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What Is The Meaning Of X In A340-642X?  
User currently offlineMAUZAO From Brazil, joined Aug 2012, 24 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 13322 times:

Hello. I flew on LH505 03NOV GRUMUC which was operated by an A340-642X. Questions: what the X in front of the aircraft type means? I know LUFTHANSA has both the A340-642 and the A340-642X, but most of the long hauls GRUMUC are being operated by the X type. What are the differences between the two, if any? Also, is it possible to know the registration number of that particular aircraft? And, does LH has a version with Economy and Business cabins only? Thank you.

[Edited 2012-11-25 05:43:37]

[Edited 2012-11-25 05:47:35]

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User currently offlineAA94 From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 605 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 13268 times:

Lufthansa also flies aircraft labelled as the A340-313X. The -X variant refers to what Airbus calls the A340-E family. Aircraft that are labelled with the -X have a higher MTOW, and has engines with a greater thrust rating IIRC. The length of the GRU-MUC route is likely what dictates the deployment of the enhanced aircraft.

Lufthansa has a total of 24 A346s, of which 11 are the -X variant. They are registered D-AIHP thru D-AIHZ.



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User currently offlineMAUZAO From Brazil, joined Aug 2012, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 13174 times:

Thanks a lot for the explanation. So, it makes sense that most of the types being used for the long MUCGRU run are -X variants. But they also use the non -X on certain flights. I know the LH505 on 03NOV was operated by an -X type for sure, because it had the newly refitted F class, which was just wonderful. Is it possible to know registration of that particular aircraft?

User currently offlinerobffm2 From Germany, joined Dec 2006, 1124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days ago) and read 12766 times:

Acording to Libhomeradar D-AIHW had the honours.

http://www.libhomeradar.org/database...page=1&qid=17931188&sid=5016148799


User currently offlineLH422 From Germany, joined Sep 2010, 422 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 10981 times:

So is this what is known as the A340-600HGW?

Airbus A340-600HGW Makes First Flight (by WINGS Nov 18 2005 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10146 times:

The X applies to any high gross weight variant nowadays yes... HGW/IGW/ETC don't exist in official nomenclature.

Not all A340-300Xs are Enhanced, btw.

NS


User currently offlineIndependence76 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 276 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9659 times:

My question is, will the A380 series see an -X variant in the next 5 or so years?

[Edited 2012-11-25 15:29:54]


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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31414 posts, RR: 85
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9617 times:
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Quoting gigneil (Reply 5):
Not all A340-300Xs are Enhanced, btw.

Didn't the A340-300E(nhanced) enter service after the A340-300X?

As I understand it, the A340-300E offers the same Weight Variants as the A340-300X, but uses the CFM56-5C4/P* engines as opposed to the CFM56-5C4 and comes with the cockpit and certain systems similar to the A340-500/-600.

The /P is a PiP'd version of the engine with a 1% reduction in SFC.


User currently offlinegigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8969 times:

That's right. The A340-300X was available for quite some time prior to the Enhanced models - the first of each were an A330-200 for Qantas and an A330-300 for Northwest, with A340s coming much later.

NS


User currently offlineMAUZAO From Brazil, joined Aug 2012, 24 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8044 times:

Thank you all for the explanations. Well, what can I say? The -X type has more thrust & power than the regular -600. But give any A-340, -600 or -300, over the stormy South Atlantic than any twin-engined (A-330 or 767 or 777) anytime. And Lufthansa is a plus! Thank you for the registration of the machine I flew on.

User currently offlinedavidho1985 From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2012, 376 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5548 times:

Quoting Independence76 (Reply 6):
My question is, will the A380 series see an -X variant in the next 5 or so years?

BA's A380 will be -X variant if I am corrected


User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1354 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4812 times:

The biggest difference is that A340-642s will have Rolls Royce Trent 556s, while A340-642Xs will have Rolls Royce Trent 560s. An extra 4,000lbf per engine. More power = more payload = happier accountants.  
Quoting davidho1985 (Reply 10):
BA's A380 will be -X variant if I am corrected

Airbus is actually offering a few different higher weight versions of the A380. I'm not sure which version(s) will get the -X appendage and which won't. BA is defiantly getting one of the higher weight versions.



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User currently offlineProst From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1230 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 4775 times:

Quoting zkojq (Reply 11):
BA is defiantly getting one of the higher weight versions.

I'm sure Boeing is chagrined by British Airways defiance.


User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31414 posts, RR: 85
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3749 times:
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Quoting davidho1985 (Reply 10):
BA's A380 will be -X variant if I am corrected

The MTOW difference between the "baseline" and "-X" versions of the A330 and A340 were much larger in comparison to the MTOW differences from WV002 to WV006 and WV008. As such, I would expect Airbus to not use a "-X" variant for BA's planes (WV006).

I would expect Airbus to add the "-X" suffix when MTOWs are in the 585-590t range.


User currently offlineyendig From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2006, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 3344 times:

Thank you for clearing up the 'X' on A340s.

I'm on my first 300-series flight in January and was going to ask the same question about 313Xs....no need to now.

So, working on the basis that the 313X is slightly more powerful than 'standard', does this mean I won't need to bring my extra-strong elastic to catapult it off the runway????     


User currently offlinezkojq From New Zealand, joined Sep 2011, 1354 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3229 times:

Quoting Prost (Reply 12):
I'm sure Boeing is chagrined by British Airways defiance.

   In my defense, it was rather late when I made that post.

Quoting Stitch (Reply 13):

True, but maybe by the time offers a 585-590t Weight Variant, Airbus will have 'enhanced' the A380 and thus giving them the E suffix. In this case, new deliveries would become A380-843Es or A380-862Es.



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