SaabFA71 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 81 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 8541 times:
This is my second attempt posting this topic as the first one didn't go through. I'm not sure if this was discussed previously.
I have noticed that all of the ex-Colgan Air Q400s are now being operated by Republic out of DEN. Will these aircraft ever be cycled back through to the east coast United hubs like EWR and IAD or will they be strictly DEN based?
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Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21208 posts, RR: 19 Reply 6, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8151 times:
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 4): The excellent "United Airlines Fleet Website" lists the entire Q300 and a large portion of the Q200 fleet as having being withdrawn from service.
With regard to the Q200s, it's wrong, but I don't know precisely how wrong. I just checked flightaware and see 12 aircraft - all Q200s save one - airborne.
RyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 2471 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (5 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 7942 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 7): Does UA still use the three legacy gates in the A-1 concourse at EWR?
That's where the Shuttle America EMB-170s usually park, and what ORDBOSEWER was lamenting...
Quoting ORDBOSEWR (Reply 3): At EWR most of the Explus planes are now going from terminal C rather than A.
Obviously EWR is space premium and this is much easier said than done, but I'm sure that they would like to shut these gates down. If nothing else, they have their own UnitedClub!
Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 5): Due to the wingspan of the Q400s they have to be at the C gates.
LOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 981 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (5 months 3 weeks ago) and read 7797 times:
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 8): Obviously EWR is space premium and this is much easier said than done, but I'm sure that they would like to shut these gates down. If nothing else, they have their own UnitedClub!
Aren't those gates where one of the 11. September planes departed from?
T5towbar From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 421 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (5 months 3 weeks ago) and read 7664 times:
The Q400 will stay at Terminal C. Probably the 170's as well. B6 has finally moved from Gates 21-22. So we now have the whole A-2 concourse. But the new gates aren't operational yet, but the lines are painted for ERJ's and 170's. If by chance the 170's come back to A-2, there will be 4 gates (21, 22, 24A, 25) will be able to handle them. But they will stay at C-2 (except the inbound YYT non- pre clear at C-3.
The Q's will stay at Terminal C.
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floridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1985 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7577 times:
Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 5): As of next month he Q400s will be back at EWR and IAD. They poaed many issues in DEN and had problems
The Q400's problems in DEN have nothing to do with DEN, but rather simply teething issues with a large-scale ramp-up by YX. The Q400's aren't leaving DEN. There are just more coming online that will be flying the EWR and IAD operations. They will have major Q400 operations in all 3.
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7513 times:
Oh, I was not aware of that. I had heard somewhere that they were having problems with thw altitude which made no sense to me (maybe the non-NextGens but even hen it wasn't quite fitting).
Thanks for xlearing that up.
On a side note, how many Q400s does UA have on order?
If both the Q400s and E170s stay at C, what is going to happen to A1?
Further, is there room for them all at C during peak times? I was under the impression that mainline took up a large proportion of the available gates.
T5towbar From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 421 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 7384 times:
B6 has the two remaining UA gates (16-17) Gate 18 is a common use gate but B6 has access to it as we'll. WN has the other former UA gates (14-15) in the slot swap deal, along with Gate 10. AC has gates 11-12.
There s no Gate 13 at A-1.
Most of the 170's come and go in the mid-afternoon bank. Now with the Q400 in the mix, I'm pretty sure that bank can handle the activity. But more than likely Terminal A may see a couple of 170's.
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STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16245 posts, RR: 52 Reply 16, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7323 times:
Quoting T5towbar (Reply 10): B6 has finally moved from Gates 21-22
Quoting T5towbar (Reply 14): B6 has the two remaining UA gates (16-17)
loggat From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 660 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 7312 times:
We don't park any of our 170's at terminal A anymore, since the first week of November. We mostly get the odd numbered C101-111 gates and sometimes C70 and a couple of others on the end of C-2. It sounded like the move was going to be permanent with no further operations scheduled at A.
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spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 5956 times:
Quoting N353SK (Reply 18): Does anybody have a list of current and/or future Q400 routes for Republic?
IIRC, PVD, PIT, BUF, ROC, IAD, MYR (for Spring break from the middle of Feb to March 10th) just to name a few
allegiantflyer From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 93 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5496 times:
I wish i could see a route map of all these Q400 routes out of DEN now
floridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 1985 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5358 times:
Oh no, the Q400 is a wonderful plane for DEN. Republic just has to get their rhythm. It will do fine.
And while UA doesn't have any Q400s per se, more and more Q400's will be re-entering service in the coming months as RJET ramps up to the full fleet of 32. It's going to be exciting to watch.
CODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2166 posts, RR: 8 Reply 24, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5313 times:
Quoting ORDBOSEWR (Reply 3): If the Q's come back they will force the explus flights back to A.
Quoting STT757 (Reply 7): Does UA still use the three legacy gates in the A-1 concourse at EWR?
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 8): If nothing else, they have their own UnitedClub!
UA has transferred space in A-1 to B6. The A-1 United Club (former RCC) closed on 11/11. Rumors were that AC would take over the UC space as they did at LGA, but that has failed to materialize. The former United Club at A-1 is a large facility, even including a onetime International First Lounge, a remnant of extensive United operations at EWR in the 1990s through early 2000s. It is probably too big for AC's somewhat modest EWR station.
cosyr From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 196 posts, RR: 0 Reply 25, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 4604 times:
I asked this in the United Fleet Status thread, but got no response. Does anyone know if the new operation will continue the Q400 upgrade to first class? They have 6 with F, and it was only a few months ago they were planning to change them all, right before Pinnacle's chap11.
Unless UA is buying the planes and then leasing them out to the airlines that would be flying them all dressed up in UA colors pretending to be UA-operated aircraft.
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 27, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3867 times:
RDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1059 posts, RR: 0 Reply 28, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2629 times:
Quoting N62NA (Reply 26): Unless UA is buying the planes and then leasing them out to the airlines that would be flying them all dressed up in UA colors pretending to be UA-operated aircraft.
That would be the CO deal with XE/EV for all those 145's.
mcg From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 671 posts, RR: 0 Reply 29, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2552 times:
Quoting floridaflyboy (Reply 23): Oh no, the Q400 is a wonderful plane for DEN. Republic just has to get their rhythm. It will do fine.
For what it's worth I recently had a trip on UAX that was Q400 both ways. The outbound leg was delayed two hours due to late inbounder, then a mechanical issue, then the need to add fuel. Not good. The return was simply canceled. The CSA at the airport indicated it was a mechanical issue that caused the cancellation. United did handle the cancellation well, we were rebooked on F9 and were delayed only a few minutes.
It wasn't really a good trip in terms of demonstrating the usefulness of the Q400.
flyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1919 posts, RR: 11 Reply 30, posted (5 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2128 times:
They are also down one Q400 that hasn't made it into service yet. There was an aircraft to go into service two weeks ago but was damaged during final inspections. I haven't heard the expected date it will be finished and in service. May be soon though.
LHCVG From United States of America, joined May 2009, 1365 posts, RR: 1 Reply 31, posted (5 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 2105 times:
Quoting cosyr (Reply 25): I asked this in the United Fleet Status thread, but got no response. Does anyone know if the new operation will continue the Q400 upgrade to first class? They have 6 with F, and it was only a few months ago they were planning to change them all, right before Pinnacle's chap11.
I believe that will continue as it is entirely separate - from what I understand the only real change is who is flying the Q's now. Everything else should be similar (aside from normal migration around the system as UA refines it's route network).
Quoting floridaflyboy (Reply 23):
Oh no, the Q400 is a wonderful plane for DEN. Republic just has to get their rhythm. It will do fine.
Isn't the Q400 one of the few remaining RJs that do routes to places like ASE? I seem to remember that CRJs and/or ERJs have some trouble, and they need either Q's or CR7s for that.
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 32, posted (5 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1962 times:
Quoting cosyr (Reply 25): Does anyone know if the new operation will continue the Q400 upgrade to first class?
I believe they are, because from Feb 10th to Mar 10th there is a two-class Q400 operating EWR-MYR. Doesn't seem like a route they would put the planes on if they have other routes that would have more F-demand.
RyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 2471 posts, RR: 2 Reply 33, posted (5 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1930 times:
Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 32): there is a two-class Q400 operating EWR-MYR.
That seems interestingly specific!
Let's be honest, there won't be any paid F demand on this route, and with those times there won't even be any TATL connections where somebody might have flown into EWR in J.
I would therefore have thought that the more obvious thing to do would be to put up a generic one-class seat map, and then surprise some lucky elites if an 2 class bird operates on a given day.
RDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1059 posts, RR: 0 Reply 34, posted (5 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1862 times:
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 33): I would therefore have thought that the more obvious thing to do would be to put up a generic one-class seat map, and then surprise some lucky elites if an 2 class bird operates on a given day.
Unless they sell out the Y cabin, why not show F for sale, if you get even just 1 booking then it was worth it? Also, I believe EWR will recieve only 2 class Q400's. So as those come online you'll see more of them at EWR.
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 35, posted (5 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 1826 times:
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 33): Let's be honest, there won't be any paid F demand on this route, and with those times there won't even be any TATL connections where somebody might have flown into EWR in J.
I was as surprised as you are! Though nonetheless, it is nice to see some more F-class seats availible into MYR.
I'm guessing it is an upguage for the February break season, because after that it goes back to the E-145XR. Though I don't know how many spring-breakers coming from NYC, as many districts up here lost February break, like ours here on LI.
RyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 2471 posts, RR: 2 Reply 36, posted (5 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1784 times:
Quoting RDH3E (Reply 34): Unless they sell out the Y cabin, why not show F for sale, if you get even just 1 booking then it was worth it?
I understand that much, but with 6/32 frames there is a decent chance that a non-F frame could be subbed, thus disappointing that person who did pay for F. That said, I didn't realize that only 2 were going to EWR. If they are both F frames then obviously it wouldn't be an issue.
Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 35): Though I don't know how many spring-breakers coming from NYC, as many districts up here lost February break, like ours here on LI.
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 37, posted (5 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1744 times:
cosyr From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 196 posts, RR: 0 Reply 38, posted (5 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1727 times:
Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 33): Let's be honest, there won't be any paid F demand on this route, and with those times there won't even be any TATL connections where somebody might have flown into EWR in J.
Maybe not on that individual route, but connections matter. I fly into SYR all the time, and would love to upgrade, but I'm not going to pay or use miles if it only means one of my two flights.
freeze3192 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 123 posts, RR: 0 Reply 39, posted (5 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1670 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 6): Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 4):
The excellent "United Airlines Fleet Website" lists the entire Q300 and a large portion of the Q200 fleet as having being withdrawn from service.
With regard to the Q200s, it's wrong, but I don't know precisely how wrong. I just checked flightaware and see 12 aircraft - all Q200s save one - airborne.
bhmdiversion From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 443 posts, RR: 0 Reply 40, posted (5 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1502 times:
I wasn't arguing against F on regional generally, but was suggesting that as only a few Qs have F then MYR doesn't seem like the #1 market to earmark with F equipped frames.
point2point From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1957 posts, RR: 1 Reply 44, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1230 times:
Quoting allegiantflyer (Reply 21):
I wish i could see a route map of all these Q400 routes out of DEN now
I think that this is as current as I know it......
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Though I don't know how many spring-breakers coming from NYC, as many districts up here lost February break, like ours here on LI.
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