ogshelly From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 34784 times:
This is what I just read in the Universal, Mexican newspaper, sorry just Spanish: http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/888926.html
A Lear Jet 65 miles after take off early this AM from Monterrey.
RIP and my condokences to the families of Jenny Rivera, and her crew.
4. Don't know if this plane was on a Part 135 Certificate.
5. Starwood Management LLC is owned b y Rodatz Financial Group, Inc. at the same address with Suite 202. Rodatz Financial Group Inc., shows 18 planes with relationships at this location according to www.jetnet.com. (The Google Earth shows this address as a UPS store, but it could be wrong)
It will be interesting to find out if this was a real Part 135 charter, lease, Part 91 or Part 134 1/2 trip. Condolences to the families.
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AR385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 5943 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 30073 times:
Plane found. No survivors. "Completely fragmented" according to sources. So sad. It is a strange accident, though, not saying antything sinister is involved, just that a Learjet just does not fall out of the sky like that.
SR117 From Mexico, joined Jun 2000, 793 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 29824 times:
Quoting AR385 (Reply 10): Plane found. No survivors. "Completely fragmented" according to sources. So sad. It is a strange accident, though, not saying antything sinister is involved, just that a Learjet just does not fall out of the sky like that.
The footage on TV makes it look at this was a very high speed impact, and given the distance from the takeoff point, this seems very strange indeed. The wreckage reminds me of the PSA Bae 146 crash.
I wasn't a fan of the lady's music but she was quite popular, it's always very sad when you see footage of people being interviewed a few minutes before something tragic, they state how happy they are and seem in good spirits, and then fate takes everything away so suddenly.
flymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 6996 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 27604 times:
Saw this story. When I heard is was a Lear 25 first thing that came to my mind is a fairly old jet. Of course it could be flown safely but I feel like flying in a Jet that old can't be the best thing in the world for two reason that come to mind. One if it is part 135 its a smaller company that does not have newer planes, and maybe a company that is not making much money. 2nd someone wanted to have a private jet but did not have the money for a newer one. I feel like if you are going to fly around in a Lear 25 you might as well just fly first class commercial and charter when you need it or purchase a smaller cheaper jet or even turbo prop.
Hopefully this aircraft has a black box. I would imagine it will have a data recorder yes?
Always horrible to hear about any fatal incident.
"It was just four of us on the flight deck, trying to do our job" (Captain Al Haynes)
Viajero From Mexico, joined Aug 2008, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 27313 times:
RIP Jenni. Condolences to Don Pedro and the rest of the Rivera family.
Quoting SR117 (Reply 13): Exactly... it was almost at cruise level ! Given the fact that there were apparently no emergency calls made before radar lost contact with the plane, this all seems quite strange.
Very strange indeed. In any event, it makes one wonder...
akelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2160 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 26253 times:
Quoting AR385 (Reply 19): According to the above the Captain was 78 years old. Is that possible?
Quoting as739x (Reply 20): Yes. Only age limit is for Part 121, which this was not.
Heart attack, stroke, or other major medical issue? If the pilot slumped over the control yoke they could have gone into a steep dive and with the high Gs the co-pilot might have been pinned in his chair or went unconscious. Would explain the high-speed impact.
Those are the different types of operations, and how they are classified in 14 CFR, or Chapter 14 of the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations.
Part 121 is scheduled air carrier, part 135 is a charter/commuter on demand air taxis, part 91 is private general aviation. It's just the way the different regulations are in U.S. federal law. This aircraft is not an airline so part 121 regulations do not apply. Part 121 is the only type of flying that has an age limit. So as long as the pilot can pass a medical he or she can continue to fly.