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Delta Air Lines Orders Up To 70 Bombardier CRJ900  
User currently offlinequeb From Canada, joined May 2010, 730 posts, RR: 3
Posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 27813 times:

Bombardier Aerospace announced today that Delta Air Lines, Inc. of Atlanta, Georgia has placed a firm order for 40 CRJ900 NextGen regional jets and has taken options on an additional 30 CRJ900 NextGen aircraft.

Based on the list price of the CRJ900 NextGen aircraft, the firm order is valued at approximately $1.85 billion US, and could reach approximately $3.29 billion US if the 30 options are converted to firm orders.

The new CRJ900 NextGen regional jets will be configured with 76 seats in a two-class cabin and will be operated by Delta Connection carriers to be determined by Delta Air Lines.

http://www.marketwire.com/press-rele...en-jetliners-tsx-bbd.a-1734469.htm

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User currently offlinequeb From Canada, joined May 2010, 730 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 27621 times:

More details here:

Delta will acquire 40 new CRJ900 two-class regional jets, with the option to purchase an additional 30 CRJ900 aircraft, and Bombardier will assist Delta in phasing out 60 single-class CRJ200 aircraft.

The CRJ900 will be configured with 12 seats in the first class cabin, 12 seats in Delta's popular Economy Comfort section and 52 seats in economy. The aircraft will feature Delta's all-leather seating in a two-by-two configuration with window and aisle seats only.

http://news.delta.com/index.php?s=43&item=1809


User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 27438 times:

Good for Bombardier and DL! It'll be nice to see more CR9s presumeably helping to replace the 50-seaters.

User currently offliner2rho From Germany, joined Feb 2007, 2747 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 27159 times:

Wow, this really bring life back into the CRJ line which we had been worriedly observing lately. With a backlog of only 67 aircraft in BBD's september report, this potentially doubles that amount if the options are excercised.

DL's scope clause still says absolutely no regional flying above 76 seats, right? That would explain the lack of CRK's.


User currently offlineTriple7LR From United States of America, joined Sep 2012, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 27007 times:

I was hoping they went w/ the E175's they're more comfortable and you don't have to worry about pink tagging your bag. Oh well.

User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7711 posts, RR: 27
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 26979 times:

Pretty much an expected development in the narrowbody / regional fleet transition strategy.

After the pilot contract was agreed-up, it stated how many additional 2-class RJs DL could obtain.

In order to help remove CRJ-200s from the fleet, it was expected that DL would almost have to make a deal with Bombardier to help offload the aircraft early.

I would guess these will be to be the CRJs that will be coming out of the Skywest fleet as a part of that previously announced deal.

That does not necessarily mean:
1) That Skywest (or any regional operator) will be specifically getting these aircraft
2) That DL wouldn't reallocate other CRJ-200s to other operators and hubs and routes (particularly the 9E CRJs that in all cases are staying around for several more years)


User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7711 posts, RR: 27
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 26939 times:

Quoting Triple7LR (Reply 4):
I was hoping they went w/ the E175's they're more comfortable and you don't have to worry about pink tagging your bag. Oh well.

Doesn't mean that may not get more in the future, until they hit their 76-seat/2-class RJ scope limit.

I really think they had to go BBD here in order to offload CRJ-200s, both sides had to play "lets make a deal"


User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6808 posts, RR: 32
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 26749 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 5):
2) That DL wouldn't reallocate other CRJ-200s to other operators and hubs and routes (particularly the 9E CRJs that in all cases are staying around for several more years)

Is it certain the 9E CR2's will stay around? They have 141 leased CR2's which is larger than the public goal of approximately 125 once the 717's and new 50+-seat RJ's are all in DL colors. A bankruptcy restructuring is the perfect opportunity to shed leases on CR2's which no longer fit into the fleet plan.


User currently offlineItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1099 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 26630 times:

Quoting PSU.DTW.SCE (Reply 6):
I really think they had to go BBD here in order to offload CRJ-200s, both sides had to play "lets make a deal"

I sense that you are right...they have allot of beer cans on their hands and went back to the manufacturer to offload them in a financially viable manner. IF this is the case (and Im willing to bet it is), I wonder if this would be the template for other regionals to negotiate with EMBRAER upgrading their E135/45s.


User currently offlinelostsound From Canada, joined May 2012, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 26504 times:

Would have been cool to see them opt for the CRJ-1000.

Why are they ordering so many CRJ-900s, when they are about to receive 88 717s?



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7972 posts, RR: 51
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 26407 times:

Quoting lostsound (Reply 9):
Would have been cool to see them opt for the CRJ-1000.

Too many seats for the regional carriers

Quoting lostsound (Reply 9):
Why are they ordering so many CRJ-900s, when they are about to receive 88 717s?

These are mostly replacing the CRJ-200s while the 717s are replacing the DC-9s and probably some of the MD-88s (eventually.) Somewhat close in seats, but worlds away (mainline vs regional, 2 different markets)

Quoting ScottB (Reply 11):
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 10):
the 717s are replacing the DC-9s and probably some of the MD-88s (eventually.)

Probably some of the oldest A320's as well which are rapidly approaching a quarter-century in service.

Yeah, forgot about those too!

[Edited 2012-12-06 07:42:21]


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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6808 posts, RR: 32
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 26344 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 10):
the 717s are replacing the DC-9s and probably some of the MD-88s (eventually.)

Probably some of the oldest A320's as well which are rapidly approaching a quarter-century in service.


User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2224 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 26300 times:
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Cool  Well done BBD, nice to hear the CRJ900 soldiers on.

Quoting queb (Reply 1):
12 seats in Delta's popular Economy Comfort

Do the existing CRJ900s have Economy Comfort seats or is this a new feature if the new CR9s are to have Zodiac SlimPlus seats?



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User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3098 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 26202 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 2):
It'll be nice to see more CR9s presumeably helping to replace the 50-seaters.

Hear, hear! So, what are the differences between the CR9s currently in the fleet and the "NextGen" birds?



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User currently offlinexdlx From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 682 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 26121 times:

Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 13):

They are newer.....!


User currently offlineGiancavia From Vatican City, joined Feb 2010, 1384 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 26121 times:

Good, at least there will be something flying around that i'snt boring looking like all the Boeing/Airbus zzzz.

User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3098 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 26037 times:

Quoting xdlx (Reply 14):
They are newer.....!

Cute!   But seriously, are there any differences that a frequent flyer or airline nerd would notice?



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User currently offlinePSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7711 posts, RR: 27
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 25991 times:

Quoting ScottB (Reply 7):
Is it certain the 9E CR2's will stay around? They have 141 leased CR2's which is larger than the public goal of approximately 125 once the 717's and new 50+-seat RJ's are all in DL colors. A bankruptcy restructuring is the perfect opportunity to shed leases on CR2's which no longer fit into the fleet plan.

The actual CRJ-200s currently flown by 9E will likely be the remaining CRJs that are not being removed in the next few years. These are the youngest CRJ-200s in the fleet and were the ones originally ordered by NW. DL is the lease-holder on these aircraft, not 9E. They were all delivered between 1999-2005 so they do not yet have the higher maintenance costs and checks that are required of older aircraft.

DL can't shed the leases on these aircraft since 9E's bankruptcy does not impact DL's obligation for these aircraft. It does give DL (and 9E) the opportunity to move them to another regional operation. These aircraft will still be in the DL Connection fleet, but it depends how DL wants to play the musical chairs game with the operators.

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 10):
These are mostly replacing the CRJ-200s while the 717s are replacing the DC-9s and probably some of the MD-88s (eventually.) Somewhat close in seats, but worlds away (mainline vs regional, 2 different markets)

717, CRJ-900, and the additional 40 2-class RJs are replacing CRJ-200 and DC-9 capacity.

Not intended to be an MD-88 replacement.

Quoting ScottB (Reply 11):
Probably some of the oldest A320's as well which are rapidly approaching a quarter-century in service.

737-900ER capacity is intended to replace oldest A320, oldest 757, and 763 domestic capacity

There is no such thing as a 1 for 1 replacement on aircraft, its about replacement capacity with the most appropriate mix of frames.


User currently onlineKingAir200 From United States of America, joined May 2006, 1629 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 25822 times:

Well let's hope GoJet doesn't get any.

Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 16):
Cute!   But seriously, are there any differences that a frequent flyer or airline nerd would notice?

Bigger bins and windows and LED interior lighting. Currently all of the CR9s in the DLC fleet are NextGens with the exception of SkyWest's older deliveries and a few of the Comair originals now with ExpressJet and SkyWest.



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User currently offlineB727FA From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 800 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 25527 times:

Quoting Triple7LR (Reply 4):

I wish they'd gone with the 175 as well...I loath the CRJ's.

Quoting CRJ900 (Reply 12):

Every 2 class a/c in the Delta/DL Connection fleet have Econ Comfort and wi-fi.



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User currently offlinequeb From Canada, joined May 2010, 730 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 25479 times:

Quoting KingAir200 (Reply 18):

Quoting GSPSPOT (Reply 16):
Cute!   But seriously, are there any differences that a frequent flyer or airline nerd would notice?

Bigger bins and windows and LED interior lighting. Currently all of the CR9s in the DLC fleet are NextGens with the exception of SkyWest's older deliveries and a few of the Comair originals now with ExpressJet and SkyWest.
http://crjnextgen.com/en/#/crj/comfort/


User currently offlinemicstatic From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 785 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 25426 times:

I too wish they went with the E175 or C-Series. Hate the CRJ family. While the -900 is better than the CR2's, it's still a CRJ. Too bad on this one.


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User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11840 posts, RR: 62
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 25310 times:

Makes sense for Delta - taking full advantage of the flexibility from the new pilot agreement. Delta is being smart to offload 50-seaters in an orderly, but rapid, way whenever possible. Will be interesting to see what effect, if any, Delta locking up some portion of the CRJ production line has on purchasing decisions from other potential buyers.

User currently offlinelaca773 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 4058 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 24423 times:
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Is there a chance DL will still by E75/E90/E95s? The Embrers are much more comfortable over the CRJ, even the CR7/CR9 NextGens models.

User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3098 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 24398 times:

Quoting KingAir200 (Reply 18):
Bigger bins and windows and LED interior lighting.

Thanks!

The CR9s may be "just CRJs", but from a practical point of view, they're a completely different passenger experience from the CR2. Smooth and super-quiet. I actually prefer its FC cabin to most mainline jets because it's so quiet!



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25 DTWPurserBoy : Very true. Nothwest took delivery of the first A320 in 1989. A few lucky spotters got shots of it in the original Northwest Orient colors--as I recal
26 PSU.DTW.SCE : It is possible they could get more E-175, however probably not likely at this point. Heres my thinking why: 1) The order + options on CRJ-900's almos
27 Post contains images spiritair97 : I agree! I fly US Airways quite frequently and try to upgrade to F on the CRJs before the mainline mainly because I like having the aisle and window
28 queb : Don't forget the config, the CR9 is a 88 pax RJ, at 76 it will be very comfortable.[Edited 2012-12-06 09:36:08]
29 apodino : Could this be Air Wisconsin's opportunity to land something beyond 2015? Air Wisconsin has not bid on additional flying in a while since they did not
30 Goldenshield : These will be good in the interim, but I'm not sure what DL will be able to do with them once SkyWest, Inc. starts getting their MRJs---and whatever e
31 N757ST : These aircraft will be used to replace existing DCI aircraft 2 for 1 or will be flown by the lowest cost unit airline. Don't kid yourself man, AWAC h
32 KingAir200 : 9E was told nothing new until they get their house in order. They're starting to turn a bit of a corner, it seems, but there's still work to be done.
33 Post contains links queb : Good day for BBD and the CRJs: Undisclosed Customer in China Orders Seven Bombardier CRJ700 NextGen Aircraft http://www.bombardier.com/wps/portal...ed
34 whittih12 : The "NextGen" CRJ900sa have redesigned interiors with LED lighting (as do the recognition lights), and lower operating and maintenance costs.
35 ushermittwoch : The 900NextGens aren't too bad, but I agree with the above posters that also favor the E-Jets.
36 1337Delta764 : Looks like the PMDL influence has won over the PMNW influence again, just as it did with the 739ER order. I have heard that NW had a preference for th
37 PSU.DTW.SCE : There is absolutely zero truth to that statement.
38 Prost : IF that statement is true, NW was also a far different airline than DL, so it stands to reason that their re-fleeting needs would be different.
39 MSPNWA : Expected, but still disappointing that DL went with the CR9. They're definitely obsolete as far as passenger comfort. Not good news for Compass either
40 PSU.DTW.SCE : The statement was completely false on all levels. PMDL had no favoritism to the CR9 -Rremember that DL go their first E-jets years before NW) PMNW ha
41 MSPNWA : No, its about potentially replacing CR2s with CR9s instead of E-175s. Most customers wouldn't be complaining about the Embraers, you can guarantee yo
42 Post contains links and images rikkus67 : View Large View MediumPhoto © Stefan Sonnenberg When viewed in the large photo, you can clearly see the difference between the original window size i
43 mayor : Well, customers would probably prefer an A380, but that's not feasible, is it? There has to be a balance between what the customer "wants" and what t
44 XFSUgimpLB41X : This is expected as DL was looking for lease forgiveness for the 50 seaters. After delivery of these aircraft, the maximum amount of 50 seaters allowe
45 Kcrwflyer : Which city that primarily sees CR2 won't be happy to see a CR9? Nobody in CRW or TRI or ROA are going to see a CR9 at the gate and go, Damn! I was wa
46 PSU.DTW.SCE : I'd like to know how many customers are complaining about CRJ-900s versus E-175s. Enough to sway the company's decision? Customers have said they wan
47 lostsound : Yes, I will agree the Ejets are tad more comfortable. However it's not like the CRJ-900 is uncomfortable. I've been on Air Canada's CRJ-705s (Which is
48 Post contains links queb : BBD said that CR9 has an operating cost lower than 5% on a 500 nm flight. http://crjnextgen.com/en/#/crj/econo...hoperatingcosts/cashcrj900nextgen/ I
49 jporterfi : Is there any chance that DL could order the CS100 in the future, or does this CR9 order (as well as the scope clauses) pretty much rule that out? I do
50 MSPNWA : Customers only have themselves to blame for allowing the airlines to fly them in cattle cars. Most have no clue about the aircraft they fly in. So th
51 SEA : Obsolete? How so? The NextGen cabin is quite modern and comfortable. Sure, the bins aren't as "large" as an E170, but the cabin is certainly no tortu
52 seabosdca : Don't underestimate people's ability to choose their priorities (even as they whine and moan while they do it). For the same price, would I rather ri
53 PSU.DTW.SCE : I am not sure, but the ability to handle human remains is also dependent on the station and not just aircraft. The stations need to have the special
54 FL787 : Assuming DL exercises their options, we're probably looking at the following DL Connection fleet in 2015/2016: 52 E75 20 E70 171 CR9 82 CR7 125 CR2 32
55 PSU.DTW.SCE : Exactly. I too prefer an E175 over a CRJ-900. Everyone is going to have a slight preference. That being said, the CRJ-900 is fine. The preference tho
56 Post contains images bjorn14 : [quote=laca773,reply=23]Is there a chance DL will still by E75/E90/E95s? The Embrers are much more comfortable over the CRJ[/quote I hope so but don'
57 FWAERJ : I bet if 9E gets some of them (and I bet they will), FWA might be seeing a little more diversity at the 9E MX base. Of course, we'll probably still s
58 RamblinMan : Damn guys...yeah, EJets are awesome. But we're talking about replacing CR2s for crying out loud! Basically anything is an improvement, take what you c
59 crj200faguy : There is no way G7 gets any of these planes. They are going to be used purely for swapping out 200s. Everyone in little towns thinks this means CR9s a
60 XFSUgimpLB41X : I'll place my bet on 9E not existing in another year and a half. 9E has 140 CRJ-200s.... and only 125 will be left at the end of all this spread betw
61 FlyPNS1 : My big problem with the CRJ900 (and all CRJ family) is the overhead bins. They are too small. This means every rollaboard gets gate checked. On some
62 delimit : Nice for BBD but not the Bombardier order I wanted to see DL place!
63 Post contains links panamair : Agree 100%...but looks like the NextGens may actually have larger overhead bins that can accomodate some rollaboards: http://crjnextgen.com/en/#/crj/
64 FWAERJ : Let's use my hometown airport, FWA, for an example: DL weekday service at FWA today, all CR2: ATL 3x daily/150 seats each way DTW 4-5x daily dependin
65 bigbird : What is the delivery schedule for these aircraft?
66 FRNT787 : I don't necessarily disagree with you. It should be pointed out that RAH has operated the CRJ200 for CO, and at the time at least they found a fleet
67 NWADTWE16 : I agree the E190 and 757/A321 would be much better than CRJ/737 all over the place...bore =(
68 KingAir200 : Absolutely none. 1337 has trotted out that line time after time.
69 FWAERJ : RAH operated the CR2 for CO for 2 reasons: 1) Used ERJs were scarce 2) There was a glut of used CR2s from the collapse of DH (which is where many of
70 JoeCanuck : The CRJ-200 can still be a money maker if it can fill most of its 50 seats and they are mostly paid for which should somewhat offset the increasing MX
71 spiritair97 : Throughout the whole 50-seater ordeal, I've had one question on my mind? What is to happen with the E-145s? All the talk seems to be about CR2s, and
72 XFSUgimpLB41X : One way or the other, there will only be 125 50-seaters left in 2015.
73 Viscount724 : The Jazz CRJ-705s have 34 inch pitch in Y class. That's very rare on any aircraft these days.
74 burnsie28 : Well the 717 to A320/M88 is a 40 seat difference.
75 flightsimer : Will these actually be -900's legally or will they be -705's?
76 Goldenshield : -900s, with seating capacity of 76 seats.[Edited 2012-12-06 21:17:35]
77 BD338 : to the vast majority of passengers the aircraft type doesn't even come into the equation. It's all about the price. Personally I find the CR7/9 a ver
78 NWADTWE16 : This is one of many reasons i hope B6 keeps spreading..such a comfy ride and entertaining
79 FL787 : RP's contract with DL is up in May 2016 as of a couple months ago. However it wouldn't surprise me if that date got moved earlier when DL signed up f
80 Post contains images TrijetsRMissed : Congrats to Bombardier. This is a much needed order to boost the catalog. But let's be real; BBD were watching the DL TA vote as closely as WN... As f
81 Post contains images Deltal1011man : just to think....this could have not happened....but like normal, DALPA caves on scope again. Way to go. what are you talking about? NWA had the same
82 XFSUgimpLB41X : So, reducing several hundred jets from DCI is caving on scope? Please tell me more! (for the record, I voted no)
83 Post contains images Deltal1011man : wow you guys got Delta to park airplanes they were going to park anyways...good job. At least DALPA got better control over the AF/KL JV....oh wait.
84 NWAESC : ^This^ No kidding! Lol. Interesting. Who knew? As other have noted, not exactly true. They *did* like the E75's increased range, and the idea that it
85 bahadir : Rat race to the bottom begins.. Let's see which regional is going to get this.
86 JHCRJ700 : Can someone please explain to me why the CRJ's are so hated? I've flown on them numerous times and don't understand why people hate them so much.
87 threeifbyair : NextGen bins must not be big enough. In my experience, DL gate agents at MSP and PIT don't let pax take any standard rollaboards onto CR9s - everythi
88 saab2000 : ZW uses thinner seats I believe. I have noticed the same thing. There's a bit more leg room and on a claustrophobic CRJ, every millimeter helps. I fi
89 Mir : I'm less interested in which regional is going to get them first than in which regional is going to get them a year and a half later when DL plays it
90 Post contains links and images coronado : I got a chuckle on the following article from Bloomberg on this purchase. Not sure if anyone else noticed this. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1..
91 steeler83 : Man, I flew on a CR2. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but considering it replaced an A319 on my PHL-DTW segment to Seattle!! Yeah, not cool
92 mayor : Aren't these spares or am I missing the sarcasm?
93 Prost : DL thinks outside the box. Sure, they bought a refinery for lowering their fuel bills, but its truly innovative when you choose only one engine! Its l
94 seabosdca : Nope. No way you'd order 40 spares for 40 aircraft. Just an error... it should have been 80.
95 Post contains images pnwtraveler : The sort of thinking where a larger and less efficient aircraft is used, or an aircraft that is "too much" for a certain route leads to a big hit on
96 XFSUgimpLB41X : A major reason I voted no. The block hour ratio concept I thought was fantastic, but the amount of CRJ900s to be traded I thought was too many. Your
97 coronado : Hi yes 100% of all E70's and E75's that operate for Delta have business class, and Economy Comfort (in addition to regular economy). This is also the
98 WA707atMSP : The CRJ-200 is hated because its bins can barely hold a backpack, its windows are not much bigger than a paperback book, and they are located at fore
99 KingAir200 : I expect that's the response from the whole system. Haha. They're definitely not E70/75 size, but they are bigger than the original design.
100 Post contains links and images queb : Delta CR9 config: Delta E175 config:
101 Post contains images lightsaber : This is a good win for Bombardier. Not to see what UA and AA do with their RJs... I like the E175s, but money must play a role in the decison for if:
102 norcal : From what I've seen non-reving on CRJs it appears that the rear bathroom is different (bigger on the next gens) and that the interior is bright white
103 XFSUgimpLB41X : If the options are exercised, this is the final amount of 76 seaters allowed in the DL contract. The delivery of these airplanes are tied to 1 76 sea
104 queb : - 4% lower operating cost (checks interval, engine PIP, etc) - LED lighting - larger windows - larger bins
105 KELPkid : I know we're talking about DELTA here, but wonder why they wouldn't have chosen the CSeries over the RJ?
106 FWAERJ : DL already has chosen to lease ex-FL 717s for the role that the CSeries could fill. The CRJ-900s, at 76 seats, fall under DL's scope clause; the 110-
107 XFSUgimpLB41X : The C-series is extremely expensive and unproven. The CRJ-900s on the other hand were probably gotten at half off plus lease forgiveness for the retur
108 fanoftristars : Is there really anyone who prefers the CRJ over the EMB if you've flown both (besides the bean counters at DL)? EMB, wider seats, overhead bins that f
109 Post contains images lightsaber : My mistake, I thought DL had room for more 76 seaters. It looks like DL mainline will be hiring pilots. So this could be the final 'top off' for DL.
110 laca773 : Even though it doesn't matter at this point, which a/c do cabin crews prefer, the CR9 or E75? I'd guess the E75 since it has galleys in front and back
111 mayor : The seat chart in reply #100 shows lavs, front and rear in the CR9
112 KGRB : I work on the CRJ-900 on a near daily basis and I have never had more than 40 gate checked bags. Furthermore, the 900 NextGen has larger overhead bin
113 PSU.DTW.SCE : Some of the longer E75 / CR9 flights do get a meal service in F. None of these flights have meal service in Y. Another issue with the CR9 with the re
114 irshava : I thought that the notion in the airline industry was to stay away from regional jets as they were unprofitable.. And why don't the smaller regional c
115 1337Delta764 : OO has ordered 100 MRJ 90s, which most (if not all) will most likely operate under the Delta Connection banner due to the scope clause restrictions o
116 XFSUgimpLB41X : Whoops. Sorry, with these 70 900s, they have to go to another airline as this taps out DL's scope clause.[Edited 2012-12-08 19:02:45]
117 Goldenshield : The MRJs are replacements and growth. However, they won't be certified for 2 more years, and on property for another 4 years. The CRJ-900s ARE availa
118 apodino : One other thing. Trans States also has MRJ's on order. Now is Hulas going to make a run for this flying and then use the MRJ's for something else down
119 XFSUgimpLB41X : Unless they are replacing "old" 76 seaters currently flown by Skywest, then they won't be flying in the DL system.
120 NWAESC : Consider yourself lucky! 40 is about average for me...
121 Goldenshield : Get off your high horse, please. Just because you're flying for DL now doesn't give you the right to be an ass. The company will swap out whatever ai
122 NWAdeicer : Hate the two forward bins, can't count the number of times i've creased my forehead reaching into the bin to pull out a bag.
123 laca773 : True. But they have had some longer CR9/E75 flights from LAX recently where they could have offered BOB meals. That particular flight just went mainl
124 mayor : Unless I'm mistaken, the MRJs won't belong to DL, correct? If they won't belong to DL, can they tell OO how to use them?
125 Goldenshield : They'll be owned by OO. DL has worded the RFPs so that airplanes wih X number of seats are flown, not a specific model. Thus, the only way DL can tel
126 lightsaber : 1. DL buys in larger quantity and thus the price is less. This reduces costs for DL. 2. This is like hiring a tradesman without tools, the price paid
127 Post contains images XFSUgimpLB41X : You didn't say swapping.... I did. You stated growth. They cannot be growth due to DL scope. SKW only operates a small handful of 76 seaters for DL-
128 Goldenshield : Yadda yadda yadda. I said Growth and replacements back in reply 117. Post 121 was the ONLY time I said the word 'Swap,' which was in direct reply to
129 XFSUgimpLB41X : My mistake- it was 1337 that made the post that I attributed to you! This site needs bigger usernames and avatars! (It's hard to see the small font s
130 Post contains images Goldenshield : Avatars would be nice, but I feel that would end up being abused. Otherwise, I forgive for my harsh reply. I hold no grudge. Business is business. (A
131 Post contains images mayor : Avoid them as long as you are able....trust me, I know
132 Post contains images XFSUgimpLB41X : Oh, I have a few choice avatars. No worries- I'm sorry for jumping on you! I sure hope I'm a ways off from bifocals... I'm 31! That dang high horse.
133 CRJ900 : Is DL planning to fly these new CRJ900s for 20-25 years, so that some of them will be around in 2040? If so, the "loathed" CRJ will have been flying f
134 B727FA : Yes. The major issues I hear people (pax/crews) have with the -900's: 76 "pink-tag bags" we have to wait on; 1 galley v/s two (FA's will tell you how
135 FlyASAGuy2005 : IDK if you've actually SEEN the 175 bins but they are very narrow and the bin ceiling is extremely low. I've never seen an HR booked for one in the D
136 NWADTWE16 : Exactly!!
137 mayor : Which shows that this purchase has as much to do with Boeing taking back the 50 seaters as much as anything. If you throw that out of the equation, t
138 JoeCanuck : The CRJ's also have a significant operating cost advantage over the E-jets which is another valid reason for the choice.
139 B727FA : It's clearly a decision to combo the take back of the 50 seaters with the new 900's... The back pit of the 175 can take HR.
140 mayor : Considering that most HRs, nowadays average between 200 and 350 pounds, I'd hate to have to try it. I can remember watching the ramp crew trying to l
141 Goldenshield : Even loading an HR into an MD-80 tended to be a struggle. I can't imagine an F-100 or smaller bin.
142 CRJ900 : Can the CRJ900 take human remains in the aft cargo hold?
143 Prost : Is there a huge HR market? Has this ever been the deciding which aircraft to purchase? I'm asking not to be snarky, but with how much discussion is no
144 PSA727LAX : Any indication of how many ASA will end up with? Wonder how much input Skywest will have in how they're disperssed?
145 XFSUgimpLB41X : No indication whatsoever, but they are currently being dangled in front of the 9E pilot group as a carrot to take paycuts.
146 AV8AJET : No
147 JoeCanuck : I bet some flights feel like every seat is occupied by human remains.
148 Post contains images XFSUgimpLB41X : Senior international flight attendants?
149 Post contains images Mir : I hope they don't fall for it. There's a whole lot further to go down from where they are. -Mir
150 planemaker : The Aviation Daily link if offline at the moment but it reported that Richard Anderson said that the deal to return 60 CRJ200s and buy 40 CRJ900s "pa
151 durangomac : I know OO has taken HR on CRJ-200's, I would be suprised if OO's CRJ-900's have a restriction.
152 mayor : I can't imagine loading a full size HR on a -200, unless it was a child or cremated.
153 durangomac : OO did it a couple years ago when a pilot was killed in freak accident while on a overnight. OO transported her back to her home town and had a whole
154 Post contains links Goldenshield : Here's the cargo bin dimensions: http://images.delta.com/delta/pdfs/cargo/DELTA_CONNECTION_AIRCRAFT.pdf[Edited 2012-12-19 11:02:44]
155 apodino : According to some 9E pilots...what management is telling them is that according to Delta...if the 9E pilots fail to ratify the TA, then Delta already
156 Goldenshield : I find that odd. I understand that DL doesn't want all its eggs in one basket if they give it to SKYW, but taking flying from one company with a very
157 mayor : Looks like it would be easier to load an HR in Brasilia than a CR2, in any case, once you put an HR in the bin of a CR2, there's not going to be much
158 apodino : ZW isn't quite as senior as you think. A lot of the real old guys are going to be retiring due to Age 65 in the next few years, and aside from that g
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