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DOT Awards AirTran DEN-SJD, Strips Republic

LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22024 posts, RR: 51
Posted (5 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2505 times:

DOT today is out with designation decision that grants AirTran its requested Denver-San Jose del Cabo route authority.

AirTran argued that Republic Airlines which held dormant authority in this limited entry market had failed to utilize these rights since 2008 creating circumstances that were not in the public interest.

DOT agrees.

AirTran proposes to commence year-round DEN-SJD service within 90-days of receipt of all regulatory approvals.

OST-2012-0190

From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California

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airliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 878 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2455 times:

No surprise at all.

Not to hijack the thread but what does anyone think of FL entering GDL and PVR (from anywhere). I know WN offered to start FL service on GDL-SNA when interjet applied but SNA wanted competition. GDL can't be far away from starting.

"The road to success is actually a runway"

jporterfi From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (5 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2336 times:

Quoting airliner371 (Reply 1):

Honestly, I was very surprised when WN/FL started this expansion into Mexico from Western cities. I think PVR would be a good route to start, either as year-round or as a summer-only route (I'm not sure if they can successfully compete with UA and F9 on this route if they do it year-round).

I don't know much about GDL in terms of how much of a tourist destination it is, but it looks like it has pretty good coverage by other American carriers. Because UA and F9 aren't in this market, I think WN has a shot at being successful with it.

Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21217 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (5 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1717 times:

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 2):
I don't know much about GDL in terms of how much of a tourist destination it is,

It's not, but it's a huge VFR market, albeit not from every part of the States. TZ flew MDW-GDL almost until it shut down, if not all the way to the end.

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RyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 2496 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (5 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1392 times:

Out of interest why didn't RP (F9) use these route authorities?

mariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 22707 posts, RR: 88
Reply 5, posted (5 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1308 times:

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Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 4):
Out of interest why didn't RP (F9) use these route authorities?

As it turned out, there was no need or value.

Republic applied for the several authorities when it first acquired Frontier. They gave it the opportunity to put a smaller aircraft (the E190) on the route if it was necessary in off or shoulder season, or for the whole season as with DEN-ZIH and MCI-SJD (for at least one winter).

But the economics of the E190 declined with the rise in the price of fuel and with the decision that Frontier become an all-Airbus airline, these authorities became irrelevant.

mariner

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usflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 485 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (5 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1138 times:

Wonder what other destinations we'll see out of DEN... possibly MEX, ACA, PVR, MBJ, SJO, LIR, PTY, etc...

What other dormant route authorities does RP hold?

My post is my ideas and my opinions only, I do not represent the ideas or opinions of anyone else, any company or any un

wnflyguy From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2011, 364 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (5 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 837 times:

This is great news.
Personally I would like to see the 2nd daily SNA-SJD operate only on Friday and Sunday.
Then add NEW service to ZIH on Tuesday and Thursday and PVR on Monday,Wednesday and Saturday.
FL already has infrastructure at both ZIH and PVR with it's charters from MKE.
They could run the same schedule to DEN.
A/C flow orig SNA-SJD/ZIH/PVR-DEN-SJD/ZIH/PVR-SNA ron.
wnfg

my post are my opinion only and not those of southwest airlines.

azstar From United States of America, joined May 2005, 541 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (5 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 826 times:

I suspect WN/FL will replace all of F9's international service from DEN, just as it has taken over many of F9's domestic markets.

sdoyon From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 188 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (5 months 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 806 times:

Quoting azstar (Reply 8):

I suspect WN/FL will replace all of F9's international service from DEN, just as it has taken over many of F9's domestic markets.

That's definitely the goal. When the FL brand is retired in 2015, you'll see all these new int'l routes [SJD-SNA/DEN, SAT-MEX, etc...] taken over by WN. They're setting the stage and getting the route authorities now.

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