brucek From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 245 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2411 times:
I’m wondering if anyone near or at SFO, or with access to ATIS, can inform whether SFO is using the 19’s for both takeoffs and landings today. A quote form the METAR file:
as739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5819 posts, RR: 23 Reply 2, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2372 times:
Bruce
We are departing 10L/R and arriving 19L currently (1600). At the time you post the ATIS (1300) the departures would be using 19R and 19L for larger a/c pending weights and climb performance.
n471wn From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1181 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2274 times:
Since SFO will not take on the environmental whacko's in the Bay Area and build a new runway......it would be wise if people took their domestic flights out of Oakland or San Jose----hardly ever any delays there.
brucek From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 245 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2217 times:
Thnaks for the replies, much appreciated.
as739x, the flight you referenced on FlightAware (UA381), I'm not sure if this is your's or not (your handle doesn't match ), but look at that sharp left turn on take-off.... I recall being a pax on a CO MD80 years ago and experiencing that departure during similar weather.
I got my private license at SQL, runway is 30/12, would be one heck of a crosswind for a C152 today.....
Goldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5427 posts, RR: 13 Reply 6, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2026 times:
Quoting brucek (Reply 4): I got my private license at SQL, runway is 30/12, would be one heck of a crosswind for a C152 today.....
Actually, SQL has relatively light winds today, unlike its neighbor to the north.
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rickabone From United States of America, joined May 2006, 66 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1428 times:
Quoting n471wn (Reply 3): Since SFO will not take on the environmental whacko's in the Bay Area and build a new runway......it would be wise if people took their domestic flights out of Oakland or San Jose----hardly ever any delays there.
Actually, none of that might be necessary soon. SFO is working on implementing a new simultaneous approach system called CASPRS, (Pronounced like Casper the Friendly Ghost) a part of NEXTGEN that would allow slightly offset approaches to the closely spaced parallels even in zero visibility thanks to different glideslope angles combined with about a mile and a half offset on the arrivals. It will still be a lower arrival rate than normal visual sideby's, but it will significantly reduce delays and should be in place by 2014.
n471wn From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1181 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (5 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 1425 times:
Quoting rickabone (Reply 8): Actually, none of that might be necessary soon. SFO is working on implementing a new simultaneous approach system called CASPRS, (Pronounced like Casper the Friendly Ghost) a part of NEXTGEN that would allow slightly offset approaches to the closely spaced parallels even in zero visibility thanks to different glideslope angles combined with about a mile and a half offset on the arrivals. It will still be a lower arrival rate than normal visual sideby's, but it will significantly reduce delays and should be in place by 2014.
I would still like a new runway but this will no doubt help!
EASTERN747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 377 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (5 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1369 times:
Why not extend the Bart line to Oakland and get rid of that damn inconvienent bus crap!
legacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1827 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (5 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1274 times:
Quoting n471wn (Reply 12):
Quoting EASTERN747 (Reply 11):
Why not extend the Bart line to Oakland and get rid of that damn inconvienent bus crap!
Being done now----will be ready end of next year!!
Sort of. It will be a people moving system from the Bart Station to the airport. Plus, there is a fee, not sure how much, to use the system. Unlike SFO, where the Bart train goes directly into the airport.
n471wn From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1181 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (5 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1250 times:
Quoting legacyins (Reply 13): Sort of. It will be a people moving system from the Bart Station to the airport. Plus, there is a fee, not sure how much, to use the system. Unlike SFO, where the Bart train goes directly into the airport.
Yes there will be a fee to go to OAK but the fee to go to SFO is built into the BART ticket---same difference.
modesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2629 posts, RR: 6 Reply 16, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 820 times:
I was at SFO this morning, waiting for my 0745L departure as a non-revenue standby. Departures were using 19R and because of the short runway length, the 767 operating SFO-ATL was subject to performance limitations that resulted in weight restrictions. None of the non-revs boarded, but it made for some awesome views of the sharp left turns from the 19 departures. By 0830L, winds had shifted in favor of the 28s, and my 0845L departure used 28L for take-off. What a crazy morning!
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), but look at that sharp left turn on take-off.... I recall being a pax on a CO MD80 years ago and experiencing that departure during similar weather.
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