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Is JetBlue Going With One Tail Design?  
User currently offlinedoulasc From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 579 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9631 times:

I have noticed the few planes JetBlue has redone in the big billboard titles a new tail design goes with
it. Its the tail design that doesn't completly cover the tail. I would hate to see the various tail designs
disappear. My favorite being the bubbles. It seems JetBlue has stalled on redoing their planes in the
bigger titles.

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User currently offlinedoulasc From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9573 times:

I spoke too soon,I just looked at JetBlue photos from 2012,looks like all aircraft redone in big titles have two different tail designs with the other being stripes with different colors,

User currently offlinebos2laf From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9574 times:

I've actually seen some with the new billboard titles with the classic tail designs.

So far I've seen Stripes and Bubbles with the new billboard titles. I think the aircraft are being repainted as they go in for heavy maintenance checks.

To answer your question: I highly doubt they are going with one tail design.


User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1516 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9559 times:

A problem (small albeit) I notice when flying is that when people see an older tail design, some of the people that have seen B6 over the years know they are on an older plane.

When you have one livery, unless you look it up it is harder to know whether you are on a new or old plane. (i.e. Unless I look it up, I don't know how old the DL 737-800 is.)

Quoting doulasc (Thread starter):
Its the tail design that doesn't completly cover the tail.

Blueberries? http://www.jetblue.com/travel/planes/?intcmp=hd_travel_planes

Quoting doulasc (Reply 1):
the other being stripes with different colors,

Just so you know, its called Barcode.

[Edited 2012-12-02 16:29:33]


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User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2572 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9452 times:

Quoting bos2laf (Reply 2):
I think the aircraft are being repainted as they go in for heavy maintenance checks.

Myself was wondering about their repainting. I was thinking they are being very slow with repainting the E190s. Seem the A320s are being repainted at a faster pace, but I could be wrong. But as you say, its probably done when they go in for heavy maintenance. I always end up getting the E190 or A320 with the classic livery. Never ended up on the '' bubbles '' or '' barcode '' etc with bold font on fuselage.....



greenheart
User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1516 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9425 times:

Quoting airjamaica (Reply 4):
Never ended up on the '' bubbles '' or '' barcode '' etc with bold font on fuselage.....

Bubbles is a classic one, Blueberries is the newer one.



"When everything seems to be going against you, remember that the airplane takes off against the wind, not with it."- HF
User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9410 times:

Quoting doulasc (Thread starter):

There's actually three new designs with the billboard titles. N587JB has the "building blocks" tail, which is my second-favorite B6 tail scheme, behind the barcode. The issue, though, is that ONLY N587JB has the building blocks. I personally consider it a soecial scheme because it is one of a kind.


User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2572 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9329 times:

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 5):
Bubbles is a classic one, Blueberries is the newer one.

My bad...Meant to say '' Blueberries ''.............thanks



greenheart
User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1516 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9318 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 6):
There's actually three new designs with the billboard titles.

There are actually 6. Barcode, Blueberries, 10th Anniversary, NY's hometown airline, Boston Red Sox and Building Blocks.



"When everything seems to be going against you, remember that the airplane takes off against the wind, not with it."- HF
User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8964 times:

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 8):

Thanks, but I was just referring to normal colorschemes, not actually special colorschemes.


User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3180 posts, RR: 19
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8744 times:
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There is also at least one A320 with the harlequin tail that has received billboard titles. It's a registration in the 600s, I think it might be 646. I've worked on it twice now.

With the E190s, the newest deliveries all have the barcode tail. The next newest frames in the Embraer fleet all have the blueberries tail. These two tails represent ship numbers 317 and higher (I believe our newest E190 is tail 353).

On the Airbus fleet it's not as easy to tell anymore. Many of the planes are getting repainted into the barcode pattern and this represents tail numbers of all ages, from 508 (one of our oldest frames) all the way to 809 (our newest frame). Many of the 7-series A320s (these are the A320s with slimline seats and enhanced LED lighting) actually have the bubbles fin.

One tail fin we no longer have is the tartan pattern. It wasn't painted on many frames, mostly just the A320s with registrations in the 580s and 590s.


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[Edited 2012-12-02 20:10:09]

User currently onlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13529 posts, RR: 100
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8696 times:
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Quoting airliner371 (Reply 3):

A problem (small albeit) I notice when flying is that when people see an older tail design, some of the people that have seen B6 over the years know they are on an older plane.

   That is why B6 stopped doing a new tail every year. However, I hoped they would keep the large variety. Perhaps they will retire older tails and then after say a 3 or 4 year break bring them back?

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineJBLUA320 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3180 posts, RR: 19
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 8648 times:
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Quoting lightsaber (Reply 11):
That is why B6 stopped doing a new tail every year.

That's certainly a big part of it, but there is also a cost savings realized by streamlining the tail patterns. Less complex patterns (and fewer patterns in total) all reduces cost and simplifies the cost structure. For example, the complexity of the tartan pattern made it unviable, hence why it's now gone. Interesting bit, though, is that many of the men have the tartan pattern on our ties and the pattern is also on many of the women's scarves.


User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8615 times:

Quoting JBLUA320 (Reply 10):
On the Airbus fleet it's not as easy to tell anymore. Many of the planes are getting repainted into the barcode pattern and this represents tail numbers of all ages, from 508 (one of our oldest frames) all the way to 809 (our newest frame). Many of the 7-series A320s (these are the A320s with slimline seats and enhanced LED lighting) actually have the bubbles fin.

Seems like I see more barcode than anything else by Jet Blue lately - so that explains it


User currently offlineairjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2572 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8574 times:

Quoting JBLUA320 (Reply 10):
On the Airbus fleet it's not as easy to tell anymore. Many of the planes are getting repainted into the barcode pattern and this represents tail numbers of all ages, from 508 (one of our oldest frames) all the way to 809 (our newest frame).
Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 13):
Seems like I see more barcode than anything else by Jet Blue lately - so that explains it

Very true from my observations. The '' barcode '' is the most frequently seen tails on the JFK-KIN, JFK-MBJ & BOS-MBJ runs.



greenheart
User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1516 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8538 times:

I found 2 pictures of B6 older tails with the billboard...
http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=330258
http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=325194
http://www.planespotters.net/Aviation_Photos/photo.show?id=321525

And here is proof they are repainting....
http://www.planespotters.net/Product...20/2336,N599JB-JetBlue-Airways.php

Quoting JBLUA320 (Reply 10):
One tail fin we no longer have is the tartan pattern.

Interesting, I didn't realize that. The tail that by far needs to go, it should have been the first to go, its the most boring of them all, is Dots. I hate it.

[Edited 2012-12-02 21:32:27]


"When everything seems to be going against you, remember that the airplane takes off against the wind, not with it."- HF
User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8350 times:

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 15):

Actually, the tartan pattern in plaid, not dots.


User currently offlineSXDFC From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 2442 posts, RR: 23
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8272 times:

N655JB currently wears the special "100th A320" tail design and sticker on the side of the fuselage. Does anyone know if 655 will keep this special tail when its repainted? Also does anyone know when this particular plane is due for new paint?


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User currently offlinedoulasc From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 579 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 7551 times:

I hope they do not get rid of bubbles. When the new A320 NEOs and A321s come in 2013 it will be interesting
what tail designs they will have.


User currently offlineaerlingusa330 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 359 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 7017 times:

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 11):
That is why B6 stopped doing a new tail every year. However, I hoped they would keep the large variety. Perhaps they will retire older tails and then after say a 3 or 4 year break bring them back?

Why don't they just paint the first few tail designs on new deliveries? Wouldn't it make sense to rotate designs on every couple new airplanes they receive? This would eliminate the pax observations that old tail design = old aircraft.



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User currently offlineNASBWI From Bahamas, joined Feb 2005, 1320 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 5267 times:

Quoting aerlingusa330 (Reply 19):
Wouldn't it make sense to rotate designs on every couple new airplanes they receive? This would eliminate the pax observations that old tail design = old aircraft.

I believe that approach was tried in 2006, when (IIRC) tail 636 was delivered in the original 'stripes' tail design, and subsequent deliveries recycled the older designs (harlequin, dots, bubbles, and mosaic) through the high -700 tail series, when both 'blueberries' and 'barcode' were introduced.

On the E190s, however, the tail designs were random from the get-go (in fact, I think 'harlequin' was the first E90 tail to be delivered, not stripes..and mosaic was the 2nd or 3rd).

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 6):
The issue, though, is that ONLY N587JB has the building blocks. I personally consider it a soecial scheme because it is one of a kind.

I'm of the impression that 587 will continue to be the only aircraft to have that tail (much like blue100). The designer of the tail colors is an employee that won the contest, and IIRC, the deal was that the winning design would be a one-off, and not made a standard. I agree though, that it is very catchy, and I would've like to see it on more tails.



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User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2902 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3605 times:

We are not going with 1 tail design. They did go a little overboard with the "barcode" tail because the new deliveries were coming in with the "barcode" and the re-paints in ROW were also getting "barcode" However, the planes going through ROW at this time are getting "classic" tails (but still going with the billboard titles), and based on my knowledge a new one will be thrown into the mix in 2013.


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User currently offlinecanyonblue17 From United States of America, joined Oct 2008, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 3577 times:

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 8):
There are actually 6. Barcode, Blueberries, 10th Anniversary, NY's hometown airline, Boston Red Sox and Building Blocks.

You left out the New York Jets paint scheme.


User currently offlineB6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2902 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2982 times:

The full list of the 15 different tail designs is (and names are as per the internal B6 tail listing page so these are what the airline calls the tails now)...sorry, they're not in order of design, just going off the pics on here:

BOS Red Sox:


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Barcode:


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Photo © Jeremy D. Dando



Dots:


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Photo © Yan David



Mosaic:


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Photo © Ryotaro Shinozaki



Harlequin:


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Window Pane:


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Bubbles:


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Blueberries:


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Stripes:


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Photo © Mark L. Pollio



I [Heart] New York


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Plaid (being phased out from fleet):


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Blue 100:


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Building Blocks:


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NY Jets:


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10th Anniversary:


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The "Classic Tails" actually did come on some of the newer deliveries, and are also being incorporated into the paint line now in ROW so you are seeing the "Classic Tails" with billboard titles...got to see a couple recently.

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 15):
And here is proof they are repainting....


Aircraft re-painting is a normal thing for an airline to do, no proof needed LOL. We have been re-painting aircraft since 2005 actually (N503JB was done in early December 2005). We have moved locations/business partners over the years. We have used facilities in VCV, SLW, and currently ROW. Standby for the E190's to start rolling through the re-paint lines in 2013. To date, B6 has re-painted the following aircraft (I think I got 'em all):

N503JB
N504JB
N505JB
N506JB
N508JL
N509JB
N510JB
N516JB
N517JB
N519JB
N520JB
N521JB
N523JB
N524JB
N526JL
N529JB
N531JL
N534JB
N535JB
N536JB
N547JB
N552JB
N554JB
N556JB
N558JB
N559JB
N561JB
N562JB
N563JB
N564JB
N565JB
N566JB
N568JB
N569JB
N570JB
N571JB
N579JB
N580JB
N583JB
N584JB
N585JB
N586JB
N587JB
N588JB
N589JB
N590JB
N591JB
N592JB
N593JB
N594JB
N595JB
N597JB
N598JB
N599JB
N603JB
N605JB
N618JB
N621JB
N623JB
N624JB
N625JB
N627JB
N630JB
N632JB
N633JB
N634JB
N639JB
N640JB
N643JB
N644JB
N645JB
N646JB
N648JB
N649JB
N651JB
N652JB
N653JB
N657JB
N659JB
N746JB
N779JB


Hope that helps. Now, believe it or not, I have to get back to the fleet-wide paint inspection LOL.

~H81



"If you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it"
User currently offlineairliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 1516 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2957 times:

Quoting B6JFKH81 (Reply 23):
Aircraft re-painting is a normal thing for an airline to do, no proof needed LOL.

Hahaha, poor wording on my part, proof they are repainting old liveries to the newer ones.



"When everything seems to be going against you, remember that the airplane takes off against the wind, not with it."- HF
25 Post contains images jetblueguy22 : Complete bummer. For sure one of my favorites. I'm not a big fan of this blueberries scheme. Good to see that they aren't getting rid of different ta
26 icebird757 : The Tartan design was on a/c N585JB-N603JB
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