If BHX is so bad, how come Emirates are so successful here? Couldn't other international carriers send an occasional widebody here? I'm thinking especially that a Chinese airline might work given the joint manufacturing connections in the area? LTI, MG & Jaguar-Land Rover spring to mind in the automotive sector alone.
polot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 3982 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 11997 times:
While "attack" might be a strong word to use...they are right. They didn't say that international airlines cannot be successful in BHX, they said that BHX could never be an alternative to London and a strong international hub, which is correct.
MCO2BRS From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 580 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 11389 times:
BHX is my local airport as well, and would take it over LHR any day. I suppose its too much to ask for BA and VS to consider that there are some of us in "the regions" who would rather travel from our local airports than shlep to London.
It would be nice to see more long haul flights from BHX, but I don't see it coming from any UK based carriers. We already have service to all of the major European hubs and I'm more than happy to travel via AMS/CDG/FRA/ZRH/BRU to get wherever I need to go.
VV701 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2005, 8514 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (3 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 9469 times:
Quoting MCO2BRS (Reply 6): BHX is my local airport as well, and would take it over LHR any day. I suppose its too much to ask for BA and VS to consider that there are some of us in "the regions" who would rather travel from our local airports than shlep to London.
Exactly the same argument can be made about the Birmingham Post article. It says:
"And [BA and VS] claimed that regional airports such as Birmingham could not provide an alternative to expanding capacity in the South East."
Just as those living or working locally to BHX would prefer to fly through BHX those living or working in the South East would rather travel from their local airport than make the trek to BHX for their flight.
As far as lowering APD from regional airports like BHX to try to encourage those travelling to and from the southeast to use those airports this would defeat the whole (somewhat dubious) stated raison d'etre of APD, namely as a "green" tax. It would simply encourage potential passengerrs to fly approximately the same distance but would result in an additional car journey of around 100 miles at the start and the end of their journey for many. But I guess as far as the Exchequer is concerned the loss of APD would be more than made up with the increased income from the duty and VAT on petrol and diesel.
Lofty From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 6697 times:
When BA Regional used the "Euro Hub" with BAC1-11 at BHX the flights did not terminate in BHX all the flight operated a domestic sector for example CDG BHX EDI or TXL BHX EDI or some onto GLA as BHX could not provide enough pax even in those days.
willd From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 274 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6136 times:
The issue is that BHX is really too close to LHR and MAN. When living in Worcester, it was, on a good run, only an hour and five minute drive up to MAN to jump on a widebody service across the pond. It could on some days take just as long due to the M42 to get to BHX!
VS could probably make a bucket and spade route to MCO work using a 330. GLA has been successful for VS so far however GLA is different to BHX as it really doesn't have to 'compete' with MAN and LHR.
TC957 From UK - England, joined May 2012, 1817 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 2 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3010 times:
I'm sure that if CA can make DUS - BJS work,despite being near their FRA flights, then similary a BHX - BJS link-up should work, given the similar distance BHX is from LHR is to DUS from FRA. Especially, as has already been pointed out, with the automotive industry connections.