spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 13633 times:
Horrible news. How far off the runway did it go? It seems like it must've gone pretty far to hit 15 houses!
R.I.P. to all those lost and/or have lost loved-ones in this tragedy.
redzeppelin From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 277 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 13052 times:
Looking at satellite images of the airfield, it seems like they must have been landing on 23R. It looks like there is a neighborhood off the end of the runway, followed by a strip of vegetation that could be a ravine, then another cluster of buildings beyond the ravine...
KC135Hydraulics From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 165 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (5 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 13007 times:
Third world aviation strikes again. Condolences of course to those who lost their family members in this accident.
SW733 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 6072 posts, RR: 10 Reply 6, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 11812 times:
Quoting cloud4000 (Reply 4):
Flying in Africa is always an adventure, especially with old Soviet airframes like the IL-76. That aircraft has a weird approach...
It is best not to categorize Africa as one entity when it comes to aviation safety...
Well, any generalization is probably just that, generalization. That said, our African governments MUST take collective action to put a stop to these needless carnages. Until they do that, we will be the laughing stock of the World and of A.net too.
That's sort of like saying that since the UK, Germany, and France have are major players in the global economy, Moldova is too, since they're on the same continent. Africa is a variegated continent - I would trust SAA much more than some of the other airlines therein.
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bond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5098 posts, RR: 8 Reply 11, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 10660 times:
Quoting beiaard (Reply 10): That's sort of like saying that since the UK, Germany, and France have are major players in the global economy, Moldova is too, since they're on the same continent. Africa is a variegated continent - I would trust SAA much more than some of the other airlines therein.
No, it's not "sort of like saying" that!
It's like saying that if Europe is a major player in the global economy, then Moldova is included, since it's part of Europe.
If the statistics are such that Africa has the worse aviation record, in terms of crashes, then of course that includes all countries in the continent.
Yes, a generalization for sure .... but not incorrect (if it's a fact!).
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AirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 852 posts, RR: 3 Reply 12, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7883 times:
Quoting beiaard (Reply 10): That's sort of like saying that since the UK, Germany, and France have are major players in the global economy, Moldova is too, since they're on the same continent.
But Air Moldova is an excellent airline. I flew with their EM190 and even EM120: great service, knowing their technical staff, the maintenance of the aircraft is perfect. And Chisinau airport is very modern, clean and efficient!
I wonder why you used Moldova as a comparison. Have you got some inside knowledge of the aviation industry there? That's a pretty cheap shot at a country with a long history of aviation... If you make such statements, please back them up with facts and links.
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Aesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 4794 posts, RR: 9 Reply 14, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 6509 times:
Sad tragedy.
Quoting ETinCaribe (Reply 8): Well, any generalization is probably just that, generalization. That said, our African governments MUST take collective action to put a stop to these needless carnages. Until they do that, we will be the laughing stock of the World and of A.net too.
As tragic as these crashes are, far worse things happen daily in these regions unfortunately, and should be dealt with first. In fact the violence on the ground is the reason many things and people fly to begin with.
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Polot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 1500 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 6362 times:
Quoting AirGabon (Reply 12): But Air Moldova is an excellent airline. I flew with their EM190 and even EM120: great service, knowing their technical staff, the maintenance of the aircraft is perfect. And Chisinau airport is very modern, clean and efficient!
Quoting vio (Reply 13): I wonder why you used Moldova as a comparison. Have you got some inside knowledge of the aviation industry there? That's a pretty cheap shot at a country with a long history of aviation... If you make such statements, please back them up with facts and links.
If you actually read what he said before your kneejerk reactions you will see that he was not comparing Moldova's aviation industry with the UK, Germany, and France, he was comparing their economies. He is not bashing Moldova...he is just making a valid point.
Anyways hope the death toll doesn't go up any more.
asctty From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2008, 72 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 6045 times:
It is indeed a tragic accident. Most of those posting here are preempting the outcome of any crash investigation whilst generalising about the state of African airlines.
Wait for the facts first please.
ushermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2889 posts, RR: 18 Reply 17, posted (5 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 4176 times:
Quoting asctty (Reply 16): It is indeed a tragic accident. Most of those posting here are preempting the outcome of any crash investigation whilst generalising about the state of African airlines.
Wait for the facts first please.
There are no more facts needed to emphasize the dangers of flying in Central Africa.
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