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TSA Odd Comments About Liquids/Gels  
User currently offlineskyguyB727 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (1 year 11 months 2 hours ago) and read 3448 times:

Today while going through a TSA airport checkpoint, I saw the man ahead of me pull a gallon size (not quart) zip top bag chock full of containers of liquids out of his bag and put it in the screening tray. No one from the TSA batted an eye. Not one TSA officer commented on the excess quantity of liquids/gels even though the bag was in full view to everyone.

After I passed through, I asked two TSA officers if the rules had changed. They said the size of the bag and the size of the containers inside the bag do not matter. They said the only thing that matters is how much liquid/gel is inside each containter. They told me that the x-ray allowed them to see if the containers were half full, 1/4 full, or whatever. Based on what they saw on the x-ray, they could determine the quantity of liquid inside each container.

They also told me that the liquid restriction depends on the airport. They actually said that some airports don't care about liquids/gels at all.

When the TSA first implemented the liquid/gel restriction, a TSA officer once told me that no container over 100 ml was allowed through a checkpoint even if it was completely empty and bone dry at the time. He told me specifically that if, at any time in the past, a container held more than 100 ml of a liquid, the empty container could not be brought through a checkpoint. Contrast that with what I was told by the TSA today. It's no wonder people are confused. Can anyone explain this inconsistency?

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User currently offlineikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21544 posts, RR: 59
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 2 hours ago) and read 3438 times:

from what I understand, they are worried about total quantity and the ability to mix it effectively. But considering those who are on the front lines are not trained chemists or experienced bomb makers, not sure how any judgment call they make, even if based on training or a manual, can be anything but theater. And considering you can buy larger containers in the airport, mixing really isn't that much of a problem for those inclined.


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User currently offlinesanti319 From Mexico, joined Dec 2005, 400 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 1 hour ago) and read 3386 times:

You know you are talking about TSA right? When have they ever make any sense??

User currently offlineAWACSooner From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 1933 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months ago) and read 3276 times:

TSA= consistently inconsistent

User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3108 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3171 times:

I found that at 99% of airports I fly out of, the TSA could care less about liquids...I don't know why they still have that rule. I pack full size bottles in my carry-ons all the time, and I have only been stopped once, and even then they let me pass with the shampoo bottle after "inspection".


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User currently offlineFlyDeltaJets From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 1893 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3021 times:
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TSA official policies according to their website are not airport specific but nation-wide. They also say that there are things that are up to the discresion of the officer. Also with liquids I find that the smaller airports are the most strict when "enforcing" the size limits where as the larger ones give a little more lattitude.


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User currently offlineskywaymanaz From United States of America, joined May 2012, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2824 times:

I once got a stern lecture from a TSA screener that my bag was to large even though contents were in full compliance with 3-1-1. It seemed more power trip to me then trying to be helpful but what can one do? I'm sure TSA would have responded to a complaint by saying he was following all rules and procedures correctly. When that rule started it took me forever to get used to taking the little baggie out and half the time I just forgot and was never caught. I usually carry Listerine breath strips in my pocket and I can't tell you how many times that's come up on pat down that I didn't take them out. Very easy item to miss. My last trip I forgot to take my square plastic letter opener out of my GPS bag and leave it home. Now that was really dumb of me. I love that letter opener. I could have had it taken away, but it slipped right thru airports in 4 states. Long story short some of these things are much easier to see in the X-ray then others. From my dated 25 years ago doing the airport security job in another era perspective a full tube of toothpaste or pinky fingernail size letter opener razor blade probably isn't that easy to see but I wouldn't knowingly risk it. I've criticized foolish TSA policies and abusive behavior from the screeners on numerous occasions but can't condone anyone attempting to circumvent them.

User currently offlinefreakyrat From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 874 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2331 times:
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I've sometimes left some Chapstick in my parka pocket and went thru numerous airports with it with no problems.

User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5608 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2318 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 5):
Also with liquids I find that the smaller airports are the most strict when "enforcing" the size limits where as the larger ones give a little more lattitude.

  

Both my wife and my mother like to push the size limits. The only places they have ever been hassled or required to throw anything out are smaller airports.


User currently offlineUSAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1848 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2265 times:

Quoting FlyDeltaJets (Reply 5):
Also with liquids I find that the smaller airports are the most strict when "enforcing" the size limits where as the larger ones give a little more lattitude.

Absolutely. The agents at smaller airports tend to be on power trips far more often.


User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5671 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 2158 times:

Quoting skyguyB727 (Thread starter):
When the TSA first implemented the liquid/gel restriction, a TSA officer once told me that no container over 100 ml was allowed through a checkpoint even if it was completely empty and bone dry at the time

Which was a lie.

Quoting skyguyB727 (Thread starter):

After I passed through, I asked two TSA officers if the rules had changed.

Which is also a lie.


At least the most recent lie was of a benefit to the public.



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