveholer : So that's it? TUL-MDW on WN? The TAA Facebook site hasn't posted yet...they say "It's not time yet."
29 usdcaguy : It's posted now, with a notation about the "918" flight number. Very cute. There is now too much service from Tulsa to Chicago. AA does not fill its 7
30 contrails : The MDW news is more than a bit disappointing. I was hoping for a Florida destination.
31 airliner371 : Its not disappointing at all. It will allow for a lot more connections and great for business passengers. You can easily connect to Florida if you wi
32 iowaman : Barely. I suspect there will be a loss of some connecting passengers in STL, but not all will choose MDW of course. STL offers markets like DCA (not
33 ouboy79 : Depends on what is needed for mx re-positioning. At some point you just need to get the a/c there and loads be damned. This is good news for TUL. Cou
34 usdcaguy : My impression is that Oklahoma beach traffic is spread too thinly over Mexico, California and Florida to warrant nonstop service. It's hard being in
35 ouboy79 : TUL is probably more prone to leakage than OKC when it comes to Florida as well. You have G4 a short drive away in Springfield and Fayetteville. OKC
36 contrails : It's disappointing to me.
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