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Vista Jet Orders Up To 142 Global Express Bizjets  
User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 994 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4140 times:
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Everybody talks about Boeing and Airbus around here, but Bombardier is riding just as high.

Bombardier has secured another multi-billion dollar order for business jets (up to $7.9 billion if all options are taken), this time from Austrian operator Vista Jet. The order is as follows:

Firm orders for- 25 Globals 5000 with a range of 5200NM, 25 Globals 6000 with a range of 6000NM, and 6 Global 8000 with a range of 7900NM. Plus options for 86 more Global Express

Bombardier secured a similar order from Netjets not too long ago, and Netjets finally has a good competitor on the long- haul market

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...-for-up-to-142-global-jets-379488/

[Edited 2012-11-27 05:03:28]

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User currently offlineFalcon Flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1327 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3817 times:

Really surprised by the size of this order. Vistajet has always talked about growth coming from the BRIC countries, can't see how Europe can sustain all of that large cabin capacity. Great news for bizav though.


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User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 994 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 3757 times:
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Vista jet is Targeting China with this massive order, they want to beat Netjets to the punch.

With Europe's finances in disarray, no way this order is meant for them

As for Bombardier, this further cements their business jet division as their "bread n butter"


User currently offline135mech From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 412 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 3611 times:
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Congrats to both companies for this historical order!

"By any standard, this is an historic order for Bombardier," says Steve Ridolfi, president, Bombardier Business Aircraft. "It goes without saying that we are thrilled VistaJet has again chosen to grow their fleet with the industry-leading Global family," Ridolfi adds.


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User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5476 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3332 times:

I seem to recall reading that bizjets account for 75% of BBD aerospace revenue. It's why the company can easily survive the slow times in its commercial aircraft program.


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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3311 times:

How big is VistaJet's current fleet? Seems to be about 30 aircraft.

User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 994 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3298 times:
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Vista Jet's current fleet is around 15 aircraft. All bombardier types, Lears, Challengers, Globals.

Ordering long-haul Globals makes me think they're going to set shop in China and expand like crazy there. You need Globals to connect China to Europe and North America


User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4294 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3061 times:

How is this order going to affect the C-series? Will "Bomber" use this to further develop its commercial arm or are they going to concentrate now on their business division due to the lack of interest in their commercial division?


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User currently offlinegolfradio From Canada, joined Jun 2009, 790 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3046 times:

Quoting brilondon (Reply 7):

I think the former. BBD does not have a cash flow issue. But if the C-Series program take longer than expected to start generating revenues, this order will definitely improve BBD's credit rating. IMO, BBD has an excellent offering in the C-Series and they will continue to develop their commercial division.


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

Quoting g500 (Thread starter):
Bombardier secured a similar order from Netjets not too long ago, and Netjets finally has a good competitor on the long- haul market

Did Vista Jet make this order post NBAA Conference? I don't recall reading about anything like this in the daily NBAA Newspapers during NBAA.

Netjets just took delivery of their first Global 6000 during NBAA in Orlando last month. The Global 6000 flew in as C-GLUP in Net Jets paint, but while on static display it wore N160QS - it had to go back to Canada after NBAA for a couple final touch ups but Net Jets pretty much otherwise took their delivery then.


User currently offlinecorey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2528 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2766 times:

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 9):

Yes this was a new order announced yesterday, long after NBAA

Fyi N160QS is on its way to CMH as we speak.


User currently offlineTangowhisky From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 931 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2649 times:

There are the airlines we talk about, and now the Netjets and Vistajets putting the final nails in the coffin for the First Class that we knew of. These two will be the First Class of the future: book on demand, leave when you want and come back when you want, no hassles, and even economical when traveling in large teams. Very interesting trend.


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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2544 times:

F on an airliner is still a lot cheaper than a long range bizjet.

User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21675 posts, RR: 55
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2525 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 12):
F on an airliner is still a lot cheaper than a long range bizjet.

For one person, yes. But when you put eight or nine people on a long range bizjet, the numbers start to even out. The bizjet will always be at least somewhat more expensive, but it's got other benefits that the airlines just can't offer, and that helps the business case quite a bit.

-Mir



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User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5476 posts, RR: 30
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2465 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 13):
For one person, yes. But when you put eight or nine people on a long range bizjet, the numbers start to even out. The bizjet will always be at least somewhat more expensive, but it's got other benefits that the airlines just can't offer, and that helps the business case quite a bit.

Plus, you don't have to deal with airline schedules and routes. I agree...this could very well eat into the F market.



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