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A380 Production Thread Part 13  
User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 74656 times:
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User currently offlinetrent1000 From Japan, joined Jan 2007, 573 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 74735 times:

KarelXWB reply 252 thread part 12:

MSN108 EK #27 rolled out at XFW
- MSN110 EK #29 undergoing customer flights, delivery rumoured for November 30
- MSN111 EK #30 rolled out at XFW
- MSN112 EK #31 inside the paint shop, roll out is eminent

What about MSN109? Is that #28 for EK? What stage is it at?

Thanks!


User currently offlinespeedygonzales From Norway, joined Sep 2007, 733 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 74718 times:

Quoting trent1000 (Reply 1):

What about MSN109? Is that #28 for EK? What stage is it at?

Delivered 09.11. according to the Hamburg spotters:
http://www.aviation-community.de/for...c.php?f=16&t=4110&p=110248#p110242



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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6938 posts, RR: 63
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 74698 times:

I'm sure it has been asked before but I haven't seen the answer. Why no MSN97?

User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31119 posts, RR: 85
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 74710 times:
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Quoting PM (Reply 3):
I'm sure it has been asked before but I haven't seen the answer. Why no MSN97?

The A380 Production List site doesn't have any information, but I wonder if it was assigned to one of the freighters? Or from a customer that cancelled a passenger plane.


User currently offlineAF Cabin Crew From French Polynesia, joined Sep 1999, 1041 posts, RR: 34
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 74704 times:
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When is MSN93 Thai Airways HS-TUB supposed to the delivered and flown to Bangkok ?


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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6938 posts, RR: 63
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 74699 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 4):
I wonder if it was assigned to one of the freighters? Or from a customer that cancelled a passenger plane.

Must be something like that. I'd be curious to know.


User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3790 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 74700 times:

I thought I'd ask on here:

What was an apparently unfinished A380 doing in Dresden in September?


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Is that a normal stopover during the production/fitting process?



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12116 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 74704 times:

The A380 is Dresden is MSN5001, the fatigue test airframe.

http://www.airliners.net/photo/0690350/L/



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User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3790 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 74688 times:

Oh, right. Forgot about that one. Thanks.

Though I didn't know they would keep the rig up that long after certification.



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User currently offlinetak From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 74693 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 7):
What was an apparently unfinished A380 doing in Dresden in September?

Wondering if you selected the wrong picture? That is not an A380...


User currently offlineZKOKQ From Australia, joined Mar 2012, 478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 74693 times:

Quoting tak (Reply 10):
Wondering if you selected the wrong picture? That is not an A380...

Check out the back ground.


User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3790 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 74695 times:

I guess I should have said it's hidden behind the scarred A300 walking out of surgery...


Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit posting...
User currently offlinetak From United States of America, joined Jul 2006, 161 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 74696 times:

@ francoflier, My apologies    , I did not look carefully...

User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3423 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 74688 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 9):
Though I didn't know they would keep the rig up that long after certification

Because it's the fatigue aircraft testing, which continues long after the certification is done


User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4802 posts, RR: 40
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 74694 times:
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Soon some new versions of the A380 will be produced offering different weight variants:

From: http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...ewest-a380-weight-variants-379235/

Three additional weight variants - designated WV006, WV007 and WV008 - have been included in a revision of the airframer's technical information. WV008 at 575 tons is now the highest weight variant to be offered to customers.  


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31119 posts, RR: 85
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 74698 times:
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Quoting EPA001 (Reply 15):
Three additional weight variants - designated WV006, WV007 and WV008 - have been included in a revision of the airframer's technical information.

As I expected, WV006 is the 573t MTOW variant.

WV007 looks to be for high-density regional missions as it has the lowest MTOW (492t) and ties for the highest MZFW (395t).

The 575t WV008 equals the RTO test with 16 main braking units, so to go any higher they will need to add the final four, which would then support TOWs of upwards of 625t.


User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3423 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 74400 times:

MSN124, BA's #3, is confirmed as the aircraft on convoy 27,

User currently offlineWolbo From Netherlands, joined Mar 2007, 490 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 74320 times:

When will the modified wing with the final fix for the crack issue go into production?

User currently offlineswallow From Uganda, joined Jul 2007, 555 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 18 hours ago) and read 73716 times:

Quoting Wolbo (Reply 18):
When will the modified wing with the final fix for the crack issue go into production?

TC expects the new wing in Jan 2014, but the fix has not yet been certified by EASA. The permanent fix will restore the 380 to its full lifecycle of 90,000 hours.

Clark points out that it is key for Airbus to receive European Aviation Safety Agency (EASA) certification for the new design soon. “If you are coming up with a new wing in Jan. 14, you are not far away from production start.

I'd expect production to commence later this year.

EK #45 will be the first one delivered with the new wings.


http://www.aviationweek.com/Article....e-xml/awx_11_19_2012_p0-519054.xml



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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3423 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 16 hours ago) and read 73494 times:

MSN113, EK's #32' had its first flight today, which also was the transfer flight to XFW for outfitting

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12116 posts, RR: 34
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 13 hours ago) and read 73257 times:

TG has taken delivery of MSN093, their second frame.

Next up:

- MSN096 KE #6 at TLS delivery centre
- MSN100 TG #3 rolled out at XFW
- MSN108 EK #27 rolled out at XFW
- MSN110 EK #29 undergoing customer flights, delivery rumoured for November 30
- MSN111 EK #30 rolled out at XFW
- MSN112 EK #31 rolled out at XFW, rejected take-off test today

[Edited 2012-11-26 10:53:51]


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User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3423 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 72524 times:

MSN094, MH's 5th, rolled out from outfitting yesterday. Apperently in full livery. Took 11 weeks, which is the fastest frame so far

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 21):
TG has taken delivery of MSN093, their second frame

Delivery flight was yesterday

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 21):
MSN110 EK #29 undergoing customer flights, delivery rumoured for November 30

Seems to be leaving for DXB today, unless there has been some last minutes changes


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12116 posts, RR: 34
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 72051 times:

MSN110 delivery flight http://fr24.com/UAE7380

Airbus delivered 3 A380 aircraft in November:

MSN093 TG #2
MSN109 EK #28
MSN110 EK #29

Status of the 5 remaining frames for this year:

- MSN096 KE #6 at TLS delivery centre
- MSN100 TG #3 at TLS delivery centre
- MSN108 EK #27 rolled out at XFW
- MSN111 EK #30 rolled out at XFW
- MSN112 EK #31 flying from XFW

[Edited 2012-11-30 13:15:46]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 12116 posts, RR: 34
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 71365 times:

Update, Airbus delivered MSN096 KE #6 and MSN108 EK #27 is now flying.

26 deliveries for the current year and 4 to go:

- MSN100 TG #3 at TLS delivery centre
- MSN108 EK #27 flying from XFW
- MSN111 EK #30 rolled out at XFW
- MSN112 EK #31 flying from XFW

[Edited 2012-12-04 07:17:11]


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25 Post contains images Stitch : Which matches 2011's delivery rate.
26 Post contains links Focker : Airbus' CEO Bregier confirms in a Reuters interview that the delivery target for 2013 is less than 30. Quote: Airbus expects to meet a target of deliv
27 N14AZ : Less? Spontaneously I thought you mixed up "less" with "more than" but it's actually true. The reason might be that during summer 2012 there was a lo
28 KarelXWB : Precisely. All 2012 frames were already in FAL when Airbus slowed down the convoys.
29 Post contains links r2rho : Interesting news on airliners.de: EFW, in charge of A300 (and future A330) freighter conversions at DRS, is bidding for A380 wing repair work. It is r
30 someone83 : Msn 133, another one for EK, is confirmed being on convoy 28/2012. Btw: anyone know what happened to the forum at A380production?
31 Post contains links KarelXWB : http://www.facebook.com/a380production/posts/10151201030419825
32 Someone83 : MSN126, KE #7, har rolled out from the FAL in TLS. Used 11 weeks, which is the fastest KE frame so far Deliveries for the next ones for EK, 108, 111 a
33 Post contains links KarelXWB : Update: - MSN108 A6-EEA delivery flight http://fr24.com/UAE7380 - MSN100 HS-TUC is now wearing its final registration http://www.flickr.com/photos/air
34 Someone83 : MSN116, EK's #33, was transfered to XFW for outfitting earlier this week
35 Someone83 : Delivery flight to BKK 20/12
36 KarelXWB : The delivery flight of MSN112, the 30th whalejet for EK, is scheduled for today.
37 KarelXWB : MSN111 EK #31 delivery confirmed for today.
38 Post contains links india1 : Target met, 30th for the year delivered, as confirmed by Airbus - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...very-target-as-new-orders-lag.html
39 RickNRoll : From that article "....concern a component in the aircraft’s wing is prone to cracking. Regulators are expected to approve a fix to the wing flaw ea
40 N14AZ : @ RicknRoll: I noticed the same section in that article. It's actually bad news. Airbus was hoping to get the approval at the end of this year. So I s
41 KarelXWB : Approval for the wing fix is on track for January 2013.
42 Post contains images EPA001 : That is good news.
43 Post contains links N14AZ : Happy new year to all a-netters! Sorry if this has been posted before but I don't think I have seen this here before. Airbus is extending their A 380
44 KarelXWB : Yes, Airbus is building 2 new hangars for cabin outfitting. This is part of the production ramp-up plans.
45 lightsaber : Excellent. What is the target for 2013 after wing crack delays? Good to hear. That should allow for an increase in production. Lightsaber
46 EPA001 : So the pressure on the cabin outfitting process can be better handled? This means no flights to Hamburg for the A380's which will be outfitted here i
47 KarelXWB : No, that picture was taken at Hamburg (XFW). They are building 2 new hangars at XFW.
48 ferpe : On 3rd Dec at EADS GIF 2012 Bregier stated A will deliver 60 A380 over 2013-2014, slightly less 2013 as the production wing fix gets implemented and
49 EPA001 : Thanks for correcting my mistake. I somehow had read Toulouse where it should have been Hamburg of course.
50 Post contains images kanban : Well it them long enough to figure out where the problem was.. must have been reading A.net...
51 Someone83 : MSN119, EK's 34th, had its first flight and transfer to XFW for outfitting today. In addition MSN125, TG's 5th, was confirmed as being on convoy 01/20
52 bongodog1964 : In my very humble opinion, rather than a lack of hangar space the problem appears to be that outfitting just takes far too long.
53 Post contains links and images Heavierthanair : G'day Presumably that's the one on its way to XFW at 43000 ft doing 500 kts http://www.flightradar24.com/AIB01SY/view Cheers Peter
54 KarelXWB : Correct.
55 kanban : I perhaps jumped the gun.. since outfitting is the bottleneck, I reasoned that the new building would support outfitting with more work space.. howev
56 Stitch : Having additional outfitting stations would allow Airbus to have more A380s in outfitting at the same time, so it should result in more A380s delivere
57 bongodog1964 : I'm sure that extra work space will allow faster deliveries, it is however a classic case of curing a problem by throwing money at it.
58 KarelXWB : The plan is to ramp up the production rate to 3 frames a month somewhere in 2014. That means we should see about 36 deliveries in 2015. The FAL at TLS
59 EPA001 : That is good news. They still seem to make progress in that department, which is a very good thing for the A380-program.
60 thegeek : Might still be an appropriate solution. They haven't been able to solve the problem of A380s taking too long outfitting yet so it's fair enough that
61 Post contains images r2rho : Hitting the target and achieving a slight ramp-up respect to 2011 (26 deliveries) despite all the wing problems is definitely good news. I see it tha
62 Post contains images Heavierthanair : G'day So if they were maintaining present production rates as per Bregier's quote why would they build these additional hangars. Or have plans changed
63 Stitch : These new hangars will not be used for wing fixes. Right now it takes so long to install the cabin on an A380 that Airbus has a backlog of completed
64 Someone83 : AFAIK they'll go from six to eight outfittings stations, thus increasing capacity by 33%
65 Post contains images N14AZ : @Someone83 / Stich: that's correct. Before, they had: 6 outfitting hangars 2 painting hangars 2 flightline hangars Didn't Airbus' management analyse p
66 KennyK : Does anyone know roughly what the 30 or so deliveries will be this year? I know BA will be a new customer this year, Qatar was to have been but this h
67 Ruscoe : Any further news or information on this? Ruscoe
68 KarelXWB : Not yet, it's too soon. So far Airbus has already 19 frames to be delivered this year: - MSN002 private - MSN094 MH #5 - MSN095 BA #1 - MSN113 EK #32
69 Aviaponcho : Thank you very much KarelXWB Only one new operator for the A380 in 2013 ? British Airways ? Have a good day
70 KarelXWB : Correct. 2014 will be more exciting with 4 new operators: Qatar, Asiana, Skymark and Etihad. Maybe a fifth if Air Austral will continue with the A380
71 Post contains images EPA001 : That could have an impact on the cabin outfitting times. It will be interesting to watch how far Airbus has developed that process with so many new c
72 KarelXWB : The final wing fix should be approved this month. There is an approximately 10-month lead-time on the wing, so we should see the first frames with th
73 Aviaponcho : Ok So 2013 the focus is the wings... 2014 is back to business as usual but with a lot of new operators...
74 Post contains images KarelXWB : And ramping up the production to 3 frames a month.
75 thegeek : I make it that the backlog will theoretically be delivered mid-2020. Perhaps a bit earlier with cancellations to come such as IT. I'd think a higher p
76 BigJKU : Doing the math on this they will have delivered around 60% of the program before they are building a plane not for a cash loss on each individual uni
77 thegeek : Oops, must have miscalculated! Theoretical backlog = 165 2013 expected production = 30 2014 onwards expected production = 36/year Certainly agree wit
78 BA0197 : What is the delivery date of the BA plane?
79 KarelXWB : Forget the R&D costs. Sometimes you have to invest to ensure your future. I see the A380 R&D costs as an investement for an aircraft that wil
80 KarelXWB : The first BA A380 is scheduled to arrive at LHR in July.
81 United885 : What about the IT A380´s? Are they still scheduled for 2016? Or is the order canceled after the bancrupt of IT?
82 KarelXWB : The IT A380 order has not been officially canceled yet, but I'm pretty sure we will never see an A380 in IT livery.
83 Someone83 : BA's #2, MSN121, has rolled out from FAL in TLS, after 13 weeks. In XFW, the 6th and final aircraft for MH seems to have finished outfitting and are k
84 scouseflyer : As I always do, I wonder if they'll order a top-up on delivery of the final one. I'm guessing probably not but it was perceived wisdon that MH didn't
85 Someone83 : MSN131, TG's 6th and final A380, is being shipped on convoy 2/2013, arriving in TLS this week
86 N14AZ : I just read some new information about the wing fix issue on a German aviation forum and I thought it would be worth sharing it here: Airbus is curren
87 kanban : so will regulatory want to see some actual testing on this plane prior to delivery?
88 KarelXWB : Airbus said that the wing fix won't be available until October 2013 because there is a lead time of 10 months on the wing. So I'm wondering how MSN095
89 WingedMigrator : It's a repair (restoring the item to its intended function and performance, although it will not conform to the baseline engineering drawings), as op
90 N14AZ : Because they are installing it right now retroactively in Finkenwerder, in parallel to the outfitting works The statement of Airbus you are refering
91 Post contains images KarelXWB : Off course, there is a difference between the frames currently in production and the wing production. Thanks for clearing that up. Last December Airbu
92 A388 : Hey guys, My apologies if this has been asked before (as I haven't followed the A380 production thread in a long time) but which new A380 operator is
93 Focker : BA mid of 2013 followed by QR early 2014 if I am not mistaken.
94 Post contains links N14AZ : They never ordered the A 380. It was just a MoU. At that time we were joking that it would be a good moment to invest in companies active in producin
95 LH422 : So many planes delivered and still not a single special livery in sight. I'm not even comparing it to the 787. Every other widebody must have a higher
96 KarelXWB : MSN089 MH #4 will probably get an oneworld livery next month.
97 ba319-131 : - Now that would be nice to see.
98 Post contains images LH422 : Ah, finally! Would have preferred something like Wunala Dreaming, but it's a start.
99 Post contains links KarelXWB : From http://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-...ands-defis-d-airbus-pour-2013.html "The manufacturer must be submitted first to the successful implementat
100 Someone83 : MSN134, EK's #39, is being confirmed on convoy 3/2013. Arriving in TLS this week
101 A388 : Thanks I thought the VN A380 order was finalized/confirmed. Guess not... A388
102 KarelXWB : Back in 2009 Vietnam Airlines is/was interested in the A380 but they couldn't firm the order because 1) they have no suitable airport for the whalejet
103 Someone83 : Some movements in TLS: MSN127, KE's 7th, had its first flight. Stayed in TLS and didn't transfer to XFE MSN125, TG's 5th, seems to have gone from body
104 Post contains links art : Airbus say that 2013 production rates will remain the same: A320 - 42pm A330 - 10pm A380 - 3pm The A380 production rate of three aircraft per month wi
105 someone83 : Yesterday MSN126, KE's #7, was transfered to XFW for outfitting, while MSN094, MH's #5, went the opposite way and is now in TLS for final preparations
106 r2rho : As mentioned above, 2 new outfitting hangars are being built at XFW. So while the total outfitting time may not be significantly reduced, there will
107 art : It takes nearly a year from convoy of parts to delivery IIRC. That means an average of about 3 complete frames convoyed each month in 2013 to achieve
108 someone83 : MSN136, EK's 40th, is being confirmed on convoy 4/2013. MSN114, the sixth and last to MH, has finished outfitting in XFW, while MSN121, BA's 2nd, has
109 Post contains links PW100 : Seems Airbus has a little wing-transportation snag . . . : http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-north-east-wales-21305011
110 Post contains links speedygonzales : Subsection assembly for Asisna's first, MSN 152, has started in Hamburg. http://www.aviation-community.de/forum-nord/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=10450
111 Post contains images Wolbo : MSN094 (9M-MNE) was delivered today, the 5th for Malaysia Airlines and the 98th A380 in total. Two more and it's party time....
112 Someone83 : Is this the reason for the splitting up of the recent convoys, or is this due to other issues?
113 Post contains images KarelXWB : MSN120 CZ #5 should be next (99th). Number 100 could be MSN113 (EK #32), MSN114 (MH #6) or MSN122 (TG 4). It is.
114 Post contains images EPA001 : The first century is coming up. Though much later the originally anticipated, it will still be quite a memorable moment.
115 KL5147 : What about MSN115 (intended for AF)? it won't be #100 but it seems to be a long time in FAL. It left Langon for road transport to Toulouse on august
116 Post contains links KarelXWB : MSN115 rolled out after ~ 23 weeks in FAL. http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/8447092799/
117 KarelXWB : Confirmed now.
118 caliatenza : will the new EK 380's have the range to do DXB to the US West Coast?
119 Post contains images r2rho : Very possibly, but only those assembled after MSN95, BA's first, and the first aircraft introducing a higher MTOW and other tweaks like a wing twist
120 jumpjet : A few daft questions please... Anyone any idea when the first BA A380 will emerge from the paintshop? Is the interior fully fitted out before paint an
121 Stitch : BA performs cabin outfitting (at least for the premium cabins) at Cardiff so I would guess this would be the case for the A380.
122 art : If it still takes Airbus a long time to outfit an A380 after doing it 100 times, how long would it take BA with no previous experience?
123 Tristarsteve : You are comparing apples and oranges. BA installs the premium seats at Cardiff, the Boeings arrive with all the wall and ceiling panels and PSUs etc
124 someone83 : China Southern's firth and final (MSN120) was ferried down to TLS for preparation for delivery today To bad the A380production blogg has died making i
125 Post contains images petera380 : I believe Airbus had a hand in shutting it down!
126 Post contains images lightsaber : Just to clarify, it sounds like this will be built *at risk* with the "permanent repair" instead of the new wing? Its perfectly legal to make an airc
127 N14AZ : Is that really true? I mean they didn't do anything illegal there so an which basis would Airbus be able to threaten them? Spotting movements in TLS
128 Stitch : Yes. Boeing delivered the planes with the World Traveller Plus and World Traveller cabins installed. BA Engineering than handled installation of Firs
129 jumpjet : So, can anyone confirm that this is going to happen with the BA A380s? Sounds a bit improbable to me! S when is the first BA A380 going to be emergin
130 ZKCIF : Hard to say but the plane will be delivered in June 2013 if it helps
131 Bongodog1964 : Silly question, but is Cardiff maintenance A380 compatible space wise, and secondly with the BA long haul fleet gradually expanding at what point doe
132 N14AZ : Thanks for the information. So far we saw two approaches. A - painting after cabin outfitting or B - cabin outfitting interrupted for two weeks for p
133 jumpjet : Many thanks for your reply. Very grateful...
134 KarelXWB : The first BA A380 (MSN095) is now in its 15th outfit-week since arrival at XFW. Outfitting usually takes ~ 17 weeks for a new customer, so I expect th
135 Post contains images jumpjet : Should be worth the wait. I always think it's quite exciting to see a new airliner in the livery of a new customer airline. As BA is something of a n
136 KarelXWB : MSN094 MH #5 has been delivered today.
137 speedygonzales : It might have been due to copyright issues as that blog was notorious for using Airbus' and other people's pictures without giving credit or obtainin
138 art : Above was posted 7 Feb 2013. Above was posted 22 Feb 2013. Which one is right? You haven't confused MSN094 with another, have you KarelXWB?
139 KarelXWB : Sorry, my mistake. MSN094 was delivered around February 7 but the delivery flight to KUL was today.
140 KL5147 : I saw a MH A380 at Finkenwerder Monday Feb 18th. She made one take off roll but did not get airborne. It then returned to the facility again. (I coul
141 mjoelnir : You saw a rejected take of, it is a test. It could be the next MH MSN 114. MSN 094 was at that time at the delivery centre in TLS.
142 ZKCIF : if Airbus contributed to the end of the blog, they were not wise. have you ever seen a band or a sports team trying to ban a fan club promoting them?
143 mjoelnir : I followed the blog and forum and posted a few times pictures and videos were usually by the guys themselves or it was a link. If you would be right,
144 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : MSN114 performed a cabin flight test too. Here is a nice video of MSN114's CFF: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FFnqdwNdP2
145 Post contains links KarelXWB : Airbus did not shut down the a380production blog, I believe the owner has found other interests. A new production forum has been created at http://do
146 mjoelnir : Thank you for that information.
147 someone83 : MSN132 (EK's 36th) has been transfered to XFW for outfitting
148 KarelXWB : MSN138 EK 42th has been confirmed as the new frame carried on the latest convoy. 3 more frames to go and EK will have half of their A380 order. 11 fra
149 Post contains links KarelXWB : MSN120 is now wearing its final registration (B-6140): http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/8512697035/in/photostream This was the last CZ A380 on
150 scouseflyer : Is the boat still stuck on the sandbank outside Mostyn - when I took the kids to the beach last Sunday it was still there - it's got to be really hurt
151 mjoelnir : It was refloated on the 9th of February.
152 KarelXWB : Expected deliveries for the next months: March - MSN114 MH - MSN122 TG April - MSN113 EK May - MSN116 EK - MSN119 EK
153 Post contains links bycac : Acceptance flight for MSN114 , to be delivered soon normaly. http://www.flickr.com/photos/bycac/8535967189/in/photostream
154 KennyK : Is MSN120 for China Southern the next delivery?, #99, if so when, and will that mean MSN114 for MH will be #100? That will also mean the completion of
155 mjoelnir : MSN 120 was delivered on the first of March.
156 Someone83 : MSN115, #9 for AF finallay had its first flight at TLS today
157 KarelXWB : MSN139 EK #43 has been confirmed as the new frame being carried on Convoy #10.
158 r2rho : Interestingly, this ship was also the first carrying A400M wings from Filton. Due to the definitive closure of FZO by BAE, Airbus can no longer fly t
159 Post contains links KarelXWB : MSN114 is now wearing its final registration which means the 100th A380 has been delivered. http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/8552380250/in/photo
160 Post contains images EPA001 : Which is a milestone reached. Even if it was much more of a burden then expected, still congrats to all involved parties and persons are in place.
161 hannahpa : I know this has been discussed adnausium, but every time I see any information on the A380, I ask myself: When are they going to build the 380-900???
162 VV701 : This may have already happened. For example 744 G-BNLI positioned to SIN on 13 January for heavy maintenance. It returned to LHR on 3 March. G-CIVC t
163 skipness1E : This is due to lack of hangar capacity at Heathrow as the second of two hangars are made A380 ready, hence a drop in capacity.
164 KarelXWB : MSN140 EK #44 will be carried on convoy #11 (convoy will start tonight). 1 more frame to go and Airbus is half through the EK order of 90 A380s.
165 Post contains links thegeek : This article reckons 2020 for launch: http://www.ausbt.com.au/supersizing-...1-000-seat-airbus-a380-due-by-2020 I guess that would mean EIS in the ea
166 sf260 : I think Airbus can launch it as early as (Le Bourget) 2017 with EIS for 2020-22, with (slightly) updated engines for -800 and -900. Most of A350 and A
167 Semaex : So which operators are interested in a -900? Out of my head I can remember LH stating they have an interest, EK wouldn't be a hard guess and CX would
168 sf260 : Off the top of my head, LH, AF, EK, CX, VS (fwiw) and SUH have all publicly stated they are interested in a larger variant. I can imagine other airlin
169 thegeek : QF could use a small number, particularly for SYD-LAX. Not sure about their LHR ops.
170 Post contains links ZKCIF : A little overview of where we stand is due. Prior to January 1, 2013 we had 97 deliveries. With the completion of Convoy 11 it looks like we can know
171 Post contains links bycac : BAW number 3 ! Normally RTO today but not seen...noramlly first flight tomorrow and after go to XFW ! http://www.flickr.com/photos/bycac/8578375834/in
172 art : Sorry if this has been raised before... The flow of A380 production throughout the year does not look very smooth: Deliveries ***** Q Q Q Q 2009 0 3 3
173 JValjean : Perhaps it might be a means of avoiding/minimizing significant financial penalties (i.e. penalties > potential savings derived from increased prod
174 thegeek : Interesting. So is there a realistic chance of reaching 3 per month in 2014?
175 HB-IWC : Emirates has stated that it will put 9 frames into operation during 2013, so your information of 10 frames delivered to EK in 2013 is likely correct
176 someone83 : MSN128, KE's #8, was transfered to outfitting in XFW earlier this week
177 bycac : HS-TUD was delivered this morning THA8945 !
178 hannahpa : Who did it go to???? Is this #101????
179 Post contains images Asiaflyer : It is TG's #4. See reply 170 above.
180 someone83 : MSN124, BA's third, is having its first flight and is being ferried from TLS to outfitting in XFW today
181 Post contains links KarelXWB : Lufthansa Technik has been carrying out a full-life repair on one of the German carrier's A380s at Frankfurt since February, and says the work takes 4
182 LH422 : So this is D-AIMB?
183 Post contains images KarelXWB : Yes, D-AIMB it is
184 KarelXWB : MSN095, the first A380 for BA, entered the paint hanger today.
185 timboflier215 : Hurrah! About time!!
186 EPA001 : Good news for BA and the A380.
187 jumpjet : Not long to wait then before we see the finished article in all it's glory! How long will it be in the paint shop?
188 VV701 : I think - but do not know - that the reason BA has either installed the premium class seats in new long-haul aircraft or had them installed by Marshal
189 KarelXWB : A week or so. Latest information however says that BA won't pull it to the flightline but instead keep it inside until the official roll-out ceremony
190 Post contains images EPA001 : That would be a good marketing deal for BA there.
191 Tristarsteve : I have seen pictures taken at Hamburg of the BA A380 with Club seats installed, and the B787 at Seattle also with Club seats installed. The same sour
192 someone83 : MSN132, Emirates #32, had its Cabin first flight at XFW today. Delivery is expected later this month
193 Focker : It is MSN 113
194 KarelXWB : MSN095 BA #1 is now outside in full livery, no pictures yet.
195 Post contains images MWHCVT : Now that's just teasing
196 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Pictures are coming in:
197 MWHCVT : Best looking A380 ever hands down
198 Post contains images EPA001 : I like the liveries of Thai International Airways and especially Korean Air also very much on the A380. But this looking quite good as well to me. .
199 Post contains images Semaex : I'll decide when (if?) the VN bird comes out of the paint hangar But I must give credit to BA, they've done a good job. The only tiny bit I would cha
200 lightsaber : I rather like how they've adapted the livery for the size of the A380. I expected to say otherwise (or more likely, hold my tongue), Lightsaber
201 Aviaponcho : Hello It could have been better with a more refined wing to body joint ... The grey of the wings is interrupting the blue belly line unfortunately (in
202 bongodog1964 : From the side you are right, if however you were looking up in the sky as it flies overhead the blue and grey will look correct. Taking the blue high
203 VV701 : This is likely a function of the colour temperature of the night time lighting. Overcast daylight has a colour temperature of around 5,500 degrees Ke
204 Post contains links art : Sorry if this is a bit off the current topic (A380 livery production). Regarding thw wing fix: http://www.aviationweek.com/Article....l/avd_04_03_2013
205 bongodog1964 : It was mentioned a while back that the work would be done in conjunction with a major check. I know that BA takes about 30 days to do a D check on a
206 queb : the first A380 structural check is due after 6000 flight hours, they can not wait so long.
207 bongodog1964 : Why not, after all many of the early 380's are way beyond 6000 hours now. Airbus was reported in January as offering a repair schedule that could be
208 KarelXWB : MSN137 QR #1 has been confirmed as the new frame being carried on Convoy 2013/12. The convoy is currently on its way to TLS.[Edited 2013-04-09 02:18:2
209 swallow : And the first convoy with the modified wings. Great to see.
210 someone83 : MSN133, 37th to EK, had first flight and ferry to XFW today
211 Post contains links 747classic : According several sources Air France has negotiated a delivery delay of four A380 aircraft (two scheduled for 2013 and two for 2014), also one option
212 KarelXWB : There is/was only 1 AF delivery scheduled for this year (MSN 115).[Edited 2013-04-11 01:11:08]
213 Post contains links KarelXWB : I read the article and I'm wondering where they get that information. Air France last 2 units were already postponed until 2016 (a year ago). This is
214 Post contains images KarelXWB : Ok, it seems like the Dutch websites have translated it incorrectly (as usual ). MSN115 AF #9 will be delivered in September 2013 MSN117 AF #10 will b
215 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : MSN5001, the fatigue test frame, is now being slowly dismantled. The fatigue testing comes to an end. Translated: http://www.flugzeugforum.de/airbus-a
216 someone83 : Yesterday, both MSN127 (EK #37) and MSN131 (TG #6) had their first engine runs. So first flight and transfer to XFW shouldn't be that far away. MSN116
217 Someone83 : MSN144, BA's #4, is being confirmed as the frame on convoy 13/2013
218 Post contains links and images queb : The vertical tail section for the first A380 for Qatar Airways has been painted.
219 Post contains images A388 : That tail looks really small compared to the guys walking in front of it but I'm sure that's just the obtical illusion (the tail is probably much fur
220 Post contains links KarelXWB : And here is the press release (including a high-res picture): http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pr...irst-a380-rolls-out-of-paint-shop/
221 Post contains images EPA001 : I have high expectations of the QR-livery on the A380 as well. .
222 Post contains links LH422 : It seems that D-AIMB, the LH plane receiving the final wing crack fixes, did a test flight yesterday after being in maintenance for a long time. http:
223 Unflug : If you look at the building you see that the camera view is not horizontal, it is looking upwards...
224 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Another view:
225 travelavnut : I had the same feeling, until... Love the livery on the tail, think the Whale will look awesome in the Qatar colors...
226 Someone83 : MSN127, EK #38, had its first flight and transfer to XFW for outfitting yesterday. MSN131, TG #6, should follow soon
227 Someone83 : Seems like MSN121, BA's 2nd, now is on the flightline in XFW fully painted
228 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : MSN137 in body join: (uploaded by A380_TLS)
229 BoeingVista : Heres a question, did the fatigue frame pick up the wing cracking issue?
230 Stitch : As I understand it, the cracks were discovered during the inspection of the QF31 airframe after the engine failure.
231 Post contains images KarelXWB : Correct. A blessing in disguise
232 BoeingVista : Yes, I know this but did the fatigue test frame also see the cracking issue.
233 KarelXWB : As far as I know no cracks were discovered in the fatigue frame.
234 KarelXWB : Airbus delivered EK's 32th A380 today: MSN113 / AF-EEF.
235 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : MSN095 engine run today. (uploaded by XFW-Spotter) http://www.flickr.com/photos/xfwspotter/8713713485/in/photostream[Edited 2013-05-06 09:51:05]
236 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : And taxi test today: (uploaded by XFW-Spotter)
237 Post contains images KarelXWB : Oops I meant 32nd, not 32th Anyway, Emirates has taken delivery of their 33th A380 today: MSN116 / A6-EEG.
238 Post contains images EPA001 : She is quite a beauty in BA's colours. Thanks for posting the picture. .
239 KarelXWB : Emirates number 45 (MSN141) is on its way to TLS (convoy 14/2013).[Edited 2013-05-11 05:40:22]
240 Post contains images AustrianZRH : I think you meant 33rd there .
241 someone83 : MSN119, EK #34, had it's CFF and MSN134, EK #39, was transfered TLS-XFW for outfitting today
242 Post contains links and images queb : MSN 137 http://www.flickr.com/photos/aircrafts/8734775231/in/photostream/
243 miami : The QR livery on the A380 will be AMAZING. It will be on my top 3 favorite A380 liveries
244 na : KE, BA, and TH liveries look good on the A380. And QR´s colours will certainly suit it too.
245 Post contains links and images EK413 : Under tow to have her power plants fitted http://www.flickr.com/photos/openskyphotographer/ EK413
246 Jumpjet : Q1. So can someone please tell me what they're doing with this one now in terms of outfitting and testing? Q2. How far are we away from the actual de
247 na : Why are new Airbus planes always painted so patchily in different shades of green coating? Cant they decide on a single colour? It does look unprofess
248 KarelXWB : Different materials = different colors. G-XLEA should have its CFF this week, if no issues are found the customer acceptance flight will follow after
249 Jumpjet : Thanks KarelXWB. Sorry, but what's RTO? CFF? Cheers!
250 travelavnut : Good thing than that nobody cares what it looks like during production.....
251 KarelXWB : RTO is the Rejected Take Off test. This high-speed taxi test is done to be sure the brakes work as expected. CFF stands for Cabin First Flight, this
252 ba319-131 : - RTO = Rejected Take Off CFF = Cabin First Flight
253 Jumpjet : Thanks, now I've learnt something.
254 7BOEING7 : Also does a really good job of finding any loose parts. Pretty violent even though it's done at a fairly low speed (about 90 kts on Boeing airplanes)
255 a380900 : So "modified wings" means it is modified for the cracks issue or for the twist adjustment? Was te 1.5° of twist added because of the work necessary
256 Post contains links KarelXWB : Yes I believe it's something around 90 kts indeed. Here is a nice video of G-XLEA's RTO at XFW: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99J-qbuc3dA And here i
257 Post contains images EPA001 : The QR A380's will be another stunning looking A380. Can't wait to see her fully painted. .
258 Pugman211 : Wow!! That 748 RTO was pretty awesome!! On the A380 RTO, do they use reverse thrust aswell as spoilers and brakes?? Also, what was the reason for the
259 someone83 : First without Crack issues. The first 1,5* wing twist is BA's first
260 r2rho : No, the wing twist was a purely aerodynamic consideration. The decision to do that came before the wing crack issues popped up, so is independent. As
261 KarelXWB : The final fix was applied on MSN095 during cabin outfitting in XFW. BA also stated they will not accept any A380 without the final wing fix.
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