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LH 747-8I, How Many Now, Where They Fly To  
User currently offlineDID747 From France, joined Apr 2005, 400 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 13075 times:

Dear,
Would like to know how many B747-800I Lufthansa is operating now, and on what routes?
sometimes the LH418 Frankfurt-Washington, is flying over my house, using D-ABYA, D-ABYC and this week D-ABYF., but I don't know the other routes...

Thanks a lot. DID747

 


Waimanalo
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User currently offlineFuling From Australia, joined Apr 2011, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12996 times:

So far, they are flying to IAD, BLR and DEL. And soon, LAX.

User currently offlinetravelavnut From Netherlands, joined May 2010, 1612 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12948 times:

I hate myself for doing this, but..

Quoting DID747 (Thread starter):
B747-800I

It's 747-8i and not 747-800I



Live From Amsterdam!
User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8541 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 12917 times:
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I understand they have 4 at the moment:-

D-ABYA
D-ABYC
D-ABYD
D-ABYF

HTH



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User currently offlineFuling From Australia, joined Apr 2011, 187 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 12636 times:

I know D-ABYB was skipped because of a previous accident involving that registration number, but why has D-ABYE been skipped as well?

User currently onlinesteman From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 1385 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 12603 times:

D-ABYE is being retained at Boeing for further tests, probably connected with the activation of the tank in the tail.
It will be delivered in 2015.
Next year 5 more are to join the fleet.


User currently offlinesweair From Sweden, joined Nov 2011, 1823 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 12325 times:

Does LH put cargo on its 748s? As they only have 368 seats on them? Seems a bit wasteful not going with a full belly.

User currently offlinepilotfox From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 552 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 12187 times:

Any updates on when/if ORD service will start?

User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10734 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 12146 times:

Chances are I will fly the 748I next month. Just got a job offer including this 
  


User currently offlineHeavierthanair From Switzerland, joined Oct 2000, 795 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 12103 times:

G'day

Quoting steman (Reply 5):
It will be delivered in 2015.

How come they need in excess of two years to test / certify something that has been there from the beginning?   

And why use a customer's plane for that?   


Cheers

Peter



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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1591 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 11991 times:

Quoting Heavierthanair (Reply 9):
How come they need in excess of two years to test / certify something that has been there from the beginning?

Part of that time will relate to testing but modifying the airplane from flight test configuration back to the customer configuration will take up a lot of time.

Quoting Heavierthanair (Reply 9):
And why use a customer's plane for that?

Except for the first 747 (RA001), 767 (VA001) and 757 (NA001) all the airplanes Boeing has used in flight test have gone eventually to the airlines. The first 777 (WA001) is owned by CAT.


User currently offlinestrandedinbgm From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 349 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 11912 times:

Quoting travelavnut (Reply 2):
I hate myself for doing this, but..

Quoting DID747 (Thread starter):
B747-800I

It's 747-8i and not 747-800I

I often feel the same way when I see people using apostrophes incorrectly.



It's 737s, 747s and 380s. Not 737's, 747's and 380's. Learn to use the apostrophe for crying out loud.
User currently onlineovercast From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 11864 times:

Quoting travelavnut (Reply 2):
It's 747-8i and not 747-800I

Not exactly, Boeing use 747-8i for marketing, but the lufthansa 747 is an 830 according to the FAA. Same thing for the freighters. Atlas's are 87uf.


User currently offlinebmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2275 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 11816 times:

Any future for the 748i for FRA-YYZ?

Unlikely right now with AC codesharing 77Ws on this route.....

[Edited 2012-11-30 10:54:46]


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User currently offlineDID747 From France, joined Apr 2005, 400 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 11466 times:

OK 747-8i, I think everyone understood I didn't talk about 747-100, 200, 300, 400 when I said 747-800I, it was very close to 747-8i, isn't it?
I didn't know a dictionary was talking with us...



Waimanalo
User currently offlineWilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9032 posts, RR: 75
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 11413 times:
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It has been said above: D-ABYA, D-ABYC, D-ABYD and D-ABYF (which I flew today, brandnew).   

D-ABYB has been skipped due to the accident with that registration back then. And D-ABYE will be joining later as Boeing wants to keep that airplane a little longer.

IAD, BLR, DEL are served at the moment with the 748i, LAX will start December 10th and the next destination is known as well, but I cannot tell.
ORD will follow in 2013 as well and some others are in the pipeline as well...

wilco737
  



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25311 posts, RR: 22
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 11411 times:

Quoting overcast (Reply 12):
Quoting travelavnut (Reply 2):
It's 747-8i and not 747-800I

Not exactly, Boeing use 747-8i for marketing, but the lufthansa 747 is an 830 according to the FAA. Same thing for the freighters. Atlas's are 87uf.

The FAA type certificate data sheet uses 747-8 and 747-8F generically for the passenger and cargo models, but when referring to individual aircraft for exceptions etc. they use the Boeing customer codes, e.g. 747-830 (LH), 747-8KB (Qatar Amiri Flight) etc.


User currently offlinekrisyyz From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1593 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 11114 times:

Quoting bmacleod (Reply 13):
Any future for the 748i for FRA-YYZ?

Unlikely right now with AC codesharing 77Ws on this route....

I asked the same question, I doubt LH would put the 747-8 on the YYZ rotation, although I heard there is a chance of a few flights during the summer. AC would have to downgage their AC872 flight to a 763s or A333s but AC is making too much $ filling the 77Ws belly with cargo to FRA.

KrisYYZ


User currently offlineconaly From Germany, joined May 2005, 13 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10742 times:

How is the 748i actually doing? Is LH satisfied with the new jumbo so far, especially in comparison to the A380 and the 744. And how do the pax like it?


Regards, Dimitri
User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10734 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10615 times:

Quoting conaly (Reply 18):
How is the 748i actually doing? Is LH satisfied with the new jumbo so far, especially in comparison to the A380 and the 744. And how do the pax like it?

My sources all say the 748I is doing great, LH and pax being very happy with it. I havent heard the slightest negative comment, and my LH connections are good enough they wouldnt hide such from me if there are any issues.


User currently offlineNorcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1447 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 10570 times:

Quoting DID747 (Thread starter):
sometimes the LH418 Frankfurt-Washington, is flying over my house, using D-ABYA, D-ABYC and this week D-ABYF., but I don't know the other routes...

I flew D-ABYA FRA-IAD this past Sunday so I am guessing by this weekend it's tomorrow and Sunday  
Quoting conaly (Reply 18):
And how do the pax like it?

I personally loved it...but LH pitch in Y is crap! The only other time I'll fly them is in J or rather when I am traveling to Germany on business.



If you're going through hell, keep going
User currently offlinegytr31 From New Zealand, joined Aug 2011, 34 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 9429 times:

Quoting Wilco737 (Reply 15):
D-ABYB has been skipped due to the accident with that registration back then.

Is this Flight 540 that you are referring to by any chance?


User currently offlinemabadia71 From Costa Rica, joined Nov 2008, 76 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 9410 times:

Quoting gytr31 (Reply 21):

Is this Flight 540 that you are referring to by any chance?

Yes that's the one



mabadia71
User currently offlinepnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2241 posts, RR: 12
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9269 times:

Quoting krisyyz (Reply 17):
Quoting bmacleod (Reply 13):
Any future for the 748i for FRA-YYZ?

Unlikely right now with AC codesharing 77Ws on this route....

I asked the same question, I doubt LH would put the 747-8 on the YYZ rotation, although I heard there is a chance of a few flights during the summer. AC would have to downgage their AC872 flight to a 763s or A333s but AC is making too much $ filling the 77Ws belly with cargo to FRA.

KrisYYZ

I keep hearing the rumour once a few more 748i's get into the fleet, YYZ will see it occasionally as a marketing/publicity push but not a regular scheduled route.

The LH 748i is also very premium heavy and I am not sure there is enough front traffic to take the additional First and Business seats. The flight is profit share not just codeshare so it doesn't matter what metal the passenger flies for AC or LH profit. However, the cargo isn't profit share so as pointed out above, AC likes the cargo that fills the 77W belly. The route is very cargo profitable. Now should cargo be added to profit share there could be more movement back and forth and onto the LH MD11F.


User currently offlinereality From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 8455 times:

Quoting DID747 (Reply 14):
OK 747-8i, I think everyone understood I didn't talk about 747-100, 200, 300, 400 when I said 747-800I, it was very close to 747-8i, isn't it?
I didn't know a dictionary was talking with us...

He was just trying to be helpful--and in a nice way. It's always good to use correct terminology even though the meaning may be clear without it. I don't think it was meant as a personal attack.


25 Post contains images TrijetsRMissed : Glad it's on it's way. Will ORD continue as a mix of 748s and & 744s for some years, or is it expected to become 748I exclusively? Excellent news
26 Post contains images Wilco737 : The 748 get a new version: 8/80/298. That means not really heavy premium than others. The 744 has 8/80/242 (or 234) and during winter 8/66/270. And a
27 na : As much as I know thats only for the winter and is going to be changed again in a few months.
28 Post contains images Wilco737 : Yes, same for the 744. In summer with 80 C class and during winter with 66 C class. They change that basically every summer/ winter. wilco737
29 LH506 : Does anybody have the names for the existing and for next few aircraft to come?
30 Post contains images Wilco737 : D-ABYA Brandenburg D-ABYC Sachsen D-ABYD Mecklenburg- Vorpommern D-ABYF Sachsen- Anhalt. Names for the future airplanes are not known yet. But it cou
31 chris7217 : FRA-HKG will follow in February 2013 replacing the daily -400.[Edited 2012-12-01 03:26:44]
32 Post contains images LH506 : Quoting LH506 (Reply 29): Does anybody have the names for the existing and for next few aircraft to come? D-ABYA Brandenburg D-ABYC Sachsen D-ABYD Mec
33 B747forever : So HKG is next after LAX?
34 Post contains images point2point : LH recently switched their 346 to a 744 on their FRA-DEN route for this summer. Since this change was pretty recent, I guess that DEN isn't going to b
35 N1120A : Of course they put cargo on the plane. That said, they also haul a ton of premium traffic. By percentage, its very premium heavy (as are their 744s).
36 TK739ER : I was thinking about the same thing, now some here say 748 is premium heavy and some its not, what is the structure of this route, is it also premium
37 ghost77 : Has LH considered MEX?? LH once flew 10X to MEX and for the 3rd time has cancelled attempts to start MUC-MEX. Would be great and ahead of all airlines
38 Post contains images Wilco737 : I am sure LH is considering MEX as well, especially as MEX-FRA is sometimes pretty difficult to do in the 744. I mean the elevation of MEX is pretty
39 Post contains images lh526 : I guess that includes another design assignment by LH?
40 DID747 : does anybody know flight numbers for LH 747-8i routes?
41 Post contains links and images Wilco737 : Easy to find out on www.lufthansa.de FRA-IAD-FRA: LH418/419 FRA-DEL-FRA: LH760/761 FRA-BLR-FRA: LH754/755 wilco737
42 DID747 : Thank you very much Wilco for your good informations, always... Hope to see them over my house too when they will fly to LAX...
43 Post contains links Norcal773 : Check out this site, you'll be able to track them wherever they're at to see. http://www.flightradar24.com/LOT9787 I've noticed LH418 has been runnin
44 Post contains images wilco737 : Weather in FRA. Snow and rain and wind... And then chaos in FRA. And as there are no spare 748's which can be used, they run a little late. wilco737
45 na : No, LH jobs unfortunately never take me much further than FRA. Snowfall is pretty early this year. Twice in two days in early December, quite unusual
46 Norcal773 : Ooh yikes! I guess I visited Germany right on time and left before the snowfall! UA 903 though has been on time all week so maybe snow isn't as bad i
47 na : Wilco, is the Delhi route 100% 748I now, or the odd 744 still flying on that route sometimes?
48 Post contains images wilco737 : AFAIK it is daily at the moment. Every once in a while I see a 744 to IAD in the booking system. BLR will be reduced when the next 748i destination a
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