g500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 726 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 2738 times:
Everybody talks about Boeing and Airbus around here, but Bombardier is riding just as high.
Bombardier has secured another multi-billion dollar order for business jets (up to $7.9 billion if all options are taken), this time from Austrian operator Vista Jet. The order is as follows:
Firm orders for- 25 Globals 5000 with a range of 5200NM, 25 Globals 6000 with a range of 6000NM, and 6 Global 8000 with a range of 7900NM. Plus options for 86 more Global Express
Bombardier secured a similar order from Netjets not too long ago, and Netjets finally has a good competitor on the long- haul market
Falcon Flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1293 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (5 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2415 times:
Really surprised by the size of this order. Vistajet has always talked about growth coming from the BRIC countries, can't see how Europe can sustain all of that large cabin capacity. Great news for bizav though.
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135mech From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 357 posts, RR: 2 Reply 3, posted (5 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2209 times:
Congrats to both companies for this historical order!
"By any standard, this is an historic order for Bombardier," says Steve Ridolfi, president, Bombardier Business Aircraft. "It goes without saying that we are thrilled VistaJet has again chosen to grow their fleet with the industry-leading Global family," Ridolfi adds.
JoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5043 posts, RR: 29 Reply 4, posted (5 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1930 times:
I seem to recall reading that bizjets account for 75% of BBD aerospace revenue. It's why the company can easily survive the slow times in its commercial aircraft program.
g500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 726 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 1896 times:
Vista Jet's current fleet is around 15 aircraft. All bombardier types, Lears, Challengers, Globals.
Ordering long-haul Globals makes me think they're going to set shop in China and expand like crazy there. You need Globals to connect China to Europe and North America
brilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 3179 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1659 times:
How is this order going to affect the C-series? Will "Bomber" use this to further develop its commercial arm or are they going to concentrate now on their business division due to the lack of interest in their commercial division?
I think the former. BBD does not have a cash flow issue. But if the C-Series program take longer than expected to start generating revenues, this order will definitely improve BBD's credit rating. IMO, BBD has an excellent offering in the C-Series and they will continue to develop their commercial division.
NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3084 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1426 times:
Quoting g500 (Thread starter): Bombardier secured a similar order from Netjets not too long ago, and Netjets finally has a good competitor on the long- haul market
Did Vista Jet make this order post NBAA Conference? I don't recall reading about anything like this in the daily NBAA Newspapers during NBAA.
Netjets just took delivery of their first Global 6000 during NBAA in Orlando last month. The Global 6000 flew in as C-GLUP in Net Jets paint, but while on static display it wore N160QS - it had to go back to Canada after NBAA for a couple final touch ups but Net Jets pretty much otherwise took their delivery then.
corey07850 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2519 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1364 times:
Tangowhisky From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 862 posts, RR: 8 Reply 11, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1247 times:
There are the airlines we talk about, and now the Netjets and Vistajets putting the final nails in the coffin for the First Class that we knew of. These two will be the First Class of the future: book on demand, leave when you want and come back when you want, no hassles, and even economical when traveling in large teams. Very interesting trend.
Mir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 19716 posts, RR: 56 Reply 13, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1123 times:
Quoting MD-90 (Reply 12): F on an airliner is still a lot cheaper than a long range bizjet.
For one person, yes. But when you put eight or nine people on a long range bizjet, the numbers start to even out. The bizjet will always be at least somewhat more expensive, but it's got other benefits that the airlines just can't offer, and that helps the business case quite a bit.
-Mir
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JoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5043 posts, RR: 29 Reply 14, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1063 times:
Quoting Mir (Reply 13): For one person, yes. But when you put eight or nine people on a long range bizjet, the numbers start to even out. The bizjet will always be at least somewhat more expensive, but it's got other benefits that the airlines just can't offer, and that helps the business case quite a bit.
Plus, you don't have to deal with airline schedules and routes. I agree...this could very well eat into the F market.
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