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Irish Aviation 15/12: The Christmas Thread  
User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 20189 times:

Good morning folks, on this bitterly cold Friday morning (and 71st anniversary of Pearl Harbor); I had hoped that we might stretch the last thread into 2013, but as we're at the 220+ mark, I thought it best to move on!

Here's the link to the last thread and there have been a fair few developments:

Irish 14/12: Is Feidir Linn! (by kaitak Nov 10 2012 in Civil Aviation)

- EU Commission looking increasingly likely to red-flag FR's plan to buy Aer Lingus
- Separation of Shannon and Dublin, and merger of SAA with Shannon development.
- Aer Lingus deal with Virgin over operation of domestic UK routes
- and quite a few other things I can't quite recall at this hour of the morning!

May I take this opportunity to wish all of the participants in the Irish threads a very happy Christmas and all the very best for 2013, and let's hope next year is a very good one for Irish aviation.

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User currently offlinebestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7302 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 20117 times:

I had the pleasure of reading the Clare People this week. The excitement of the Shannon task force is amazing. I really hope that they can live up to their plans, as they claim companies are lining up to employ people in the region, and are just waiting for the new airport authority to take over. Let's hope that Shannon has a bright future.

Secondly, Varadkar has ruled out an unsustainable deal with Ryanair - O'Leary has to realise that his bullying and negativity regarding irish aviation has a nefative effect on his airline.

I note that Transaero has launched a second direct service to Miami from Vnukova airport. No sign of this stopping in the west.



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User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2468 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 20061 times:

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
- Aer Lingus deal with Virgin over operation of domestic UK routes

Any news on this subject? Still no press release from EI: http://corporate.aerlingus.com/mediacentre/pressreleases/


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 20012 times:

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
May I take this opportunity to wish all of the participants in the Irish threads a very happy Christmas and all the very best for 2013, and let's hope next year is a very good one for Irish aviation.

The same to you and thanks for all the threads in 2012 .
----

Good news for Belfast :

Bombardier in Belfast stands to gain from another major order for aircraft.

Delta Air Lines has placed a firm order worth more than £1bn for 40 CRJ900 NextGen aircraft which also includes an option for a further 30.

If the options are converted to firm orders the total value will be more than £2bn.

Bombardier Belfast is responsible for the design and manufacture of the centre fuselage, engine casings and composite wing components for the jet.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-20630140


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 3003 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 19841 times:

The Ryanair smartphone app has gone up from €2.99 to €3.59...and it still doesn't even have mobile check-in! Most airline apps are free and include all this!


Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1961 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 19655 times:
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Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 4):
The Ryanair smartphone app has gone up from €2.99 to €3.59...and it still doesn't even have mobile check-in! Most airline apps are free and include all this!

Yes but remember that FR still don't apply fuel surcharges  



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User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 3003 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 19613 times:

Good news: The cession of Shannon-Liverpool by Ryanair is only a seasonal closure and will return for Summer 2013 with 3x weekly rotations - no change in frequency. The route is one of five of FR's seasonal "old reliables" to return - the others being Málaga, Nantes, Palma de Mallorca and Tenerife

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 5):
Yes but remember that FR still don't apply fuel surcharges

Mmm, this is true...   



Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineJambost From Ireland, joined Jun 2010, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 19276 times:

Nice shot of Hilary Clinton's ride into BFS:

http://www.belfastairport.com/en/news/



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User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 19268 times:
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I was just wondering, isn't there enough market between Cyprus and Ireland for a few weekly flights? Aer Lingus could also take advantage of connecting passengers to the US.

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 19102 times:

Quoting VCy (Reply 8):

There used to be a number of flights both scheduled and chartered. Helios ran some of them before their demise. Eurocypria the rest. Im surprised that CY or EI have not picked up at least once a week but the charters still run via the Tour Operators. The demand has also dropped over the last four years according to stats. Maybe thats what puts off any new service.


User currently offlinecaptainmeeerkat From Russia, joined Aug 2010, 398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 18953 times:

http://www.independent.ie/business/i...o-up-aer-lingus-stake-3319805.html

Etihad wants to up its stake in EI if the FR takeover bid fails at EU levels.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 18874 times:

A recent poll with regards to preference in Airports out of BFS/BHD

63% of air passengers prefer to use Belfast City airport, says poll

More than six out of 10 people in Northern Ireland would rather fly from George Best Belfast City Airport than its rival Belfast International Airport, according to an opinion poll.

And more than half think that growth at the City Airport is important to Northern Ireland’s future economic growth.

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...ty-airport-says-poll-16247196.html


User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6372 posts, RR: 14
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 18461 times:

Virgin Atlantic Names Aer Lingus as Short-Route Partner

Quote:
Virgin Atlantic Airways Ltd. chose Aer Lingus Group Plc (AERL) to operate U.K. routes feeding its long- haul services, the carrier’s first domestic flights, to help replace traffic lost when British Airways bought partner BMI.
Using aircraft carrying the U.K. airline’s brand, Dublin- based Aer Lingus will run a combined 24 flights a day linking Manchester, England, and two cities in Scotland with London Heathrow airport, Virgin Atlantic said today in a statement.
http://mobile.bloomberg.com/news/201...lingus-as-short-route-partner.html

Not much info on the Aer Lingus side of things, can probably expect more in the morning.


User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1915 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 18445 times:
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Seems like a very hastily written article, badly worded.

Perhaps EI were waiting on VS to let the news out?


User currently offlinebx737 From Ireland, joined Sep 2001, 687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 18312 times:

Just looking at CH Aviation's newsletter, they confirm that EI is to operate VS flights from LHR to MAN, ABZ, EDI and one I hadn't heard before NCE. L'Avion Express was originally to operate the flights.

Other news concerned Air Contractors who are taking delivery of an Airbus A300-600 EI-OZJ ( c/n 770) ex JAL. This could replace the one that suffered the nose-wheel collapse, which I believe is to be withdrawn.

I have also heard a rumour that RE are to sign the agreement for the new ATR72s this week. Rumour has it that the 42s are to be withdrawn first.

[Edited 2012-12-10 03:10:18]

User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1915 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 18252 times:
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One wonders with the EI/VS wet lease if they will lease 4 new A320 or utilise some of there existing fleet. The agreement is for 3 years initially. Perhaps EI are looking at using that cash pile to make some 'easy money (thats a relative term in aviation)

User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 18043 times:

I had understood by this that VS was wet leasing four of EI's existing fleet; that's quite a chunk out of the fleet for what will be the Summer season. It's not impossible that they could source A320s elsewhere (like Runway 11/29 at DUB!), but that's not exactly wet leasing them from EI, even if they use EI crews.

I still think that EI will be looking at any A319s which IB proposes to sell, to have commonality with the existing A319 fleet.


User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 18028 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 16):
I had understood by this that VS was wet leasing four of EI's existing fleet; that's quite a chunk out of the fleet for what will be the Summer season. It's not impossible that they could source A320s elsewhere (like Runway 11/29 at DUB!), but that's not exactly wet leasing them from EI, even if they use EI crews.

I still think that EI will be looking at any A319s which IB proposes to sell, to have commonality with the existing A319 fleet.

I would really doubt if EI will take out four aircraft and the equivalent number of crew from their current operation.
I just don't see where they have such resources just lying around.
I think it's more likely that additional aircraft and crews will be contracted just for the duration of the VS contract.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 17996 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 16):
I still think that EI will be looking at any A319s which IB proposes to sell, to have commonality with the existing A319 fleet.

Yes that seems to make sense IMHO.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 17992 times:

Some A320's were due to come off lease this year, to be replaced by the remaining A319's. The leases on those units could simply be extended for the VS contract.


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User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1490 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 17510 times:

Came in yesterday on united from Washington. A good load in business but plenty of space in economy. Pity Iad is so unfriendly to transit passengers, long corridors and no moving walkways,.

When your inbound flight is over an hour late it does not lead to a relaxed experience. Must be good for cardiac doctors in the DC area as you run like mad from one end to the other.


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 3003 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 17463 times:

I flew home from Manchester last night and on the climbout while looking out the window a green laser was pointed at the aircraft from the ground for a few seconds. The exact same thing happened again a while later just before leaving the coastline...are these incidents becoming more common now?


Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 17441 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 21):

Yes, i'm afraid they are alarmingly common now.



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User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6372 posts, RR: 14
Reply 23, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 17306 times:

Aer Lingus has a new inflight experience page on their website, looks like they're finally showcasing their product properly! The pre-order menu is available as well, you can guarantee that Irish breakfast by printing off a voucher and then handing it to the crew.

Sky Dine has been launched on long haul with an enhanced economy meal, presentation looks very nice.

http://www.aerlingus.com/inflight-experience/

Shamrock350


User currently offlineAer Lingus From Ireland, joined May 2000, 1569 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 17125 times:

http://www.aerlingus.com/inflight-ex...mfort-and-entertainment/shorthaul/

"Business Class seat on a selection of our European flights"..... say again? Something they want to tell us?


User currently offlineeirbus06 From Ireland, joined Apr 2006, 253 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (2 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 17225 times:

Speedbird 17V diverted to DUB this morning en-route from DEN to LHR. I don't know the reason why though. Doubt it was medical as he circled for quite a long time. Now on it's way to LHR.

Also an interesting article in the "Limerick leader" about whether SNN should be a 24 hour operation after it is separated from the DAA.

http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/lo...ransatlantic-emergencies-1-4572811


User currently offlineVFRontop From Ireland, joined Oct 2012, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (2 years 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 17147 times:

Quoting Aer Lingus (Reply 24):
"Business Class seat on a selection of our European flights"..... say again? Something they want to tell us?

Good spot, I missed that one myself.

That would certainly be an interesting development. Looking to challenge BA on the DUB-LHR premium traffic. Then again perhaps it is a reference to the A330 they fly to Malaga during the summer season? (do they still do this?)


User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1915 posts, RR: 2
Reply 27, posted (2 years 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 17212 times:
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Quoting Aer Lingus (Reply 24):
"Business Class seat on a selection of our European flights"..... say again?

I would guess that this is a reference to the summer A330 flight to AGP, if it was planned to add to LHR flights we would see an upgrade price noted.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 28, posted (2 years 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 17024 times:

Another 5% increase in pax numbers at DUB for November. Every route sector grew, except Domestic. Europe up 4%, UK up 1%, TATL up 11% and other long haul up
91%!

It's now very possible that the 19 million pax number will be reached for 2012, having dipped well below for the last two years. (Still some way to go to get back to 24 million tho!)



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User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 29, posted (2 years 1 week ago) and read 16753 times:

It's now been officially confirmed that EI will be among the first to move to LHR's new Terminal 2 when it opens in 2014.

Virgin's Domestic operations (to be operated by EI) will also move to T2.

http://mediacentre.heathrowairport.c...minal-2-airline-occupancy-3ea.aspx



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User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6372 posts, RR: 14
Reply 30, posted (2 years 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 16734 times:

Aer Lingus will also add 2 new meals to the menu on short haul flights from next month, Beef & Potato Salad or Chicken Noodle salad.



The beef and potato salad looks a little more appetising than Ryanair's hotdog with ketchup.  
Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 29):
It's now been officially confirmed that EI will be among the first to move to LHR's new Terminal 2 when it opens in 2014.

I guess that means another new lounge is on the way then, would be nice to get a lounge with some natural light or a view of the apron at LHR.

Quoting eirbus06 (Reply 25):

Speedbird 17V diverted to DUB this morning en-route from DEN to LHR. I don't know the reason why though. Doubt it was medical as he circled for quite a long time. Now on it's way to LHR.

Possibly fog related? The London airports all suffered from it yesterday morning.

Quoting VFRontop (Reply 26):
That would certainly be an interesting development. Looking to challenge BA on the DUB-LHR premium traffic. Then again perhaps it is a reference to the A330 they fly to Malaga during the summer season? (do they still do this?)

As much as I'd love to see Aer Lingus A330s on the LHR route, I think you're right in saying it's more to do with the AGP route. I seem to remember the A330s visiting WAW and GVA during past winters as well, usually WAW gets a A332 around Christmas but not sure that still happens.


User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1915 posts, RR: 2
Reply 31, posted (2 years 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 16551 times:
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EI have confirmed that Wi-Fi will be installed on the A320 fleet starting next year:

http://www.independent.ie/business/w...es-to-have-net-access-3325024.html

"AER Lingus is to provide customers on its European network with in-cabin internet access. The new service will be available on the Aer Lingus short-haul fleet from the middle of next year.The first aircraft to be fitted with the internet capability are expected to launch mid-2013 and will provide services via the KA-SAT satellite operated by Eutelsat Communications."

http://www.siliconrepublic.com/comms...em/30709-wi-fi-to-take-off-on-aer/

"Passengers of Irish airline Aer Lingus will be able to enjoy Wi-Fi during European flights when the company rolls out the service in the middle of next year.JetBlue Airways subsidiary LiveTV is providing the Wi-Fi service to more than 40 of Aer Lingus' aircraft."


User currently offlineVFRontop From Ireland, joined Oct 2012, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (2 years 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 16475 times:

"Ryanair criticised as families of ill children forced to repack overweight luggage"
http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1212/fam...dren-forced-to-repack-luggage.html

The article describes how as part of a surprice trip to Disneyland organised by the Share a Dream Foundation, families of three of the seriously ill children " had to check in twice at the Ryanair check-in desk after some of their luggage was found to be overweight.The families said they were annoyed and humiliated when they had to unpack some bags, which included their sick children’s medicines and other essential items, and repack into other luggage"

Share a Dream Foundation went on to describe the incident as a "disgrace".

An FR spokesman stated that Ryanair "regret the inconvenience caused, but are pleased that the families concerned avoided excess bag baggage charges by being given the opportunity to repack their bags."

Makes you wonder why Share a Dream werent more organised, or better yet why they didn't fly Aer Lingus who I'm sure would have been happy to accomodate the parties needs as well as maybe drum up a bit of good press.

In any case I hope the children and their families have a great trip.


User currently offlineIre2008 From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (2 years 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 16439 times:

Its Ryanair, like honestly should we expect any compassion? NO, just fly another airline, problem solved. The pope wouldnt get special treatment. These stories are non stories any more, its all expected and not news

Kevin


User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1915 posts, RR: 2
Reply 34, posted (2 years 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 16391 times:
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I agree. The organisers should have known what to expect and informed the parents of the kids. I assume that each family received flight info and baggage info well beforehand. I know my kids have gotten info back before any of the foreign school tours we have managed to send them on. We knew if it was EI or FR about 2 months ahead of the departure.

I realise that these kids were a special case but unfortunately it is well known that FR do not accept 'special cases'.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 35, posted (2 years 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 16393 times:

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 31):
EI have confirmed that Wi-Fi will be installed on the A320 fleet starting next year:

Im looking forward to that and the results in terms of passenger numbers who will use it and the pricing structure of the package(s). Im sure it will be popular with business travellers on some key routes LHR/BRU/FRA etc.. The longer routes will make it more attractive to leisure travellers like Canaries etc...


User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 36, posted (2 years 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 16324 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 30):
Possibly fog related? The London airports all suffered from it yesterday morning.

Yes I believe it was fog related.



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User currently offlineei2ksea From Ireland, joined Jul 2004, 578 posts, RR: 0
Reply 37, posted (2 years 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 16337 times:

Its time for my annual trip home tonight with an EI BOS-SNN leg, which Im looking forward to.

I decided to crank things up a notch this year in terms of getting around so I'm flying BA DUB-LHR on Saturday morning and Flybe LGW-BHD on Monday evening. I'm looking forward to trying BA on the London route as well as experiencing BHD with Flybe. BA and Flybe ended up being quite a bit cheaper than EI for both of the flight dates I needed so I'll grab the opportunity to fly them with glee! I'll be heading back DUB-BOS with EI on January 6th then once again. I'll report back on my experiences along the way!



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 38, posted (2 years 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 16333 times:

A nice idea by Dublin Airport to bring some festive cheer to the Terminals :

Dublin Airport Christmas Entertainment Programme

Dublin Airport Launches Christmas Entertainment Programme As Christmas Day fast approaches, where better to start the Christmas season than at Dublin Airport as you are entertained with festive carols.Dublin Airport’s Terminals 1 and 2 will once again welcome visitors home to Ireland for Christmas and entertain those heading abroad this festive season with plenty of music from adult choral groups and choirs and orchestras from local schools, who always prove a huge hit with visitors.

http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-...stmas_Entertainment_Programme.aspx


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Reply 39, posted (2 years 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 16192 times:

And a nice treat for us next Summer, from AUH ...

Etihad's morning flight, EY 45/42, (arrives 06.40, leaves c.9am) will be a two class 77W ! The afternoon flight (which will be 4 weekly) will still be a 332.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 40, posted (2 years 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 16161 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 39):

Wow! Totally did not see that one coming!

One wonders if the EI codeshare is generating extra traffic to warrant this, with people foregoing Heathrow, and choosing the AUH option?



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User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3928 posts, RR: 9
Reply 41, posted (2 years 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 16148 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 30):
I guess that means another new lounge is on the way then, would be nice to get a lounge with some natural light or a view of the apron at LHR.

Not necessarily. I believe the so called "green mile" is to remain, but be connected to the new T2, that is what previous renderings showed, but that may have changed now. At LHR I think departures can use any gate, not so sure about domestic UK arrivals though, they need to be kept separate to avoid re-screening when connecting, and border control when O&D. Where do the EI flights to BHD operate from? Presumably the "domestic" region of the green mile? Although, if EI is still bussing connecting passengers to flight connections, it doesn't matter so much which gate they use.

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 34):
I realise that these kids were a special case but unfortunately it is well known that FR do not accept 'special cases'.

I suppose that is the thing with FR. The rules are not bent in any circumstance, strict adherence and, as you say, no special cases. In FR's defence they are consistent which, as any parent will tell you, is vital!



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User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4659 posts, RR: 23
Reply 42, posted (2 years 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 16127 times:

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 41):
Not necessarily. I believe the so called "green mile" is to remain, but be connected to the new T2, that is what previous renderings showed, but that may have changed now

That is what I heard as well - but it will be demolished when the rest of T1 goes though. However once T2 opens, that is what I heard the plan was.



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User currently offlineshamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1612 posts, RR: 1
Reply 43, posted (2 years 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 16105 times:

Seems BA will continue LHR-DUB next summer but with quite a reduced schedule, down by 3-4 daily flights it seems!

User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Reply 44, posted (2 years 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 16025 times:

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 43):
Seems BA will continue LHR-DUB next summer but with quite a reduced schedule, down by 3-4 daily flights it seems!

Makes me wonder if they want to carry it on; it's just one step from that to zip; they've probably already marked those slots for long haul (there's a shock!) ... looks like we'll soon be back to the days of one carrier on DUB-LHR.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 45, posted (2 years 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 16039 times:

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 43):
Seems BA will continue LHR-DUB next summer but with quite a reduced schedule, down by 3-4 daily flights it seems!

Yup, just checked in Amadeus - 5 flights daily. Disappointing after WW's waffle - interestingly, BHD is only at 5 a day too, despite the big promises!

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 42):
That is what I heard as well - but it will be demolished when the rest of T1 goes though. However once T2 opens, that is what I heard the plan was.

I wouldnt necessarily trust those renderings - they seem to just show new additions. It's highly likely T3 will be hugely reconfigured to conform to the "toast rack" terminal design they are trying achieve for the whole airport. The green mile could never really be described as a permanent solution anyway, and it would be totally incongrous with the new T2.



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User currently offlineEI320 From Ireland, joined Dec 2007, 1455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (2 years 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 15984 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 44):
Makes me wonder if they want to carry it on; it's just one step from that to zip; they've probably already marked those slots for long haul (there's a shock!) ... looks like we'll soon be back to the days of one carrier on DUB-LHR.

Indeed; their days on DUB-LHR would appear to be numbered. We're seeing a distinct lack of investment in their DUB-LHR product - the former BD lounge has been permanently closed, the route has been poorly marketed ever since the route launch and we're now seeing a significant reduction in frequency next summer. Not exactly the actions of an airline passionate about growing and developing a route in the long-term.

The cynic in me would say that the extra flights added this winter are merely slot warmers. BA will be more than happy to allow EI carry their pax as far as Heathrow once they're in a position to put those slots to better use. Give it maybe 18-24 months.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 47, posted (2 years 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 15969 times:

Quoting EI320 (Reply 46):
Indeed; their days on DUB-LHR would appear to be numbered. We're seeing a distinct lack of investment in their DUB-LHR product - the former BD lounge has been permanently closed, the route has been poorly marketed ever since the route launch and we're now seeing a significant reduction in frequency next summer. Not exactly the actions of an airline passionate about growing and developing a route in the long-term.

The cynic in me would say that the extra flights added this winter are merely slot warmers. BA will be more than happy to allow EI carry their pax as far as Heathrow once they're in a position to put those slots to better use. Give it maybe 18-24 months.

I doubt they will pull the route completely - EI are getting very close to Virgin now, and BA may find it loses the feed completely. Best to maintain that token presence and ensure a source of feed. A lot will depend on how EI's relationships with several interline / codeshare partners develop over the coming months.

Disappointing to say the least though - They did apparently put quite a bit of effort in developing relationships with the Irish travel trade.

It may simply be a case that EI, an airline with a significant cost advantage, is simply too tough a competitor.



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User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1915 posts, RR: 2
Reply 48, posted (2 years 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 15857 times:
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Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 47):
I doubt they will pull the route completely - EI are getting very close to Virgin now, and BA may find it loses the feed completely. Best to maintain that token presence and ensure a source of feed.

On the other hand EI may be happy to keep the status quo, as in sending DUB-LHR pax to BA and DUB-LGW pax to VS.

Remember that this is just a 3 year wet lease, no mention of codeshares or increased interlining.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 49, posted (2 years 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 15786 times:

Well, it appears not only are EY putting the 773 on the morning DUB-AUH service, they are also adding two extra frequencies, making the evening service 6 times a week, A332, for a total of 12 weekly flights.

It shall be interesting to see what EK's competitive response shall be.....



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User currently offlineaerecosse From UK - Scotland, joined Mar 2009, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 50, posted (2 years 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 15739 times:

re EY increase .... was their always an arrival @14.25 into DUB or is this a new one? Been on the 7.30 arrival on a number of trips & used both morning & evening departures but wasn't aware of this one. Could we see EK & EY on the stands at the same time?

http://airlineroute.net/2012/12/14/ey-s13update3/



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User currently offlineshamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1612 posts, RR: 1
Reply 51, posted (2 years 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 15729 times:

The 1425 arrival has been around quite a while! By the time it arrives the EKms scheduled to have departed however.

User currently offlineshamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1612 posts, RR: 1
Reply 52, posted (2 years 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 15800 times:

The 1425 arrival has been around quite a while! By the time it arrives the EK scheduled to have departed however.

User currently offlinebestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7302 posts, RR: 57
Reply 53, posted (2 years 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 15545 times:

Quoting EI320 (Reply 46):
the former BD lounge has been permanently closed,

Isnt the new Anna Livia lounge taking over both the DAA and the Bmi lounge?

Quoting BrianDromey (Reply 41):
I believe the so called "green mile" is to remain

The green mile is located to the 'north'-ish of Terminal 1, whilst Terminal 2 is located to the 'south'-ish of terminal 1. The walk for passengers would be more than doubled, so i expect EI to move to a new home in terminal 2.



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User currently offlineeicvd From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 2188 posts, RR: 5
Reply 54, posted (2 years 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 15468 times:

Quoting aerecosse (Reply 50):
was their always an arrival @14.25 into DUB or is this a new one?

I think the evening departure always arrived at that time.


User currently offlinecipango From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 751 posts, RR: 0
Reply 55, posted (2 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 15459 times:

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 52):
The 1425 arrival has been around quite a while! By the time it arrives the EK scheduled to have departed however.

When the EK flight departs, EY lands usually directly after/before. They also use the same gate in Terminal 2 and do a simple gate swap.


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 3003 posts, RR: 0
Reply 56, posted (2 years 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 15275 times:

BA is now codesharing on the BE/LC Donegal-Dublin route allowing through-bookings from CFN to LHR and beyond...


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User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 57, posted (2 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 15223 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 56):
BA is now codesharing on the BE/LC Donegal-Dublin route allowing through-bookings from CFN to LHR and beyond...

So they are! Who'd have thunk it!

It's actually very good now that the smaller regional airports in Ireland such as KIR, NOC, WAT and CFN are now in the GDS systems through airline partners that do actually list their schedules in the GDS's.

This was not the case even 2 years ago!



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User currently offlineirishair98 From Ireland, joined Dec 2011, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 58, posted (2 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 15215 times:
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Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 56):
Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 57):

the demand is there for the CFN - LHR path the amount of people in my area near CFN that are heading off to London to work is rediculous and many people in the area are looking for a direct flight to any of the london airports because theyre sick of connecting in dublin or driving to NOC , BFS , BHD , DUB or LDY and would much rather just doind a direct flight from CFN - LHR , LGW etc. but would a Saab 340 be able to do this journey



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User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 3003 posts, RR: 0
Reply 59, posted (2 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 15196 times:

Back to the DUB terminal/pier issue for a minute - is this how things look at the moment? I assume charter flights are divided between the three T1 piers?

TERMINAL 1
Pier A
Aer Lingus Regional/Aer Arann
Air France/CityJet
Flybe/Loganair
Iberia Express
Lufthansa Regional/Eurowings

Pier B
AirBaltic
Air Canada
Air Moldova
Air Transat
British Airways
Lufthansa
SATA International
Scandinavian Airlines (SAS)
Swiss International Air Lines
S7 Airlines
Turkish Airlines

Pier D
Blue Air
Germanwings
Norwegian Air Shuttle
Ryanair
SmartWings

TERMINAL 2
Pier E
Aer Lingus
American Airlines
Delta Air Lines
Emirates
Etihad Airways
United Airlines
US Airways



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User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 60, posted (2 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 15194 times:

Quoting irishair98 (Reply 58):
but would a Saab 340 be able to do this journey

It would be able, yes, but it would be a bloody long journey in a prop. I'd nearly suggest a well timed connection in DUB would be faster!



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User currently offlineirishair98 From Ireland, joined Dec 2011, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 61, posted (2 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 15176 times:
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Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 60):


to DUB from CFN would be a half hour. it would be around a 2 hour journey and would be much faster than DUB.



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User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 62, posted (2 years 5 days ago) and read 15140 times:

A few Corrections:

TERMINAL 1
Pier A
Aer Lingus Regional/Aer Arann
Air France/CityJet
Flybe/Loganair

Pier B
Aer Lingus
AirBaltic
Air Canada
Air Moldova
Air Transat
British Airways
Lufthansa
SATA International
Swiss International Air Lines
S7 Airlines
Turkish Airlines
Iberia Express
Lufthansa Regional/Eurowings
Blue Air
Germanwings
SmartWings

Pier D
Norwegian Air Shuttle
Scandinavian SAS
Ryanair


TERMINAL 2
Pier E
Aer Lingus
American Airlines
Delta Air Lines
Emirates
Etihad Airways
United Airlines
US Airways



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User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 3003 posts, RR: 0
Reply 63, posted (2 years 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 14842 times:

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 62):

Thanks for that. Why is SAS at Pier D? Would they not prefer to use the airbridges?

In ORK news, W6 will discontinue VNO, WRO and WMI just months after FR jumped on the bandwagon competing with them directly...where have we seen this before?!

I wonder will W6 consider routes at SNN...



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User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 64, posted (2 years 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14696 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 63):
Thanks for that. Why is SAS at Pier D? Would they not prefer to use the airbridges?

Good question. I can only guess it's because they often have 3 aircraft on the ground at the same time, that there were concerns that Pier B may be full at that time (which it can be during the summer months at that time slot)

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 63):
In ORK news, W6 will discontinue VNO, WRO and WMI just months after FR jumped on the bandwagon competing with them directly...where have we seen this before?!

I wonder will W6 consider routes at SNN...

I doubt it. I'd imagine they are aware FR will try to pen some deal with the new SAA.



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User currently offlineEIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 496 posts, RR: 0
Reply 65, posted (2 years 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 14647 times:

Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 56):
BA is now codesharing on the BE/LC Donegal-Dublin route allowing through-bookings from CFN to LHR and beyond...

This was obviously planned for a while, because the check-in desk (all one of them) in CFN has had BA logos on it alongside the Flybe ones since January at least.

CFN has never really had many other services than DUB and one of GLA/PIK; I'm sure there is some demand for BHX, MAN and a London flight due to historic emigration patterns as well as current; but whether people would pay enough is another question entirely.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 66, posted (2 years 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 14628 times:

Quoting EIDL (Reply 65):
CFN has never really had many other services than DUB and one of GLA/stwick (PIK / EGPK), United Kingdom">PIK; I'm sure there is some demand for BHX, MAN and a London flight due to historic emigration patterns as well as current; but whether people would pay enough is another question entirely.

That's exactly the crux of the matter. Costs on a prop spread over so few passengers are high, and that has to be compensated for by fares. Up against competing services from LDY and NOC on 737-800's, it may just be too difficult, despite obvious demand.

[Edited 2012-12-15 14:04:14]


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User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1961 posts, RR: 9
Reply 67, posted (2 years 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 14550 times:
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Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 63):
In ORK news, W6 will discontinue VNO, WRO and WMI just months after FR jumped on the bandwagon competing with them directly...where have we seen this before?!

Doesn't exactly come as a surpise to any of us. We all predicted this when FR announced they were going to serve these destinations from ORK. I am sure though that the new SAA will possibly target W6 as a possible new airline to serve some of these routes as they have been on ORK for a while and therefore were presumably doing pretty well there until FR butted in.

Quoting shamrock604 (Reply 66):
That's exactly the crux of the matter. Costs on a prop spread over so few passengers are high, and that has to be compensated for by fares. Up against competing services from LDY and NOC on 737-800's, it may just be too difficult, despite obvious demand.

Not to mention that CFN is in the absolute middle of nowhere and is a complete nightmare to get to. It must be one of the last places in Ireland you would expect to find a commercial airport. It is a good 45 minute drive (and I quote from their Wikipedia page) 'in good weather' from Letterkenny. I can't imagine anyone from Letterkenny willing ro drive all they way out there to pay a premium fare to fly on a small turboprop when they can make the much easier trip to LDY for a cheaper fare on a jet aircraft.



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User currently offlineEIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 496 posts, RR: 0
Reply 68, posted (2 years 4 days ago) and read 14499 times:

Don't think anyone from Letterkenny ever uses CFN - LDY is much closer. Its effectively just used for the Rosses really. Hence there likely being demand to fill a 33 seater but not much bigger. Actually a Beech 1900 would probably be the right size for any other routes...

During the boom there was definitely the yield available from construction workers doing weekend commuting, many were flying to LDY/DUB/BHD/BFS and driving home, but nobody tried it then so I doubt it'll be tried now.


User currently offlineirishair98 From Ireland, joined Dec 2011, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 69, posted (2 years 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 14464 times:
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Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 67):

In all honesty it's 45 minutes In normal weather I take that route about once a week and Is always 40 minutes and the roads are getting done all the way to CFN and being extremely upgraded took the council feckin long enuf!

Quoting EIDL (Reply 68):

People weren't even trying to get flights to London during the boom but people are really looking for a direct route now. I know people from all over the west of Donegal willing to use CFN to dub and especially GLA as there not willing to pay 200 euro for petrol up and down to dublin and I was down just 2 weeks ago and was waiting for relative to Deboard and the loads were pretty good for DUB - CFN on a random Thursday and people are reaching out to MP's TD's loganair and the government to get a route from CFN to LON



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User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1490 posts, RR: 3
Reply 70, posted (2 years 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 14414 times:

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 67):
(Wizz) were presumably doing pretty well there until FR butted in.

Not according to the letter from a Wizz official in yesterday's Irish Times.

Always struck me as strange that ORK had service to some Polish cities not served at all from DUB.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 71, posted (2 years 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 14255 times:

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 70):
Not according to the letter from a Wizz official in yesterday's Irish Times.

Always struck me as strange that ORK had service to some Polish cities not served at all from DUB.

Indeed I always forgot about the Wizz Air services from ORK . Such random routes!


User currently offlineaidansnn From Ireland, joined Jun 2010, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 72, posted (2 years 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 14057 times:

In my view, the erosion of Wizzair services was inevitable following Ryanair's latest commencement of routes, I just didn't expect it to be so soon. How long before the other three routes meet their demise?

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 70):
Always struck me as strange that ORK had service to some Polish cities not served at all from DUB.

Really - which cities are these?

Quoting dstc47 (Reply 70):
Not according to the letter from a Wizz official in yesterday's Irish Times.

Just found the letter you were referring to - very interesting, and unusual that a company manager would write a letter in this fashion.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...tters/2012/1215/1224327874181.html

Quoting OA260 (Reply 71):
Such random routes!

Don't really agree with you there. There has long been a strong demand for services from outside The Pale to eastern and central European cities due to large Polish and Lithuanian populations in the south and west. Admittedly however some, but not all, of these services "met low demand".

Aidan


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 73, posted (2 years 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 14020 times:

Quoting aidansnn (Reply 72):
Just found the letter you were referring to - very interesting, and unusual that a company manager would write a letter in this fashion.
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/....html

Although quite good for him to take the time to put his side of the story which is most professional IMHO .

Quoting aidansnn (Reply 72):
There has long been a strong demand for services from outside The Pale to eastern and central European cities due to large Polish and Lithuanian populations in the south and west.

But if we are to believe the content of the letter above these ex pats did not/could not support a route(s) which can often be the case. Often even a large ex pat community cant support regular direct flights. I still view them as random despite the diaspora you mention.


User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6372 posts, RR: 14
Reply 74, posted (2 years 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 13948 times:

Quoting aidansnn (Reply 72):
Just found the letter you were referring to - very interesting, and unusual that a company manager would write a letter in this fashion.

Almost sounds like they didn't want people to think Ryanair had defeated them.

I would find his claim that Cork to Vilnius, Warsaw and Wroclaw have always underperformed more believable if they were new routes but Warsaw has been in operation since 2008, Wroclaw 2010 and Vilnius 2011. I don't buy that a route operating since 2008 has always underperformed yet managed to survive 4 years!

Vilnius as a newer route probably has struggled and hasn't had time to mature but Wroclaw and Warsaw seemed to do quite well for Wizzair or they would have gone long before now. Simply put, these routes have ended because Ryanair has come in with lower fares and Wizz can't compete but I'd never expect management to admit that.

It's a shame, Cork takes another step in becoming a green and blue airport only.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 75, posted (2 years 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 13908 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 74):

Yeah, that's exactly how I read that letter too.

Just a "Ryanair didnt beat us, we're just being fiscally responsible" rant.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 76, posted (2 years 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 13600 times:

Some welcome news for RE :

17DEC2012: Stobart to acquire another 40% of Aer Arann Regional

Aer Arann Regional (RE, Dublin International (DUB)) can get new investment by logistics provider Stobart Group after receiving approval from the UK competition authority for the proposed transaction.

http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...e-another-40-of-aer-arann-regional


User currently offlineEIBoston From Ireland, joined Sep 2006, 460 posts, RR: 1
Reply 77, posted (2 years 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 13570 times:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1217/aer-lingus-pensions-business.html

Classic line in the pension dispute.
"Asked whether staff had any chance of preserving their existing benefit expectations, he said Aer Lingus was a company with €990m in cash which they wanted to give to wealthy billionaires.

He said giving some of that to staff to plug the pension deficit would go a long way to resolving the issue."

This is going to get ugly.....


User currently offlinebestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7302 posts, RR: 57
Reply 78, posted (2 years 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 13120 times:

Do wealthy billionaires include the staff who own part of the airline?


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User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1961 posts, RR: 9
Reply 79, posted (2 years 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 13067 times:
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Quoting bestwestern (Reply 78):
Do wealthy billionaires include the staff who own part of the airline?

Not to mention the possibility other private pension funds that may have invested in Aer Lingus shares in which their beneficiaries have invested millions of their hard earned cash in the hope of a good retirement whom have seen their investments go downthe toilet and don't have an employer they can bully nor a union whom can do the bullying. Aer Lingus is not a semi state company anymore and the sooner this crowd get out of thie communist mentality the better off they and the company they work for in will be the long run.



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User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1915 posts, RR: 2
Reply 80, posted (2 years 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 12919 times:
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Quoting bestwestern (Reply 78):
Do wealthy billionaires include the staff who own part of the airline?

Ok...I'll bite......

staff have 15% of a company with 1bn in the bank......so that makes that 15% worth approx 150M......divide by almost 4000 (I think it is approx 3800 staff) you get 37K Euro per staff member................thats a bit short of the term 'billionaire'.......unless you count the CEO and CFO and Chairman in that catch all term? And lets not forget that quite a proportion of that 15% may well have been sold over the least year or two...(recession and all that)





*I realise that the company value is actually less than the current cash pile but wanted to help bestwestern out here......


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 81, posted (2 years 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 12874 times:

Congrats to DUB on this award.

Dublin Airport has won a major international award for its innovative use of social media.Dublin Airport’s Twitter account has been named Best Airport Twitter Feed in the Moodies, which are the world’s first airport-specific digital, mobile and social media awards.

More than 160 submissions were received for the awards, which recognise innovation and excellence in social media by airports, and airport retailers. The awards take their name from The Moodie Report, an international publisher and website operator devoted to the global travel retail and airport sectors.

http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-...ernational_Social_Media_Award.aspx

I must admit I rarely follow them on Twitter unless there is a need to seek information due to disruptions etc... I have to say though they do offer some decent info and advice on it .


User currently offlineEIBoston From Ireland, joined Sep 2006, 460 posts, RR: 1
Reply 82, posted (2 years 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 12815 times:

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 79):
Aer Lingus is not a semi state company anymore and the sooner this crowd get out of thie communist mentality the better off they and the company they work for in will be the long run.

I dont think get it at all. I am so sick of this attitude. The union days should be over...


User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1915 posts, RR: 2
Reply 83, posted (2 years 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12722 times:
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Quoting EIBoston (Reply 82):

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 79):
Aer Lingus is not a semi state company anymore and the sooner this crowd get out of thie communist mentality the better off they and the company they work for in will be the long run.

I dont think get it at all. I am so sick of this attitude. The union days should be over...

I agree that EI is now a private comapny and so is beholden to deliver value for money and profits for its shareholders. I agree that EI cannot just decide to drop large amounts of cash into the pension fund...............

...but don't forget that EI since its privatisation has been continuing to make its staff to join and/or pay into this pension fund as part of their contract.


User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6372 posts, RR: 14
Reply 84, posted (2 years 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12650 times:

Happy Christmas from Aer Lingus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti1rjOhdjBw

Nice little video.

Shamrock350


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Reply 85, posted (2 years 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12649 times:

Just looking at the thread about Pegasus's order for A320NEOs, which now takes total orders to about 1,650. I don't know what EI's current plans are, but even at a very ambitious production rate (30 per month, 360 pa), that's four and a half years production, which means an airline ordering them now wouldn't get them much before 2020, although around 360 have been ordered by lessors.

They wouldn't want to hang around too much longer; most of them (the DEx batch) were built around 2004-2006, so they'll be around 14-16 years in service by then.


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Reply 86, posted (2 years 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 12624 times:

The Minister for Transport has just announced that the govt has decided not to accept FR's offer to buy its 25% stake in Aer Lingus.

 


User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1915 posts, RR: 2
Reply 87, posted (2 years 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 12580 times:
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Here's a link to that statement:

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1218/var...offer-for-aer-lingus-business.html


Thats this takeover attempt scuppered....FR cannot get enough shareholders to agree even if the EU allow it to progress.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 88, posted (2 years 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 12488 times:

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 87):

Great news for Irish Aviation . It would be a disaster if it was allowed to happen.


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 3003 posts, RR: 0
Reply 89, posted (2 years 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 12424 times:

FR will launch a seasonal weekly flight between NOC and AGP beginning 4th April. This is in addition to the ALC, BRS, EMA, FAO, GRO, LPA, ACE, LPL, LTN, STN, BGY and TFS routes already served by FR from there.

http://www.irelandwestairport.com/utility/news_details.aspx?id=312
http://www.ryanair.com/ie/news/ryana...r-announces-new-knock-malaga-route

NOC-BVA and NOC-HHN will not return next summer.

[Edited 2012-12-18 13:51:34]


Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineei2ksea From Ireland, joined Jul 2004, 578 posts, RR: 0
Reply 90, posted (2 years 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 12366 times:

Im just back home in Limerick after my little jaunt over the past week: BOS-SNN (EI), DUB-LHR (BA) and LGW-BHD (BE). All the flights were very enjoyable. A very professional EI crew from BOS. I must also say the British Airways service, even on a short leg like DUB-LHR was truly excellent. Flybe surprised me a lot, the LGW experience was fast, trouble free and the service was very good on their Embraer 195. Again, as I always thnk when I fly the larger Embraers in the US with B6, I cannot help but wonder what opportunities an aircraft of that size could present for EI! Finally it was a true pleasure driving by DUB earlier today and seeing an EK B777, US B757, DL B757 amongst others on the tarmac. There was quite the buzz around the place!


Next Flight: DUB-BOS (EI), BOS-DEN-PDX (SWA), SEA-BOS (AS)
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 91, posted (2 years 13 hours ago) and read 12103 times:

Quoting ei2ksea (Reply 90):
I must also say the British Airways service, even on a short leg like DUB-LHR was truly excellent.

Indeed over the last 4 weeks I have done numerous flights DUB-LHR in Club Europe and BHD-LHR in Y and the service has been great.


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4659 posts, RR: 23
Reply 92, posted (2 years 11 hours ago) and read 12010 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 91):
Indeed over the last 4 weeks I have done numerous flights DUB-LHR in Club Europe

Any ideas on what service you get on LHR-DUB on a 9pm departure in Club Europe?

The reason I ask is due to BA revenue management. I booked LHR-DUB for £69 for April (one way) and the one way Club Europe price was £321. However, when I manage my booking, I can upgrade the sector for another £69. I probably will anyway as my record in champagne consumption was 3 piccolos on a LGW-DUB flight in Club Europe :P ... Wobbly getting off, but satisfied   So what is the food service? Always had good meals on BA, but curious as to what they are offering at the moment in the evening time on such a short Club Europe flight.



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 93, posted (2 years 8 hours ago) and read 11903 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 92):

I got this on a 6pm LHR-DUB . Was very nice especially the dessert.  http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/DSC01828.jpg

This is classed as dinner from 17:00 to 23:59 so you should get similar.


User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 834 posts, RR: 10
Reply 94, posted (2 years 8 hours ago) and read 11882 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 92):
The reason I ask is due to BA revenue management. I booked LHR-DUB for £69 for April (one way) and the one way Club Europe price was £321. However, when I manage my booking, I can upgrade the sector for another £69

If you book BA DUB-LHR (or v/v) in economy and then upgrade it, then which class do you earn miles in?



Next Flights: EI DUB-LHR A320, BA LHR-SFO B744, UA SFO-LAS A320, BA LAS-LHR B744, EI LHR-DUB A320
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 95, posted (2 years 7 hours ago) and read 11848 times:

Quoting EIRules (Reply 94):

Tier Points and miles would be CE as per upgraded fare Class.


User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1915 posts, RR: 2
Reply 96, posted (2 years 2 hours ago) and read 11650 times:
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FR will be very mad, first screen scrapping, now this.............. FR tickets are available on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...01307&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1123


User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1961 posts, RR: 9
Reply 97, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 11485 times:
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Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 96):
FR will be very mad, first screen scrapping, now this.............. FR tickets are available on ebay:

Can you even do this? I would have though FR would fleece you if your tried to change the name on the ticket.



Next Flights: CX178 MEL-HKG; CX257 HKG-LHR; EI387 LHR-SNN; EI384 SNN-LHR; CX250 LHR-HKG; CX135 HKG-MEL
User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Reply 98, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 11138 times:

Norwegian to serve HEL twice weekly from DUB, next Summer!

Helsinki – Dublin eff 12APR13 2 weekly
DY5824 HEL1700 – 1810DUB 73H 15
DY5825 DUB1840 – 2350HEL 73H 15

Every little helps!


User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6372 posts, RR: 14
Reply 99, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 11118 times:

Aer Lingus are going 6 daily to BHX from June 1st with the introduction of 3 Aer Lingus Regional services in addition to the 3 mainline flights. Wonder where the spare capacity is coming from, the Aer Lingus Regional flight seems to overnight in Birmingham.

User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4659 posts, RR: 23
Reply 100, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 11111 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 93):
This is classed as dinner from 17:00 to 23:59 so you should get similar.

Oh, now that looks great - right up my alley! Looks like it's time to upgrade that ticket!  
Quoting EIRules (Reply 94):
If you book BA DUB-LHR (or v/v) in economy and then upgrade it, then which class do you earn miles in?

As OA260 said, you get the Club miles/tier points.



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1961 posts, RR: 9
Reply 101, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 11006 times:
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Just noticed this on Yahoo homepage

Ryanair: Airline Bottom Of Which? Survey

http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/rya...rline-bottom-survey-050830612.html

Good to see that Aer Lingus came in at a more than respectable fourth after Swiss, Turkish and Lufthansa. Not at all bat when you consider who the top three are!



Next Flights: CX178 MEL-HKG; CX257 HKG-LHR; EI387 LHR-SNN; EI384 SNN-LHR; CX250 LHR-HKG; CX135 HKG-MEL
User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Reply 102, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11040 times:

Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 101):
Ryanair: Airline Bottom Of Which? Survey

http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/rya...rline-bottom-survey-050830612.html

Good to see that Aer Lingus came in at a more than respectable fourth after Swiss, Turkish and Lufthansa. Not at all bat when you consider who the top three are!

I found it funny that it only included airliners that it only considered airlines that got 30 or more references ... Aer Lingus, Swiss Turkish all had around 40-60, obviously good ...

Ryanair got over 500! And how much do they care? Not a jot ... water off a duck's back!


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 103, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11006 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 100):
Oh, now that looks great - right up my alley!

Indeed very acceptable  
Quoting tonymctigue (Reply 101):
Just noticed this on Yahoo homepage

I saw that on Sky News too. I do agree with the comments on LX and TK though as thats my experience on their flights too especially Swiss having done over 100 flights with them .


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 3003 posts, RR: 0
Reply 104, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 10991 times:

An unruly passenger was removed from one of yesterday's BA LCY-JFK flights during the stopover at SNN; the flight arrived on-time at JFK and the captain was able to testify in court yesterday as the flightcrew nightstop at SNN en route.

http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/1219/court-damian-kingston.html



Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 105, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 10903 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 98):

A very effective schedule too, with EI operating on days 2 and 6.

It gives people extra options on that route and I would think DY will get quite a few one way bookings.



Flown EI,FR,RE,EIR,VE,SI,TLA,BA,BE,BD,VX,MON,AF,YS,WX,KL,SK,LH,OK,OS,LX,IB,LTU,HLX,4U,SU,CO,DL,UA,AC,PR,MH,SQ,QF, EY, EK
User currently offlinerineanna From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 12
Reply 106, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days ago) and read 10841 times:

Just landed back in Ireland after the epic trip from down under. Flew EK all the way through from AKL, which included my first trip on an A380 (eeek - about 5 years too late!). I can only surmise that EK and Etihad are making a killing from the Irish diaspora this Christmas. There were quite a few Irish accents from AKL and again from MEL. The 773 from DXB to DUB was jam packed, even in Business from what I could see. I booked in May and the fare was still a little big morce expensive than what I paid to fly home last Christmas with NZ and AF (booked in November), so nice yields all around.

Anecdotally, friends and cousins in Oz have also chosen EK for the ease of flying directly into DUB rather than having a third leg to the journey via a European hub. I'm just hoping for SQ or Scoot to start a DUB 788/9 service so I can give Changi a go!


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3928 posts, RR: 9
Reply 107, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 10660 times:

Flying into ORK from MAN tonight and checked out the EI app. Interestingly you can now check-in FROM ORK to most destinations across the network, but only LHR TO ORK. The app notes that passengers flying to DUB and SNN can use the app for All UK destinations. I wonder why?


Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1915 posts, RR: 2
Reply 108, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10556 times:
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Quoting AmricanShamrok (Reply 104):
An unruly passenger was removed from one of yesterday's BA LCY-JFK flights during the stopover at SNN; the flight arrived on-time at JFK and the captain was able to testify in court yesterday as the flightcrew nightstop at SNN en route.

Ah the usual excuse of precribed medication and alcohol..........at this point this should no longer be a defense.

LCY-SNN is approx 1 hours, the captain says they were 90 mins out of SNN when the incident happened. So total time on board 2 1/2 hours, I guess he was unruly for a while before the restrained him. Lets call it 2 hours total.

Zanax, Ambien AND 4-5 mini wines.......idiot.


User currently offlineJambost From Ireland, joined Jun 2010, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 109, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 10510 times:

Quoting rineanna (Reply 106):

Some great feedback, and promising load factors.

There was rumours that a Chinese carrier was sniffing around with the government visits in the past, but could be years before anything could materialise.

Just basic curiosity, if EK were thinking of A380 ops to DUB would they be open and request the needed airport upgrades or would they expect DUB to be one step ahead to accommodate them? this being down the line with multiple successful frequency increases.



1APR14 Ireland Direct, 3 A380-9LR,Equiped Irish Bar & Casino. All Y+ seating. Serving DUB-PER-SYD/MEL
User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 110, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 10471 times:

Quoting Jambost (Reply 109):
Just basic curiosity, if EK were thinking of A380 ops to DUB would they be open and request the needed airport upgrades or would they expect DUB to be one step ahead to accommodate them? this being down the line with multiple successful frequency increases.

A380 compatibility is being looked into already.


User currently offlineJambost From Ireland, joined Jun 2010, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 111, posted (1 year 12 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 10425 times:

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 110):

Relieved & glad to hear it, sorry if I missed that before.



1APR14 Ireland Direct, 3 A380-9LR,Equiped Irish Bar & Casino. All Y+ seating. Serving DUB-PER-SYD/MEL
User currently offlinerineanna From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 880 posts, RR: 12
Reply 112, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 10086 times:

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 110):
A380 compatibility is being looked into already.

Forgive my ignorance, but wouldn't that require a runway extension, which was blocked the last time the idea was proposed?


User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Reply 113, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 10085 times:

I don't think runway length is an issue; DUB-DXB is not a long trip for an A380; the big issue would be whether the exits and taxiways would be wide enough to accommodate it. I think there is a certain grade ("F" comes to mind, but I stand to be corrected) that the taxiways have to be, which might require some widening in DUB's case.

Good to know they're looking at it; wouldn't that be cool, if it happened!


User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1292 posts, RR: 0
Reply 114, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9939 times:

Quoting rineanna (Reply 112):
Forgive my ignorance, but wouldn't that require a runway extension, which was blocked the last time the idea was proposed?

Nope, just need to look at things like taxiway turns, wingtip clearances and such.
Then you need to modify a gate to accomodate it.

I don't know the outcome of the study but i would expect some small modifications would need to be made in Dublin to accomodate it on a regular basis.


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 115, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 9934 times:

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 108):
Ah the usual excuse of precribed medication and alcohol..........at this point this should no longer be a defense.

Indeed people always play the medication card and its not acceptable anymore. If they are on that then don't drink. Not rocket science. He and others must pay the ultimate price of jail !

Quoting kaitak (Reply 113):
I think there is a certain grade ("F" comes to mind, but I stand to be corrected) that the taxiways have to be, which might require some widening in DUB's case.

Yes I think that is the case but I doubt it would be an issue and I'm sure the powers that be would be more than willing to get the A380 at DUB . Would be a publicity coup for sure.


User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1915 posts, RR: 2
Reply 116, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 9891 times:
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Quoting OA260 (Reply 115):
Indeed people always play the medication card and its not acceptable anymore. If they are on that then don't drink. Not rocket science. He and others must pay the ultimate price of jail !

And as the marketing manager of a 'high profile company' he should be aware of the need to follow the instruction on the medications.......ie "do not take alcohol with this medications" and/or "do not mix with other medications"


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3928 posts, RR: 9
Reply 117, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 9886 times:

Had a lovely trip back to ORK yesterday with EIR. It seems there are quite a few regulars on the route, with a few passengers being welcomed by name by the crew and shown to their usual seat.
EI no longer use the Servisair lounge at MAN, now using the newer Escape lounge. This is quite a nice lounge with a selection of sandwiches made in the kitchen to order. There are also options for hot food, although this does incur an extra charge. The service is waiter based, so they bring you drinks, snacks etc as you wish, which is nice. The complementary offering in the morning includes Bacon sandwiches, etc according to the menu. The lounge is large and well lit, with a few different zones and a specific childrens area. The only downside is the lack of any natural daylight, which the Servisair lounge has in abundance, with great views over the tarmac.

Brian.



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 118, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 9859 times:

Quoting EagleBoy (Reply 116):
And as the marketing manager of a 'high profile company' he should be aware of the need to follow the instruction on the medications.......ie "do not take alcohol with this medications" and/or "do not mix with other medications"

Indeed. Sometimes its these so called ''high profile'' managers and intellectuals that seem to be the worst.

On another note seems the airports are busy. Loads of my friends are home from OZ and Canada for Xmas. Good to see  


User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 119, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 9804 times:

Mr An Post just arrived with a nice gift from Aer Lingus. Very nice I must say .  http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/39E2CE9A-4CD5-40F0-86CC-D9718C066F8C-1249-000000B8B81D079A.jpg

User currently offlineAer Lingus From Ireland, joined May 2000, 1569 posts, RR: 0
Reply 120, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 9771 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 113):

Yes it's Code F compliance we are looking for, which is a 55m width clear of anything higher than 330mm off the ground. The minimum pavement width required for code F aircraft is 4.5m either side of the outside of the main gear for the design aircraft. In Dublin's case I'm not sure if the runway parallel Bravo taxiways have this clearance but I stand to be corrected. In addition some taxiway fillets may be required where turns are needed and a virtual tracking exercise would have to be undertaken to get the dimensions precisely.


User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4659 posts, RR: 23
Reply 121, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 9677 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 119):
Mr An Post just arrived with a nice gift from Aer Lingus. Very nice I must say .

Oh very nice indeed, Mr Elite Tier  



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 122, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9544 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 121):
Oh very nice indeed, Mr Elite Tier  

Yes its a nice thing to get . Better than some of the junk Airlines normally send out. Ironically BA is getting my business at the moment. They just offer me more of what I need. 2 free checked bags ( 3 when Im in CE which is 90% of the time ) /free seat selection etc.. wish EI would offer the same to its GC members. Would have made a huge difference to me. I am doing lots of home improvements at the moment and ordering things to my UK address as its so much cheaper. So the luggage allowance is of a great benefit to me when shipping it back.


User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 834 posts, RR: 10
Reply 123, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9462 times:

I see DL are putting the A330 back on ATL-DUB for selected summer flights starting in June. Good news indeed. With the 777 from EY and the new AA service to JFK, once again DUB sees an increase in long haul capacity for the summer


Next Flights: EI DUB-LHR A320, BA LHR-SFO B744, UA SFO-LAS A320, BA LAS-LHR B744, EI LHR-DUB A320
User currently offlinetonymctigue From Ireland, joined Feb 2006, 1961 posts, RR: 9
Reply 124, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9369 times:
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Quoting EIRules (Reply 123):
I see DL are putting the A330 back on ATL-DUB for selected summer flights starting in June. Good news indeed. With the 777 from EY and the new AA service to JFK, once again DUB sees an increase in long haul capacity for the summer

It really is great to see long haul doing so well again at DUB and indeed at SNN. It makes such a difference not only to the country but for those who have emmigrated to find work. If we could just get EK or EY to serve SNN as well... We can dream!



Next Flights: CX178 MEL-HKG; CX257 HKG-LHR; EI387 LHR-SNN; EI384 SNN-LHR; CX250 LHR-HKG; CX135 HKG-MEL
User currently offlinebestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7302 posts, RR: 57
Reply 125, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 9252 times:

Firstly, happy Christmas to everyone. I haven't posted that much here this year due to work pressures - but then at least I have a job.

This year started with an EI A320 to Amsterdam and ends today with an EI A320 from Amsterdam, with over 90 flights in between. Flying continues to be an easy form of travel - Very few badly delayed flights, one cancellation, one in flight emergency diversion (both in the same week) one dodgy landing and lots of good service in between.

CityJet continue to be excellent, as do Aer Lingus who continue to refine their value proposition. If they can make money in a major recession, things look good for the future.

Anyway, some predictions for 2013...

EI to be in the hands of new foreign owners by end 2013
FR to continue to downsize Irish operations - move head office over EI sale?
EK to go double daily, or announce A380 for 2014
KL to announce their own metal to Ireland from AMS for 2014. WX perhaps?
Waterford and Sligo to close.
IB to Exit Irish market, code share with EI.
SK to exit or downsize in the Irish market.
Finnair to return to Dublin to feed Asian hub.
EI to announce Canada for 2014
LH to add frequency to FRA, and announce proper MUC schedule for 2014
EI to code share with VS to Ireland from the UK and the US.
BA to reduce frequencies to Ireland
Air Arabia to Dublin
Air Berlin to Dublin


Sadly, I see no major changes in Shannon. Fingers crossed that the new routes and frequencies survive the test of time.
I can still see a UA 757 to cork being a success, although I don't want to feed the PPrune conspiracy theory nuts.



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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Reply 126, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 9243 times:

Some very interesting predictions there! I hope some do come through (EK for example), but many f the others, I hope not! If EI does end up in foreign hands, I hope it's EY (and then it can't be more than 50%), because IAG will really only want EI for its LHR slots.

It would be good to see KL coming to DUB ... but hopefully not via WX; that would be a total turnoff; they'd do better staying with EI.

Certainly agree re LH to MUC; either do it properly or not at all!

I wonder if we might finally be able to get UA (or even EI) to do SFO for 2014? And if not west coast, could EI do another east cost or even midwest destination.

I take it the Air Arabia route would be from CMN?

Quoting bestwestern (Reply 125):

EI to be in the hands of new foreign owners by end 2013
FR to continue to downsize Irish operations - move head office over EI sale?
EK to go double daily, or announce A380 for 2014
KL to announce their own metal to Ireland from AMS for 2014. WX perhaps?
Waterford and Sligo to close.
IB to Exit Irish market, code share with EI.
SK to exit or downsize in the Irish market.
Finnair to return to Dublin to feed Asian hub.
EI to announce Canada for 2014
LH to add frequency to FRA, and announce proper MUC schedule for 2014
EI to code share with VS to Ireland from the UK and the US.
BA to reduce frequencies to Ireland
Air Arabia to Dublin
Air Berlin to Dublin


User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 834 posts, RR: 10
Reply 127, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 9281 times:

I can see some of those predictions coming to pass for sure!

I cannot see IB (or whatever guise they are now in) continuing to DUB. Their token presence is of little use for O&D due to the timings of their flights and some of their long haul connections have very long connection times as a result, so yes it would make sense to codeshare with EI. But then I never thought it made sense for them to drop it in the first place!

VS codeshares to LHR & LGW would seem to make sense with EI now operating the VS domestic flights, but are they going to come at the expense of the BA feed? Surely EI would get more feed with BA than with VS?

Personally I cant see KL coming to DUB. They have been happy with the EI arrangement for years now so why upset the applecart?

I would love to see an EI service to SFO but given their complete unwillingness to take a punt on long haul, I think UA are the only ones to look at here. EI could have started SFO this year with the ending of the UA joint venture but took the safe option to increase their existing destinations!

One or two predictions of my own!!

DL to start a new long haul service to DUB. They are growing in SEA and or why not take some of the substantial ORD traffic to MSP or DTW??

LO to restart DUB services as the economies in both countries stabilize.

YYZ to become a year round destination (perhaps not daily during the winter) with the EI / AC agreement (joint venture between the two???)



Next Flights: EI DUB-LHR A320, BA LHR-SFO B744, UA SFO-LAS A320, BA LAS-LHR B744, EI LHR-DUB A320
User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1490 posts, RR: 3
Reply 128, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 9231 times:

Arthur Quinlan, the news reporter, who covered so many Shannon stories in its golden age for RTE has died aged 92.

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 129, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9160 times:

Quoting bestwestern (Reply 125):
EI to be in the hands of new foreign owners by end 2013

Yes certainly seems to be heading in that way .

Quoting bestwestern (Reply 125):
EK to go double daily, or announce A380 for 2014

Agree there too.

Quoting bestwestern (Reply 125):
BA to reduce frequencies to Ireland

They have already done it .

Quoting bestwestern (Reply 125):
Air Arabia to Dublin

Yes probably the most intetesting of the lot IMHO. I know someone who will be very happy with that.  


User currently offlinebestwestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 7302 posts, RR: 57
Reply 130, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9148 times:

Any reason to CO 757s were parked on the B pier today.? The departure screens had a flight to Washington at 3 and a Newark at 6.


The world is really getting smaller these days
User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4659 posts, RR: 23
Reply 131, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9127 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 122):
Ironically BA is getting my business at the moment. They just offer me more of what I need. 2 free checked bags ( 3 when Im in CE which is 90% of the time ) /free seat selection etc.. wish EI would offer the same to its GC members. Would have made a huge difference to me.

I have to say, I am the same way. I was all prepped and set to get my 2400 points to maintain my Gold Circle for another year, but then I magically popped up to BA Silver and so now I am flying them instead. Heading to Edinburgh in January and I used BA points plus pay and paid less for the trip than the direct EI service and that's flying DUB-LHR-EDI-LHR-DUB. I mean, I have lounges at all points, and it cost me nothing. Not to mention the baggage allowance and so on, which is very good as you said.

It will also be really handy for visiting family back in Australia - as last time I did it I had no lounges (and no shower) on the way. I'd probably consider going on the EI codeshare with Etihad, but you don't earn any points and don't have lounge access, so it's a no brainer as they say. Plus the BA points are much more valuable with so many more chances to redeem.



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineal2637 From Ireland, joined Oct 2006, 407 posts, RR: 3
Reply 132, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 9028 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 126):
It would be good to see KL coming to DUB ... but hopefully not via WX; that would be a total turnoff; they'd do better staying with EI.

I'd settle for anyway to get flying blue miles to Ireland. It really is a strange setup with KL/EI. The flight is not bookable under the KL number (only for connections), and even as a FB Gold, I get no benefits when travelling on the service (luggage, lounge, etc). The AMS-LCY-DUB run seems to be pulling a lot of the higher yielding passengers (a lot of companies in AMS are members of bluebiz, so only travel KL)

As it stands, KL, a major European airline, offer no direct service to anywhere in Ireland, not even on a codeshare (from AMS)


User currently offlineIRISH251 From Ireland, joined Nov 2004, 982 posts, RR: 4
Reply 133, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8852 times:

Quoting bestwestern (Reply 130):
Any reason to CO 757s were parked on the B pier today.? The departure screens had a flight to Washington at 3 and a Newark at 6.

N17122 was parked at stand 39 during the morning. It had arrived as UAL22 and departed this evening as the return UAL23 to EWR.
N17133 arrived in the early hours (0330) as UAL1749 from IAD but departed as UAL127 back to IAD. It used a Terminal 2 parking stand for the outbound flight.
N21108 is inbound as I type, on the delayed UAL126 from IAD. It is due to depart at 0300 as UAL1750 to IAD.


User currently offlineneutral From Ireland, joined Nov 2007, 309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 134, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8846 times:

Just to wish everyone in Irish aviation a very Merry Xmas and Happy new year in 2013 here's to more good news in 2013.

User currently offlineirishair98 From Ireland, joined Dec 2011, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 135, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8824 times:
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Quoting clydenairways (Reply 110):

A380 compatibility is being looked into already.

And where did you get this information from ?



Dhún Na Ngall Abú!
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 136, posted (1 year 12 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 8682 times:

No fly zone over Dublin Castle to be introduced :

The airspace around Dublin Castle will be a no-fly zone – with surface-to-air missiles and patrols by armed aircraft – to protect more than 15,000 delegates during Ireland's €60m Presidency of the European Union.

http://www.independent.ie/national-n...tle-for-eu-presidency-3334470.html


User currently offlineBrianDromey From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 3928 posts, RR: 9
Reply 137, posted (1 year 12 months 12 hours ago) and read 8466 times:

Quoting al2637 (Reply 132):
As it stands, KL, a major European airline, offer no direct service to anywhere in Ireland, not even on a codeshare (from AMS)

The question is, do KL need a direct service into DUB. Countless carriers have come and gone, really only LH to FRA and SK into CPH have really been consistent. LX have been at DUB for donkeys too, but only once daily. The future of BA is debatable, byond a token service which is poorly competitive against EI and FR to a lesser extent. EI and FR carve the market up. Currently KL gets all the feed without any fixed cost to them, other than a trade presence in Ireland, shared with AF, of course. Why trash yields, risk loosing a fortune and piss off a decent partner for no real reason? EI operate something like 5daily to AMS from DUB and between 10 and 14 weekly from ORK, doubt KL could compete and make money. The status quo offers them almost exactly what they need, without risk or cost. Corporate contracts can still connect on AF (or WX) via LCY or CDG, not 100% ideal, but AF/KL will get the cash in any case.

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 131):

For those of us based outside DUB, EI is the obvious choice. This might be to a lesser extent out of DUB, but even then it depends on your travel patterns. If most travel is Between Ireland and the UK or Ireland and Europe then EI is the obvious choice, unless you fancy connecting. I know the rewards are noting compared to BA, etc but having to deal with LHR on a weekly basis for connections might not be everyone's cup of tea. Clearly GC ain't gonna change any time soon, we've even making suggestions for years and EI are just not listening. At this stage I'm inclined to think GC, as it currently exists is the only thing that makes sense for EI and it ain't gonna change. No free baggage, no free cuppa. Just stock up in the lounge!



Next flights: MAN-ORK-LHR(EI)-MAN(BD); MAN-LHR(BD)-ORK (EI); DUB-ZRH-LAX (LX) LAX-YYZ (AC) YYZ-YHZ-LHR(AC)-DUB(BD)
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 138, posted (1 year 12 months 9 hours ago) and read 8324 times:

As is the tradition DAA announces the arrival of Santa  

User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 139, posted (1 year 12 months 8 hours ago) and read 8309 times:

Some interesting predictions there, Bestwestern:

Anyway, some predictions for 2013...

EI to be in the hands of new foreign owners by end 2013 (I agree)
FR to continue to downsize Irish operations - move head office over EI sale? (FR will only downsize if other carriers are also cutting. It exerts maximum pressure that way. Apparently, FR have also aquired a new HQ building near DUB)
EK to go double daily, or announce A380 for 2014 (Can definitely see this)
KL to announce their own metal to Ireland from AMS for 2014. WX perhaps? (I think we will see a change in DUBAMS)
Waterford and Sligo to close. (Agree with this)
IB to Exit Irish market, code share with EI. (IB go back to normal 1820 dep for summer - they did well last year, and I think would have pulled it already along with AMS, BER if they were not happy)
SK to exit or downsize in the Irish market. (Reckon SK are fine - DY off CPH helps, FR are the ones suffering on Stockholm)
Finnair to return to Dublin to feed Asian hub. (Yes, agree)
EI to announce Canada for 2014 (agree)
LH to add frequency to FRA, and announce proper MUC schedule for 2014 (agree!)
EI to code share with VS to Ireland from the UK and the US. (agree again!)
BA to reduce frequencies to Ireland (happened already!)
Air Arabia to Dublin (not sure, buty hoping you know something I dont!)
Air Berlin to Dublin (agree with this also)

Finally, happy Christmas to everyone. Hope it's a great one, and that 2013 brings yet more recovery (stability, millions of jobs etc etc   )



Flown EI,FR,RE,EIR,VE,SI,TLA,BA,BE,BD,VX,MON,AF,YS,WX,KL,SK,LH,OK,OS,LX,IB,LTU,HLX,4U,SU,CO,DL,UA,AC,PR,MH,SQ,QF, EY, EK
User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 140, posted (1 year 12 months 7 hours ago) and read 8218 times:

It appears reports of the death of DY's DUBCPH service were somewhat premature - the route is back in booking systems again - so along with the new HEL service, we see a healthy increase from DY for 2013.


Flown EI,FR,RE,EIR,VE,SI,TLA,BA,BE,BD,VX,MON,AF,YS,WX,KL,SK,LH,OK,OS,LX,IB,LTU,HLX,4U,SU,CO,DL,UA,AC,PR,MH,SQ,QF, EY, EK
User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Reply 141, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 7917 times:

A very happy Christmas to all participants in the Irish aviation threads; hope you and your families have a very pleasant, relaxing day!

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 142, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7865 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 141):

The same to you . Wishing all Irish Anetters a great day with their Families. No snow sadly but you cant have everything  


User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1490 posts, RR: 3
Reply 143, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7878 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 138):
As is the tradition DAA announces the arrival of Santa

Dont know if you noticed but his return sector was also shown as "cancelled".

Perhaps a good omen for Christmas and the New Year. Best wishes to all, especially the reluctant emigrants here and abroad.


User currently offlinePhen From Ireland, joined Oct 2007, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 144, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7562 times:

Happy Christmas and new year to all on the thread, hopefully 2013 will be a prosperous one...

I was just browsing through youtube, as you do on a Christmas Day with nothing worth watching on TV, and came across this video of EI-ORD (god rest her   ) at DUB. Rather interestingly it shows 2 FR 738s at Pier E, one of which has a jetbridge attached! Now there was a thread a while back about FR and jetbridges and how rare it was to see Ryanair using them. I believe someone said they once saw FR using one at BCN but I had no idea they had used them at DUB? EI-ORD left the fleet at the start of 2011 so this video is from around the time when T2 was opening. Can anybody explain why FR and Monarch for that matter would have been using T2? I presume it was simply testing of the new facility? Curious why FR would partake given the amount of noise and protest MO'L makes about it being a white elephant...and surely Pier D wasn't full..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neD7Q...GQ&feature=player_detailpage#t=85s


User currently offlineshamrock321 From Ireland, joined May 2008, 1612 posts, RR: 1
Reply 145, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 7533 times:

I believe this was during the EI crew work to rule, they got some other airlines to operate as full a schedule as possible.

User currently offlineteahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5310 posts, RR: 61
Reply 146, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 7462 times:

Is there any Star Alliance lounge in Dublin airport usable by *Gold members these days?


Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 147, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7444 times:

Quoting teahan (Reply 146):
Is there any Star Alliance lounge in Dublin airport usable by *Gold members these days?

Depending on your Airline the old EI GC lounge in Pier B is now a temporary lounge.

http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-..._Passenger_Lounge_Opens_In_T1.aspx


User currently offlineteahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5310 posts, RR: 61
Reply 148, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 7349 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 147):

Depending on your Airline the old EI GC lounge in Pier B is now a temporary lounge.

http://www.dublinairport.com/gns/at-..._Passenger_Lounge_Opens_In_T1.aspx

Thanks, OA260. Does a *Gold passenger flying Lufthansa Y qualify to use a contract lounge? I assumed not, just checked Lufthansa's and it seems to say yes.



Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 149, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 7320 times:

Quoting teahan (Reply 148):
Does a *Gold passenger flying Lufthansa Y qualify to use a contract lounge? I assumed not, just checked Lufthansa's and it seems to say yes.

I would say yes due to the fact its *Gold you have and it says ''and other qualifying passengers''.


User currently offlinePhen From Ireland, joined Oct 2007, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 150, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 7263 times:

Quoting shamrock321 (Reply 145):

Thanks Shamrock, that makes sense. I bet it was strange for the passengers and crew to be boarding an FR aircraft like that!


User currently offlineteahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5310 posts, RR: 61
Reply 151, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 7200 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 149):
I would say yes due to the fact its *Gold you have and it says ''and other qualifying passengers''.

Thanks, I shall find out on Friday.  



Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 152, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 6964 times:

Quoting teahan (Reply 151):

Your good to go with *G on LH . Was in the lounge this morning. The lounge is your normal DAA affair in terms of offerings. Not bad and plenty of space and power sockets/free wifi etc...

http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/D3D773E1-E4B1-493C-9067-DAA2BC383EE8-9302-0000045323FA5E01.jpg
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http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/8E2F0302-3E46-4A72-A20A-76B3AC6DEDD3-9302-000004532FAA32C8.jpg
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http://i955.photobucket.com/albums/ae40/PhilipOA260/B9764287-CC6D-40CD-AD9A-3D1A95042F7E-9302-000004533DFD0550.jpg
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On another note the lines were massive at EI T2 today. EI staff running down the lines looking for passengers whose flights were closing .



User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4659 posts, RR: 23
Reply 153, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6680 times:

Quoting OA260 (Reply 152):
Was in the lounge this morning. The lounge is your normal DAA affair in terms of offerings. Not bad and plenty of space and power sockets/free wifi etc...

It still looks better than the T2 DAA lounge, which I used before the Aer Lingus lounge had opened. I thought it was particularly boring and unfortunately designed. The ex-Aer Lingus Lounge in T1 as the new DAA lounge is actually nicer than the T2 DAA lounge in my opinion.



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 154, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6662 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 153):
It still looks better than the T2 DAA lounge, which I used before the Aer Lingus lounge had opened. I thought it was particularly boring and unfortunately designed. The ex-Aer Lingus Lounge in T1 as the new DAA lounge is actually nicer than the T2 DAA lounge in my opinion.

The DAA really, really do not do business lounges at all well. There seems to be zero appreciation for developments in lounge design and what customers now expect from a decent lounge. That applies across the 3 state airports - they have never really done a good job at this. Let's hope the new "super dooper, all bells and whistles" lounge in T1 changes that - it will have to if they dont want every new airline in Dublin basically demanding to use T2.



Flown EI,FR,RE,EIR,VE,SI,TLA,BA,BE,BD,VX,MON,AF,YS,WX,KL,SK,LH,OK,OS,LX,IB,LTU,HLX,4U,SU,CO,DL,UA,AC,PR,MH,SQ,QF, EY, EK
User currently offlineshamrock350 From Ireland, joined Mar 2005, 6372 posts, RR: 14
Reply 155, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 6573 times:

The DAA lounge in T2 is very bland, I seem to remember a lot of white walls, standard seating and a limited amount of snacks. The temporary lounge in T1 looks better mainly because it looks a little cosier to me, maybe the only benefit of having a low ceiling! That horrid green carpet from Aer Lingus clashes with the new seating colours but that can be forgiven as it's only a temporary solution. Hopefully the new lounge is something more appealing.

Quoting OA260 (Reply 152):
On another note the lines were massive at EI T2 today. EI staff running down the lines looking for passengers whose flights were closing .

Nice to see things so busy but that does look chaotic, I can understand lots of families choosing not to check in online and needing 2/3 bags to be checked in but there were similar scenes during the summer. I hope Aer Lingus take the upcoming quieter months to figure out a better system as staff running down queues for passengers on closing flights is unacceptable.

I see they're advertising the pre-order meals as well, seems a bit pointless to do that at the airport as it's too late by then! A lot of airlines are guilty of this actually.


User currently offlineshamrock604 From Ireland, joined Sep 2007, 4225 posts, RR: 12
Reply 156, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 6561 times:

Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 155):
Nice to see things so busy but that does look chaotic, I can understand lots of families choosing not to check in online and needing 2/3 bags to be checked in but there were similar scenes during the summer. I hope Aer Lingus take the upcoming quieter months to figure out a better system as staff running down queues for passengers on closing flights is unacceptable.

The simple fact is EI dont have enough check in desks in T2 for peak hours. 28 is less than they had back at T1.



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User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 157, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6226 times:

Quoting ClassicLover (Reply 153):

Yes I agree its still more like the GC lounge than a DAA lounge. Even has the glass poetry wall  
Quoting shamrock350 (Reply 155):

Indeed although I suspect its to highlight it for future travel or their return.


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 3003 posts, RR: 0
Reply 158, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5994 times:

Today's FR flight from LTN to KIR was diverted to SNN after attempting to land in strong crosswinds. The return sector was subsequently cancelled after initial plans to bus passengers from KIR to SNN.


Shannon-Chicago
User currently offlineal2637 From Ireland, joined Oct 2006, 407 posts, RR: 3
Reply 159, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5980 times:

On the subject of DUB lounges, any idea what WX/AF use for Flying Blue members?

User currently offlineJambost From Ireland, joined Jun 2010, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 160, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5812 times:

About 6 U2 aircraft are strangely hanging around BFS, winds must be causing some havoc. EI and BA having no trouble at BHD, anyone got any inside info?

Source Flight radar 24

Update, most have now landed, busy pile up in poor conditions I imagine was the problem.

[Edited 2012-12-28 13:16:41]


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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12593 posts, RR: 34
Reply 161, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5766 times:

I see 16 is in use at DUB this evening; just watching FR 45 do a pretty long approach, heading as far north as Nobber and turning finals near Ardee*

*(and seems to have gone around again!)

I'm heading out in the morning to the airport; the combination of good light and strong winds should make for interesting photography!

[Edited 2012-12-28 13:25:13]

[Edited 2012-12-28 13:26:57]

User currently offlineOA260 From Ireland, joined Nov 2006, 27305 posts, RR: 60
Reply 162, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5672 times:

Quoting al2637 (Reply 159):

Anna Livia which is still open opposite the old BA / BMI lounge.


User currently offlineEIRules From Ireland, joined Aug 2007, 834 posts, RR: 10
Reply 163, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 5377 times:

Hey all...

Looking for a bit of advice. Im planning a trip to New York in November and gonna treat myself to Business. So here is the question...

I have enough miles to buy an economy ticket and upgrade with BA but even still its gonna cost some €550+ and have to connect through LHR. EI direct are €1450, UA €1900 and DL € 1950. Im pretty sure DL and UA will have sales on, based on last year will be around the €1600 mark. The other option is VS which is currently the most expensive at €2200 but again this may come down

I have flown UA and BA in Business and personally preferred UA but maybe just had a so-so BA experience. What Im asking is, everything being equal which would everyone choose? Direct is obviously preferable (I have rulled out AA since they are sh*t) but is the possible premium for direct worth it? I know BA and UA have flat beds where EI dont.

Let me know what ye think....



Next Flights: EI DUB-LHR A320, BA LHR-SFO B744, UA SFO-LAS A320, BA LAS-LHR B744, EI LHR-DUB A320
User currently offlineClassicLover From Ireland, joined Mar 2004, 4659 posts, RR: 23
Reply 164, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 5348 times:

Quoting EIRules (Reply 163):
I have enough miles to buy an economy ticket and upgrade with BA but even still its gonna cost some €550+ and have to connect through LHR. EI direct are €1450, UA €1900 and DL € 1950. Im pretty sure DL and UA will have sales on, based on last year will be around the €1600 mark. The other option is VS which is currently the most expensive at €2200 but again this may come down

If you haven't flown EI in Business before, you should try it - especially with a name like EIRules   I was pleasantly surprised by how good the catering and service were on the route - and you only really use the bed for perhaps 4 hours on the return after you've eaten and so on, so lie flat vs not lie flat is no real issue - plus the duvet is quite nice. I didn't think the inflight entertainment was all that though. In addition, you can choose whether to get BA Executive Club miles or Gold Circle points so you don't lose out from that perspective. A return to New York gives you 2000 GC points, leaving 400 to make it to GC level (4 x DUB-LHR for example).

That said, BA blows EI out of the water from a seating perspective. The BA catering in the past year or so has really improved leaps and bounds - the meals are now superb, plus they have the Club Kitchen so you can get yourself snacks and so on in flight. Not that it matters, they'll get you drunk if you want to arrive legless! In flight entertainment on BA is also much more extensive - lots more to choose from. Also, with BA you could seat yourself in the Upper Deck on the 747 if you choose those services, and the Upper Deck beats anything in my opinion. I don't see why going via LHR would be an issue since you'd have Galleries lounge access at either end as well - and they are great lounges. I don't find using the transfer bus at Heathrow to be that big a deal.

I have no experience with DL and UA at all - never flown DL and haven't flown UA since 1991.

I don't see why you would avoid AA as they have a competitive enough product nowadays and you'll get your BA frequent flyer miles and appropriate status miles and so on since they're now allowed to cooperate. Actually, you could select to use BA one way and AA the other way on the BA web site (still going through London), but I am not sure if you can upgrade the AA with Avios.

All things being equal - I'd choose BA for the overall quality of the whole experience.

However, I would choose EI if you wanted to try something new - I enjoyed flying J with them very much. It's just that they're not at the same level as the larger carriers.

Do let us know what you decided to do - and if you've any questions, ask away  



I do quite enjoy a spot of flying - more so when it's not in Economy!
User currently offlineIre2008 From Ireland, joined Mar 2008, 117 posts, RR: 0
Reply 165, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 5006 times:

Hi all,

I dont really post on here much, but do read here all the time. Jus quick question. Im going to NY tomorrow with EI and AA via LHR. Should I try get a seat at the rear of EI for bus transfer or? And also there are two of us travelling and I really want a two seater on AA but at the moment there are only two seats in the middle at the back of the plane. Does anybody know if more seats get released at online check in or anything, specifically referring to the "prefered seats". Just really would love two seats together at a window lol

Thanks

Kevin

[Edited 2012-12-30 03:34:25]

User currently offlinedstc47 From Ireland, joined Sep 1999, 1490 posts, RR: 3
Reply 166, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 4896 times:

Quoting Ire2008 (Reply 165):
Should I try get a seat at the rear of EI for bus transfer or? And also there are two of us travelling and I really want a two seater on AA but at the moment there are only two seats in the middle at the back of the plane.

The transfer bus will wait, even if you are up the front.
Make it known to crew but there are usually very many transfer passengers. However it can take time getting down the plane, due to slow moving traffic trying to find bags etc.

No specific information re seats on AA but I would doubt that at this time of year many free seats would surface.
Enjoy your trip.