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TWA B727's - Great Video!  
User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 4087 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11743 times:

Great find on YT:

TWA B727's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oraIUTQEYPA



Man, I really miss the 727's. So rare these days. Really good looking aircraft.

[Edited 2012-11-24 21:47:16]

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User currently offlineRWA380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 11392 times:

Nice memories of travels past, thanks for the share..... 


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User currently offlineaerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2860 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 11214 times:

Thanks for this. Is it just me, or was there a lot of bouncy landings here?! What a special aircraft though, I always think of it as the 737-800´s older, sexier sister.


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User currently offlineDesertAir From Mexico, joined Jan 2006, 1478 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 11085 times:

My last 727 flight was on TWA. STL to San Antonio, TX in 1997. I loved the power of the 727.

User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1640 posts, RR: 20
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9793 times:

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 2):
Is it just me, or was there a lot of bouncy landings here?!

It looks like many of the landings didn't involve autospoilers (were they installed on the 727?), hence the small bounce instead of the wheels being immediately planted to the ground.

Anywho, great video - I always love watching the 727 claw its way into the air and then come back to Earth in an unpredictable manner.



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9379 times:

Awesome video, thanks so much for the link.

The B727 IMHO is still the best looking airplane and most fun to watch land and take-off.



Any views shared are strictly my own and do not a represent those of any former employer.
User currently offlineBandA From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 341 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 8959 times:

Just beautiful!

I never had a chance to experience the 727 (unfortunately). But I am a big fan of how it looks and after reading so much about them... absolutely enjoyed the landings.



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User currently offlineJFKPurser From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 486 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7892 times:

The funny thing is I spent so many years flying around in those, I never imagined I would one day miss the sights and sounds of actually seeing them. But now I really do. It really was a versatile, unique plane. And loud -- once you got a few steps past those window exits...

User currently offlinetomcat From Belgium, joined Sep 2000, 173 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7677 times:

Nice indeed.

And what's happening to the engine of the Fokker 100 landing in the background at 0:01?


User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25982 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7641 times:

Quoting aerdingus (Reply 2):
Is it just me, or was there a lot of bouncy landings here?

The 727 has a reputation for being very difficult to land smoothly with any consistency. Of all my flights on 727s I can't recall many very smooth landings. Big contrast with the 737 which is just the opposite. They almost never bounce even with a firm landing.


User currently offlineTrnsWrld From United States of America, joined May 1999, 959 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6985 times:

Amazing video thanks for posting!!! I search YouTube for TWA stuff and never seen that one. I have been on numerous TWA 727's and miss them greatly. It's sad to think that most of those planes are either scrapped or in rough shape laying in pieces in the desert.

User currently offlinebobloblaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1725 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6964 times:

My last 727 was in Oct 2001 ORD-ATL on Delta

User currently offlineWestern727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 753 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6867 times:

Thanks for posting!

I always appreciated TWA for keeping the red rotating beacons throughout its 727 fleet. Always seemed more true to the 727's character than the red strobes.



Jack @ AUS
User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 4087 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6718 times:

Flew on the B727 with Pan Am, American Airlines, Mexicana, Sterling Airways and Lufthansa, but unfortunetly never with TWA. Great aircraft !

User currently offlinefutureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6298 times:

One good looking airplane the 727 is. Just pretty all around.


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User currently offlineAY104 From Canada, joined Nov 2005, 505 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6230 times:

Thanks for the wonderful memories!

Had many wonderful 727 flights on Western and Delta.

Funny, although I never flew on TWA, I always get sentimental when I see the videos. A number of friends of mine who worked with me at the airlines, had the privilege to fly on TWA. Never heard a bad comment about them, all aspects from service to food were positive. I understand why they are missed so much.

Cheers,
AY104



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User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3089 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5901 times:

Also agree.Great video.I find YouTube,overall, the best source for aviation videos including 3 N742PS PSA/US retro jet.


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User currently offlinepanova98 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5798 times:

Now there's a plane that could make some real noise.

Living at the Virginia end of the Teddy Roosevelt bridge across the Potomac, on days with low cloud ceilings and the river noise abatement procedures weren't/couldn't be followed, you knew when a 727 was flying over. Power up! (Of course, the NW 727s always, always seemed to fly a more gradual slope and were perhaps the closest to our rooftops and the nosiest.)

Luv'd it, even if others were not so thrilled.

As for the TWA 727, locally, December 1, 1974, will long be remembered, not for all that good. Coming into DCA from Indy and Columbus, flight 514 was diverted to IAD (too windy for DCA landings) and clipped the Blue Ridge at Mount Weather, 1670 feet, killing all onboard. Oh, but a few more feet and no crash.

So sad to drive for some time thereafter on the Virginia state road at the crash site and see how the treetops had been sheared off. Hard to believe, this Saturday, it will have been 38 years.


User currently offlineMax Q From United States of America, joined May 2001, 4778 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5459 times:

Quoting N243NW (Reply 4):

It looks like many of the landings didn't involve autospoilers (were they installed on the 727?), hence the small bounce instead of the wheels being immediately planted to the ground.

Not sure about other Airlines but we deactivated our autospoilers after an incident.



On touchdown the Aircraft bounced, but the autospoilers activated after the aircraft was airborne again.


The second landing was so hard it damaged the aircraft.


From then on we always activated the spoilers manually !



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User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3993 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5339 times:
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Quoting bobloblaw (Reply 11):
My last 727 was in Oct 2001 ORD-ATL on Delta

Mine was in April of 2002 TPA-MIA on American.

I have flown once on a TWA 727, back in 1988, from LGA to MCO. It was a 727-200. At that time, the airlines were still flying a lot of 727s on most domestic routes.

Thanks for posting this video, it sure brings nice memories from the past. You can tell this video dates from the second half of the 90s, because TWA had already introduced its then new corporate scheme (1996) and the last 727 left the fleet in 2000. Another way you can tell it was about that time is you can see the Boeing titles and logos in the hangars, STL used to be a Mc Donnell Douglas plant for the military (for those who like fighters, that's where Phantoms, F-15s and F-18s used to be built). Mc DD and Boeing had already merged.

The nicest thing for me personally about this video is the footage of the American 727 tails, that's what brings to me my warmest memories of the past.

Since the 727 phase out from the US major airlines in the late 90s / early 2000s, STL became MD-80 heaven. It has been so, until recently when American dismantled its STL hub.

Ben Soriano



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User currently offlinetb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1648 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 4932 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 9):
The 727 has a reputation for being very difficult to land smoothly with any consistency.

It certainly does, you get a lot of skippers like you saw in the movie. I get hot and cold streaks on it. Last week my 2 landings(first as a Captain )were both very smooth and right where I wanted them. Next week, who knows, they might be a bunch of clangers and I won't be able to buy a good one.

Quoting Max Q (Reply 18):
Not sure about other Airlines but we deactivated our autospoilers after an incident.

I've only used them on the sim, same with auto-brakes. We don't have them on our planes any more, they've been long gone.


Great video, a couple good views of STL!



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User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4696 times:

Quoting AY104 (Reply 15):
Had many wonderful 727 flights on Western and Delta.


After reading these great posts I had to figure out exactly what airlines I've been able to enjoy a B727 flight:

Continental
American
Delta
United
Piedmont
Alaska
Northwest
National
Pan Am
Eastern
Lufthansa
Southwest
Braniff
Sasha

My first jumpseat was on a B727 an Eastern B727-200 and last was on a Continental B727-200. Great airplane for sure and well deserving of many threads on a.net.



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User currently offlineFlyMKG From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 186 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4478 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 9):
The 727 has a reputation for being very difficult to land smoothly with any consistency.

I couldn't agree more! One leg you'll roll it on and the very next will be carrier style. It certainly keeps you humble.

Quoting Max Q (Reply 18):
Not sure about other Airlines but we deactivated our autospoilers after an incident.

Two of our aircraft have autospoilers and autobrakes and it makes a noticeable difference on the landings. The autospoilers can save an average landing because the airplane sticks to ground so well. If you bounce it and they deploy then the second landing is going to be very hard. On long runways with the autobrakes and autospoilers activated you hardly need to use reverse thrust.

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User currently offlinePC12Fan From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2466 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4456 times:

Great post! Been working at STL since '97 - caught myself getting a little melancholy after watching this.

Long live TWA!!



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User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25982 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4419 times:

My 727 flights. The first one was UA so I'll show it first. Interestingly, 9 of those 18 airlines no longer exist.

United (100, 200)
American (200)
Delta (200)
TWA (200)
Pan Am (100)
Northeast (200)
Northwest (100, 200)
Hughes Airwest (200)
Braniff (200)
Eastern (100)
CP Air (100, 200)
Air Canada (200)
Air France (200)
Alitalia (200)
Lufthansa (200)
TAP Air Portugal (100)
Ansett Australia (100)
South African (100)


User currently offlinetype-rated From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 25, posted (2 years 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4257 times:

In the late 60's/early 70's walking around ORD seemed like everything domestic was DC-9's or 727's with a few 707's & DC8's thrown in on occasion. The 727 was TWA's workhorse on the ORD-East Coast routes at the time.

I remember Northwest flying 727's out of MDW on cold winter days. The 727 would run down the runway using quite a bit then would stand up and enter a steep climb out of there. Fun to watch.


User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4593 posts, RR: 7
Reply 26, posted (2 years 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 3264 times:

I caught a glimpse of a few AA F28s in there too!

User currently offlineTbone354 From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (2 years 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 3105 times:
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Yes. Thank you for the video. I do have a question. I noticed that on all of the TWA 727 and TWA DC-9 aircraft in the video that both wings have a black stripe painted from the leading edge to the trailing edge. On the 727 it is just outboard of the wing fence. I have not seen this on any other airline. What is the purpose of this stripe? Thank you for your kind response.

User currently offlineIAHFLYR From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 4790 posts, RR: 22
Reply 28, posted (2 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2821 times:

Quoting Tbone354 (Reply 27):
What is the purpose of this stripe? Thank you for your kind response.

Somebody once told me long ago it was to help detect ice on the wing. Not sure I believe that, but that's my only guess.



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User currently offlineavion660 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (2 years 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2803 times:

Quoting American 767 (Reply 19):
You can tell this video dates from the second half of the 90s, because TWA had already introduced its then new corporate scheme (1996) and the last 727 left the fleet in 2000

I was going to guess 1998: the St Louis Rams 727 scheme can't have been around that long so could date the video.

Quoting tomcat (Reply 8):
And what's happening to the engine of the Fokker 100 landing in the background at 0:01?

to me it looked like a sun glint (brief glare) .. were you thinking an engine flame/ compressor stall?


User currently offline71Zulu From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 3088 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (2 years 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2609 times:

Love the 727, imho the best looking Boeing ever built.

Quoting JFKPurser (Reply 7):
It really was a versatile, unique plane. And loud -- once you got a few steps past those window exits...

My favorite 727 video......turn it up!

http://youtu.be/gwel7Ulmrvs


Like this one too:

http://youtu.be/W_ErZ1nakd0



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User currently offlineTrnsWrld From United States of America, joined May 1999, 959 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (2 years 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2427 times:

I call them racing stripes   but yes as far as I know they were for ice detection. And the stripe went from front to back on the wing, not just a section on the front and back.

User currently offlineWestern727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 753 posts, RR: 4
Reply 32, posted (2 years 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 2315 times:

Quoting IAHFLYR (Reply 28):
detect ice on the wing
Quoting TrnsWrld (Reply 31):
And the stripe went from front to back on the wing, not just a section on the front and back.

  

They were painted on other TWA aircraft as well. Searching the A.net database I was able to find them painted after the early 90s on:

DC-9/MD-80
727
767 (outboard of the engines)
L-1011 (inboard of the wing-mounted engines)

Wasn't able to find them on the 757s or 747s, though.

This all begs the question: WHY were they painted after the early 90s?



Jack @ AUS
User currently offlinepenguins From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 348 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (2 years 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2175 times:

It is hard to believe but one day we will be reminiscing about the "gold old days" of the 787 and A380.

User currently offlineCWAFlyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 669 posts, RR: 1
Reply 34, posted (2 years 3 weeks ago) and read 2024 times:

The 727 was and still is, in my opinion, the most beautiful commercial airplane every built. One's I've ridden on

United -200
Western-200
Delta-200
TWA 100/200
Sun Country-200


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