flybehubby From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2008, 177 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 15315 times:
I have it on good word that EI will operate VS domestic routes. EI base at LGW to be closed and all staff to be transferred to LHR to operate on behalf of VS. 4 x A319/20 with the crew in full VS uniform and a/c painted in VS colours.
migair54 From Spain, joined Jun 2007, 2874 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13440 times:
I knew this since time ago but when i said many people didn´t believe me, however it´s pretty surprising the freqs, 6xday to EDI??? that´s a lot.... i was expecting something like 3 or 4 to EDI and another destination like GLA to allow connexions to VS network.
BritishB747 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 182 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 13190 times:
Have any of the flight times been released and are they on sale? I have seen the times for the MAN services but im interested in the Edinburgh and Aberdeen times as they are the local affordable airports.
Quoting acelanzarote (Reply 4):
Are all the A320´s from LGW then, otherwise are some services/routes out of DUB being cut to
free up planes for this?
Hard to know. EI have another 2 A319 for delivery early next year, so in theory they would only be cutting 2 fleet units from their current network.
On the other hand EI currently have an impressive cash reserve, they could see it as an option to short term lease 2-4 A320 to dedicate to this wet lease VS operation. Contract is currently for 3 years.
EI already have a small base in LGW, perhaps those crew can operate from both airports?
AAMDanny From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 12854 times:
EI did have a LHR base of Crew in the past, I think it was only about 20 cabin crew based there, I'm not sure if it still exists or not.
EI is a wise choice as they already have short haul op's established in LHR T1, so accommodating the extra flights wouldn't be a problem. They also operate into MAN EDI and ABZ, so the start up transition should be easy.
The A320's will be in 174 seats. No mention of a premium class so it's assuming it's all Y config.
Hot breakfast will be served on morning flights and snacks on all other flights.
Flight's will operate with VS flight numbers, numbers will be VS3001onwards
clydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10898 times:
Quoting jwhite9185 (Reply 15): Interesting to see if theres any cabin refit as currently EI have Aer Lingus embossed on the seatbacks.
Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 10): EI s A320 is very similar in hard product to BA, I'm not sure if they've got air display on their A320s but don't expect to see anything like VX. For an hours flight duration though who cares
My thinking is that the aircraft won't be transferred from the existing EI fleet, but will be additional aircraft leased by EI for the purpose of this contract. So the interiors can be whatever is decided by VS.
I'm also thinking that the crew for this will mainly be recruited locally and specifically for this contract, bar a few trainers etc from the main EI operation.
This contract will probably have a fixed end date so it will be designed so that both EI and VS won't have any issues with being able to close it down at the end.
A340crew From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 10490 times:
This should not be too difficult for EI to manage since they just closed down the United Airlines Joint Venture on the IAD-MAD route. Also now that the United gig is over EI has one "wet lease/joint venture" program under there belt. Possibly some of the IAD displaced workers with EU working rights (there were very few, mostly management, a few flight attendants and all the pilots who were mostly A320 guys who got upgraded to the A330 just for the IAD route) will end up on the Virgin contract in LHR.
Also this sounds like a drastically different service than EI's flights. I have flow them on short DUB-LON routes before and they could barely complete a BOB service with there sky cafe menu, never mind serve 174 hot meals on a short flight. It will be interesting to see how it works out. It will also be interesting to see some of those irish girls in the VS uniform.
GCT64 From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2007, 1869 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 10078 times:
I'm intrigued to see how the VS pricing on LHR-EDI-LHR settles down (my bread and butter journey is up to EDI - 30 return trips in 2012). Post-BD, the pricing has gone upwards (mostly I think as a result of BD's lower priced offering disappearing and less I think from BA increasing their prices - but I haven't got facts to back that up).
I suspect that VS will price very similarly to BA, so I will continue to use EZY for the bulk of my travel to EDI (this year was ~66% EZY, ~33% BD/BA).
Flown in: A30B,A306,A310,A319,A320,A321,A332,A333,A343,A346,A388,BA11,BU31,B190, B461,(..53 more types..),VC10,WESX
EIDL From Ireland, joined Apr 2012, 768 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 9339 times:
Quoting CaptCufflinks (Reply 21): I would have though that based on VS' image conscious branding team there would be a few small tweaks to the EI aircraft - very bland and boring from what I remember.
The most likely craft, if they are going to use the A319, are two ex-IB birds which likely don't even have the EI interior yet. Unlike the last two I haven't seen pics of them hiding in full colourscheme in a hanger months in advance so they may not even be green yet.