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Australian Aviation Thread # 66  
User currently offlineQF175 From Portugal, joined Mar 2007, 703 posts, RR: 2
Posted (2 years 1 month 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 26151 times:

G'day and welcome to the Australian Aviation Thread # 66. In the previous thread, the following points were discussed/raised:

* China Eastern Airlines makes surprise announcement - Cairns service to become year round in 2013
* Brisbane Airport RWY01/19 overlay works
* Brindabella Airlines announces it will base a J41 in Sydney
* Malaysia Airlines operates 747 and 330 charter flights through Rockhampton
* Emirates inaugurates Adelaide services
* Perth Airport redevelopment
* Air China to upgrade SYD services to 77W in December
* Second Sydney Airport talk
* Qantas to take delivery of a new A330 later this month which will feature a oneworld livery
* United Airlines services to Australia
* Korean Airlines confirms it will suspend Melbourne services in March 2013
* Jetgo takes delivery of its second ERJ 135
* Melbourne Airport passenger leakage to other Airports
* Qantas announces a $100m share buyback
* Emirates alludes to A380 services to Perth commencing 2013
* Brisbane storms and a spectacular photo of a lightning strike
* Brindabella Airlines to offer Sydney-Moree services from March 2013 (replacing QantasLink)
* REX successfully retained sole operation rights on its 8 subsidised intra-NSW routes
* Brisbane and tag on flights
* Qantas and its impending Dubai services
* Dixon and Co setting sights on a Qantas takeover
* Virgin Australia AGM and CEO John Borghetti's remuneration package
* Singapore Airlines and Virgin Australia announce codeshare expansion
* QF108 air turnback - LAX
* Melbourne Airport and its planned third runway
* Qantas aircraft now sporting the revised livery
* Perth set to receive Australia's first scheduled/regular 787 services (Qatar Airways)
* C-17 flyover of Brisbane and the Gold Coast
* Garuda Indonesia confirms Brisbane - Denpasar (Bali) and Jakarta services from August 2013

Australian Aviation Thread # 65

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User currently offlineQF175 From Portugal, joined Mar 2007, 703 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 26170 times:

* Air New Zealand has confirmed a second season of nonstop flights between the Sunshine Coast (Maroochydore) and Auckland in response to high demand through this year's season. Services in 2013 will continue to operate twice weekly, however flights will operate for a period of 17 weeks (this year's flying program saw flights over a 12 week period)

* VH-ZPE, Virgin Australia's second E190 fitted with the new Business Class product re-entered service today. The Aircraft joins VH-ZPK as aircraft fitted with 6J class seats. VH-ZPA will have the reconfiguration carried out over the coming days

* QantasLink's first reconfigured 717-200 VH-NXH re-entered service today. The Aircraft features a new 125Y configuration along with:

Quote:
New ergonomically-designed seats will provide customers with increased levels of comfort featuring:
* A top-mounted magazine box to maximise legroom;
* An additional seat pocket ideal for the storage of personal electronic devices;
* An adjustable headrest; and
* A sliding tray table.


User currently offlinexiaotung From New Zealand, joined Jan 2006, 884 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 26053 times:

No one seems to have picked up MU starting thrice weekly Beijing-Nanjing-Sydney route from 21 December.

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5015 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 26032 times:

Quoting xiaotung (Reply 2):

It's been discussed already Australian Aviation Thread # 65 (by QF175 Nov 5 2012 in Civil Aviation)

EK413



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User currently offlineFuling From Australia, joined Apr 2011, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 25526 times:

Quoting QF175 (Reply 1):
QantasLink's first reconfigured 717-200 VH-NXH re-entered service today. The Aircraft features a new 125Y configuration along with:

Are these new seats similar to what LH and a few other carriers have? Any photos out there?


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5015 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 25368 times:

Quoting Fuling (Reply 4):
Are these new seats similar to what LH and a few other carriers have? Any photos out there?

The photo's in the link below show the new configuration and also gives you an idea of what the slimline seats would look like on the B717 fleet...

http://www.ausbt.com.au/qantaslink-d...ng-717-slim-seats-but-more-of-them

EK413



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User currently offlineQF762 From Australia, joined Apr 2008, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 24841 times:


I can't believe they've added an extra two rows, even with the slimline seats the pitch should be quite a bit tighter...? The removal of the 3rd lav makes sense though. Although what is the "crew use only" that replaces it?



Also, Tiger is celebrating it's 5th anniversary with various promotional bits and pieces and is apparentl;y approaching their 10 millionth passenger flown.

http://australianaviation.com.au/2012/11/oneworld-qantas-a330-arrives/

Edited to post links and Tiger comment.

[Edited 2012-11-26 14:58:23]

From May next year Australian Aviation is reporting that QF will operate A330s on all weekday flights between PER and SYD/MEL. After searching a random week in June there were 7 daily (weekday) returns between SYD-PER and 8 daily (weekday) returns between MEL-PER all using a mix of A330 and B767 aircraft. I find it interesting that they said A330s only inteh article, but presumably meant wide-bodies only. (Which by then all the B767s should have the refreshed interiors).

Quoting EK413 (Reply 5):
The photo's in the link below show the new configuration and also gives you an idea of what the slimline seats would look like on the B717 fleet...
User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5952 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 1 day ago) and read 24813 times:

Quoting QF762 (Reply 6):
the pitch should be quite a bit tighter...

It would appear that they're adding one row each side of the wing. With the narrower seat backs and moving the magazine rack to the top of the seat I wouldn't expect the seat pitch to feel much different, no more than half an inch.



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User currently offlineDitzyboy From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 725 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 3 hours ago) and read 24417 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 7):
It would appear that they're adding one row each side of the wing. With the narrower seat backs and moving the magazine rack to the top of the seat I wouldn't expect the seat pitch to feel much different, no more than half an inch.

The QantasLink/Impulse 717s with the ex-TWA slimline seats (VQF-K at the time) were converted to the Jetstar 125Y layout 6-8 weeks before the launch of Jetstar and no one noticed. At the time I remember thinking it felt as if it had the same level of comfort as the 73Hs.


User currently offlineeaglefarm4 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 24289 times:

Hawaiian Airlines innaugral flight to BNE is on it's way this time.

N588HA appears to be the aircraft a 767-300 with winglets.

ETA BNE is 1540 local.


User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 3036 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 24026 times:

Quoting eaglefarm4 (Reply 9):
Hawaiian Airlines innaugral flight to BNE is on it's way this time.

Good news.

It will certainly be a big couple of months on the HNL routes with HA adding BNE and JQ adding MEL next month.


User currently offlineQF175 From Portugal, joined Mar 2007, 703 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (2 years 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 23990 times:

Welcome to Brisbane Hawaiian Airlines!  

Nice to see an Airline on the route once again after Air Australia's demise in February of this year.

http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/12558_463658840362945_1887803813_n.jpg
Image source - BNE Airport Facebook page

http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/465655_10151192983038505_1480433066_o.jpg
Image source - Hawaiian Airlines Facebook page

[Edited 2012-11-28 01:20:23]

User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5015 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 23472 times:

Finally the 1st of 7 ex-BA B763 in the QF fleet is heading to the desert this month...

 

EK413



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User currently offlineZuluAlpha From Thailand, joined Mar 2010, 420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 22918 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 12):

Finally the 1st of 7 ex-BA B763 in the QF fleet is heading to the desert this month...

And the planned ex-BA B763 is VH-ZXB. It has a planned departure date from Australia on 11Dec12. at 0800hrs ex SYD flying to HNL with an overnight stop-over in HNL then the following morning to VCV to arrive into VCV on 12Dec to arrive into VCV @ 1420 hrs.



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User currently offlineTN486 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 942 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 22522 times:

Spending some time "spotting" on Flightradar24 this evening and noticed the QF44 AKL to SYD diverted to MEL earlier in the evening (lots of doughnuts in the sky around all flightpaths into SYD at that time).then noticed QF44 making a fastrun up to SYD, on approach down to 1800ft then a very quick climbout (time is now 2300 - curfew time!!), out to sea and currently at 24000 heading south again. Assuming Flightradar24 has got this tagged correctly, maybe some very unhappy guests on board, they still wont see SYD tonight. I suspect ac is back on its way to MEL.

[Edited 2012-12-02 04:23:16]


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User currently offlineTN486 From Australia, joined Jul 2008, 942 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 22505 times:

Quoting TN486 (Reply 14):
Spending some time "spott

QF 44 arrived MEL 2111, dep for SYD approx 2200, missed curfew at SYD (2300) and now ETA MEL 0010. This curfew is an absolute farce! That ac got down to 1900 ft on approach to SYD!!



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5015 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 22473 times:

The QF44 ain't the only diversion... There was 2 other diversions tonight both to CBR...

EK413



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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 3020 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 22373 times:

Quoting TN486 (Reply 14):
Quoting TN486 (Reply 15):
Quoting EK413 (Reply 16):

It's a shame that CBR can't take flights from AKL -- they would have easily made it into SYD had they diverted there instead.


User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5015 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 22225 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 17):

I guess that raises the 2nd airport question yet again, why not grant CBR custom clearance etc for international diversions... In this scenario the flight was from AKL, aren't Australia and New Zealand flights proposed to be handled as domestic flights in the foreseeable future...?

EK413



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User currently offlineSYDSpotter From Australia, joined Oct 2012, 260 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 22207 times:

Quoting EK413 (Reply 18):
In this scenario the flight was from AKL, aren't Australia and New Zealand flights proposed to be handled as domestic flights in the foreseeable future...?

Yes that was the plan, but nothing has come of it yet.

I think there needs to be a bit of commonsense applied to the curfew sometimes, to make an aircraft turn back when it is minutes away is stupidity. Some flexibility should be allowed, blatant breaches of course are another story.



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5015 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 22166 times:

Quoting SYDSpotter (Reply 19):

Under last night circumstances the curfew rules could've been pushed aside & aircraft given clearance... The weather played a role in the diversions therefore clearance should've been granted considering the aircraft was minutes away from touchdown... It's an absolute joke...

EK413



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User currently offlineDitzyboy From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 725 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 22137 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 17):
It's a shame that CBR can't take flights from AKL

Why do you say that?


User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5952 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 22082 times:

Quoting Ditzyboy (Reply 21):
Why do you say that?

Because if it had departed from CBR it would have made it to SYD before 23:00 due to the shorter flight.

Also, even if it had overnighted they could just hirer a few buses and get people to SYD by 1 am, rather than have to overnight them in hotels.



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User currently offlineEK413 From Australia, joined Nov 2003, 5015 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 21993 times:

Quoting Ditzyboy (Reply 21):

I believe he was pointing out how CBR can not accept International flights... I've been under the impression CBR was going to be converted into an Domestic / International airport if not already has been granted permission...
Didn't Obama or Princess Charles fly directly into CBR during their recent visit down under...?

EK413



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User currently offlineDitzyboy From Australia, joined Feb 2008, 725 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 21934 times:

Canberra has accepted international diversions before. I can think of a Qantas 747 a few years ago. Perhaps in this case they were not confident of being able to head back to Sydney for another go?

A Jetconnect 737 has diverted to East Sale, but that was due to a medical.


25 RyanairGuru : CBR has had regularly scheduled flights to NAN before (not that they lasted long!) although I'm not sure how they were handled. CBR doesn't have a "s
26 Post contains images EK413 : Any indication as to when the NEW terminal will become operational...? I love the design, sleek & modern... What makes them any different from yo
27 qf002 : What is happening with that? It makes so much sense, even if they just agreed on some kind of pre-clearance system that would allow passengers to arr
28 RyanairGuru : Further to my own post, these flight technically go to RAAF Fairbairn rather than Canberra International Airport. I realise that this is a technicali
29 EK413 : On a far more serious note the rules and regulations surrounding the curfew @ SYD need reviewing... Why are airlines & their passengers being inco
30 Ditzyboy : I have worked flights in the past where we have landed after 2300 due to a lifting of the curfew where it was due to weather and all carriers had bee
31 RyanairGuru : I believe the biggest issue is quarantine, both countries are paranoid about what unsavoury things may end up there. This even applies to Trans-Tasma
32 EK413 : I recall this happening on a few occasions too and the airlines have been fined to top it off, from memory CZ, CX, EK just to name a few while QF opt
33 Post contains images Quokkas : In the case of the Queen that is just as well. As HM doesn't have a passport she would be immediately arrested for trying to enter the country withou
34 Post contains images RyanairGuru : Well hopefully she never decides to cruise down on the Queen Mary, that would surely make her "irregular maritime arrival" Of course, the Queen aside
35 sydscott : I was in the taxi line at the QF domestic terminal at 2300 and saw a 737 flying low over the airport on a right hand turn out to sea. Was wondering w
36 EK413 : That would've been an impressive sighting too, however not from a passenger perspective onboard the flight executing the go around... EK413
37 Ditzyboy : The aircraft would have been making more noise than if it had just gone ahead and landed. Ludicrous!
38 EK413 : Politicians and their curfew policy can go jump as far as I am concerned! Clearance to land should've been granted... EK413[Edited 2012-12-02 23:57:3
39 Post contains images a36001 : It must of been tempting for the crew to gun the throttles and make as much noise as they could on climb out! I would of.....HA and I live in Newtown!
40 QF762 : Isn't 9 cabin crew quite a lot for an international B767-300ER flight? I remember on my AC flight to HNL from SYD back in 2006 there were 7 cabin cre
41 EK413 : Correct, it's usually 3 tech crew and 7 cabin but probably course the flight was the inaugural HA operated with 9 crew... Qantas did the same with th
42 TN486 : The climbout was in fact fast AND steep, so you may not be Robinson Crusoe in your thinking.
43 Post contains links EK413 : Well I thought I'd dig up the status of the CBR terminal works... Source http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=349537&page=29 $420 milli
44 Post contains images RyanairGuru : Is that it? Woden Plaza feels pretty cramped inside, so doesn't inspire me with much confidence! That said, everything we've seen so far has been exc
45 sydscott : I actually thought it was a missed approach it was so low. I would have been pissed if I was a passenger on there!
46 EK413 : Over all the terminal design is nice and sleek... I love it... Wish SYD could have a similar terminal, however on a larger scale... That would make 2
47 NZ107 : Wouldn't work - one could easily pick up an apple (could be fresh or could be rotten and have fruit flies) or other such items in the lounge/in the t
48 Post contains links SYDSpotter : There is an article in today's SMH outlining the growing Intl presence on Virgin's share registry: http://www.smh.com.au/business/airli...-virgin-stak
49 tullamarine : No, following the restructure of the VA companies, the listed company only covers the domestic airline and that is not subject to foreign ownership l
50 gemuser : OK, WHAT RESTRUCTURE? I've asked this before but got no answer. People keep referring to this, BUT I have seen nothing on it! (I could have easily mi
51 Post contains links RyanairGuru : Virgin Australia Holdings has split into two separate corporate bodies, each with an individual legal personality: Virgin Australia Holdings and Virg
52 gemuser : Thank you! At least that's something. Gemuser
53 EK413 : Let's not forget this is why QF ain't happy... The flexibility VA have over QF... EK413
54 sydscott : And because they can't do the same because of the Qantas Sale Act. Otherwise I'm sure QF would re-structure to drive their share price higher.
55 BonzoLab : Hi all can anyone tell me why QF121 SYD-ZQN diverted to NZCH on Dec 5th? Cheers
56 Zkpilot : Whats the deal with arrivals landside at MEL? It went from being alright to being a complete shambles now. Absolutely no room to move about inside the
57 EK413 : I believe it diverted due to navigational equipment... On a positive note Saturday's QF3 SYD-HNL service has been upgraded from B763 to an A333... An
58 sydscott : I wonder if we will see this more often on this route over the Dec/Jan peak travel period.
59 EK413 : I hope it's a permanent upgrade to be honest... It's great to see the QF A333 on the Honolulu route & probably should add the QF583 has been down
60 qf002 : Checked luggage can be screened for customs clearance very easily (ie the same sort of thing as bags that connect onto domestic flights and just get
61 Post contains links bjwonline : QF News boasts that from May next year all SYD-PER and MEL-PER flights will be on A330. Obviously the news releases sells it as something amazing but
62 EK413 : Definitely not a charter Saturday's upgrade is a scheduled QF3 opposed to September which I believe operated as QF6003 (I can't recall exact flight n
63 SYDSpotter : Yes I guess so, no more 747's and no more 738's either which will be a relief to most people (I travelled in the middle seat in a 738 to Perth a whil
64 sydscott : The press release states that with the delivery of the newest A332, QF have 9 A330's flying domestically. That's 5 in domestic config and the other 4
65 MilesDependent : Just wondering... Do the QF tech and cabin crew who fly domestic 332s also operate the 332 international sectors? Or do QF have separate short and lon
66 RyanairGuru : I think that you are describing the Hawaii model I referred to. I agree that, if workable, this would be best. UA-CA style pre-clearance, however, wo
67 thegeek : Didn't know there was an ADL base. Is it new? I presume cabin crew only.
68 Post contains links Ditzyboy : You are quite close. SH cabin crew can be rostered up to 14 hours total planned/rostered duty time on regional international trips. Noumea, NZ, Denpa
69 skyhawkmatthew : At about 3:50 this afternoon I saw a completely white A340 on final for 16R in Sydney. Does anyone know what this aircraft is/what it was doing?
70 eta unknown : HiFly A340 CS-TQM, leased by Adagold for Australian Govt. military charters. Usual routing 2x/week is BNE-SYD-DRW-Minhad Aif Force Base in Dubai. The
71 EK413 : Cheers... Would appear the A333 has replaced the regular B763 due to the 1st B763 under going Q Stream fit out... EK413
72 VH-BZF : Don't forget the Hawaii marathon is on as well so this may have generated some additional pax? Great to see the A330 across the pacific in QF colours
73 EK413 : International B763 (typo) I hope it's a permanent sub once the B763 fleet refurbishment is complete... EK413
74 skyhawkmatthew : Thanks! Thought it must have been something like that.
75 thegeek : BITRE stats for Sep: SYD->DFW 10289, 94% LF DFW->BNE 5049 DFW->SYD 2767 72% LF westbound ignoring blocked seats. Can they get a month with 99
76 RyanairGuru : Thanks for that, I didn't realise that SH could fly up to 14 hour segments. From what you say I take it that SH are now operating a lot less Asia fly
77 Ditzyboy : The 14 hours is inclusive of sign on/report and sign off/release times. 12.5 hours would be the longest block time. ADL-SIN appears to be going back
78 thegeek : Unsurprising if you ask me. I always thought the decision to defer the 13th and 14th A380s was incomprehensible, and still do. Similarly sticking wit
79 RyanairGuru : If SYD-DFW was operated by 787s, then BNE will definitely be mainline. The 94% load factor says it all. While the BNE-DFW O&D market is probably
80 RyanairGuru : Further to my last post, JQ will never fly to DFW. The whole point of the service is QF-AA connections. If you take that out of the equation, then I
81 ZuluAlpha : Can someone help me here .. when are QF due their next A380's. Something in the back of my mind tells me the end of 2013 ?
82 QF15 : The next two A380's are due 2016-17, then the last six are due from 2018-19 onwards, subject to change of course...
83 sunrisevalley : On a 16hr sector time day the 569t / 293t DOW is good for max passenger load . The 450-seat version would allow for some freight. But at 75% load fac
84 thegeek : Good point. I was thinking that would be provided, but if they don't want to do that, they would probably rather channel BNE people via LAX and other
85 EK413 : Speaking of A380's last night's EK413 SYD-DXB service was cancelled... Any idea what happened...? EK413
86 SYDSpotter : Probably some sort of tech issue. Flight is rescheduled for 2pm today.
87 EK413 : Is this the same A380 involved in the engine failure a few weeks ago...? EK413
88 qf002 : I doubt it. Sundays are already operated with a 767 and there seems little point in retaining one aircraft that is so vastly different to the rest of
89 ZuluAlpha : The QF7/QF8 as we all know uses the 744ER, all of them are now reconfigured to 270Y/36W/58J, I have seen where there are as little as 30 seats blocke
90 Flyingsottsman : Is QF still using 763s to HNL from Syd or are they A330s now ?
91 qf002 : Cheers. So assuming that QF can sell up to 305 seats on each flight (though I imagine this average could vary significantly between months with seaso
92 EK413 : The route continues to be served by the International configure B763ER... With 16 frames under going the refurbished cabin and Q Streaming leaves eve
93 vhebb : The 4 international B763s VH-OGR/S/T/U will be getting the upgrade and Q streaming as all 4 frames are included in the 16 to be upgraded. Cheers
94 EK413 : Which probably means; a) The QF3 SYD-HNL route to be upgraded from a B763 to A332/A333 OR b) HNL route capacity increase on the B763 with an extra 5
95 Ditzyboy : OGR has had the QStreaming upgrade, but retains an international configuration. QStreaming is only available on domestic flights at this stage. I assu
96 EK413 : From memory the iPad charging stowage positions are 604, 605 & 606... Don't they block off 2 Y/C seats with the flight sold as 202 Y/C... EK413
97 vhebb : Did VH-OGR get the new side wall panels, curtains, lighting etc?
98 Ditzyboy : The internationally configured aircraft are sold as 204Y. When the tech crew rest is activated the aircraft are sold as 202Y as 25AB become unusable.
99 EK413 : I believe your referring to VH-OGV which is sold as 219Y/C & as for the QF3 ive noticed 2Y/C seats are blocked selling it as 202 not 204... EK413
100 Post contains images ADDICT4QF : QF should fly 1 A380 DXB-LHR-DXB. I don't know how QF have demand for 900pax per day from SYD & MEL wanting to go to LHR as a destination. This ma
101 qf002 : Most passengers flying with QF have LHR as their final destination. Passengers flying to CDG and FCO (which QF cite as the next two most popular citi
102 Ditzyboy : As mentioned, the two Y seats that are blocked are 25AB, which are unavavailable when the tech crew rest is activated. The rear wall of the unit is m
103 EK413 : Thanks for clarifying which seats are blocked in Y/C... EK413
104 NZ107 : And that's what Auckland Airport looked like in real life on Thurs!
105 VH-BZF : Looks as though the late Thai B744 (TG471?) arrival Sunday night diverted into Melbourne and overnighted there, heading up here to Sydney this afterno
106 thegeek : I'm really confused by these comments. I would have said that the figures show that there is indeed demand for a daily A380 SYD-DFW-SYD. SYD is a bet
107 Post contains links EK413 : I believe it's one of three additional services TG will be operating this month... EXTRA TG 744/777 SERVICES MEL will be welcoming back TG 744 servic
108 mah584jr : Hey All, I have a few questions about Qantas domestic. Why are there no seat maps when you are trying to make a booking? If I choose a business fare (
109 Vhqpa : There isn't an option to choose seats during the booking process. However once your ticket is issued you can choose seats in the my bookings section
110 mah584jr : So when you purchase the business fare, will you have the option to choose any seat in the business class cabin?
111 Vhqpa : Provided it isn't already assigned/blocked. Yes Also if your flying on a high frequency route ie. between SYD-MEL/BNE I Don't see why you can't keep
112 Post contains images qf002 : My point is that it is cheaper for QF to fly traffic through BNE wherever possible. BNE-DFW is shorter than SYD-DFW (it's not a massive difference, b
113 EK413 : Approximately 85-90 economy seats are blocked on the DFW-BNE sector... EK413
114 thegeek : Beg to differ. I am sure that the CASK of the A380 on SYD-DFW will brain the 789 on BNE-DFW. SYD also has far more O&D than MEL. Not sure how the
115 SYDSpotter : Hmm interesting suggestion, any idea of what % of passengers on the existing SYD-DFW flight is ex-SYD vs MEL/ADL/PER? Your idea would only work if th
116 RyanairGuru : I'm not, but I can't say definitively That, by your own figures, 168 people per day at present use QF8 who are not going to SYD, shows that their is
117 RyanairGuru : It would appear that way, although in my mind a stop in BNE, which doesn't involve a terminal change, is preferable to LAX, which does. Between minim
118 sunrisevalley : Based on Ferpe's work of a couple of weeks ago it appears that the 789 at 128t DOW on a 16hr 15min day ( based on a one off flight plan for a 77W) DF
119 sydscott : Can I state the obvious, (since I don't think it's been said above), the only reason QF stops in BNE is because it has to. That is why connecting pax
120 EK413 : Correct, the number of blocked seats varies from flight to flight but it's very close to what I provided... EK413
121 Post contains links thegeek : I'm using the city pair info in table 5. This forum seems to not like the link, but click on on " International Airline Activity—Monthly Publicatio
122 thegeek : That's what I think too, but it does seem that there are a number of people who like leaving the flight in BNE. If QF have an aircraft that could do
123 Post contains links EK413 : Would it be possible to operate MEL-DFW & BNE-DFW alongside the LAX services...? Sydney 2nd airport debate... It's on again... There is more than
124 Post contains images qf002 : Perhaps, I don't know. It's irrelevant though if they can generate higher profits by flying more people out of DFW on slightly less efficient aircraf
125 sydscott : MEL-AKL-DFW. That's what I see as the next DFW route to kill 2 birds with 1 stone. According to Great Circle Mapper it's around 7,440 miles still air
126 Post contains links MilesDependent : http://www.smh.com.au/business/jumbo...rget-australia-20121211-2b6vu.html ... Two 777s weekly to Sydney Australia is FiftyOne’s second-largest marke
127 thegeek : I guess, but there's a few ifs in that. And you didn't mention that there also needs to be a demand for cargo at the price required for such a long h
128 sydscott : It depends on what your target market is. Similar to the SYD-DFW, if your target market is US East Coast & South bound travellers, and it's a uni
129 eta unknown : Latest rumour doing the rounds: CZ suspends PER-CAN from early APR 2013.
130 IndianicWorld : That would be a very interesting development, considering it is the only mainland China destination from PER, that they tried for quite a while to ge
131 SYDSpotter : CZ are very much trying to tap into the Oz-Europe market by marketing CAN as a stopover point. So PER was I guess of mix of both the mining connectio
132 EK413 : Would appear PVG have jumped onboard offering a 72 hour visa for transit passengers... Shanghai allows visa-free stay for transit travelers from 45 c
133 Post contains links EK413 : Its official... http://airlineroute.net/2012/12/10/cz-per-s13update/ As per 10DEC12 GDS inventory display, China Southern Airlines has closed reservat
134 IndianicWorld : ^^ That's not official yet. Corrections are often made, and it does state at the end the possibilities for this move. We will need to wait for somethi
135 Post contains images EK413 : Okay, let me return to my man cave until an official report is released... EK413
136 IndianicWorld : ^^ hehe.. Sorry if it came across abruptly. Just stating that that site often makes changes a few days later after the GDS entries are revised. Seen i
137 Flyingsottsman : To everyone on this thread and to all A.netters merry Christmas to you all and I hope you have a happy and safe new year and happy plane spotting in 2
138 Ben175 : It would be hugely disappointing to see CZ pull out of PER, especially seeing as they planned to go daily by the end of the year. I hope atleast it's
139 Post contains links vhebb : Looks like QF are progressing with an Asian expansion and A330 upgrade/refit: http://afr.com/p/business/companies/..._asian_push_X9XxIsj1ZiXazx31wbKvK
140 EK413 : A new business class product offering on the A330s and possibly sourcing a further 5 x A330s... Interesting times ahead with international operations
141 DavidByrne : Years ago QF announced that it would fly AKL-DFW but nothing subsequently came of it.
142 AusA380 : It might be worthwhile looking at the chart in the AFR article. Apart from JetStar Asia, Qantas has either pulled out of Asia or failed to execute a
143 EK413 : I recommend you quote the correct reply ... In the past Alan Joyce has been criticized for his focus on JQ expansion & now it seems cards have ch
144 AusA380 : Sorry EK413, used the autoquote function of the site - will check more closely next time; I agree that he has been too focused on JetStar in Asia, my
145 EK413 : I guess we better find a comfy seat, fasten our seat belts & watch the show... I just hope it pans out in a positive way... EK413
146 Post contains links vhebb : Looks like the retiming of Asia flights will be announced in January with additional flight frequency to be announced later: http://mobile.bloomberg.c
147 sydscott : And the most interesting thing in there is Simon Hickey mentioning Dragonair by name, along with CX, as being the essential connections into China. A
148 Zkpilot : Word on the grapevine is that BNE is going to be dropped in favour of AKL very soon. AKL allows for better payload, better transit for pax, reinstate
149 aerokiwi : To the contrary - I think it makes much more sense than AKL-LAX, where a substantial number of pax are transferring anyway (no idea of the exact figu
150 IndianicWorld : Makes sense. BNE is still a fair way from DFW, which pushes the limits of that sector, and there are numerous connection possibilities from AKL to Au
151 ZK-NBT : Certainly not disagreeing with you although if I recall you have said this before, I do hope you are right from an enthusiasts point of view. While a
152 Ben175 : Any news on the developing rumour of QF/EK starting PER-AKL?
153 QF175 : +1 Qantas Group operated destinations such as ADL, ASP, BME, CBR, CNS, DRW, GLT, HTI, ISA, KTA, LST, PER, PHE, TSV to name a few, as well as the freq
154 Post contains links and images QF175 : This recent article from CAPA is of interest! Article source
155 aerokiwi : Undoubtedly the Qantas withdrawl is the driving factor. The AKL stopover would've added cost, but they maintained it for so long (20 plus years?) tha
156 EK413 : Just witnessed a Eurolantic B772ER at SYD... Is it operating a FJ charter due To the B744 fleet under going maintenance in SIN... EK413
157 qantas747 : Yes, eurolantic are operating for fj. Interesting product, i flew on it a couple of weeks ago. Good ife, good looking portuguese cabin crew and a mode
158 EK413 : Just curious where did Eurolantic source the B772ER...? Is it an ex-SQ aircraft...? EK413
159 tim : Qatar daily 787 Perth-Doha is now bookable on the airlines website for services from Feb 1.[Edited 2012-12-13 02:55:16]
160 PA515 : L/N 144 delivered to SQ in Jun 1998 as 9V-SRA. To EuroAtlantic in Jan 2010 as CS-TFM. PA515
161 CXfirst : Excellent. Finally something concrete from the airline themselves (I've heard other relatively concrete info). Although surprised they haven't made a
162 Ben175 : So glad PER gets bragging rights for the first port for a new aircraft type in Australia! I'll definitely be there when it touches down.
163 EK413 : Cheers... Would explain the excellent IFE onboard the aircraft... Qantas' 3rd refurbished B763 has entered service... The third refurbished Boeing 76
164 Post contains links QF175 : Regional Australia Airline & Airport News There's been a number of announcements and media articles of late concerning Regional Aviation in Austra
165 eaglefarm4 : Eurolantic 777 was replaced yesterday by a Atlas 744 (pax) N465MC.It will now operate for FJ.
166 EK413 : Ex-UA B744 aircraft...? EK413
167 Jetstar315 : No, ex Japan Airlines JA8077 24784/798
168 ZKOKQ : ZK-OKP was in BNE today, here is a shot I got as she was on short finals. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=438520909530673&set=a.2707416929
169 deconz : Excellent picture ZKOKQ
170 Post contains links IndianicWorld : 2 bits of MEL news: http://www.theage.com.au/business/ai...d-in-melbourne-20121218-2bkpi.html Air Canada is considering adding a second Australian des
171 EK413 : I'm surprised there isn't any news concerning EY signing a 3 year deal with TA... Etihad has signed a $6 million partnership with Tourism Australia (T
172 IndianicWorld : Must say I figured it had already been touched on, but it appears it hasn't. Given VA/DJ's move to partner with TA this wasn't a big surprise. It app
173 Post contains links EK413 : A big loss for TA though considering QFs partnership was in the sum of $40+ million... But in saying that it's still a win win situation for all carr
174 ZuluAlpha : In news on the QF / EK partnership, it has been announced today that the first codeshare flights have started with the QF flight number appearing on t
175 6thfreedom : SQ is increasing SIN/MEL to four times daily from 1 July 2013! not quite sure of the schedule yet, but that is BIG news!
176 tayser : Bold = new flight. Easy to remember flight numbers to boot! SQ207 SIN0735 –> 1655MEL 333 Daily SQ217 SIN0955 –> 1915MEL 388 Daily SQ227 SIN2
177 Post contains images IndianicWorld : Loving that numbering. Sure is clever work With CZ also looking at starting flights to EZE via Australia or NZ, lets hope they choose MEL to fly the
178 thegeek : I have not heard this, at least that I can remember. Is there a source/thread?[Edited 2012-12-18 16:45:07]
179 NZ107 : Nor here.. Would they get the rights for it? And do they have a plane which can actually travel that far with restrictions? I want to see a return of
180 EK413 : The QF21 SYD-NRT on the 17th had to divert to CNS... On 17 December a Qantas flight from Sydney to Tokyo diverted to Cairns to offload an unruly passe
181 IndianicWorld : I had heard it recently and then it was in the AFR (Australian Financial Review) a few days back. No idea on rights though, as this was the first thi
182 Post contains links pugsley : Having just spent 27 hours traveling EZE-SCL-SYD-MEL a direct flight would be very welcome. I can't find the AFR article you mention, but look forwar
183 IndianicWorld : The article was about CZ wanting to make CAN a bigger hub, and generating traffic from Sth America, with East Coast Australia or NZ considered options
184 Post contains links pugsley : I finally found it, but as I don't subscribe to AFR, can't access the full article. http://www.afr.com/p/business/compan...antas_niche_m03f2bQGO7UrHX
185 IndianicWorld : Well found. I only get to read the AFR as its available to read at work each day. Some interesting articles from time to time.
186 tullamarine : Another A330 to Melbourne. At least the SQ A330 is a first time visitor joining just about every other Asian carrier as well as VA, QF and JQ
187 Post contains images IndianicWorld : The A330 is taking over the skies in general it seems Its disappointing though that there isn't the same variety that once seemed to exist, but time
188 MilesDependent : Notice QF 8 went DFW AKL BNE SYD again today, no doubt due fuel.... MD
189 Zkpilot : Yup...todays one did, yesterdays one made it to BNE, the day before it went to AKL as well. Time to drop BNE and just route the flight SYD-DFW-AKL-SY
190 EK413 : The diversions are due to strong headwinds & all flights westbound have been weight restricted... EK413
191 eaglefarm4 : QF 108 LAX-SYD was also planned to drop into BNE but did not in the end..
192 ZKOKQ : Why drop BNE? It currently works as the load factors suggest provided by other users. Removing BNE removes ease of transfer for other passengers. Who
193 ZK-NBT : As ZKpilot says its a little unreliable when the aircraft is regularly tech stopping for fuel. It does to a degree yes, from AKL you would still be a
194 qf002 : It doesn't seem to working though. If QF can make more money filling more seats and more cargo space and flying through AKL then that's what they wil
195 ZKOKQ : Thats not what the flight is about. Its about a one stop service to Australia. Not via NZ, add the NZ tag, it removes why they started the flight. Th
196 Post contains images ZK-NBT : True, but thats also why it doesn't work as it surposed to be be DFW-BNE which is at the absolute maximum for the 744ER with a reasonable load. Going
197 ZKOKQ : It doesnt even really divert that much. QF have a good plan in place to make the route work and right now, I think its a success and no need for a ch
198 EK413 : Today's SYD-WLG QF047 service diverted to AKL... Any indication as to why...? EK413
199 Post contains links haggis73 : Fog in WLG, rolled in around 1pm, still there now, hoping it will clear late tomorrow morning. MEL-WLG QF037 also diverted to AKL. http://www.stuff.c
200 TN486 : To all of you who celebrate christmas, have a merry one, and a safe and happy new year. Cheers.
201 IndianicWorld : Thanks man. Same to you and your family also.
202 FlyboyOz : You too everyone!! Hope you had a lovely christmas!
203 Post contains links texan : A few days old but haven't seen it discussed: CASA suspends Barrier Aviation--Cairns-based carrier--due to safety concerns. Texan
204 RyanairGuru : I was on QF8 leaving Dec 22/arr Dec 24 - and indeed had to go via AKL. Wunala went tech there so we enjoyed 7 hours on the ground, but that's a differ
205 Post contains links and images QF175 : Australian Aviation Thread # 67 is now up and running!
206 Flyingsottsman : Thats because this is a Fedral Government that is desprate to stay in power, and Kingford Smith sits in for what has been over the years a safe Labou
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