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Allegiant Announces RFD/TOL/PBG-PGD Service   
User currently onlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4431 posts, RR: 6
Posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks ago) and read 3762 times:
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RFD will be announcing new air service tomorrow, December 5, 2012 at a press conference.

WHAT: New Air Service Announcement

WHERE: Chicago Rockford International Airport Main Terminal, Observation Court

WHEN: Press Conference at 1:00 p.m. followed by drawing for trip.


Let the guessing begin.   Maybe something new on G4? RFD-FLL or PGD? Seems like a stretch but I suppose there is a small chance of RFD-MYR or OAK as well.

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User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 961 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks ago) and read 3735 times:

Oh I like these G4 guessing threads...

RFD-SAN..?

How big is the FLL operation for G4 anyways?

Maybe another Apple vacations route??



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User currently offlinemhkansan From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 710 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3589 times:

Are we sure its G4? Could it be new legacy/low cost carrier? NK?

Oooo how about DFW-RFD!?


User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7619 posts, RR: 42
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3481 times:

Yes, I was thinking something like FLL, MYR or SFB... maybe LAS. Let's wait and see!


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User currently onlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4431 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3447 times:
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Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 1):


How big is the FLL operation for G4 anyways?

Maybe another Apple vacations route??

G4 isn't huge in FLL, but does serve the following:

AVL
GSP
GRR
HTS
TYS
LEX
PBG

Another Apple vacations route would seem reasonable too.

Quoting mhkansan (Reply 2):
Are we sure its G4? Could it be new legacy/low cost carrier? NK?
Quoting mhkansan (Reply 2):
Oooo how about DFW-RFD!?


Nope G4 is just a guess on my part. NK could be possible too.

Quoting EddieDude (Reply 3):

Yes, I was thinking something like FLL, MYR or SFB... maybe LAS. Let's wait and see!


The last two are already served on G4 from RFD, but of course that doesn't mean some one else can't serve those routes as well.

Edit: Also worth noting G4 has been doing contests for tickets on the recently new RST-IWA service. They also have flown RFD-FLL in the past from Nov. 16, 2007 through May 31, 2008. They cited high fuel costs when they pulled the route.

[Edited 2012-12-04 21:18:45]

User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4612 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3238 times:

I would guess RFD-PGD as it seems they will want to start announcing the next batch of cities going there. With more aircraft coming in they should be able to jump into the former Direct Air PGD routes now.

User currently offlineKcrwflyer From United States of America, joined May 2004, 3845 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3203 times:

RFD-PGD is now a selection on G4's website. I now eagerly await someone else coming and guessing something else.

User currently offlineCALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2704 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 3186 times:

Thought I had a scoop when I ran across a ferry set up ORD-RFD on UA 12/5. But it leaves ORD at 10pm, hours after any press conference.
http://www.united.com/web/en-US/apps/travel/flightstatus/default.aspx
search for 7954/5Dec - Seat map shows a A319.


User currently offlinemark8762 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 133 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2959 times:

Here is an excerpt from the official Allegiant press release:

PUNTA GORDA, Fla. (Dec. 5, 2012) β€” Allegiant (NASDAQ: ALGT) announces today, new nonstop jet service from three cities – Rockford, Ill.; Toledo, Ohio; and Plattsburgh, N.Y. – to Southwest Florida via Punta Gorda Airport (PGD) starting in February, 2013. The company, known for its exceptional travel deals, will introduce the new service with fares as low as $85.99* one way, including taxes and fees, from the following cities to Fort Myers/Punta Gorda:
1. Rockford, Ill. – begins Feb. 14, 2013 with fares as low as $99.99* each way
2. Toledo, Ohio – begins Feb. 16, 2013 with fares as low as $85.99* each way
3. Plattsburgh, N.Y. – begins Feb. 23, 2013 with fares as low as $109.99* each way


User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4612 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2668 times:

There we go.  

Plattsburgh was a surprise though.


User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9501 posts, RR: 26
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2531 times:

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 9):
Plattsburgh was a surprise though.

No surprise here on that one! The surprise to me is that it took them this long to announce Rockford.



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User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4612 posts, RR: 23
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2503 times:

Quoting stlgph (Reply 10):
No surprise here on that one! The surprise to me is that it took them this long to announce Rockford.

 

I'm pretty sure RFD and TOL have been in the works for months, it just came down to a/c availability. TOL had been pushing to get service to PGD start a couple months back, but that fell through due to the 2nd airport they were working with not getting it together. At the same time RFD was ready to announce service to PGD but said the plans fell through. Not to hard to put those pieces together. LOL

All three cities should do very well on this. Looking at the FlyTOL site, the last full month for Direct Air (February) showed this being a very strong route for them with load factors in the mid to upper 90s.


User currently offlinestlgph From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 9501 posts, RR: 26
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2446 times:

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 11):

Well, of course. I'm just surprised Rockford service didn't come a lot earlier than some of the other cities is all.



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User currently onlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2421 times:

PGD-TOL/RFD makes all the sense in the world... those were two highly successful routes for Direct Air.

I think this brings G4 up to 10 or 11 routes from PGD. Looks like PGD might need that terminal expansion after all.



"Did he really need the triple bypass? Or was it the miles?"
User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3135 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 2417 times:

Here is the writeup on the RFD-PGD announcement:

Courtesy: Rockford Register Star

Allegiant Air To Fly From Rockford To SW Florida

http://www.rrstar.com/blogs/brianlea...to-fly-from-Rockford-to-SW-Florida


User currently offlineflyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2025 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2236 times:

Either Allegiant had just a few introductory fare seats or the TOL market really has jumped on these flights...all intro flights were sold out as of 2:00pm for the first two months...Of all of the Allegiant markets, I think this one could be the best of all 3 of them.

User currently onlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2143 times:

Quoting flyinryan99 (Reply 15):

Either Allegiant had just a few introductory fare seats or the TOL market really has jumped on these flights...all intro flights were sold out as of 2:00pm for the first two months...Of all of the Allegiant markets, I think this one could be the best of all 3 of them.

This makes me wonder if TOL-PGD will give FWA-PGD (which is doing very well) a run for the money in loads and yields when it comes to G4 PGD route performance.



"Did he really need the triple bypass? Or was it the miles?"
User currently offlineCIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2352 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1983 times:

Would love to see CID-PGD some day, hopefully soon! Sounds like they are finally growing PGD.

User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4612 posts, RR: 23
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1911 times:

Quoting FWAERJ (Reply 16):
This makes me wonder if TOL-PGD will give FWA-PGD (which is doing very well) a run for the money in loads and yields when it comes to G4 PGD route performance.

Considering Direct Air was nearly completely filling the flights out of TOL, I would think this is going to be a very good route for them.

Looking at the books so far for today (based on their seat map, which won't be entirely accurate), TOL is booked to 63 and RFD to 54. Not bad for first day sales. Compared to FWA which is at 55 for that portion of February.


User currently onlineFWAERJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 3812 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1705 times:

Quoting ouboy79 (Reply 18):
Looking at the books so far for today (based on their seat map, which won't be entirely accurate), TOL is booked to 63 and RFD to 54. Not bad for first day sales. Compared to FWA which is at 55 for that portion of February.

Looks like these routes just might be up with FWA.

Is G4 basing a second aircraft at PGD for these new flights? I know that before, it was a one-plane base.



"Did he really need the triple bypass? Or was it the miles?"
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