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787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 12  
User currently offlineSA7700 From South Africa, joined Dec 2003, 3431 posts, RR: 26
Posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 57574 times:
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This is a continuation thread of part 11 which can be accessed by following link: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 11

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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5774 posts, RR: 47
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 57663 times:

Boeing is sending up ZA289 on another test flight today. I wonder if this one can be delivered by the end of next week?

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE289



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User currently offlinesweair From Sweden, joined Nov 2011, 1824 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 57631 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 1):

When did it have its B1? Must have been flawless?


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7654 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 57641 times:

Copied and pasted United787's last post about current 787 deliveries.

Please note again this is his work, not mine, i'm posting this for references purposes only. Please update the list if anything was missed.


DELIVERED TO DATE: 38 Aircraft to 8 Airlines

DELIVERIES PRIOR TO NOVEMBER
NH-16; JL-6; AI-3; ET-3; LA-2; UA–2; QR-1

NOVEMBER DELIVERIES TO DATE
L/N 64 - A7-BCL – 11/06/2012- QR #2
L/N 61 - SP-LRA - 11/09/2012 - LO #1
L/N 44 - ET-AOP - 11/19/2012 - ET #4
L/N 57 - A7-BCA – 11/20/2012 - QR #3
L/N 50 - N20902 - 11/20/2012 - UA #3

NEXT IN LINE FOR DELIVERY Tentative - Subject to Change
L/N 80 - CC-BBC - xx/xx/2012 - LA #3
L/N 55 - N26905 – 12/xx/2012 - UA #4
L/N 62 - A7-BCK - 12/xx/2012 - QR #4 Awaiting first flight
L/N 59 - JA817A - 12/xx/2012 - NH #17 Awaiting first flight
L/N 83 - JA818A - 12/xx/2012 - NH #18 Awaiting first flight
L/N 45 - N26901 – 12/xx/2012 – UA #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 82 - A7-BCC – 12/xx/2012 - QR #5 Awaiting first flight
L/N 78 - SP-LRB – 1/xx/2013 - LO #2 Awaiting first flight
L/N 52 - N26903 – 1/xx/2013 – UA #6 Awaiting first flight
L/N 86 – SP-LRC – 1/xx/2013 – LO #3 Awaiting first flight

In addition, there are three airlines that aren’t accepting deliveries of completed aircraft due to financing or political/certification issues: 4 for AI; 2 for CZ; & 2 for HU.



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5774 posts, RR: 47
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 57613 times:

Quoting sweair (Reply 2):
When did it have its B1? Must have been flawless?

B-1 was done on 11/21/12.

ZA183 just copied clearance to Moses Lake for their B-1 flgiht test. Hopefully they'll be on the move and that'll be Boeing's 6 787 B-1 in one week.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE183

[Edited 2012-12-07 12:52:20]


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User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5532 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 57572 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 4):
ZA183 just copied clearance to Moses Lake for their B-1 flgiht test. Hopefully they'll be on the move and that'll be Boeing's 6 787 B-1 in one week.

How's the weather in Everett? Looking out my office window in downtown Seattle, ceilings look *very* low...


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5774 posts, RR: 47
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 57556 times:

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 5):
How's the weather in Everett? Looking out my office window in downtown Seattle, ceilings look *very* low...

Looking at teh Everett web cam, it seems that there is some clearing tothe north of the airfield, ceilings are about 2200 ft so abovethe minimums needed for a B-1 flight.



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User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12482 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 57468 times:

Five a month isn't too bad; what is the combined total of production from both sites, Seattle and Charleston? How long does Boeing expect it to take before both sites reach optimum/maximum production?

User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31062 posts, RR: 87
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 57437 times:
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Quoting kaitak (Reply 7):
Five a month isn't too bad; what is the combined total of production from both sites, Seattle and Charleston?

4 from Everett and 1 from Charleston.

Quoting kaitak (Reply 7):
How long does Boeing expect it to take before both sites reach optimum/maximum production?

Still on track for 10 by the end of next year - I believe they're planning 7 a month from Everett (main + surge) and 3 a month from Charleston.


The above figures would not include what they can run through EMC as they work on the existing stock.


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5774 posts, RR: 47
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 57403 times:

Quoting kaitak (Reply 7):
Five a month isn't too bad; what is the combined total of production from both sites, Seattle and Charleston? How long does Boeing expect it to take before both sites reach optimum/maximum production?

Currently Everett is at 4/month and Charleston is at 1/month.

It is to go up to 7/month by middle of next year but I don't know the split. I am willing to bet that by mid-lae summer Everett will be at 5/month and Charleston will be at 2/month.



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User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2716 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 57341 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 3):
Copied and pasted United787's last post about current 787 deliveries.

Please note again this is his work, not mine, i'm posting this for references purposes only. Please update the list if anything was missed.



Thanks PHX787... I was hoping the LA (L/N 80) aircraft would be delivered by now... but here is the updated list...I have taken some liberties in guessing December deliveries. For example, the LO #2 (L/N 78) I show as January since someone had stated LOT isn't expecting it until then...this could be ready this month. I was surprised that for UA, L/N 52 flew before L/N 45, so I switched those and others around to reflect their apparent progress based on their first flights...

As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft in production, I recommend going to http://nyc787.blogspot.com/

DELIVERED TO DATE: 38 Aircraft to 8 Airlines

DELIVERIES PRIOR TO DECEMBER
NH-16; JL-6; ET-4; AI-3; UA–3; QR-3; LA-2; LO-1

NO DELIVERIES IN DECEMBER TO DATE But a plethora on the horizon!          

NEXT IN LINE FOR DELIVERY Tentative - Subject to Change
L/N 80 - CC-BBC - 12/xx/2012 - LA #3
L/N 55 - N26905 – 12/xx/2012 - UA #4
L/N 62 - A7-BCK - 12/xx/2012 - QR #4
L/N 59 - JA817A - 12/xx/2012 - NH #17
L/N 52 - N26903 – 12/xx/2012 – UA #5
L/N 83 - JA818A - 12/xx/2012 - NH #18
L/N 82 - A7-BCC – 12/xx/2012 - QR #5
L/N 84 – JA829A – 12/xx/2012 – JL #7
L/N 78 - SP-LRB – 1/xx/2013 - LO #2
L/N 45 - N26901 – 1/xx/2013 – UA #6 Awaiting first flight
L/N 86 – SP-LRC – 1/xx/2013 – LO #3 Awaiting first flight

In addition, there are three airlines that aren’t accepting deliveries of completed aircraft due to financing or political/certification issues: 4 for AI; 2 for CZ; & 2 for HU.


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5774 posts, RR: 47
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 57159 times:

Looks like Boeing delivered LAN's 3 787 today as it's flying out tonight:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/LAN1329

Boeing just confirmed to me that they delivered LAN's 3rd 787 today.

[Edited 2012-12-07 15:46:36]


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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8824 posts, RR: 5
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 57127 times:
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Quoting NYC777 (Reply 11):

Looks like Boeing delivered LAN's 3 787 today as it's flying out tonight:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/LAN1329

Fantastic! Looking forward to flying on CC-BBC soon!  


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5774 posts, RR: 47
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 56960 times:

I put up a second blog post regarding projected 787 delivery dates in December.


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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6398 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 56907 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 11):
Boeing just confirmed to me that they delivered LAN's 3rd 787 today.

This one was sure a delayliner. Any word on what held up CC-BBC? If things had gone smoothly, it probably would have been out the door Nov. 30...



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User currently onlineual747-600 From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 585 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 56738 times:

Looks like Boeing needs to deliver another Qatar 787 as LN57 ZA460 38319 A7-BCA Qatar Airways is on the way to Doha. Couldn't post the flightaware link as something is messed up on their site tonight..


QTR3787 B788 So California Logistics (KVCV) Doha Int'l (OTBD / DOH) Fri 06:31PM PST Sat 08:03PM AST 14:38

UAL747-600

[Edited 2012-12-07 20:44:03]

User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8824 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 56707 times:
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Quoting ual747-600 (Reply 15):
Looks like Boeing needs to deliver another Qatat 787 as LN57 ZA460 38319 A7-BCA Qatar Airways is on the way to Doha. Couldn't post the flightaware link as something is messed up on their site tonight..


QTR3787 B788 So California Logistics (KVCV) Doha Int'l (OTBD / DOH) Fri 06:31PM PST Sat 08:03PM AST 14:38

Here is the link:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR3787


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5774 posts, RR: 47
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 55855 times:

ZA462 will be the next one to deliver to Qatar Airways.


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5774 posts, RR: 47
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 54871 times:

ZA460 spent about 2 weeks in VCV for the IFE work so if anymore '87s head there that's the max time that they would spend there.


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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1603 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks ago) and read 54758 times:

Looks like LOT ZA271 (78) is scheduled for a C-1 later today.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE271/history


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5774 posts, RR: 47
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 53201 times:

Got infor that ZA271 (LN 78, SP-LRB) will have it's delivery around Jan. 4th) Won't be delivered this month.


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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1603 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 53068 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 20):
Got infor that ZA271 (LN 78, SP-LRB) will have it's delivery around Jan. 4th) Won't be delivered this month.

If that's the delivery flight you're talking about the money could very well change hands this year.


User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5774 posts, RR: 47
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 52609 times:

Contractual delivery (money changing hands) of ZA271 not until January 2013.


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User currently offline7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1603 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 52153 times:

Looks like UAL ZA285 (45) has a B-1 scheduled for today. Things go well and we may be able to add it to the year end total.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE285


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2716 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 51974 times:

Ironic, Boeing can deliver more 787s than customers will take:

AI - Want them but can't afford them
CZ and HU - Want them but China won't let them have them yet
QR - Will only take one at time for IFE installation
LO - Looks like one will be ready soon but they are expecting it in January and may not want it early
UA - Was only expecting 5 this year and may not want the 6th early

If the projection was 35-42 787s this year (source: NYC777), it seems like there may have been a chance they could have hit 53!


25 NYC777 : UAL has said in SEC filings that they are expecting to take delivery of 5 787s by the end of the year. They have 3 so far and I expect two more delive
26 NYC777 : Weather looks terrible at Everett, doubt that ZA285 will fly today.
27 Post contains links JoeCanuck : Now that it's getting time for customers to lay out the big cash, they might not want to rush into things. It's refreshing to see that fewer holdups
28 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : LOT ZA271 (78) out on a C-2. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE271
29 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : UAL ZA287 (52) and JAL ZA183 (84) away on their C-1's (?). http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE287 http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE183
30 7BOEING7 : We'll make that a B-2 on JAL.
31 KELPkid : If, as Suresh says, it definitely won't be delivered until after Jan. 1st, why would the customer be flying it around this early?
32 seabosdca : Most likely the LOT crew wants to spend the holidays in Warsaw rather than Everett.
33 7BOEING7 : Can't say for sure, but this way everything can be completed except the money changing hands and all of the LOT personnel can go home for the holiday
34 NYC777 : I was listening to the ATC for BOE271 this morning as it left on the test flight. It wasn't a LOT crew at the controls. It was a Boeing crew.[Edited 2
35 7BOEING7 : During a customer flight the Boeing captain sitting in the right seat makes all of the radio calls so I don't understand how you determined it was no
36 Post contains links PHX787 : http://youtu.be/euGoiijBtV8 Anyone see this previously? JA656J Doraemon Jet....was this one delivered in this livery or not?
37 Post contains images Stitch : That's a 767-300ER, not a 787-8. And no, she was not delivered in that livery. [Edited 2012-12-12 16:17:01]
38 Post contains images PHX787 : Oh wow my mistake.....loooooong morning with no sleep Ok back on topic- any more special liveries planned for 787s or are we pretty much done with th
39 flood : Came across this tweet this morning by Max K-J of Flightglobal: "Qatar" very disappointed" with Boeing as 3rd #B787 diverted on del flight due to tech
40 petera380 : Reportedly the same issue that caused the UA diversion a coupleof weeks ago.
41 flood : Thanks, I see there's already separate thread on the issue.
42 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : UAL ZA285 (45) scheduled for its B-1 again today if the wx doesn't keep them on the ground again. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE285 ANA ZA510
43 seabosdca : That frame is snakebit. By my count this is the fourth attempt at a B-1, and it doesn't look any more promising today than it has the last three time
44 7BOEING7 : Wx is good to go right now, they need to get airborne.
45 817Dreamliiner : ZA235 is now in the air, take off around 1635Z, Tweeted by Matt Cawby.
46 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : Looks like the third C-1 of the day is airborne QTR ZA464 (82). That's 4 787's, 2 777's and 1 747 so far today--Xmas rush--busy, busy,busy!!!! http://
47 United787 : I assume that you mean ZA285? Aside from the AI, HU and CZ aircraft, this may be one of the last change and incorporation planes for a while. This an
48 817Dreamliiner : Yes I did, sorry for the typo!
49 Post contains links KarelXWB : Two more deliveries for Qatar are expected on December 19th (ZA462 and ZA464). http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...with-same-fault-as-united-jet.ht
50 Post contains images sweair : Hercule Poirot It´s scary how similar he looks, minus the mustache.. If they will take 2 more it cant be that much of a problem?
51 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : UAL ZA287 (52) up and down on its C-2 earlier and QTR ZA462 (82) out on its C-1. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE287 http://flightaware.com/live
52 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : UAL ZA289 (55) ? delivery flight later today. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL6857.
53 Post contains images KELPkid : Wow, they're even delivering it to a non-pre merger Contintental hub
54 aeroblogger : Some good news for a change: AI's 4th delivery is slated for the end of the month.
55 Post contains images PHX787 : Looks like two of the three Airlines That Shall Not Be Named are getting their delivery act together Wonder if it's going into immediate service to I
56 NYC777 : Just one? there are 4 ready on the CHS flightline, another 2 that is in production and 5 that are undergoing change incorporation or will under go ch
57 ordramper98 : This is the second 787 delivered to LAX, after the first two went to Houston.
58 NYC777 : Getting word that LOT's second 787 should be delivered around middle of next week with delivery towards the end of the week. That was fast but they di
59 Post contains images Aircellist : I guess the word "flight" is missing from the second half of that sentence
60 Post contains links United787 : As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft
61 PHX787 : Ok I have a throbbing question which probably has been answered but I didn't catch up on- Are these the a/c sitting on the PAE runway, along with tho
62 Post contains links United787 : I am not sure if this answers your questions but: The 4 AI birds are at CHC 2 of the HU birds are at PAE (South Ramp) 1 of the HU birds is at CHC The
63 PHX787 : Another stupid question- what does Change Incorporation entail?
64 Stitch : Those airframes were completed before Boeing received the Type Certificate for the 787, so any differences on those planes needs to be addressed to b
65 7BOEING7 : Both ANA ZA510 (59) and QTR ZA462 (62) are out on C-2's today--should be easily ready before Xmas. Only ANA ZA512 (83) and UAL ZA285 (45) left to star
66 aklrno : I'm on my way to New Zealand now. I'll check out those 787's, unless they are actually at CHS.
67 BlueSky1976 : I've got information that apparently the delivery flight crew is leaving for Seattle this Tuesday and that SP-LRB is expected to arrive at Warsaw on 2
68 7BOEING7 : Looks like QTR ZA464 (82) will fly a C-2 later today.
69 hkcanadaexpat : With 2012 coming to an end, i thought i would open the debate on volume/customers for 2013. Based on 5/month now, increasing to 7/month mid year and t
70 starrion : In other news, according to All Things, one of the air india frames was pulled into the EMC... Hopefully AI will have it's finances figured out before
71 Capt747ret : We have seen 4 of the AI frames flown in the past week or so. AI has 3 frames that are ready for delivery and now B is flying LN72 while moving anothe
72 aeroblogger : When is VT-ANN expected to be ready for delivery? It looks like that frame might be the next AI delivery.
73 Post contains images PHX787 : First, a happy 9 year joining day anniversary is an order for SA7700 Second: Is this one of the ones still at CHS?
74 aeroblogger : I have no idea.
75 NYC777 : Don't expect it to be delviered until early February at the earliest. I have updated my 787 tables to reflect the firing order for LN 116 to LN 130 a
76 Post contains images KELPkid : Maybe we should start a countdown to PAE getting runway 11/29 back thread
77 KarelXWB : An Air India spokesman said earlier that the company would receive a total of 7 787 aircraft in the fiscal year of 2012 (which ends on 31 March 2013)
78 United787 : I hate to be such a Debbie Downer... I know AI wants the planes but have they secured financing?
79 BlueSky1976 : SP-LRB is scheduled to depart for Warsaw tomorrow (20.12.2012) at 18:00 local time.
80 NYC777 : Let's hope the runaways are cleared by then.
81 PA515 : The spreadsheet makes no reference to LN 126 going to Air New Zealand. Will the first 789 for Air New Zealand be one of the other test aircraft? PA51
82 starrion : Does that mean that contractual delivery has already taken place?
83 hkcanadaexpat : The first 789 delivery to ANZ will be LN004. ZB 001--003 will be 3 test flight aircraft that MAY eventually be reassigned to customers should they sti
84 Stitch : I'm sure they have homes lined up for them. Unlike the first three 787-8 test frames, these should be at spec (or better) and should have little to n
85 tdscanuck : They're already assigned to customers. As were ZA001-ZA006...they only ended up stuck with Boeing *after* the whole initial production mess. ZA002 wa
86 KarelXWB : Removing all the test equipment takes a while, the 4th 787-9 should be the first one to get delivered.
87 ER757 : Hi Tom, I may be a little fuzzy on this, my memory ain't what it used to be when I had a lot less gray hair, but didn't ANA agree to that livery only
88 Post contains links KarelXWB : See http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...exclusive-ana-to-take-most-of.html "Boeing also confirms that the first six test flight aircraft, once des
89 N14AZ : Waow, I wasn't aware that we will see the first 789 next year. What's the time schedule for the first prototype?
90 Post contains links tdscanuck : As I understand it, that was the agreement reached after Boeing decided not to sell the aircraft. It was originally (many years ago) actually suppose
91 Post contains links and images ferpe : Boeing have now released a 787 ACAP 10-2012 which lists the OEWs and also gives a payload-range chart. In the end it show that the 12-2011 ACAP was co
92 klkla : This should be interesting. Does this mean the 789 and 359 will be doing their test flights at the same time? Should be some interesting A vs. B thre
93 dynamicsguy : Others have already chimed in about other aspects, but also note that the line numbers are shared between the 787 models, rather than starting from 1
94 BlueSky1976 : As far as I understand, it's possible, though I do not have that information.
95 Post contains links KarelXWB : The Hainan 787 (B-2728) is back on the flightline. http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/8290071724/in/photostream
96 aeroblogger : The next AI delivery is in front of CHS delivery center. The aircraft is expected to enter service on 3JAN
97 NYC777 : Boeing delivered 787s to Qatar and Air India today.
98 Post contains links NYC777 : Boeing has confirmed to me that they have delivered 787s to Qatar and LOT but hasn't confirmed Air India. There is flight plan filed for AI 170 from C
99 starrion : Did Qatar take one or both? Four deliveries in two days would be a nice xmas present.
100 NYC777 : They took one. Three deliveries today including Air India.
101 Stitch : So that puts us at 40 (to date) for 2012?
102 tarheelwings : Can you confirm which line #s were taken? Thanks.
103 KarelXWB : Correct.
104 Post contains links KarelXWB : Delivery flights: Qatar PAE-VCV http://flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR999 Air India CHS-FRA http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AIC170[Edited 2012-12-2
105 Post contains links KarelXWB : The delivered Air India bird seems to be LN60 / ZA239 / VT-ANK. http://twitter.com/Kearney_Brendan/status/281857790115467264
106 PHX787 : Incredible! Of course many of these airframes were completed and ready to be delivered prior to 2012, right?
107 NYC777 : The Air India is ZA239. LOT is ZA271. I'm still trying to figure out which was delivered to Qatar but I suspect that it's ZA462.
108 NYC777 : Boeing just confirmed to me that they delivered a 787 each to ANA and Japan Airlines today.
109 817Dreamliiner : Great! Nice to see the 787 deliveries coming along nicely.
110 NYC777 : Boeing will have delivered 5 787s today, 7 in December and 42 in 2012 thus far. I don't think they're done for the month.
111 7BOEING7 : 2 UAL, 1 ANA, 1 QTR to go unless something unexpected pops up to add to the total.
112 KarelXWB : UA would receive 5 787 aircraft in 2012 and they have already 4 of them. The 6th one (ZA285) is for next year.
113 NYC777 : That's correct, UAL stated in their regulatory filings that they take 5 787s by the end of the year.
114 United787 : My head is spinning! Merry Christmas Boeing! I know it was reported here that QR would be taking two at this time. Given that they only delivered one
115 aeroblogger : VT-ANK was delivered today. VT-ANL will be taken early next month.
116 7BOEING7 : Both the airplanes have completed their customer flights (+/-) and I'm not so sure "regulatory filings" or when VCV will be available for mod work wi
117 NYC777 : Ok so make that 6 as Boeing delivered a 787 to United
118 starrion : Now they're just showing off. The Boeing lawyers are going to have a critical case of writer's cramp.
119 FriendlySkies : Does anyone know how many UA will take next year? I think they will have 5 left in the pmCO order for 11 788, I'd imagine they may take all of those
120 Post contains images KELPkid : Why was poor VT-ANJ (who was ready earlier than ANK) passed up?
121 aeroblogger : I'm not sure... I'd speculate that since the early build CHS frames have been having so many issues, AI wanted to take a later frame which has more f
122 dynamicsguy : @BoeingAirplanes tweeted:
123 Post contains images WarpSpeed : A Boeing Merry Christmas to all!
124 ZKOKQ : Wow. Thats unbelievable. to deliver 6 planes in 14hrs is great news! Lets hope the ramp up next year is smooth and we start seeing more of these great
125 Dan23 : Very impressive days work by the delivery team. The bank balance will have got a very nice boost. 43 for the year (so far) is a good result after what
126 JoeCanuck : Deliveries, (or at least production), could take a hit if Boeing and SPEEA can't agree on a contract.
127 ZKOKQ : What was this years plan?
128 dynamicsguy : The guidance was between 70 and 85 deliveries of 787s and 747-8s combined, with approximately half of each. A lot of people have interpreted this as
129 Post contains images PHX787 : Wow 6 deliveries in 24 hours.....I remember when Boeing was struggling to get 6 of them delivered within a period of 2 months
130 JoeCanuck : Isn't it refreshing that 787 deliveries are getting delivered with what is becoming almost boring regularity?
131 Post contains images Aircellist : You call 6 deliveries in 14 hours "boring regularity?
132 Post contains links United787 : As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft
133 JoeCanuck : Hopefully, soon it will be.
134 Post contains links seabosdca : Sigh. Aviation Week is reporting that CAAC will likely not issue a 787 type certificate until March. http://www.aviationweek.com/Article....l/avd_12_1
135 ER757 : And to six different airlines to boot. Not bad, I'd say.
136 Post contains links NYC777 : Boeing is not done with deliveries, another 787 for Qatar scheduled to leave for VCV tonight http://flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR998
137 JoeCanuck : China must be really cheesed off about something. I wonder what particular political wrangling is going on concerning this.
138 7BOEING7 : "Money talks (especially at the end of year/half/quarter as far as Boeing is concerned) -- you know the rest. The fact that QTR already had one in mo
139 United787 : I happily stand corrected! Maybe AI will even scrape up some more cash and take 3 more this year...
140 Stitch : And yet, if they just approved the purchase of 30 777s....
141 Post contains images KELPkid : Dunno, but if they're replacing less fuel effecient aircraft, think of all the fuel China could be saving as a country by replacing them with 787's..
142 JoeCanuck : True...that just seems to muddy the waters more.
143 Post contains links KarelXWB : The other Hainan bird (LN79 / ZA432) is now also back on the flightline. http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/8296769227/in/photostream
144 gigneil : I apologize if this isn't the appropriate thread, but I am interested in hearing more about the 787-9 schedule... both the first example to test as we
145 SonomaFlyer : The 789 will be assembled this winter/spring with its first flight in the 3d quarter this year. NZ is the launch customer. IIRC, after the first 11 78
146 Post contains images SCL767 : LAN Airlines expects to be the first carrier in the Americas to take delivery of the B-787-9. Just as LAN Airlines was the first carrier in the Ameri
147 Post contains links KarelXWB : And there is more good news: LN34 / ZA380 / B-2725 is now also back on the flightline. None of the completed Chinese birds at PAE are in storage anymo
148 kaitak : Good news; so the issues preventing delivery of the Chinese 787s have now been resolved; when can we expect the first delivery to a Chinese carrier?
149 Post contains links rotating14 : Correct me if I'm wrong but did Boeing deliver 3 more 787's yesterday? http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot.com/?m=1
150 sweair : They delivered 6 frames 12-20-2012 and one more for QR 21-12-2012, the ones you saw fly yesterday were delivered some days before fly out. B delivere
151 DCMTL : Does anyone have an update on the frames in Change Incorporation? Are any of these expected to be ready for flight testing in the next month?
152 SonomaFlyer : I'd expect the Chinese deliveries to take place in the month of January. They just need to complete their Boeing and customer flights and they'll be g
153 Stitch : Per All Things 787, the following frames are in the EMC so they should all be working towards delivery in 2013: LN17 - Royal Air Maroc LN20 - Japan A
154 DCMTL : LN21 and LN39 both have Engines attached (per All Things 787) and have for some time. Does that mean they are almost complete? Will they be finished i
155 kanban : Thinking ahead to the -9, would it be appropriate to start a "787-9 mfg/test" thread as a stand alone, or would it be too confusing? personally I like
156 sweair : How much will the thrust grow for the 787-9 compared to the 8? As PIP2 added booster stages to the current engine for more thrust?
157 PHX787 : Have they any work completed on the test frame anyway?
158 sweair : LN126 is the first 9 frame, it will probably enter FAL around June?
159 hkcanadaexpat : LN 21 is scheduled for delivery in Feb 2013. LN 39 by 30-June-2013 (without any more precise information).
160 NYC777 : When LN 17 is delivered next year it mostly likely won't be to RAM but to another customer who will obviously get a nice discount.
161 Stitch : Baseline thrust for the 787-8 is 64,000 pounds and for the 787-9, it is 75,000 pounds. The top thrust I am aware of is 77,826 pounds for the Trent 10
162 hkcanadaexpat : LN 17 most probably to end up with Transaero but more likely delivered in Q1-2014 than in 2013.
163 Post contains links KarelXWB : A peak on the surge line: - position 3/4: LN90 / ZA242 (Air India) - position 2: LN94 / ZA318 (first for Thomson) - position 1: LN97 / ZA513 (ANA) htt
164 BlueSky1976 : Does this mean that next 787s due in 2013 for Lot Polish Airlines will be delivered in January? Interesting...[Edited 2012-12-27 03:22:37]
165 hkcanadaexpat : LOT was saying SP-LRC in Late-Jan, SP-LRD in Early-Feb and SP-LRE in Early Mar as recently as last month in terms of delivery timetable for the next
166 Post contains links NYC777 : A peak on the surge line: - position 3/4: LN90 / ZA242 (Air India) - position 2: LN94 / ZA318 (first for Thomson) - position 1: LN97 / ZA513 (ANA) htt
167 starrion : Given that the remaining frames have (tens of) thousands of jobs each, how many of the 20 or so change incorporation aircraft will deliver in 2013?
168 KarelXWB : You are right, I need my glasses.
169 Post contains links SonomaFlyer : ZA 285 (L/N 45) for UA is scheduled for delivery and ferry flight from PAE to LAX today, Dec 27th per United/Cont. Existing Fleet Upgrade Status 14 (b
170 KarelXWB : About 12 of those frames should be deliverable next year. Let's have a look on the list. - There are 5 pre-LN66 frames ready (ready = finished work a
171 United787 : Nice to see that UA accepted delivery of their 6th earlier than expected! What does UA do with the aircraft at LAX? N27903 (L/N 52 - UA#5) spent a we
172 KELPkid : So if UA #5 wasn't flying for United at LAX, what was she doing there? Seems confusing that UA is getting new birds delivered to LAX, yet all the fly
173 SonomaFlyer : LAX is the "induction" airport for UA on the 787. CALTECH or someone at UA might be able to give details but it likely involves "customer specific" st
174 United787 : That is what I thought... but they went to IAH for the first 4, correct? I am guessing they now need the hanger space at IAH for the 787s already in
175 ordramper98 : No, UA's first two (904, 906) went to IAH. The last three (902, 905, 903) and now 901 are going/ went to LAX for induction.
176 Capt747ret : CalTech? I think that they are too busy with their curiosity about Mars. They have had an ongoing opportunity that I’m sure they don’t want to tur
177 7BOEING7 : As I stated previously, if the airplane is ready to deliver Boeing wants the money, especially at the end of the year. They're getting the airplanes
178 SonomaFlyer : You're likely kidding but I'll bite, CalTech is a member of A.Net who works for UA (I believe he is an sCO engineer).
179 sweair : LN45 was not expected, how many test flights did it have? I saw it had an experimental number just the other day. This was really a surprise!
180 7BOEING7 : Two, B-1 -- C-1 out the door. What "experimental" number?
181 KarelXWB : I think he is confused with the ANA frame (JA818A).
182 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : That makes sense as ANA ZA512 (83) flew an experimental flight on the 21st and can be seen with the taped over registration in Matt's photo on the 22
183 sweair : Did AI take another frame? A delivery flight has been posted on flight aware?
184 KarelXWB : It probably is ZA240 / VT-ANL, and she is in the air now.
185 aeroblogger : VT-ANL is delivered. VT-ANJ is next up, followed by VT-ANN. It is unclear whether ANJ will be delivered this year - I can't get a word out of AI as to
186 sweair : Did AI find new financing lately? As they took 2 frames in December 2012..
187 aeroblogger : Same financing as before. Finance ministry finally stopped getting in the way.
188 Post contains links Capt747ret : Enjoy! http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...aventador-and-the-boeing-787-video
189 Post contains images KELPkid : I guess NH won't be getting LN 83 before New Year's Day, to mark the halfway point in ANA's 787-800 order
190 7BOEING7 : I thought it might make it earlier in the month but then instead of a C-1 following the B-1 it had an "EWA" flight for some reason and hasn't flown s
191 aeroblogger : VT-ANJ expected to be delivered this week. Probably tomorrow (2JAN), as today is a holiday.[Edited 2012-12-31 18:33:37]
192 PIEAvantiP180 : So what is the year total for deliveries? And total overall deliveries?
193 hkcanadaexpat : Assuming VT-ANJ did not contractually deliver before new year's, 2012 total was 46 and grand total was 49. Next up for January are: Air India: VT-ANJ
194 PIEAvantiP180 : That's a solid number for the year. Is 46 above or below the number of delivered frames Boeing said they expect to do at the beginning of the year?
195 hkcanadaexpat : There was no 787 specific guidance for 2012. Boeing's guidance was for between 70 and 85 deliveries of 787s and 747-8s combined. They've met that goal
196 PW100 : So with 31 748's and 46 787's, total 2012 deliveries were 77. Right in the middle of their initial 2012 guidance. I think that is a solid performance
197 NYC777 : Boeing's guidance for 2012 787 deliveries was half of the 70 to 85 deliveries. Therefore their guidance on deliveries for 2012 (787) was between 35 an
198 Post contains links United787 : As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here. For more specific information on the aircraft
199 dynamicsguy : I disagree. They could never have come close to 42 747-8s even if everything went right, so the realistic figure for 787s should be higher. By my rec
200 Post contains links and images PW100 : Would you please be so kind to show me where Boeing stated that exactly half of those 70 - 85 would have been 787's? According to this http://boeing.
201 Stitch : Well if China was on the ball we might have seen 51 787 deliveries, which would have been 73% of the low estimate and 60% of the high estimate. Evan a
202 sweair : 2012 was the year the 787 turned around, looking forward it will just get better, be produced in record numbers and loved by the flying public.
203 Post contains links KarelXWB : Air India took 3 frames last month, so LN54 / ZA238 / VT-ANJ has been delivered too. http://www.charlestonbusiness.com/ne...elivers-three-787s-during-
204 fleabyte : Does anyone know why (6) ANA teen birds without engines have been re-located to the flight line?
205 seabosdca : I think you are looking at a picture on Matt Cawby's blog without noticing that the date on the picture is December 31, 2010.
206 Post contains images KELPkid : When isVT-ANJ flying away?
207 seahawks7757 : Anyone know if B-2725 has been repainted to the new CZ 787 scheme yet?
208 hkcanadaexpat : It has not and as recently as last month there was no intention on doing so. CZ has said that 9/10 aircraft would sport the special (not new) lively
209 United787 : All Things 787 shows it being delivered 1/2/2013. I wonder how accurate the article is...there is nothing in Randy's blog that specifically says AI t
210 Post contains links KarelXWB : Yeah now I'm confused too. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...0/history/20130103/2030Z/KCHS/EDDF[Edited 2013-01-03 06:52:35]
211 NYC777 : China Southern is saying that they'll be receiving their first 787 in March
212 seabosdca : B-2727 I assume. It's hard to imagine that their first frame would be one not in the special livery.
213 Post contains links KarelXWB : http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2552 11 787 deliveries in December; LN54 was indeed delivered on 1/2/2013 and not last month.
214 MEA-707 : I believe this is the 50th 787 delivery , correct? Also nice to see that l/n 44 to 71 are all delivered now. The production list is getting less spot
215 Post contains links ual747-600 : LIne 54 for is on the way. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AIC170 UAL747-600
216 Post contains links ual747-600 : Line 72 flown to KRTW for paint today. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE241 UAL747-600
217 aeroblogger : VT-ANJ was delivered 2JAN, as predicted.
218 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : First 787 of the new year scheduled to fly later today GUN ZA382 (43) out of storage. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE382
219 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : Maybe tomorrow. Made it after all. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE382[Edited 2013-01-04 13:46:55]
220 petera380 : You made it sound like it was a first flight! ZA382 has already had it's first flight!
221 7BOEING7 : Didn't say that anywhere. If it was a first flight I would have labeled it a B-1. Just the first production flight of a 787 out of PAE in the new yea
222 Post contains links ual747-600 : Not sure but I think LN62 ZA462 38329 A7-BCK Qatar Airways is otw to DOH http://flightaware.com/live/flight/QTR3787 UAL747-600
223 sweair : ZA382 has my favorite livery of all 787s so far. Hope they keep it for all aircraft.
224 KarelXWB : A7-BCK it was.
225 Capt747ret : Any news of the BOS fire?
226 Post contains links Stitch : Breaking: Japan Airlines Is Smoking Up At BOS (by boeingbus Jan 7 2013 in Civil Aviation)
227 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : Out of storage flight (B-1 profile) on ZA430 HNA(73) scheduled for later today. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE430
228 Post contains links KarelXWB : Matt tweeted: ZA512 = LN83 = JA818A I do not know what has changed on this frame. Picture by Matt Camby: http://paineairport.com/kpae5817.htm
229 Post contains links KarelXWB : Breaking news on the CAAC issue?! http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/289048798548852736
230 Post contains links United787 : It seems like there is enough activity with the Chinese planes to take them off the "black list". As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and
231 Post contains links KarelXWB : Production update! LN89 / JA830J is in paint. http://paineairport.com/kpae5822.htm LN83 / JA818A went on a certification flight with the FAA on board.
232 7BOEING7 : FAA requirement so the people flying on the airplane know what they're getting into.
233 Post contains images United787 : Maybe they should put that logo above all 787 doors so passengers know what they're getting into
234 sonomaflyer : ZING! I think the issues are in-hand and will be sorted before long. Unlike prior a/c introductions, Boeing has real-time data fed to them via Sat Li
235 United787 : I know and I agree...but I couldn't resist the opportunity!
236 Post contains links tistpaa727 : The PR nightmare is just nuts. I just took to calling out the author of a recent Forbes article. Just ticks me off. I posted a comment in his article
237 NYC777 : It'll all be forgotten in a few months as the media's attention will be deflected by the latest scandal on "Here Comes Honey Boo Boo"
238 PlanesNTrains : With the 787 I want to be able to say the same as you, that in a few months it will all blow over. But it's been FIVE YEARS of crap with the program
239 sonomaflyer : I think we all need to keep in mind that in the history of commercial aviation, there've been plenty of a/c programs which have suffered delays, initi
240 Capt747ret : From AW&ST concerning other electrical issues that have been blown out of proportion: We’d only seen it once in 100,000 hours on the system. The
241 sonomaflyer : Thanks for that info Capt. That makes more sense to me that there was a manufacturing defect on a run of boards rather than a design flaw with the ele
242 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : LOT #3 ZA272 (86) scheduled for a B-1 later today--first one of the new year at PAE. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE272
243 GSPflyer : Hey guys, I have a question, and since it's relevant, I thought I would ask it here, instead of starting a new thread. I am wondering which 787s are b
244 7BOEING7 : Maybe Saturday
245 justloveplanes : Are any of the Air India birds flying?
246 KarelXWB : Here is an overview: Delivered: LN46 / ZA237 / VT-ANI (Air India) LN54 / ZA238 / VT-ANJ (Air India) LN60 / ZA239 / VT-ANK (Air India) LN65 / ZA240 /
247 Post contains links KarelXWB : LN54 / VT-ANJ hasn't entered revenue service yet but the other frames are flying. http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/vt-ani http://www.fligh
248 Post contains links KarelXWB : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...2/history/20130112/1500Z/KPAE/KFTW LN43 / ZA382 is scheduled to fly to Fort Worth in about a hour. Is it going
249 KarelXWB : LN92 / G-TUIA for Thomson is outside (but not painted yet).
250 Post contains images sweair : I hope LN43 does not lose that beautiful livery, any less euro white is a win Most boring white livery is JAL, it is just plain boring.
251 Post contains links KarelXWB : sabian404 has just uploaded a high-res picture of LN92 / G-TUIA: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sabian404/8376293838/lightbox/
252 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : LOT #3 ZA272 (86) finally off on its B-1: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE272
253 Post contains links KarelXWB : China delays B787-8 certification following incidents: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...-certification-following-incidents Those poor Charleston
254 sweair : They will make Qatar, AI and UA frames too?
255 Post contains images KarelXWB : Yes but that's gonna take a while with a production rate of 1 frame a month. And building a Qatar frame means dealing with Admiral Akbar,
256 seabosdca : Seems VT-ANJ started revenue service with a round trip to DXB yesterday, and is doing another one today. Small miracle that of all the mechanical inc
257 KarelXWB : Air India said they faced some electrical issues too.
258 2175301 : Since the human brain and thinking involves electrical signals, I agree that it is in fact obvious that they do in fact face electrical problems. Tha
259 NYC777 : One wonders now if Boeing is going to give some of those Chinese frames to other customers? Perhaps that's why ZA382 flew to Ft. Worth yesterday?
260 7BOEING7 : I think the Chinese will end up taking these in the first half, if not in March as they recently indicated. As for another customer, I think the inte
261 Capt747ret : My 2 cents worth The news media thrives on controversy, pain and spin. Let’s make it clear that spin is another word for lie; it is a distortion of
262 kanban : Charleston may produce a/c for any airline that buys the 787..... so what's the question? eventually they will also produce -9s and -10s
263 Post contains images PHX787 : We established previously that these frames can be taken by other airlines right, so what's holding B back? Speaking of previous threads, this thing i
264 SonomaFlyer : Reallocating frames is a very big deal. Taking those frames away from Chinese state owned airlines is a bigger deal. Boeing isn't going to do any such
265 dc1030cf : I heard B-2727 is to receive a modified paint job. No more, no less. Either way, we'll find out in about a week.
266 AA737-823 : Welcome to my respected user list- a list which I haven't touched in nearly a decade! Well said. There is way too much at stake for Boeing to flippan
267 KarelXWB : Matt reports that LN90 / VT-ANN is in paint and on the flightline.
268 sweair : Some poster felt sorry for them only having chinese frames in fal, I just added that they will eventually have other airlines to build for, even the
269 Post contains links iowaman : Since this thread has received over 250 replies, please continue the discussion here: 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 13 (by iowaman Jan 14 2013 i
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