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DL B763ER Interior Mods Schedule?  
User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 461 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 11083 times:

As the previous thread has been archived, I'll start this again.
There seems to have been a delay in ship #1602 (N1602) being completed as it has been at HAECO in HKG for two months now, which is 2-3 weeks longer than most of the previous aircraft have taken to be modded.
Also ship #174 (N174DN) has been out of service since Nov 3rd and ship #191 arrived in SIN (QPG?) on Nov 12. Is DL using QPG as a second line for the B763ERs now that the B744s have been completed (though N661US is at QPG for more mods, having already been partially done in PEK)?
Also ship #1607 (N1607B), which has already been modded, has been at QPG since Oct 20th; is it there for International WiFi installation? Answers please DL Flight Ops!

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User currently offlineplateman From United States of America, joined May 2007, 923 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 11098 times:

I'm flying DL107 in early March and very confused ... the seatmap you can select seats on has BE as 1-2-1, indicating a refresh cabin and PTV in Y.

But the 'view seats' during booking has 2-2-2 767L and says overhead TV in Y. Anyone have any tips to figure it out? I'm in Y.



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User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11095 times:

Ship #1602 (N1602) has managed to find it's way to ATL without showing up on FlightAware as having done any scheduled flights getting there! I wonder if it was ferried all the way; it certainly didn't fly from HKG-NRT-SFO-ATL as the last few modded aircraft have done. It's flights today are from ATL-JFK-FRA.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1602


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11091 times:

Ship #1603 (N1603) may be the next one to go into mods to replace ship #1602. It last flew from ATL-SFO on Nov 14th and according to FlightAware it hasn't flown since.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1603


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 11087 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 2):

It ferried HKG-ANC-ATL on the 18th.



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User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 11085 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 4):

Thanks for the update! Any further information about my opening thread would be greatly appreciated also!


User currently offlinen515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 406 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 11098 times:

Quoting audidudi (Thread starter):
Also ship #174 (N174DN) has been out of service since Nov 3rd and ship #191 arrived in SIN (QPG?) on Nov 12.
Quoting audidudi (Reply 2):
Ship #1602 (N1602) has managed to find it's way to ATL without showing up on FlightAware as having done any scheduled flights getting there
Quoting audidudi (Reply 3):
hip #1603 (N1603) may be the next one to go into mods to replace ship #1602. It last flew from ATL-SFO on Nov 14th and according to FlightAware it hasn't flown since.
Quoting timf (Reply 7):
1705 has been completed, not 175. Also, 1605 and 1606 have been out of service since mid-October, presumably in mods.

[Corrected] Totals include aircraft in for mods:

76G C30W38Y140
All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 0/0 (0%)

76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 171-172, 174-186, 1200-1201, 1601-1606, 1701-1708 [31 aircraft]
Completed: 1601-3, 174, 182, 1200-1201, 1605-6, 1705 - 11/31 (35.5%)

76T C36W29Y143
All Ships: 1607-1613 [7 aircraft]
Completed: 100%

76Z C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
All Ships: 187-199 [13 aircraft]
Completed: 191, 199 - 2/13 (15.4%)

Total Complete: 20/58 (34.5%)

[Edited 2012-11-20 12:08:16]

User currently offlinetimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 970 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 11087 times:
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Quoting n515cr (Reply 6):
Completed: 1601-3, 174-175, 182, 1200-1201 - 9/31 (29.0%)

1705 has been completed, not 175. Also, 1605 and 1606 have been out of service since mid-October, presumably in mods.


User currently offlinen471wn From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1561 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 11089 times:
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When is N173DN coming out of storage?

User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 461 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10831 times:

So after five weeks at QPG, ship #1607 (N1607B) has finished it's mysterious visit there and is scheduled to fly out today to SIN and from there to NRT or be ferried to ANC-ATL presumably. But we have been unable to get any help here from DL Flight Ops contacts as to why it was in QPG in the first place. I have previously suggested that it might have been for the installation of International WiFi........oh well I'm sure we'll all find out eventually! In the meantime, FlightAware will undoubtedly update it's progress home!
Meanwhile it appears that ship #1603 (N1603) is replacing #1607 as it's on it's way to SIN, then presumably to QPG.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1607B

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N1603

[Edited 2012-11-24 04:21:44]

User currently onlinerj777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1861 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day ago) and read 10460 times:

What's the difference between 76G, 76L, 76T, and 76Z?

User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 23 hours ago) and read 10391 times:

Quoting rj777 (Reply 10):
What's the difference between 76G, 76L, 76T, and 76Z?

76G: 6 doors; high density config
76L: 4 doors; run of the mill 763ER
76T: 4 doors; 12-hour missions (lower lobe pilot crew rest)
76Z: 4 doors; high density config

Note all a/c will have a lower lobe F/A crew rest, flat-bed business elite seats with direct aisle access, nose-to-tail AVOD, reconfigured ATLAS galleys, etc.



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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6573 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 22 hours ago) and read 10385 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 11):
76G: 6 doors; high density config
76L: 4 doors; run of the mill 763ER
76T: 4 doors; 12-hour missions (lower lobe pilot crew rest)
76Z: 4 doors; high density config

Note all a/c will have a lower lobe F/A crew rest, flat-bed business elite seats with direct aisle access, nose-to-tail AVOD, reconfigured ATLAS galleys, etc.

FYI, the 76Gs after mods will also be designated as 76Z and will have the same number of seats in both cabins as the rest of the 76Z fleet, with the only difference being the exit layouts.



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User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 22 hours ago) and read 10371 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 12):
FYI, the 76Gs after mods will also be designated as 76Z and will have the same number of seats in both cabins as the rest of the 76Z fleet, with the only difference being the exit layouts.

Cabin layout in Y will be SLIGHTLY different but yes

[Edited 2012-11-24 20:56:45]


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User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7553 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 21 hours ago) and read 10285 times:

I just flew on N182DL the other day, it's had been flying ATL-STR-ATL almost everyday for the past week. Flat beds were pretty comfortable coming back from STR.


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User currently onlinerj777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1861 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 9959 times:

Does anybody know which type does the JFK-BCN run?

User currently offlineklkla From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 937 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 9678 times:

Quoting rj777 (Reply 15):
Does anybody know which type does the JFK-BCN run?

I was just checking that yesterday and it was showing the old 767-300 with recliner seats in BE  


User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2193 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 9585 times:

Quoting 1337Delta764 (Reply 12):
FYI, the 76Gs after mods will also be designated as 76Z and will have the same number of seats in both cabins as the rest of the 76Z fleet, with the only difference being the exit layouts.

How many seats will be in each cabin?

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 13):
Cabin layout in Y will be SLIGHTLY different but yes

Other than the door location how will the 76Z/old 76G differ than the six door 76Z?


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 9444 times:

Quoting akelley728 (Reply 17):
How many seats will be in each cabin?

26 in Business Elite and 200 in steerage.

Quoting akelley728 (Reply 17):
Other than the door location how will the 76Z/old 76G differ than the six door 76Z?

If you're asking how will the 6-door 76Z differ from the 4-door 76Z then it's a slight variation in the seat patten in the front portion of the Y cabin. DL doesn't use the L2 door for boarding on the 76ERs but just for reference if you were to walk on the a/c at L2 the first thing you will hit turning right to get to your seat would be a set of lavs in the middle of the cabin; 2 rows of 2-2 seats on each side. On the 4 door 76Zs the lavs are about 7 rows back into coach.

[Edited 2012-11-26 23:13:51]


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User currently onlinerj777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1861 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 9323 times:

Quoting klkla (Reply 16):

I hope that changes by next july

Quoting klkla (Reply 16):
I was just checking that yesterday and it was showing the old 767-300 with recliner seats in BE

I hope that changes by next july since I might be going that way and I'm going to want my own entertainment!


User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2193 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 9234 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 18):
26 in Business Elite and 200 in steerage.

Thanks - so both flavors of the 76Z will have 29 EC and 171 standard Y?


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4927 posts, RR: 25
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 9220 times:
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Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 18):
DL doesn't use the L2 door for boarding on the 76ERs

I have boarded through L2 on the 76Gs in ATL (IIRC, at gate E1 once for an ATL-ZRH flight).

Quoting rj777 (Reply 15):
Does anybody know which type does the JFK-BCN run?

Currently in the winter, it is run with the non-refurbed 763ERs. The spring/summer equipment is far from finalized for now - it is currently defaulted to a 763, but DL has been using thed A330-300s on JFK-BCN for the past few summers now.

Quoting timf (Reply 7):
Also, 1605 and 1606 have been out of service since mid-October, presumably in mods.

Ship 1605 should be done now; it is scheduled to operate DL618 NRT-SFO tomorrow (Wed Nov 28). Seatmap for flight has been updated to reflect the new 1-2-1 config in Business.


User currently offlineFlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 7004 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 9144 times:

Quoting akelley728 (Reply 20):
Thanks - so both flavors of the 76Z will have 29 EC and 171 standard Y?

Exactly.

Quoting panamair (Reply 21):
I have boarded through L2 on the 76Gs in ATL (IIRC, at gate E1 once for an ATL-ZRH flight).

Interesting.

I'd never seen it personally and didn't think it was something they did.



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User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 947 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 9063 times:

Are the 76Qs (NonER 763s) going into interior mods now that most of the 763ERs are done?

As I posted in the PHX thread I worked the ferry flight of tail 125 to ANC and from ANC the plane will go on to SIN, where the mods are being done, correct?



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User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6573 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 9067 times:

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 23):
Are the 76Qs (NonER 763s) going into interior mods now that most of the 763ERs are done?

As I posted in the PHX thread I worked the ferry flight of tail 125 to ANC and from ANC the plane will go on to SIN, where the mods are being done, correct?

The 76Qs already have AVOD. However, if you mean the new bins, panels, and lavatories, no they will not be getting such mods since they are planned to be retired soon. However, it has been stated that DL will be keeping the 76Ps (ETOPS domestic 763s, ships 1401-1404) for the Hawaii routes. However, I don't expect them to get such mods either anytime soon.



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25 dlramp4life : Ok, then what other reason would it go to SIN? Putting it in storage?
26 audidudi : If the domestic B763 fleet are not getting the interior mods, then what on earth is ship #125 (N125DL) going to SIN/QPG for?
27 akelley728 : What is the range of these four birds? Since they are ETOPS could they do JFK-LHR?
28 1337Delta764 : Yes, but since they don't have a BusinessElite cabin, I don't see DL deploying them on such route. They will probably mainly be used on LAX/SLC-HNL,
29 akelley728 : I realize that. I was entertaining the thought that Delta could update the cabins of the 76Ps to the high-density 76Z layout, giving all of the 767s
30 dlramp4life : So still no info why the 76Q, ship 125, went to SIN???
31 FlyASAGuy2005 : The 76Qs are not getting interior mods. Let's be clear about that. It's actually in NRT. Scheduled for SIN tomorrow. Let's not get too excited. It's g
32 n471wn : Again I ask-----when is N173DN going to leave the desert?
33 dlramp4life : Thanks for the info. Did not know heavy mx was done in SIN as well.
34 FlyASAGuy2005 : Never said it was the there for an HMV. Just some stuff that will require it to be offline for a while. 767 HMVs are done in China.[Edited 2012-11-28
35 audidudi : What are these "several maintenance items that are being looked at that" that couldn't be done by Tech Ops in ATL, or at least closer to the mainland
36 Post contains images lotpilot16 : Does anybody have any information regarding the aircraft operating the ORD-CDG-ORD route? Currently it is showing as a B76L, any chance it will be swa
37 audidudi : It all depends on when you are travelling. All the B763ERs will be modded by early to mid 2013 according to what I've read.
38 panamair : Nope. The current schedule calls for 43 of the 58 763ERs to be done by June 2013. This will still leave 15 to be done Fall 2013 through January 2014
39 lotpilot16 : I'll be travelling on 23 Dec. I doubt it would be swapped, but I can only hope!
40 FlyASAGuy2005 : That's digging a little too deep. They sent it to SIN for a reason. That's a little above my head. Specifically why SIN and not TechOps or SEA or NRT
41 TR1 : What is the possibility of additional aircraft being modified to the 76Z configuration? It seems that this current economic environment of high fuel c
42 FlyASAGuy2005 : As of right now it's not scheduled to be returned so most likely it's going to sit until they need it. When that is, who knows. It's most likely do f
43 audidudi : It was also painted into the current colours almost two years ago and then sent straight back to the desert again! It's almost like DL had plans for
44 panamair : Ship 1606 (N16065) is now done with mods and is scheduled to fly NRT-SFO tomorrow (Dec 1). This will be #16 of 58 completed (28% of fleet).
45 akelley728 : On the 4-door 76Z will there be a hard divider / bulkhead between Business Elite and Economy? Also do the four-door 76Z have the 2 rows of 2-2 seats
46 n471wn : Thanks so much for this answer----it just did not make sense for it to be there for so long!!
47 FlyASAGuy2005 : Yes and yes. BTW, you won't find soft dividers on any international a/c.
48 Post contains links audidudi : Here's the most recent photo of ship #173 (N173DN) taken at VCV on Aug 4th 2012. http://airteamimages.com/boeing-767_..._delta-air-lines_157042_large
49 Post contains links SR117 : Interesting tidbit from yesterday, the first of the fore-mentioned 763s with the 2 forward of the wing exits (N394DL, the ex-Asiana bird) flew to Nari
50 Post contains images flyabr : Gosh I hope the ATL-DUB route next September will have a refurbished bird!!
51 DTWLAX : What aircraft will be operating ATL-MAN on Dec 22? Will it be with refurbished interiors and PTV in Y? What about MAN-ATL on Dec. 30?
52 Deltal1011man : The 76P/Q are in a true domestic config. The Y seats are the same Weber model on the 737s, the F seat is IIRC the same as the 737s also. and they won
53 FlyASAGuy2005 : Standard 76G, sorry.
54 cv880 : FWIW, delta.com shows modified 767's on SFO-NRT flights as of Feb1.
55 audidudi : Ship #174 (N174DN) is the latest to be modded and is operating DL 618 NRT-SFO tomorrow (Dec 19th). An interesting observation is that it has been comp
56 Post contains images B727FA : I think it's in for the "stealth mod" to make it disappear on FlightAware so people stop obsessing with it.
57 n515cr : 76G C30W38Y140 All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft] Completed or in Mod: 0/0 (0%) 76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest) All Ships:
58 SR117 : N394DL went to Asia on December 8th. I would assume it's getting the new seats.
59 n515cr : 76G C30W38Y140 All Ships: 1501-6, 1521 [7 aircraft] Completed or in Mod: 1521* = 1/7 (14.3%) 76L C36W32Y143 (*35 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
60 akelley728 : This is incorrect. The 76G is also going to have the 76Z configuration of C26W29Y171 (*25 Business for sale, 1 for crew rest)
61 rj777 : Well, looks like the non-stop ATL-BCN goes to A330 effective end of March.
62 BDL757 : How come the 76T will have 3 less seats in Y than the 76L?
63 Post contains images lotpilot16 : Would you be able to tell me if DL593 CDG-ORD on 23 Dec will be refurbished or the 76G? Thanks in advanced!
64 panamair : The 76T has separate pilot rest bunk facilities whereas the 76Ls don't. The pilot rest seat on the 76L will be a BusinessElite seat instead; so there
65 pqdtw : The schedule is showing as a generic 76ER, which means it is not a 76T that day. I originally posted that it was a 76T, but I accidentally looked up
66 ericaasen : Well, 593/592 was operated with a 76T ship 1611 today. It was an equipment swap so you might get lucky.
67 Post contains images lotpilot16 : Thank you! Hope I get lucky!!
68 burnsie28 : Mods have been done in QPG, that is where most of the 744's were done.
69 audidudi : But it was previously modded by HAECO in HKG, so you haven't answered the question as to why ships #1607 and now #1608 have now gone to QPG. For what
70 audidudi : DL593 from CDG-ORD on Dec 23rd is being operated by ship #1705 (N175DZ), so you got an early Xmas present of a modded aircraft!
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