Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
Pax Dies When Boarding Ryanair Flight  
User currently offlinedowntown273 From Spain, joined Aug 2005, 302 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

It sounds like a 25-year-old Spanish guy died today in Roma-Ciampino airport while trying to board a Ryanair flight.

He bypassed the gate check and run to the aircraft parked on the tarmac. Apparently he was holding a boarding pass for another flight so the crew didn't let him on the plane.

He held on to the handrails of the Boeing 737-800 stairs and the crew called Airport Police. The Police found him to be "very violent" so they called the ambulance service, who gave him a sedative. He lost consciousness and died. Some sources say it could have been a heart attack.

Link in Spanish only: http://www.euronoticias.es/un-espano...-avion-que-estaba-perdiendo/12351/

(Btw the picture on the news article is not Ciampino, it's Bilbao airport in Spain - not sure why they used this photo)

13 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5771 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2398 times:

My goodness... perhaps they over-sedated him?
Sounds like he was off his rockers from the get-go, which could persuade the authorities to overdo a sedative...


User currently offlineAR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6187 posts, RR: 30
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2400 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

A sedative given to someone so out of his mind, as the news are reporting he was, can have pretty unpredicctable effects. Not saying he died because of it, but I´m not sure it was a wise choice.


MGGS
User currently offlineaviateur From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1352 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 2398 times:

Quoting downtown273 (Thread starter):
(Btw the picture on the news article is not Ciampino, it's Bilbao airport in Spain - not sure why they used this photo)

Because the news media ALWAYS do things like that. Accuracy is so important to the press.... except when it comes to aviation.



Patrick Smith is an airline pilot, air travel columnist and author
User currently offlineRichcandy From UK - England, joined Aug 2001, 719 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

Very sad that he died.

User currently offlinephotoshooter From Belgium, joined Feb 2010, 454 posts, RR: 20
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2397 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW
HEAD SUPPORT

Could have been an anaphylactic reaction to the sedative. That can lead to a heart failure. Very sad to hear that such a young man died because of this.

When it comes to boarding procedure of Ryanair: I've noticed that many people still not understand how they organize their boardings. Passengers do not see the difference in the 'priority boarding' lane and the normal boarding lane.
Sometimes when they announce boardings, they talk as fast as lightning which causes stress for passengers as well.

Quoting AR385 (Reply 2):
A sedative given to someone so out of his mind, as the news are reporting he was, can have pretty unpredictable effects. Not saying he died because of it, but I´m not sure it was a wise choice.

Exactly, I think there are dozens of other non medical ways that could have calmed him down.



'A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on.' - Winston Churchill
User currently offlinekl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5133 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

So young.. could it have been drugs / alcohol in combination with the sedatives?

User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5771 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2396 times:

Quoting photoshooter (Reply 7):
Could have been an anaphylactic reaction to the sedative. That can lead to a heart failure. Very sad to hear that such a young man died because of this.

Well, and it sounds like he was already emotionally---perhaps chemically---unstable to start with, so further upset might have just been more than his system could tolerate.

Quoting kl911 (Reply 8):
So young.. could it have been drugs / alcohol in combination with the sedatives?

That's always a possibility, given his erratic behavior at the time, it would seem. Which would make this even more sad...


User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19569 posts, RR: 58
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2398 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 1):
My goodness... perhaps they over-sedated him?
Sounds like he was off his rockers from the get-go, which could persuade the authorities to overdo a sedative...

That behavior is consistent with acute stimulant intoxication (cocaine, amphetamines). If he was suffering from stimulant toxicity because of a cocaine overdose (cocaine is pretty popular in Spain), a heart attack is certainly a reasonable cause of death.

Dopaminergic/noradrenergic stimulants like cocaine and the amphetamines cause the heart to increase its output by increasing the force and strength of contraction while increasing the rate. At the same time, these stimulants cause constriction of blood vessels, including those coronary vessels supplying the heart. The heart muscle finds itself with increased metabolic demand and decreased nutrient and oxygen supply. The result can be ischemia (lack of oxygen) to the heart muscle and a myocardial infarction (heart attack).

Also, the increase in blood pressure can cause an underlying cerebral aneurism to rupture or it can cause ischemic damage to the brain much as it does to the heart.

As to whether the sedatives could have played a role, it depends on what sedative, how much, and how it was given. Generally, most sedatives used in situations like that wouldn't contribute to the causes of death I've mentioned. Benzodiazepines like lorazepam and diazepam ("ATIVAN" and "VALIUM," respectively) can suppress the breathing drive, but that requires quite a snootful.

Obviously, I have access to the same factual information on this case as anyone else here, so I'm just making an educated guess.


User currently offline9MMPQ From Netherlands, joined Nov 2011, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

A Dutch newspaper now reports medication has been found in his luggage, no further details given. Might have been some very unfortunate combination.

The link with article, in Dutch though.

http://www.telegraaf.nl/buitenland/2...Toerist_sterft_op_vliegveld__.html



I believe in coincidences. Coincidences happen every day. But I don't trust coincidences.
User currently offlineDAL763ER From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 524 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2396 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

I'm surprised we don't hear about Ryanair pax dying more often...  


Where aviation is not the side show, it's the main show!!!
User currently offlineaerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2827 posts, RR: 15
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2401 times:

Quoting DAL763ER (Reply 10):

yeah, cause that would be a really great thing to happen.   



Cabin crew blog http://dolefuldolegirl.blogspot.ie/
User currently offlinekrisyyz From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 2395 times:

This has nothing to do with FR's business approach (I'm not an FR fan). My sister encountered this issue first hand, while an FA on a flight to NRT, a Norwegian sailor who was extremely drunk got very violent. An MD onboard administered a sedative and the sailor went into cardiac arrest, I believe the doctor was charged on some ground of medical malpractice.

RIP to the young passenger, my condolences to his family.

KrisYYZ


User currently offlineRussianJet From Belgium, joined Jul 2007, 7701 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 2397 times:
Support Airliners.net - become a First Class Member!

Quoting DAL763ER (Reply 10):
I'm surprised we don't hear about Ryanair pax dying more often...

Very clever, and nice way to joke about someone's death.   

In other news, people die while walking down the street, flying on other carriers. or indeed in their own homes. Cue the stupid comments......oh wait, there wouldn't be any in those circumstances.



✈ Every strike of the hammer is a blow against the enemy. ✈
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
Pax Receive Tick Bites On Recent Ryanair Flight posted Mon Sep 10 2012 23:49:52 by PHX787
Pax Dies On AR Flight 1134 EZE-MAD posted Sun Mar 27 2005 22:56:08 by PPVRA
Pax Arrested On US Air Flight For Suspicious Bagel posted Thu Jan 6 2011 08:06:42 by fxramper
Compensation On Delayed Ryanair Flight posted Tue Nov 2 2010 03:19:19 by downtown273
Boarding A Wrong Flight posted Fri Apr 2 2010 16:50:23 by blr380
What A/C Operated This Ryanair Flight? posted Mon Feb 15 2010 23:35:59 by EGPH
Ryanair Flight Forced To Divert After Soup Spill. posted Thu Aug 28 2008 02:43:57 by Cumulus
Baby Dies During First Choice Flight posted Wed Apr 23 2008 20:15:31 by SJUboeingGirl
Man Dies Hiding In Pacific Flight Nose Gear posted Thu Jul 19 2007 18:26:46 by PIAflyer
Ryanair Flight FR3003 Today posted Mon Jul 9 2007 18:06:47 by Swiftski
Pax Arrested On US Air Flight For Suspicious Bagel posted Thu Jan 6 2011 08:06:42 by fxramper
Compensation On Delayed Ryanair Flight posted Tue Nov 2 2010 03:19:19 by downtown273
Boarding A Wrong Flight posted Fri Apr 2 2010 16:50:23 by blr380
What A/C Operated This Ryanair Flight? posted Mon Feb 15 2010 23:35:59 by EGPH
Ryanair Flight Forced To Divert After Soup Spill. posted Thu Aug 28 2008 02:43:57 by Cumulus
Baby Dies During First Choice Flight posted Wed Apr 23 2008 20:15:31 by SJUboeingGirl
Man Dies Hiding In Pacific Flight Nose Gear posted Thu Jul 19 2007 18:26:46 by PIAflyer
Ryanair Flight FR3003 Today posted Mon Jul 9 2007 18:06:47 by Swiftski