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Fastjet's First Routes Now On Sale And Unbundling  
User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2966 times:

Fastjet now has its initial flights - 2x daily DAR-Kilimanjaro and 2x daily DAR-Mwanza, all in Tanzania - on sale with all-in one-way fares from GBP£16/EUR€21/USD$27/EUR. Surprisingly, these INCLUDE taxes. Nice!

Daily routing for its (presumably) its first 319 will be:

DAR-MWN: 0600-0730
MWN-DAR: 0815-0945
DAR-JRO: 1030-1150
JRO-DAR: 1235-1355
DAR-MWN: 1500-1630
MWN-DAR: 1715-1845
DAR-JRO: 1930-2050
JRO-DAR: 2135-2255

Obviously it has scheduled 45-minute turnarounds due to 'cultural' issues, often found in Africa and the Middle East, that mean shorter turnarounds aren't often viable.

Out of curiosity, was it just me or did Fastjet initially state that its first route would be DAR-NBO 3x daily?

Fastjet will, from day one, have an unbundled fare structure, so lowering the airfare and hopefully stimulating more demand given price-elasticity. Baggage charges: USD$5 for 1 checked bag up to 20kg. For a 25kg bag, $30 for domestic flights and $40 for international. For a 32kg bag, $65/$89. Excess baggage charges (to a maximum of 32kg) are $5 for domestic flights and $7 for international. Changes to departure date are $25. Other fees (except food/drink) are here: http://www.fastjet.com/tz/faqs/fees-and-charges

[Edited 2012-11-18 04:11:48]


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
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User currently offlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1919 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2971 times:

Well...

Actually they don´t even have AOC and they plan to operate with Fly540 Tanzania AOC and they have a bill unpaid bill of fuel in Kenya, so if they fly there they will be seized.

They are planning to start operation this week but in Fly540 AOC the Airbus is not included so it´s impossible to do that in 1 week, the plane is not even in Tanzania, and need to be registered before start working, seme with cabin crew and cockpit crews....

They have so many open issues still pending, this week there´s a public hearing about this with the TCAA and Fastjet.

I´m not sure if they will be able to start operating when they are planning.


User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11709 posts, RR: 60
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2973 times:

Quoting migair54 (Reply 1):
They are planning to start operation this week but in Fly540 AOC the Airbus is not included so it´s impossible to do that in 1 week, the plane is not even in Tanzania, and need to be registered before start working, seme with cabin crew and cockpit crews....

This reminds me of WizzAir Ukraine's start up - very similar situation. In their case is appears some brown envelopes, a bit larger than the ones AeroSvit/UIA were offering, helped things along. Their first A320 didn't officially clear customs until after everybody had boarded for the first flight and the plane was waiting to depart.


Dan  



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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2973 times:

There do indeed appear to be some issues related, for example, to unpaid fuel and engine repairs from Fly540. Seems the figure is somewhere around $1.5m. Given Fastjet has capital of around £70m, and strong backers, this ought not to be a real issue. Still, we shall see what develops.

Quoting migair54 (Reply 1):
Actually they don´t even have AOC and they plan to operate with Fly540 Tanzania AOC

The easyGroup purchased Lonrho, the owner of Fly540, earlier this year. This was great in terms of the immediate access it gives them to various African countries, thereby meaning they need not get them from scratch and so speeding up their existence.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1919 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2973 times:

right now i know they have huge money to invest but i´m not sure if the market is really ready for a low cost model in Tanzania, The fares are very attractive but all the extra charges will make many people angry and very bad publicity for the company, when a tanzanian pax buy a ticket to fly from Mwanza to Dar es Salaam wants to get all included and if when he/she is going to check in with the bag, the 3 hand bags and the bucket of fresh fish from the lake, he/she will be told now you have to pay all of this extra money for extra bags, etc.... the situation will not be easy.

I would like to see the price chart for drinks but in flight from DAR to JRO i´m sure they will not make a lot of money, it´s not even 1 hour flight and mwanza is about 1:20, so on board selling will hardly make cash.

Challenges in Africa are very big, they will have to fight with the very big protectionism of the countries and it won´t be easy for them to access some markets, Air Tanzania, Air Malawi, Air Uganda, all of them have very important and powerful connections with governments and they will try to protect a lot.

Let´s see.

By the way, last rumor I heard is that KQ might be interested in joining somehow forces with fastjet to have access to the low cost market, something that they have been trying to do in the last few years but the unions have been constantly blocking and giving problems, it will be interesting to see what´s going on now.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2973 times:

Quoting migair54 (Reply 4):
The fares are very attractive but all the extra charges will make many people angry and very bad publicity for the company

This is the same as every country/continent when such pricing materialises. A lot of Europeans, for example, still don't like it - but it still exists and has done so for years and years now. Undoubtedly considerable communication, education, and promotion will be needed likely along the lines of 'pay for only what you want and get cheaper fares'. I recall the same views of people when unbundling and a la carte pricing first came to Europe, North America, parts of Asia, etc. It will be good to see how Fastjet approaches this.

Quoting migair54 (Reply 4):
the situation will not be easy

Doubt anyone is saying it will be, but you must admire their guts.

Quoting migair54 (Reply 4):
Challenges in Africa are very big

Absolutely, numerous problems, including protective governments (in most African nations), Infrastructural issues, very high taxation, high facility charges, etc. At the same time, there's some great and exciting opportunities given typically high fares, poor substitution, some pretty fast-growing economies, rising disposable incomes, etc. Anyway, we must wait to see what happens.

Quoting migair54 (Reply 4):
last rumor I heard is that KQ might be interested in joining somehow forces with fastjet to have access to the low cost market,

The last report I read was that they are still evaluating their own JamboJet.

[Edited 2012-11-18 05:20:01]


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1919 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2971 times:

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 5):
The last report I read was that they are still planning their own JamboJet.

they are trying and trying but it will be extremely difficult because the unions are very strong and ready to fight.

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 5):
Absolutely. Infrastructural issues, very high taxation, (probably) high facility charges, and numerous others... but equally, some great opportunities given typically high fares, poor substitution, some pretty fast-growing economies, rising disposable incomes, etc. Anyway, we must wait to see what happens.

You should see Mwanza Airport terminal...  .... And DAR is becoming very crowded at peak times....

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 5):
but you must admire their guts.

I do admire them and i´m sure they have more info than me about the business, I also heard that they are planning to have up to 2 years losses before making money but that period can be reduce.
Actually i hope they bring up the standards of flying in Africa, reducing cost, improving travelling experience, reducing crazily high fares, and improving salaries and creating jobs.


User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19259 posts, RR: 52
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2971 times:

Quoting migair54 (Reply 6):
up to 2 years losses before making money

2 years or so is expected. I'm worried when I hear airlines expecting to make operating/net profit in the first year. Alarm bells start ringing.

Quoting migair54 (Reply 6):
Actually i hope they bring up the standards of flying in Africa, reducing cost, improving travelling experience, reducing crazily high fares, and improving salaries and creating jobs.

In theory they should be able to do a number of those things.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11709 posts, RR: 60
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2971 times:

To what extent could FastJet benefit from (hypothetically) being the preferred airline of western tour operators to book people on? I imagine flying a domestic carrier established by the founder of easyJet would sit better with most tourists (myself excluded I must add!) than the other local carriers.


Dan  



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User currently offlinemigair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1919 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2926 times:

Sorry for the delay but.

First Fastjet A319 is in DAR airport and already register in Tanzania, 5H-FJA, very nice livery, I couldn´t take any picture because it was park on the other side of the taxiway and I didn´t have time to cross but I will try on wednesday.

Also next expansion is already out, MBA 2 daily, NBO 4 daily and EBB 1 daily and ZNZ 6 week among the routes.

The route to MBA is going to be crazy from a 4-5 a week now on PW ATR´s to a almost 4 daily, PW, 2 Fastjet and now Qatar has obtain right to operate and sell 5th freedom tickets on the route as well, DOH-MBA-DAR-MBA-DOH.



Dar es Salaam – Entebbe 1 daily
FN141 DAR2025 – 2205EBB 319 D
FN142 EBB2250 – 0330+1DAR 319 D

Dar es Salaam – Mombasa Up to 2 daily
FN131 DAR0830 – 0925MBA 319 x7
FN133 DAR1010 – 1105MBA 319 D

FN132 MBA1650 – 1745DAR 319 x7
FN134 MBA1830 – 1925DAR 319 D

Dar es Salaam – Nairobi Up to 4 daily
FN101 DAR0630 – 0745NBO 319 x6
FN105 DAR1015 – 1130NBO 319 D
FN103 DAR1445 – 1600NBO 319 D
FN107 DAR1645 – 1800NBO 319 D

FN102 NBO0815 – 0930DAR 319 x6
FN106 NBO1230 – 1345DAR 319 D
FN104 NBO2010 – 2125DAR 319 D
FN108 NBO2210 – 2325DAR 319 D

Dar es Salaam – Zanzibar 6 weekly
FN120 DAR0830 – 0945ZNZ 319 x6
FN121 ZNZ1030 – 1145DAR 319 x6


User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2777 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2430 times:
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Fastjet carried 6,884 passengers with an average load factor of 85.4% in its first week of operations on two routes. It has sold 18,090 tickets with bookings now being taken for flights until March 2013.

Chief executive Ed Winter said: “A great deal of hard work has gone in from the Fastjet team, the Tanzanian government, agents, contractors and suppliers to make this launch such a success.

“We are looking forward to having all three initial Airbus A319′s fully operational over the coming weeks so that we can adequately cater for the expected holiday surge.”



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User currently offlineEGSUcrew From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 2257 times:

Just got a quote from Dar Es Salaam to Kilamanjaro for £50 return with a bag, fantastic prices!

Where's the catch...


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17825 posts, RR: 46
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2133 times:

Quoting migair54 (Reply 9):
The route to MBA is going to be crazy from a 4-5 a week now on PW ATR´s to a almost 4 daily, PW, 2 Fastjet and now Qatar has obtain right to operate and sell 5th freedom tickets on the route as well, DOH-MBA-DAR-MBA-DOH.

Yikes.

Quoting Pe@rson (Reply 5):
Absolutely, numerous problems, including protective governments (in most African nations), Infrastructural issues, very high taxation, high facility charges, etc. At the same time, there's some great and exciting opportunities given typically high fares, poor substitution, some pretty fast-growing economies, rising disposable incomes, etc. Anyway, we must wait to see what happens.

And on top of all that, I wonder how much travel you can stimulate in Africa; in a developed/developing economy you can halve the fare and double the traffic let's say, but I'd suspect that in most of Africa lowering the fare significantly would only result in a small increase in traffic. I don't know that there's much pent up demand, and in most places, there isn't demand to shift off of buses or trains such as in Brazil/Mexico/India, because they simply don't exist. Going from a bush taxi or a river barge to a flight is a huge leap--I don't see where these people are supposed to come from.



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