DID747 From France, joined Apr 2005, 400 posts, RR: 1 Posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 11187 times:
Dear,
Would like to know how many B747-800I Lufthansa is operating now, and on what routes?
sometimes the LH418 Frankfurt-Washington, is flying over my house, using D-ABYA, D-ABYC and this week D-ABYF., but I don't know the other routes...
steman From Germany, joined Aug 2000, 1275 posts, RR: 8 Reply 5, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10715 times:
D-ABYE is being retained at Boeing for further tests, probably connected with the activation of the tank in the tail.
It will be delivered in 2015.
Next year 5 more are to join the fleet.
7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 507 posts, RR: 3 Reply 10, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10103 times:
Quoting Heavierthanair (Reply 9): How come they need in excess of two years to test / certify something that has been there from the beginning?
Part of that time will relate to testing but modifying the airplane from flight test configuration back to the customer configuration will take up a lot of time.
Except for the first 747 (RA001), 767 (VA001) and 757 (NA001) all the airplanes Boeing has used in flight test have gone eventually to the airlines. The first 777 (WA001) is owned by CAT.
strandedinbgm From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 329 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 10024 times:
DID747 From France, joined Apr 2005, 400 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9578 times:
OK 747-8i, I think everyone understood I didn't talk about 747-100, 200, 300, 400 when I said 747-800I, it was very close to 747-8i, isn't it?
I didn't know a dictionary was talking with us...
Wilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8473 posts, RR: 78 Reply 15, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9525 times:
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It has been said above: D-ABYA, D-ABYC, D-ABYD and D-ABYF (which I flew today, brandnew).
D-ABYB has been skipped due to the accident with that registration back then. And D-ABYE will be joining later as Boeing wants to keep that airplane a little longer.
IAD, BLR, DEL are served at the moment with the 748i, LAX will start December 10th and the next destination is known as well, but I cannot tell.
ORD will follow in 2013 as well and some others are in the pipeline as well...
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21481 posts, RR: 24 Reply 16, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9523 times:
Quoting overcast (Reply 12): Quoting travelavnut (Reply 2):
It's 747-8i and not 747-800I
Not exactly, Boeing use 747-8i for marketing, but the lufthansa 747 is an 830 according to the FAA. Same thing for the freighters. Atlas's are 87uf.
The FAA type certificate data sheet uses 747-8 and 747-8F generically for the passenger and cargo models, but when referring to individual aircraft for exceptions etc. they use the Boeing customer codes, e.g. 747-830 (LH), 747-8KB (Qatar Amiri Flight) etc.
krisyyz From Canada, joined Nov 2004, 1575 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9226 times:
Quoting bmacleod (Reply 13): Any future for the 748i for FRA-YYZ?
Unlikely right now with AC codesharing 77Ws on this route....
I asked the same question, I doubt LH would put the 747-8 on the YYZ rotation, although I heard there is a chance of a few flights during the summer. AC would have to downgage their AC872 flight to a 763s or A333s but AC is making too much $ filling the 77Ws belly with cargo to FRA.
conaly From Germany, joined May 2005, 9 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 8854 times:
How is the 748i actually doing? Is LH satisfied with the new jumbo so far, especially in comparison to the A380 and the 744. And how do the pax like it?
na From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 9613 posts, RR: 10 Reply 19, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 8727 times:
Quoting conaly (Reply 18): How is the 748i actually doing? Is LH satisfied with the new jumbo so far, especially in comparison to the A380 and the 744. And how do the pax like it?
My sources all say the 748I is doing great, LH and pax being very happy with it. I havent heard the slightest negative comment, and my LH connections are good enough they wouldnt hide such from me if there are any issues.
Norcal773 From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 1280 posts, RR: 12 Reply 20, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 8682 times:
Quoting DID747 (Thread starter): sometimes the LH418 Frankfurt-Washington, is flying over my house, using D-ABYA, D-ABYC and this week D-ABYF., but I don't know the other routes...
I flew D-ABYA FRA-IAD this past Sunday so I am guessing by this weekend it's tomorrow and Sunday
pnwtraveler From Canada, joined Jun 2007, 2046 posts, RR: 12 Reply 23, posted (5 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 7381 times:
Quoting krisyyz (Reply 17): Quoting bmacleod (Reply 13):
Any future for the 748i for FRA-YYZ?
Unlikely right now with AC codesharing 77Ws on this route....
I asked the same question, I doubt LH would put the 747-8 on the YYZ rotation, although I heard there is a chance of a few flights during the summer. AC would have to downgage their AC872 flight to a 763s or A333s but AC is making too much $ filling the 77Ws belly with cargo to FRA.
KrisYYZ
I keep hearing the rumour once a few more 748i's get into the fleet, YYZ will see it occasionally as a marketing/publicity push but not a regular scheduled route.
The LH 748i is also very premium heavy and I am not sure there is enough front traffic to take the additional First and Business seats. The flight is profit share not just codeshare so it doesn't matter what metal the passenger flies for AC or LH profit. However, the cargo isn't profit share so as pointed out above, AC likes the cargo that fills the 77W belly. The route is very cargo profitable. Now should cargo be added to profit share there could be more movement back and forth and onto the LH MD11F.
reality From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 375 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (5 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6567 times:
Quoting DID747 (Reply 14): OK 747-8i, I think everyone understood I didn't talk about 747-100, 200, 300, 400 when I said 747-800I, it was very close to 747-8i, isn't it?
I didn't know a dictionary was talking with us...
He was just trying to be helpful--and in a nice way. It's always good to use correct terminology even though the meaning may be clear without it. I don't think it was meant as a personal attack.
25 TrijetsRMissed: Glad it's on it's way. Will ORD continue as a mix of 748s and & 744s for some years, or is it expected to become 748I exclusively? Excellent news
26 Wilco737: The 748 get a new version: 8/80/298. That means not really heavy premium than others. The 744 has 8/80/242 (or 234) and during winter 8/66/270. And a
27 na: As much as I know thats only for the winter and is going to be changed again in a few months.
28 Wilco737: Yes, same for the 744. In summer with 80 C class and during winter with 66 C class. They change that basically every summer/ winter. wilco737
29 LH506: Does anybody have the names for the existing and for next few aircraft to come?
30 Wilco737: D-ABYA Brandenburg D-ABYC Sachsen D-ABYD Mecklenburg- Vorpommern D-ABYF Sachsen- Anhalt. Names for the future airplanes are not known yet. But it cou
31 chris7217: FRA-HKG will follow in February 2013 replacing the daily -400.[Edited 2012-12-01 03:26:44]
32 LH506: Quoting LH506 (Reply 29): Does anybody have the names for the existing and for next few aircraft to come? D-ABYA Brandenburg D-ABYC Sachsen D-ABYD Mec
34 point2point: LH recently switched their 346 to a 744 on their FRA-DEN route for this summer. Since this change was pretty recent, I guess that DEN isn't going to b
35 N1120A: Of course they put cargo on the plane. That said, they also haul a ton of premium traffic. By percentage, its very premium heavy (as are their 744s).
36 TK739ER: I was thinking about the same thing, now some here say 748 is premium heavy and some its not, what is the structure of this route, is it also premium
37 ghost77: Has LH considered MEX?? LH once flew 10X to MEX and for the 3rd time has cancelled attempts to start MUC-MEX. Would be great and ahead of all airlines
38 Wilco737: I am sure LH is considering MEX as well, especially as MEX-FRA is sometimes pretty difficult to do in the 744. I mean the elevation of MEX is pretty
39 lh526: I guess that includes another design assignment by LH?
40 DID747: does anybody know flight numbers for LH 747-8i routes?
41 Wilco737: Easy to find out on www.lufthansa.de FRA-IAD-FRA: LH418/419 FRA-DEL-FRA: LH760/761 FRA-BLR-FRA: LH754/755 wilco737
42 DID747: Thank you very much Wilco for your good informations, always... Hope to see them over my house too when they will fly to LAX...
43 Norcal773: Check out this site, you'll be able to track them wherever they're at to see. http://www.flightradar24.com/LOT9787 I've noticed LH418 has been runnin
44 wilco737: Weather in FRA. Snow and rain and wind... And then chaos in FRA. And as there are no spare 748's which can be used, they run a little late. wilco737
45 na: No, LH jobs unfortunately never take me much further than FRA. Snowfall is pretty early this year. Twice in two days in early December, quite unusual
46 Norcal773: Ooh yikes! I guess I visited Germany right on time and left before the snowfall! UA 903 though has been on time all week so maybe snow isn't as bad i
47 na: Wilco, is the Delhi route 100% 748I now, or the odd 744 still flying on that route sometimes?
48 wilco737: AFAIK it is daily at the moment. Every once in a while I see a 744 to IAD in the booking system. BLR will be reduced when the next 748i destination a
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