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1st 737 Lands At Troll Research Statn. Antarctica  
User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3943 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 14188 times:

For the first time a Boeing 737 lands at the Norwegian Troll research station in Antarctica.

In late November, a Boeing 737 landed for the first time at the Norwegian research station Troll in Dronning Maud Land, Antarctica.

So far the Hercules C-130 transport aircraft has been used to transport people and supplies to and from the research station.

Boeing 737 aircraft were tested to try out a more modern, secure and environmentally friendly alternative, says director of operations and logistics, Øystein Mikel Borg at the Norwegian Polar Institute.

- Boeing 737 aircraft with more modern equipment that improves safety, but also reduce our footprint in Antarctica because it reduces the need to transport fuel to the Troll.

Now the Norwegian Polar Institute will evaluate the flight.


Check out the pictures in the articles:

http://www.nrk.no/nyheter/distrikt/troms_og_finnmark/1.9385909

http://www.npolar.no/no/nyheter/2012/2012-12-03-forste-flyvning.html


Troll is a research station located at Jutulsessen, 235 kilometers (146 mi) from the coast in the eastern part of Princess Martha Coast in Queen Maud Land, Antarctica. It is Norway's only all-year research station in Antarctica, and is supplemented by the summer-only station Tor. Troll is operated by the Norwegian Polar Institute and also features facilities for the Norwegian Meteorological Institute, the Norwegian Institute for Air Research and Troll Satellite Station operated by Kongsberg Satellite Services.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_Station

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User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1361 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 13910 times:

Very cool (pun intended). Believe the Kiwi's have been running an A319 to their "airport" in Antarctica for a couple of years. Must be special landing a commercial airliner, with relatively little in the way of modifications, on the ice. In Antarctica to boot. Lucky guys  


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And here she is (gurgle was my friend):



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User currently offlineLARSHJORT From Denmark, joined Dec 2007, 1475 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 13412 times:

Privatair looking to expand thier business? Maybe charter flights one stop from US or europe to Antarctica.

Which C-130 have they been using so far? Norwegian Air Force? If so that would also free up some transport capacity in Norway.

/Lars



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User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 13236 times:

How long of a flight would it have been from CPT to the research station at Troll?

User currently offlineMCO2BRS From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2007, 540 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 13187 times:

Very cool to see commercial aircraft operating in such an environment (though my inner tree-hugger says we should leave the whole continent untouched).

How do they manage to de-ice aircraft in such environments? Do they have the infrastructure there to de-ice, or do they have to bring specialist equipment with them on each flight?

Cheers,

MCO 2 BRS


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15745 posts, RR: 27
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 13165 times:

Quoting MCO2BRS (Reply 4):
How do they manage to de-ice aircraft in such environments?

It is probably so cold and dry that they don't need to. I doubt they would fly in bad weather.



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User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 13165 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 1):
Very cool (pun intended). Believe the Kiwi's have been running an A319 to their "airport" in Antarctica for a couple of years. Must be special landing a commercial airliner, with relatively little in the way of modifications, on the ice. In Antarctica to boot. Lucky guys

Wow it seems strange seeing it out there but it looks great anyway, also has the perfect livery too haha.



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User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3943 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 13071 times:

Quoting LARSHJORT (Reply 2):
Which C-130 have they been using so far? Norwegian Air Force?

Yes, if you read artcile number 2 ( In Norwegian ) you can see picture of a Norwegian C-130 of the Royal Norwegian Airforce

Quoting MCO2BRS (Reply 4):
How do they manage to de-ice aircraft in such environments? Do they have the infrastructure there to de-ice, or do they have to bring specialist equipment with them on each flight?

Not sure about this. But it is the personell at the Troll who manages the operations at the airport ( Snowplowing, luggagehandling, fire and rescue etc )

Quoting 9252fly (Reply 3):
How long of a flight would it have been from CPT to the research station at Troll?

Up to nine hours on a C-130. Don't know with an B737...

Quoting LARSHJORT (Reply 2):
Privatair looking to expand thier business? Maybe charter flights one stop from US or europe to Antarctica.

The airport is not open for commercial or other private flights.

You can read more about the airfield here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_Airfield




Pictures curtesy of Norsk Polarinstitutt / Norwegian polarinstitute


User currently offlinePBNZ From New Zealand, joined Jan 2012, 14 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 12908 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 1):
Very cool (pun intended). Believe the Kiwi's have been running an A319 to their "airport" in Antarctica for a couple of years. Must be special landing a commercial airliner, with relatively little in the way of modifications, on the ice. In Antarctica to boot. Lucky guys  PSAnd here she is (gurgle was my friend):

Actually it's Australia who run the A319 down there, out of Hobart - NZ runs several NZ air force C-130 flights from Chch, along with the other deep freeze flights into McMurdo station. A few NZ air force B-757 flights have occurred also, but not sure if they're going to become regular.

Paul

[Edited 2012-12-04 15:14:49]

User currently offlineColAvionLover From Panama, joined Dec 2008, 109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 11874 times:
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Why to paint it white and not in another distinguishable color?


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User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11168 times:

Awesome that they are able to do this!

Quoting 9252fly (Reply 3):

As per the wikipedia article, it take up to 5.5 hours in the Hecules, so it probably isn't much different in a 737. I don't know the speed differences between the Il-76 and the 737, though.


User currently offlineRickNRoll From Afghanistan, joined Jan 2012, 830 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 11023 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 5):
It is probably so cold and dry that they don't need to. I doubt they would fly in bad weather.

Driest continent on earth.


User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4404 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10916 times:
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Wow thanks for sharing, very cool!

Is the 737 a -700 variant?



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User currently offlinejporterfi From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10899 times:

Quoting Mortyman (Reply 7):

The 5th picture looks like it could be a "snow salute" for the 737.  


User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 10832 times:

Very cool stuff indeed.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 5):
It is probably so cold and dry that they don't need to. I doubt they would fly in bad weather.

Dry and cold, probably no need. Up here we mostly de-ice in late fall/early spring, and once winter has fully set in there's often no need. Also it might be too cold to de-ice even if they wanted to, my de-ice training isn't up to date but -32c sticks in my head as the cutoff for spraying de-ice fluid, so below that the only way to de-ice is the old ladder and a broom anyway.

Quoting ColAvionLover (Reply 9):
Why to paint it white and not in another distinguishable color?

Probably just happened to be the colour of the aircraft that was available. Though I do agree with the idea that more colour would be better for safety, easier to spot if it goes down. That and I hate plain white aircraft no matter what the backround, everything (airplanes, trucks, houses) looks better with some colour and variety to it.



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User currently offlineMortyman From Norway, joined Aug 2006, 3943 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10642 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 10):
As per the wikipedia article, it take up to 5.5 hours in the Hecules, so it probably isn't much different in a 737. I don't know the speed differences between the Il-76 and the 737, though.

No, as the article states: up to 9,5 hours with a Hercules or 5,5 hours Il-76


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15745 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 10579 times:

Quoting CanadianNorth (Reply 14):
Though I do agree with the idea that more colour would be better for safety, easier to spot if it goes down.

The US Navy used to paint their DC-3s in a black and orange paint scheme for use up north for precisely that reason. The planes looked hideous though.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlinebthebest From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 507 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7836 times:

Do we know who the owner/operator of the 737 is?

User currently offlineCXB77L From Australia, joined Feb 2009, 2618 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 7598 times:
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Quoting iowaman (Reply 12):
Is the 737 a -700 variant?

If the photo posted in Reply 7 is the aircraft in question, then yes it's a 737-700.

Quoting bthebest (Reply 17):
Do we know who the owner/operator of the 737 is?

If I'm reading the registration correctly from the photo, I believe it could be HB-IIQ, which is a 737-700 owned by PrivatAir.



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User currently offlineUnitedTristar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6313 times:

I say they should sell tickets on it, not for anyone to get off the plane there but for people who want to see it out the window and say they have been on all continents!

I would buy a ticket!

It would also help subsidize the costs!

-m

  


User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 5856 times:

lol, I didn't realize that Troll was a name - I thought the news was that a 737 had landed at a fake (trolling) research station.


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25372 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3902 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 1):
Must be special landing a commercial airliner, with relatively little in the way of modifications, on the ice.

They've been doing it in the Canadian Arctic region for decades. Example below of a Pacific Western 737-200C combi operating a charter to an oil drilling site on the sea ice in March 1986. Temperature at the time -46C.

http://www.pwareunion.com/images/aircraft/B737-WestCornwall.JPG


That gravel kit-equipped 732 combi is still hard at work at age 31, now with Canadian North.


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User currently offlinebond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3901 times:

Quoting Mortyman (Thread starter):
Boeing 737 aircraft were tested to try out a more modern, secure and environmentally friendly alternative

Lol ... exactly how many flights do they have to this location? The population could all comfortably fit on a single B737 I believe!


Jimbo



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User currently offlineJAAlbert From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1604 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3736 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 21):
That gravel kit-equipped 732 combi is still hard at work at age 31, now with Canadian North.

What's a gravel kit?

Normally, I do not like white planes. But, here I think the photo of the white 737 with just a square of red on the tail is quite stylish looking amid all the white of the landscape. The plane with its winglets looks clean and bright.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15745 posts, RR: 27
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3708 times:

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 23):
What's a gravel kit?

On the 737 it consisted of a deflector plate behind the nose wheel and a device that protruded out in front of each engine through which bleed air was blown downwards to keep gravel out of the engines. I think that some 727s were also fitted out for gravel runways, but of course only had the gravel deflector since the engines were up out of the way already.



Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
User currently offlineczbbflier From Canada, joined Jul 2006, 974 posts, RR: 2
Reply 25, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 3642 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 21):
Example below of a Pacific Western 737-200C combi

Oh, good old PW in PW colours before all the 'modern' mess-up of the industry. Woe for CP, woe for PW, woe for WD...

Here's a gravel deflector closer up...
On a Canadian North aircraft:
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/3/0/3/0686303.jpg

And even closer, on an Iranian government B737
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/4/3/4/1468434.jpg


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