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DL Schedule Changes At ORF

chuckles1225 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 160 posts, RR: 1
Posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1999 times:

Does anybody have any idea why DL cut back service in ORF this fall and if they have any plans to re-start service in the spring? They eliminated CVG service, which doesn't surprise me given the light loads and the new LGA service that started in Summer. I was very surprised that they eliminated MSP service though. They had just increased the MSP service from 1x day to 2x day (CRJ9 and E170) and it seemed like they were always pretty full when they cut them completely. They also cut the early morning DTW flight, but upgraded the noon flight to DTW from a CRJ2 to a DC-9. All the ATL service is great but it doesn't do me much good getting up to the midwest.

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PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 6867 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

There are numerous capacity cuts systemwide during the winter months. The changes are most noticable in the Jan & Feb schedules where demand is at its lowest point of the year. Many of these flights return in the spring.

Some cases frequency and equipment will vary by day of the week.

MSP-ORF was dropped for the winter months, but will likely return in the spring. DL is flying MSP-RIC year-round.

ocracoke From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 652 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 1228 times:

Quoting chuckles1225 (Thread starter):

Does anybody have any idea why DL cut back service in ORF this fall and if they have any plans to re-start service in the spring? They eliminated CVG service,

CVG-ORF service has been gone for more than a year now.

DTWPurserBoy From United States of America, joined Feb 2010, 529 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1034 times:

You'll see a lot of jockying of schedules and aircraft types as the B717's and B737-900's start to come on line later in the summer. They have been pretty quiet about it with just a general comment that the 717's will been seen a lot in DTW. January and February are slow months and they try to get a lot of maintenance done then, too.

MasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 4724 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1000 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 1):
DL is flying MSP-RIC year-round.

Kind of interesting that UA dropped CLE-ORF but kept CLE-RIC. RIC must be a higher yielding city than ORF.

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Catiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 2276 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 959 times:

Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 4):

Kind of interesting that UA dropped CLE-ORF but kept CLE-RIC. RIC must be a higher yielding city than ORF.

Why so interesting? They're 90 miles from each other and two different markets. . .

FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6517 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 842 times:

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Quoting MasseyBrown (Reply 4):

ORF is a much more seasonal market than RIC is. Demand falls off a cliff once it gets cold and VA Beach all but shuts down until March-April. The "Seven Cities" area is fairly small anyway and they have the option of flying out of both ORF and PHF depending on where you live and what the fares look like. Many will drive to either/or chasing a better deal.

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Catiii From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 2276 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 772 times:

Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 6):
The "Seven Cities" area is fairly small anyway and they have the option of flying out of both ORF and PHF depending on where you live and what the fares look like. Many will drive to either/or chasing a better deal.

Who knows, maybe if PEOPLExpress ever gets off the ground in PHF it will spur additional competition...

MasseyBrown From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 4724 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 685 times:

Quoting Catiii (Reply 5):
Why so interesting? They're 90 miles from each other and two different markets. . .

20-30 years ago, ORF was the much bigger market and now ORF and RIC are essentially the same size at 3.2 and 3.1 million pax/year. The Navy has shrunk and Richmond has grown. As suspected, RIC has better yields 24.14 cents over 903 mi. compared to 20.1 over 1054 mi. for ORF. I find that interesting.

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