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User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 5490 times:
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Interesting developments this month in the aviation industry of Greece and Cyprus  

- Qatar announces flights between ATH & JFK   

- Easyjet just announced 2 weekly flights from LCA to MXP starting at the end of March, with Hermes airports negotiating ryanair's next flights from Cyprus for the summer. Also, Easyjet will introduce MAN from SKG and CDG from CFU (seasonal).

- What's going on with Skygreece Airlines and Hellas Airlines?

- Emirates upgraded its LCA flights to an a340.. How are the loads on the flights?

- Air France announced seasonal flights to ATH from Nice, Toulouse & Marseille

- Cyprus Airways! What's going on? Still hearing some rumors about MEA and Aeroflot taking over, what do you think?

- IB decides to leave ATH  

Anything more that you believe needs to be discussed, just comment  

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User currently offlineushermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2965 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 5431 times:

EK is actually going to use a 777-200 on the DXB-LCA-MLA route in 2013, so loads must be pretty good.


Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5358 times:
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Does that aircraft have first class seats as well? EK dominates the Cyprus-Asia/Africa/Oceania market and many consider them for flights to the US. They've established their name here for sure  

User currently onlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2985 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5326 times:
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The three regional non ER models do not have first , however the six ER aircraft do have seating for 12 first class passengers.

User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5200 times:
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I guess Cyprus gets one of the regional ones. There s quite a huge difference in the number of available seats between the a340 and the 777-200! is most of the traffic towards LCA?

User currently offlineTUGMASTER From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Jul 2004, 690 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5192 times:

Was looking at the BA LHR-LCA flights for next summer, and looks like the outbound will become an overnight flight.
Traditionally this has always been a daytime flight.....
alot less appealing now ... 22.30 ex LHR 0500 LCA. ...
very little chance to get some sleep on a short 4 1/2 hour overnighter...
+ it now looks like the aircraft will sit at LCA for 6 hiurs prior to the return ex LCA1100 -1400 LHR.

Shame.


User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5188 times:
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Does that mean that this will make connections easier? Because before if you wanted to connect on a BA flight you had to stay overnight in London. Also, is it with an a320 or are they staying with the 767?

User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5172 times:
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Yep connections are easier now.. must a response to the VS-CY agreement which must have seen them lose alot of US bound traffic from Cyprus. However, it still doesn't make sense to leave their 767 grounded for so long in LCA.

User currently onlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2985 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5134 times:
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Emirates timetable shows 3 Class 772 (That's ER) with FJY from February.

These are A6-EMI A6-EMH A6-EMG A6-EMJ A6-EMK and A6- EML

F=12 J=42 Y=220 that's an uplift of just 7 in Y (Economy) over the A343 (Both F and J are identical !)and thats shared with Malta !

However the 772 has significant cargo uplift over the A343


User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 5125 times:
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Quoting rutankrd (Reply 8):
F=12 J=42 Y=220 that's an uplift of just 7 in Y (Economy) over the A343 (Both F and J are identical !)and thats shared with Malta !

I was looking at the ones without First class seats and they offer 304 economy seats thats why i said its a huge difference. And i know its shared with Malta but i was asking if there is more demand for LCA than for MLA.


User currently onlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2985 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5116 times:
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Quoting VCy (Reply 7):
Yep connections are easier now.. must a response to the VS-CY agreement which must have seen them lose alot of US bound traffic from Cyprus. However, it still doesn't make sense to leave their 767 grounded for so long in LCA.


Its almost certainly a slot usage issue at LHR. A 6-7 am LCA departure would use up a valuable early morning Trans Atlantic slot.

Arrivals at LHR between 1 and 3-30 PM are the lowest value/cost yet still allow connections onto the late afternoon trans Atlantic departures block.

What it does mean is a Looooong wait going east for many from the US/Canada- To Cyprus (Need a book and plenty of spending money for refreshments in T5/T3

[Edited 2012-12-09 07:47:17]

User currently onlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2985 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5106 times:
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Quoting VCy (Reply 9):
I was looking at the ones without First class seats and they offer 304 economy seats thats why i said its a huge difference. And i know its shared with Malta but i was asking if there is more demand for LCA than for MLA.

I understood that was your thought process , really through the move is likely driven by boxes rather than pax.

I suspect LCA generates the majority of PAX and east bound perishable cargo, however Malta takes much of the inbound cargo including consignments transferred on to Libya.


User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 5090 times:
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Quoting rutankrd (Reply 10):
Arrivals at LHR between 1 and 3-30 PM are the lowest value/cost yet still allow connections onto the late afternoon trans Atlantic departures block.

What it does mean is a Looooong wait going east for many from the US/Canada- To Cyprus (Need a book and plenty of spending money for refreshments in T5/T3

I have a feeling that the CY and VS flights will be more popular. They have promoted it very well in Cyprus, but either way there is strong demand for London itself to fill up the flights  
Quoting rutankrd (Reply 11):
I suspect LCA generates the majority of PAX and east bound perishable cargo, however Malta takes much of the inbound cargo including consignments transferred on to Libya.

I've always wondered how much demand there is for MLA from DXB from EK's network. I know for sure that they have very very very low fares between LCA & MLA, making it very popular with Cypriots.


User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 4790 times:

Quoting VCy (Reply 12):
I have a feeling that the CY and VS flights will be more popular. They have promoted it very well in Cyprus, but either way there is strong demand for London itself to fill up the flights

The 14:00 arrival of BA at LHR practically means that passengers may connect to transatlantic flights departing after 15:30 taking into account the guidance for 90 connection time between T3 and T5 (unless LCA is moved back to T5???).

The 22:30 departure from LHR is indeed less appealing as any passengers arriving from transatlantic flights will have to wait for quite long time until their departure for LCA.

I have traveled twice on the BA to/from LCA during the last 10 months and both times the a/c was parked at a remote stand and buses were used for boarding/de-boarding. Is BA only using remote stands at T3 or was it just coincidence?



CY@Uk
User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2608 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4749 times:
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Aegean will be moving its Heathrow flights to Gatwick and they will be also launching night flights to Kiev.

User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4691 times:
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Does anyone have any information with the flights to China that are supposed to start next year?

User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2608 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4668 times:
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Quoting VCy (Reply 15):

All I know is that they are supposed to fly to Paphos, not Larnaca.


User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4659 times:
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That's what i've heard too.. I d like to see Hainan operate the flights but it will probably be one of the skyteam carriers. I think it shoud of been LCA!

User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4632 times:

Quoting VCy (Reply 17):
That's what i've heard too.. I d like to see Hainan operate the flights but it will probably be one of the skyteam carriers. I think it shoud of been LCA!

If the above realizes, it will definitely have to be out of LCA if Business Customers are targeted.

Speaking for LCA, it is quite interesting that many of Europe's large carriers do not fly to LCA.

Some of them include:

Air France
KLM (code shares with CY on LCA-AMS flights)
Iberia (or Iberia Express which surprisingly flew to Mykonos over summer 2012)
Air Berlin
Germanwings

I am wondering why this happens whilst many of the above carriers fly to other "smaller" destinations in Europe.



CY@Uk
User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4617 times:
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Quoting CYatUK (Reply 18):
Speaking for LCA, it is quite interesting that many of Europe's large carriers do not fly to LCA.

Some of them include:

Air France
KLM (code shares with CY on LCA-AMS flights)
Iberia (or Iberia Express which surprisingly flew to Mykonos over summer 2012)
Air Berlin
Germanwings

                        Thnak you!!! That's what i dont get either!!
Air France and Iberia especially! I mean Paris has very very strong demand from LCA and Spain is one of the most popular destinations and yet there are no direct services       The demand was proved with ryanair's flights to Girona which were always full. I dont get it!   


User currently offlineushermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2965 posts, RR: 16
Reply 20, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4583 times:

SkyTeam's lack of service to LCA from Europe is quite annoying to me personally as well. Only TAROM serves Cyprus directly from a European airport, albeit with an inferior product, their old 737-300s.  


Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 4578 times:
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Agreed! Hopefully this will change given CY's strong bond with SkyTeam  

User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2608 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4555 times:
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Quoting CYatUK (Reply 18):
Air Berlin

If I am not mistaken they fly during the summer from Nuremberg.

Quoting CYatUK (Reply 18):
If the above realizes, it will definitely have to be out of LCA if Business Customers are targeted.

Well, the deal is to bring most of the Chinese tourists to Paphos, so I guess that is why they are not going to be flying to Larnaca.

Quoting CYatUK (Reply 18):
Air France

Well Transavia flew from Orly to Larnaca this summer, I guess Air France has no interest. Also, Cyprus Airways isn't even flying daily, so I think the market isn't that great.

Quoting ushermittwoch (Reply 20):

There is Aeroflot with their IL96 flights! 
They operate up to three daily flights in summer.


User currently offlineushermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2965 posts, RR: 16
Reply 23, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 4549 times:

Quoting JU068 (Reply 22):

There is Aeroflot with their IL96 flights! 
They operate up to three daily flights in summer.

Of course this is correct. lol
But it is from most European airports it is actually shorter to fly to BEY and connect there than to fly via SVO.  



Where have all the tri-jets gone...
User currently offlinedancrane From Italy, joined Aug 2006, 6 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4517 times:

Quoting VCy (Thread starter):

I can't find any press release from U2 regarding the route between MXP and LCA, can You give me a source of the information?


User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4555 times:
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Quoting dancrane (Reply 24):

I found it on U2 's website   try searching MXP-LCA any Wednesday or Sunday after March (if im not mistaken).


User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 26, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4498 times:
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Quoting dancrane (Reply 24):
I can't find any press release from U2 regarding the route between MXP and LCA, can You give me a source of the information?

check the inspire me section on their website  


User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2608 posts, RR: 6
Reply 27, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4648 times:
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The flight departs Larnaca at 21:00 and arrives to Milan at 23:50. I wonder what this means for Cyprus Airways and their two weekly rotations.

User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4622 times:
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Isn't CY terminating it MXP flights?

User currently offlineJU068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2608 posts, RR: 6
Reply 29, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 4627 times:
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Quoting VCy (Reply 28):

Flights are bookable in May/June so they might have reconsidered it. I know they are terminating their flights to Vienna.


User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 4518 times:

Quoting JU068 (Reply 22):
If I am not mistaken they fly during the summer from Nuremberg.

Well, yes.

I should have been more specific - I meant Air Berlin flights to Berlin where connections to Europe and US may also be taken. Hopefully they will be considered once the new BER airport opens.

Quoting JU068 (Reply 22):
Well Transavia flew from Orly to Larnaca this summer, I guess Air France has no interest. Also, Cyprus Airways isn't even flying daily, so I think the market isn't that great.

I have no idea about the Cyprus-France market but in any case I don't think CY decisions represent the market as they stopped their flights to MAN which usually had good loads IMO.



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User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4366 times:
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Quoting CYatUK (Reply 30):
stopped their flights to MAN which usually had good loads IMO.

and BHX, leaving monarch with a monopoly  


User currently offlineFreshSide3 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 32, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4358 times:

Glad to see a Greece/Cyprus forum. Many interesting comments. But there are other issued to be addressed.

(1) I see concerns about the upstart Greek carriers, Sky Greece, and Hellas Airlines......any word on Minoan?

(2) Is Ethiopian bringing ADD-ATH?

(3) First I heard about IB pulling out of ATH. Been watching the Greece market on an everyday basis....and noticing that there had been some extra flights on IB, charters, and even Spanair(when they were around). I don't think because of lack of passengeres.

(4) The deal with more capacity on Emirates. Likely has to do with Australia and the Philippines. No more SQ or Thai service, which means less connection options for both countries to
Greece. However, capacity from AU to DXB has increased, with new service from ADL.


User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4340 times:
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Quoting FreshSide3 (Reply 32):
Glad to see a Greece/Cyprus forum.


 
Quoting FreshSide3 (Reply 32):
any word on Minoan?

From what i understand i think they are operating flights on behalf of a scandinavian airline. as seen on this trip report -> Greek Hospitality On A Domestic Flight In Sweden

Quoting FreshSide3 (Reply 32):
(4) The deal with more capacity on Emirates. Likely has to do with Australia and the Philippines. No more SQ or Thai service, which means less connection options for both countries to
Greece.

The more capacity was about Cyprus. Cyprus has never had a SQ or Thai service. EK has pretty much dominated the CY-Asia/Oceania market.


User currently offlineFreshSide3 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 4329 times:

EK did have a promotional A380 flight on DXB-ATH a few weeks ago. Would not surprise me to seeing it more often, given the absence of SQ/TG, and the new ADL-DXB trip.

User currently offlinedebonair From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2417 posts, RR: 4
Reply 35, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4293 times:

Quoting VCy (Thread starter):
Interesting developments this month in the aviation industry of Greece and Cyprus  

- What's going on with Skygreece Airlines and Hellas Airlines?

Further questions:

1. When will we see finally MINOAN AIR's Oxford timetable???

The airline plans to operate the Munich, Amsterdam, Copenhagen Dublin and Edinburgh routes starting in January 2013 with a gradual introduction that will last for two months.
http://www.minoanair.com/blog/blog/2...0/01/Minoan-Air-flies-from-Oxford/

2. What happened to SX-GRN GREENJET's first A320?? http://www.greenjet.gr/

3. What happened to SX-DIO ASTRA's first A320? Still flying?


User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks ago) and read 4166 times:

Given Deltas 49% stake in Virgin Atlantic and the proposed setup of a JV to operate flights between UK and the US, I wonder how this will affect the code sharing agreement between VS and CY. Would it be feasible to upgrade the code sharing agreement to cover DL flights as well?


CY@Uk
User currently offlineUAL747DEN From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2392 posts, RR: 11
Reply 37, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4151 times:

Getting to Cyprus on STAR was no fun either, I don't know about now but the connections were impossible so CY was the only option. It was a fine option however its an off network connection. Coming back to the US we had to stay overnight in FRA, not so fun when you just want to get home!

I will do just about anything to get back out that way though, my favorite International destination by FAR. Normally I never want to go back somewhere because I want to see something new but Cyprus is one of the most amazing places to be on earth as far as i'm concerned! The people were amazing and the bar at the Meridien was so nice! Lots of drunken nights at that bar!



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User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4124 times:

Quoting UAL747DEN (Reply 37):
Getting to Cyprus on STAR was no fun either, I don't know about now but the connections were impossible so CY was the only option. It was a fine option however its an off network connection. Coming back to the US we had to stay overnight in FRA, not so fun when you just want to get home

The "usual" Summer schedule of STAR carriers and especially LH, allows connections to the majority if US destinations via either FRA or MUC as there is usually a daily flight from LCA that arrives at one of the two hubs at around 6.00 - 7.00 a.m. making transatlantic connections on LH and UA possible.

For the return trip back to Cyprus, the connection has to be only on either a Saturday or a Sunday when LH offer flights departing from their hubs in the morning (rather than late night as is the case for their weekday flights) hence allowing connections from inbound transatlantic flights.

Connections to some US cities are also available via VIE (on OS) and LHR (using Aegean and then United).

In Winter connections usually become more difficult as the majority of flights departing from Cyprus arrive at the central European hubs in late afternoon or even in early evening - usually after the departure of the transatlantic flights hence an overnight stay is required.

Given A3 moving of LCA-LHR flights to LGW from Summer 2013, the LHR option will no longer be available on Star.



CY@Uk
User currently onlinebennett123 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 7566 posts, RR: 3
Reply 39, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 4073 times:

I heard recently that the ex OA A340's were to be scrapped in Athens.

Can anyone confirm this.

Many thanks.

David


User currently offlineAIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2499 posts, RR: 1
Reply 40, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4054 times:

Quoting CYatUK (Reply 13):
The 14:00 arrival of BA at LHR practically means that passengers may connect to transatlantic flights departing after 15:30 taking into account the guidance for 90 connection time between T3 and T5 (unless LCA is moved back to T5???).

LCA is indeed moving back to T5... I think with SIN and SYD moving to T5 as well, I think we will see some Terminal changes again for next Summer timetable.



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User currently offlineFreshSide3 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3988 times:

From what I understand, the four OA A340s were sold to a leasing company in Florida a few months ago. Don't know what happened to the fifth plane.

User currently offlinespetouss From Cyprus, joined Jun 2005, 71 posts, RR: 0
Reply 42, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 3969 times:

Ryanair posted today flights from Paphos to Weeze (NRN) starting in next April....

User currently offlineushermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2965 posts, RR: 16
Reply 43, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 3961 times:

Quoting spetouss (Reply 42):

Ryanair posted today flights from Paphos to Weeze (NRN) starting in next April....

Damn it!

I just booked a flight to LCA from CGN for, I assume way more money.  

EDIT: Okay, just looked. It's only once a week (Tuesday) and not really cheaper, considering baggage fees, inflight catering and booking fees.

[Edited 2012-12-12 08:54:54]


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User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 3900 times:
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According to CY's newsletter, they have an agreenment with AF, providing connections to 6 destinations in France via CDG.

But what was surprising in the newsletter is that they said that CY business class passengers can use Star Alliance's lounge at LHR    


User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 45, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3717 times:

Quoting VCy (Reply 44):
According to CY's newsletter, they have an agreenment with AF, providing connections to 6 destinations in France via CDG.

Does that mean that LCA-CDG flights will be code shared with AF?
Also, will the CY flight number be added to certain flights from CDG to these 6 destinations?

Quoting VCy (Reply 44):
But what was surprising in the newsletter is that they said that CY business class passengers can use Star Alliance's lounge at LHR    

Who is operating the Star Alliance lounge at LHR T1? Perhaps they got a good deal from them.



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User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3627 times:
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Quoting CYatUK (Reply 45):
Who is operating the Star Alliance lounge at LHR T1? Perhaps they got a good deal from them.

Wouldn't it make more sense if they used VS's lounge?

Does anyone know why there is an EK aircraft grounded at LCA? passed by there very early in the morning and it was there.. saw it later again around 3ish..if i'm not mistaken its an a330


User currently offlineushermittwoch From Germany, joined Jan 2004, 2965 posts, RR: 16
Reply 47, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3634 times:

Quoting VCy (Reply 46):

Does anyone know why there is an EK aircraft grounded at LCA? passed by there very early in the morning and it was there.. saw it later again around 3ish..if i'm not mistaken its an a330

No idea. But it cannot be the flight to MLA from earlier today since that bird is in Malta, ready to take off to LCA.



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User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 48, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 3575 times:
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FR summer destination's from PFO :Chania, Dusseldorf-Weeze, Kaunas, Krakow, London Stansted, Manchester, Milan - Bergamo, Patra-Araxos, Stockholm & Thessaloniki.

User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 49, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3390 times:
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Air Baltic coming back to LCA from April  

User currently offlineVCy From Cyprus, joined Dec 2012, 236 posts, RR: 0
Reply 50, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3251 times:
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CY asking for 73 million euros more from the government.
"AILING state carrier Cyprus Airways (CY) is asking the state for an additional €73 million as part of a restructuring plan to make the company viable, it emerged yesterday.
This would be over and above some €31 million requested earlier this year, with €15 million already granted.
“I understand the difficult economic conditions we are going through but this company cannot go forward if new capital is not injected to keep it going until the summer and give the time necessary for its restructuring,” CY chairman Stavros Stavrou told reporters.
A viable restructuring plan was a condition set by parliament earlier this year before releasing the second tranche of €31 million requested by the airline.
The plan, prepared by Air France-KLM, was presented to the House Finance Committee yesterday behind closed doors.
Stavrou said the aim was to make the company viable and attractive to foreign investors.
There is interest from investors, Stavrou said, but they also wanted to see the plan and signs that it was being implemented.
The plan calls for cutting personnel by 407 to 623, bringing salaries down to the levels of the competition and introducing working hours to suit the needs of the airline in the current competitive environment.
It also proposed outsourcing the airline’s maintenance, a provision opposed by unions and the management." - cyprus-mail


User currently offlineFreshSide3 From United States of America, joined Nov 2012, 213 posts, RR: 0
Reply 51, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2915 times:

What's the status of Larissa Airport? I heard about 3-4 years ago they planned to remodel it, and have service back in there in 2013.......any updates?

User currently offlineCYatUK From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 810 posts, RR: 0
Reply 52, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 2715 times:

Quoting VCy (Reply 48):
FR summer destination's from PFO :Chania, Dusseldorf-Weeze, Kaunas, Krakow, London Stansted, Manchester, Milan - Bergamo, Patra-Araxos, Stockholm & Thessaloniki.

LCA-CRL appears to be available on their booking system but no other routes from LCA appear at this time.



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Reply 53, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2626 times:
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Some new routes for the summer from LCA:
-Travel Service (Smartwings) to Prague
-Tansavia to Paris Orly
-Aerosvit to Odessa and Donetsk


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Reply 54, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 2455 times:
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So it looks like FR has pulled out of LCA. Instead, they are adding Girona and Bologna from PFO. Hopefully someone picks up LCA-BCN/girona because the demand is huge.

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Reply 55, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2450 times:

Quoting VCy (Reply 54):

So it looks like FR has pulled out of LCA. Instead, they are adding Girona and Bologna from PFO. Hopefully someone picks up LCA-BCN/girona because the demand is huge.

It's only an hour and a half drive. There is no need to add flights to LCA, especially for FR, since I am pretty sure that PFO has substantially lower fees than LCA.



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