IAH59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 382 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10311 times:
United will begin a 3rd flight in March, 2013 from IAH to LHR leaving around 8 arriving at 12 in LHR. Will this mean British Airways will step up and add a 3rd flight as well? As of right now both airlines operate 2 daily flights from IAH to LHR.
migair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 1279 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (6 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10291 times:
Quoting IAH59 (Thread starter): United will begin a 3rd flight in March, 2013 from IAH to LHR leaving around 8 arriving at 12 in LHR. Will this mean British Airways will step up and add a 3rd flight as well? As of right now both airlines operate 2 daily flights from IAH to LHR.
UA970 IAH-LHR 20:30-12:05+1 B763ER D
UA971 LHR-IAH 13:05-17:45 B763ER D
I read that between Feb 4th and March 29th United will send B787 on the route, but i´m not sure what flight and what days exactly.
I don´t think BA will add another flight to IAH just to fight United, i´m sure they can do something else with that very difficult to find slot. Maybe the can upgrade the flights to B744 to add some seat. Right now both flights are operated by B777.
IAH59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 382 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (6 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10269 times:
Well I work at IAH and everyday around 4ish a flight leaves on a 777 for BA and at evening time around 6 to 8 a 747 leaves for BA. I read in a article and heard from some United Employees that United is starting a 3rd flight around 8ish from IAH to LHR.
jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 7348 posts, RR: 7 Reply 5, posted (6 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 9666 times:
Houston is getting some old United 767 replacing their Continental 777, what a raw hide of a deal. Suddenly ORD to LHR is getting 777, where did they come from ?
IAH59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 382 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (6 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8776 times:
If the 3rd flight is packed and generate business I hope British Airways will bring a 3rd flight as well. Also Houston number one destination to Europe is London.
Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8754 posts, RR: 52 Reply 12, posted (6 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 8643 times:
Quoting jfk777 (Reply 5):
Houston is getting some old United 767 replacing their Continental 777, what a raw hide of a deal. Suddenly ORD to LHR is getting 777, where did they come from ?
Those UA 767-300s are some of the most comfortable airplanes crossing the Atlantic. Full AVOD, flat business seats, 2-3-2 economy. Other than the 787s I don't know a more comfortable plane. The 767 may be getting older but UAs are great compare to old configuration DL or US 767s.
ORD is losing 747s so there are more 777s to spread around.
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777ord From United States of America, joined May 2010, 355 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (6 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 6047 times:
Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 12): ORD is losing 747s so there are more 777s to spread around.
the 744's are going to SFO so the MX can be improved and ultimately be upgraded per our (UA's) $500m retrofit... Smisek isn't kidding about it being "Spectacular!"
gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 16, posted (6 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 5522 times:
Quoting 777ord (Reply 15): the 744's are going to SFO so the MX can be improved and ultimately be upgraded per our (UA's) $500m retrofit... Smisek isn't kidding about it being "Spectacular!"
Other than streaming video, what's destined for the 747 fleet?
During the $500m announcement not much was said on the 747 front.
VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 6631 posts, RR: 17 Reply 18, posted (6 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 5120 times:
Quoting migair54 (Reply 3): According to BA.com they are now both B777 twinjet, i know that previously it was a B747, but seems than now is B777 only.
However this does nort reflect what is actually happening.
From 1 to !8 November BA194 IAH-LHR was operated on 6 occasions by a 4-class 772 configured either F12 / J48 / W32 / Y127 or F14 / J48 / W40 / Y122. On the other 12 days it was operated by a 77W configured F14 / J56 / W44 / Y183 .
On all of the first 18 days of this month BA196 IAH-LHR was operated by a "Hi J" configured 744. The actual configuration of the 744s used was F14 / J70 / W30 / Y177 on eleven days and F14 / J70 / W30 / Y185 on the other seven days.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16264 posts, RR: 52 Reply 20, posted (6 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4037 times:
Quoting FlyCaledonian (Reply 19):
Alongside United's other LHR flights (all for first week of June)...
UA is not using all their LHR slots, sUA alone I believe have 18 take off and landing slots at LHR. Plus the ones sCO brought to the merger. If the economy improves CLE-LHR and DEN-LHR would be nice (re)additions.
klwright69 From Saudi Arabia, joined Jan 2000, 1787 posts, RR: 3 Reply 21, posted (6 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3876 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 20): Quoting FlyCaledonian (Reply 19):
Alongside United's other LHR flights (all for first week of June)...
UA is not using all their LHR slots, sUA alone I believe have 18 take off and landing slots at LHR. Plus the ones sCO brought to the merger. If the economy improves CLE-LHR and DEN-LHR would be nice (re)additions.
I couldn't agree more. However I think UA would rather add additional flights from their big international gateways instead. But DEN-LHR would be more likely than CLE.
I believe you got it mixed up. IAH and EWR flights utilize T4 and the rest of sUA flights use T1. The combining of all UA flights under one roof probably will not happen until T2 is complete. I had asked on another thread whether the refurbished sUA 763s would use T1, but it seems that all IAH flights will be out of T4, no matter type of plane.
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25 Schweigend: Thanks, Aznmadsci, I did reverse things! sUA flights are T-1 and sCO T-4. Owww! So, then, these sUA 763s could go to T-4? I'm guessing that UA's divis
26 shanderawx: Doesn't UA recognize that there over 80 French firms in Houston connected with the petrochemical and geo-exploration industries, supporting an educate
27 IAH59: I think it was dumb of them for taking Paris out and switching to SFO I think . Delta should move to Terminal D in Houston where all the skyteam membe
28 greenair727: Perhaps, though CLE-LHR makes more sense.
29 par13del: So the only one loosing money on this decision is the city on landing fees and tourist, was the route subsidized by the city or was UA doing this rou
30 skipness1E: It was dumped by CO back in summer 2009 after a single season at LHR after the move from LGW. It was summer only.
31 greenair727: ^That's true. With a global recession there was a global contraction of routes. The withdrawal of CLE-LGW/LHR had more to do with the US-Europe econom
32 CALPSAFltSkeds: This is the same process used in SAN. IAH and EWR flights depart from Terminal 2 and SFO,ORD, IAD, DEN depart from Terminal 1 regardless of which sub
33 VV701: Under the "use-it-or-lose-it" slot regulation (EU 95/93) an airline is required to use any slot in any slot controlled EU airport on at least 80 per
34 Tdan: There was zero subsidy from the IAH-CDG route as CO operated IAH-Paris for nearly 20 years. The flight was very profitable during through the Skyteam
35 LAXdude1023: Very doubtful. DEN-LHR is 500% larger than CLE-LHR and DEN-Europe is 350% larger than CLE-Europe. Traffic from CLE to Europe would struggle to fill a
36 greenair727: LAXdude--what are you basing this on? According to the Global command and control centers analysis of cities (the folks that say "Alpha" cities are N
37 gigneil: I am 100% sure they do. They are a massive multinational corporation with top-notch businesspeople. Locals need to learn that huge companies don't ha
38 greenair727: Yes, zero demand. That's why CO flew the route for years when before the recession. Then Fargo and Akron, too, huh?
39 LAXdude1023: Allow me to be specific. What Im basing my previous post on is the amount of people who travel between CLE and DEN and LHR and Europe. The numbers ar
40 gigneil: You can throw around all the feelings you want. Numbers are numbers. NS
41 Viscount724: Just curious what source you use for that type of information?
42 greenair727: ^^ LAXdude1023---thanks for the detailed response. Also, do you have a link for the O&D data? gigneil---who's talking feelings? that's the second
43 RyanairGuru: Other than the economy, the other thing that's changed is the merger. While it is true that CLE supported flights for years (I feel that some on hear
44 VV701: My own data base. However here is a link to another source: http://www.thebasource.com/flighttracker.html Other airlines covered by sister sites to t
46 IAH59: Of United makes money with this flight British Airways should step up there game and add another flight. More frequency the better.
47 skipness1E: The LHR terminals remain split by route. When a former CO B757 flew the UA130 IAD-LHR replacing the UA B763 as UA948 for the summer, it flew from T1
48 IAH59: If United makes money on the 3rd flight maybe Virgin Atlantic should step in the Houston market and offer direct service.
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