LipeGIG From Brazil, joined May 2005, 11200 posts, RR: 61 Posted (5 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 33933 times:
AIRLINERS.NET CREW FORUM MODERATOR
As the previous thread exceeded the mark of 250 posts, we're opening the discussion thread number 13 so those using low speed internet connections can take full advantage of the website.
Previous thread (there you will find a link to the previous one)
TOTAL (1066/1,307) - 81.56%
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INTERIOR MODIFICATIONS
New Airbus Interior Bins
A319 (1/55-1.81%) - 4026
A320 (3/98-3.06%) - 4258, 4275, 4293.
New First & Business Seats for United International Widebodies
Includes new Y class carpeting, bulkheads & cloth seat covers
B744 (23/23-100%) - Complete
B763 (21/21-100%) - Complete
B763 (2 Cabin) (13/14=92.85%) : 664, 666-677 [12].
B772* (39/43=88.37%) : 204, 209, 216-229 [14], 769, 771, 773-778 [6], 780-785 [6], 787-788 [2], 792-795 [4], 797-798 [2] (6 aircraft #210-215 are in domestic configuration).
B772 HI/Dom Config (0/3-0%) [3 of remaining 7 - 768/772/779/786/791/796/799 may be reconfigured domestic]
TOTAL (96/104-90.47%)
* Includes Weber 5751 cloth seats with power ports in 3-3-3 configuration and new larger PTVs with AVOD and winged headrests.
* 777 fleet reconfiguration should be complete by 2013.
New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for Continental International fleet COMPLETED
B752 (41/41-100%); B764 (12/12- 100%); B772 (22/22-100%) = TOTAL (75/75-100%)
cruiseshipcrew From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 189 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 33374 times:
Quoting CO 757-300 (Reply 2): just out of curiosity since i am scheduled to fly EWR-EZE in a few weeks, how many 763s have blended winglets?
All of the two class Businessfirst 767-300s have them.
AussieItaliano From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 441 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 33252 times:
Quoting cruiseshipcrew (Reply 3): Quoting CO 757-300 (Reply 2):
just out of curiosity since i am scheduled to fly EWR-EZE in a few weeks, how many 763s have blended winglets?
All of the two class Businessfirst 767-300s have them.
I'm pretty sure EWR-EZE is operated by a 3 class 763 though (which doesn't have winglets).
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 7, posted (5 months 1 week 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 32765 times:
319 Paint:
N809UA sked to Enter AMA 6855/12
N814UA sked to Exit AMA 6856/13
763ER 3 class Maint:
N651UA Entered GSO 6880/11Dec
N652UA sked to Exit 6857/12Dec.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 9, posted (5 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 32290 times:
763 3 Class heavy maintenance:
N652UA exited GSO 6857/12Dec
N651UA entered GSO 6880/11Dec.
N657UA Exited GSO 6852/13Dec
763ER 2 Class Upgrade
N667UA sked for a HKG test hop 16Dec - should be done soon
N666UA flew revenue trips out of SFO today - expected to be next one into HKG
744
N104UA entered AMA 7945/11Dec - for paint?
sCO 752
N21108 exited SFO 1476/11Dec - may have WiFi, but probably not turned on.
787-8 New Delivery:
N45905 Sked 6857/14 PAE-LAX. 4th 788 to enter fleet.
Maint Flights:
753 N57870 6880/13 to GSO - unknown Maint (ETOPS)
753 N75854 Has been in LAX since 12/4 - unknown Maint (Non ETOPS)
772 N78002 6860/14 to HKG - Heavy maint?
319 Paint:
N815UA sked to exit AMA 7951/14Dec
N812UA sked to enter AMA 7950/14Dec.
One 319 to go N817UA
One 320 to go N485UA
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 15, posted (5 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 31380 times:
763ER 2 Class Upgrade
N667UA sked to exit HKG 6868/17 - N667UA sked for a test hop at HKG in a few minutes
N666UA, expected next to HKG has not shown up with a ferry number yet - flew an NFL charter today I presume.
319 Paint:
N447UA sked to exit AMA 6852/16Dec
N485UA sked to enter AMA 6880/16Dec.
When N485UA goes in, you will only see 320s in Globe paint except for N475UA in retro livery.
752 Fleet exit
N501UA, which has been out of service since Aug 5 ferried SFO-VCV, to be stored or preparation for fleet exit?
772 Paint:
N776UA sked to exit VCV 7959/17Dec
N784UA sked to enter VCV 7958/17Dec
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 16, posted (5 months 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 31174 times:
752 Fleet Exit or Paint?
N544UA, which was on a removal list for 9/12, sked to ferry to VCV 7962/16Dec.
Will have to wait to see if it gets painted or is leaving the fleet.
762ER maint?
N73152 has been in LAX since 12/13. Maint or possible Fleet exit.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 17, posted (5 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 30971 times:
sUA 772 Update
4 of 52 left to paint in globe colors (plus touchup or repaint of N218UA in UA Star colors)
N776UA to Exit VCV 7969/17Dec with new Paint
N784UA to enter VCV 7958/17Dec for Paint
N228UA in PEK Maint since 11/23/12 - Test Hop today, should return soon
N226UA in PEK Maint since 12/8/12
N209UA Exited PEK Maint 12/13/12
N219UA entered PEK Maint 12/13/12
N798UA in SFO for IPTE since 11/25/12
N775UA in SFO since 12./5/12 - expect WiFi conversion
744 Update
13 or 23 left to Paint
N104UA in AMA since 12/10/12 for Paint
763ER Update
14 of 35 left to paint (all 14 are 3 class aircraft)
2 Class Interenational Upgrade: 9 completed, 3 in HKG, 2 to HKG soon
N651UA in GSO since 12/11/12 Maint
N664UA in HKG since 11/27/12 for 2 Class Upgrade
N665UA in GSO since 12/6/12 - Maint in preparation for HKG upgrade
N666UA should be heading to HKG within a day or so for 2 class upgrade
N667UA in HKG Sked 6868/17Dec HKG-SFO with 2 class upgrade
N672UA in HKG since 11/18/12 for 2 Class Upgrade
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 18, posted (5 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 30640 times:
738 DTV installation:
N76523 Entered INT 6855/17Dec
N76522 to Exit INT 6856/17Dec.
772 Paint
N784UA still in SFO, 7958/17Dec SFO-VCV Cxld - will monitor
772 PEK Maint:
N228UA sked to exit PEK 898/18
763ER 2 Class upgrade.
United.com showing ferry 6876/19DEC GSO-SEA. May indicated N665UA will head to HKG instead of N666UA, replacing N667UA, which is back in SFO with 2 Class upgrade complete.
n515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 237 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (5 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 30228 times:
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 9): 753 N75854 Has been in LAX since 12/4 - unknown Maint (Non ETOPS)
Scheduled to fly UA1201 tomorrow, 12/19...does not appear to have received E+
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 16):
752 Fleet Exit or Paint?
N544UA, which was on a removal list for 9/12, sked to ferry to VCV 7962/16Dec.
Will have to wait to see if it gets painted or is leaving the fleet.
FriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4003 posts, RR: 6 Reply 24, posted (5 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 29466 times:
Quoting DC8FanJet (Reply 23): 5944 is in for paint. 59xx aircraft have the winglets installed, doubt they will be returned anytime soon.
If the terms of the lease are less favorable than another 752 I doubt UA cares what it has installed. Only reason I could see UA holding onto a more expensive bird is for ETOPS.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 25, posted (5 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 29629 times:
Post Edited for 739ER New delivery:
N37464 is now en route BFI-MCO flight 6850/19Dec.
There was a list posted some time back that had the below 752s listed for retirement/lease returns. I don't have much confidence it as the Sep birds are still flying. Hoping someone could verify if the list has any value at this point.
Retirements on the list (standard Domestic 752 and Globe paint unless noted) - None of the below have undergone Interior Refresh at MCO
Sep 2012 527UA & 544UA (both in UA Blue) Note: 544 is ETOPS
Jan 2013 598UA
Feb 2013 532UA, 517UA (both are ps units with UA Blue paint)
March 2013 508UA (also ps unit)
May 2013 506UA & 573UA
July 2013 574UA
Sep 2013 503UA, 507UA, 511UA, 515UA, 519UA
Nov 2013 525UA, 533UA, 534UA (525UA is ps unit)
Dec 2013 534UA
Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 24): Only reason I could see UA holding onto a more expensive bird is for ETOPS.
Also minor fuel savings/better range with Winglets
True, but I wonder if that would be enough to offset the lease terms. I'm sure the beancounters running UA have spreadsheets taking all this into account. Same reason they'd retire 598...the newest 752 in the pmUA fleet but probably also worth the most to a lessor.
I'm personally surprised they'd dump an ETOPS bird though, I figured the remaining 752s would be delegated to p.s. and Hawaii.
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6079 posts, RR: 56 Reply 29, posted (5 months 15 hours ago) and read 29541 times:
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 25): Retirements on the list (standard Domestic 752 and Globe paint unless noted) - None of the below have undergone Interior Refresh at MCO
Sep 2012 527UA & 544UA (both in UA Blue) Note: 544 is ETOPS
That's not correct; I saw N544UA in service just a few days ago at LAX.
The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21215 posts, RR: 19 Reply 30, posted (5 months 10 hours ago) and read 29425 times:
What is the status of the conversion of the Star Alliance aircraft from the tulip to the globe (in the small United title at the lower front)? I saw a 772 with the blue/orange tulip at IAD on Tuesday but was not close enough to get the registration.
I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
n515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 237 posts, RR: 0 Reply 31, posted (5 months 10 hours ago) and read 29416 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 30): What is the status of the conversion of the Star Alliance aircraft from the tulip to the globe (in the small United title at the lower front)? I saw a 772 with the blue/orange tulip at IAD on Tuesday but was not close enough to get the registration.
That was N218UA. The other PMUA 772 in *A livery is N794UA, which has the new title and the nacelles painted gray. It's unknown whether 218 will be completely repainted or just get the title/nacelle touchup.
Also, 744 N121UA does not appear to have been updated.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 33, posted (4 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 28791 times:
763ER:
N665UA en route 6876/21Dec GSO-SEA, then 6976/22Dec SEA-HKG for 2 class upgrade
735 fleet exit:
N18622 to ferry IAH-HOU 6849/22Dec, undoubtedly for fleet exit
It looks like sUA 752 N547UA exited MCO 7948/21Dec with an Interior Refresh as it was in MCO about a week.
Quoting The777Man (Reply 29): Sep 2012 527UA & 544UA (both in UA Blue) Note: 544 is ETOPS
That's not correct; I saw N544UA in service just a few days ago at LAX.
N544UA is in VCV for either paint or a lease return. We'll just have to wait and see - it was not removed from the fleet in Sep and neither was N527UA.
KLASM83 From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 584 posts, RR: 0 Reply 35, posted (4 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 28702 times:
Sorry to (temporarily) hijack the thread, but I was wondering how long it takes to install those new bins on the Airbus aircraft? Is it possible to do in a day, with a good crew to install them and the paper work, or it more of a day-long thing? 4295 sat in DEN all day in MX, until they pulled it out to do 779, so I was wondering.
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5336 posts, RR: 11 Reply 36, posted (4 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 28586 times:
Is there any way we can add the 757-222 refurbishment program to the fleet listing?
I am sched to fly 540 on Sunday, but I don't know if it's a refurbished aircraft!
Hope it is... the last pmUA 752 I flew on got me there safely, and that's the best thing I can say about it.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 37, posted (4 months 4 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 28483 times:
787-8 New Delivery:
N45905 scheduled to make first revenue flight today 1433/22Dec IAH-SFO
Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 36):
Is there any way we can add the 757-222 refurbishment program to the fleet listing?
I am sched to fly 540 on Sunday, but I don't know if it's a refurbished aircraft!
Hope it is... the last pmUA 752 I flew on got me there safely, and that's the best thing I can say about it.
I've posted the Interior Refresh program as they exit MCO on the fleet page (In remarks).
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj3TTkYJD3ICdDVrdkZqS3g5R0F2THBJcDRpclZkT2c#gid=7
there may be a few that I've missed in the last month as the program looked like it had stalled, - will check on them later today.
Re aircraft 540UA - it was in MCO 9/28-10/6, so I'm pretty sure it has been refurbished.
no1racer From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 113 posts, RR: 0 Reply 38, posted (4 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 28272 times:
I've flown on a few non-refurbished pmUA 752's. Overall, what do these refreshes do to the aircraft? I assume there are no new features added. Is it just bins, seat covers, carpet, sidewalls, stuff like that? Thanks.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 39, posted (4 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 28218 times:
Quoting no1racer (Reply 38):
I've flown on a few non-refurbished pmUA 752's. Overall, what do these refreshes do to the aircraft? I assume there are no new features added. Is it just bins, seat covers, carpet, sidewalls, stuff like that? Thanks.
From CALTECH's post on upgrade thread #13 Nov 10,2012
"What I have seen so far, new back and bottom cushions and covers, armrests and tray tables repaired/replaced, overhead bin doors and overhead bins being painted or new installs, new sidewall panels or maybe they are just getting paint too, DADO panels getting cleaned, new curtains, deco on galleys, closets lavs and kick panels redone.. . . . . "
I believe the carpet in galleys are being replaced with a rubberized product.
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5336 posts, RR: 11 Reply 41, posted (4 months 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 28157 times:
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 37): I've posted the Interior Refresh program as they exit MCO on the fleet page (In remarks).
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Aj3TTkYJD3ICdDVrdkZqS3g5R0F2THBJcDRpclZkT2c#gid=7
there may be a few that I've missed in the last month as the program looked like it had stalled, - will check on them later today.
Thanks, I'll head over there and check it out!
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 37): Re aircraft 540UA - it was in MCO 9/28-10/6, so I'm pretty sure it has been refurbished.
And a Merry Christmas to you, too!
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 39): I believe the carpet in galleys are being replaced with a rubberized product.
Indeed, which is supposed to improve the overall odor of the cabin, by removing ancient, coffee-soaked carpet.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 42, posted (4 months 4 weeks ago) and read 28071 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 40): Any news on when the first newly reconfigured PS 757 will enter service? And what the timeline for the others conversions might take place.
And the 4 Hawaii configured 764s?
There are 3 sUA752s aircraft in IND. N596UA (ETOPS unit) was to be the first with the new ps configuration and it's been in IND since 10/16. N520UA entered 11/15 and N516UA on 11/30. I've been checking daily for any movement. I assume all three are in for ps, but 516 and 520 are older units (w/o ETOPS or overwater equp).
While ps service doesn't require ETOPS or overwater certification, some on these boards have stated maybe ps units could be utilized on selected TATL routes. We'll have to see what units get the new ps configuration. For what its worth, with sCO 753s, there is somewhat less need for UA ETOPS units. Of course some of the 753s are covering former 763 routes to Hawaii.
United Express
ERJ-145 Chautauqua (2/8) 267SK, 288SK.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex United EXPRESS two blue (7/22) 16541, 11544, 11547, 16561-14562 [2], 14568, 14573.
ERJ-145 Trans States (6/22) 802HK, 809HK-811HK [3], 835HK-836HK [2].
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex CONTINENTAL EXPRESS (108/116) 11535-11536 [2], 13538-11539 [2], 14543, 11548-14558 [11], 14562, 12564-12567 [4], 16571-15572 [2], 10575; 12900, 14902-29906 [5], 15910-16919 [10], 12921-12922 [2], 14925-14930 /15932-13975 [50], 14977-13981/15983-17986 [9], 13988, 14991-13992 [2], 11994-14998 [5].
ERJ-145XR ExpressJet (104/104) COMPLETED.
ERJ-135LR ExpressJet (7/7) COMPLETED.
ERJ-170 Shuttle America (10/38) 631RW-632RW [2] , 634-638RW [5], 642RW, 856RW-857RW [2].
CRJ-700 GoJet (19/25) 151GJ-169GJ [19].
CRJ-700 Mesa (7/20) 505MJ-506MJ [2], 508MJ, 510MJ, 512MJ-513MJ [2], 515MJ.
CRJ-700 SkyWest (27/70) 701SK-703SK [2], 705SK-710SK [6], 712SK-713SK [2], 715SK-716SK [2], 718SK-719SK [2], 724SK, 726SK-727SK [2], 742SK-745SK [4], 750SK-752SK [3], 754SK, 763SK, 765SK-766SK [2].
CRJ-200 ASA, now Expressjet (1/14) 829AS.
CRJ-200 SkyWest (45/63) 903SW, 905SW, 910SW, 912SW-913SW [2], 915SW-920SW [6], 923SW, 925SW-930SW [6], 932SW, 934SW-939SW [6], 941SW, 943SW, 945SW-946SW [2], 948SW, 952SW, 954SW, 956SW-965SW [10], 967SW, 969SW-971SW [4], 976SW, 471CA.
Dash 8-400 ex Colgan (28/28) COMPLETED - total to be confirmed.
Dash 8-400 ex Lynx (1/4) 507LX.
Q200 CommutAir (16/16) COMPLETED.
Q300 CommutAir (5/5) COMPLETED.
ATR 42-320 (2/2) COMPLETED.
B1900D Silver Gulfstream (10/16) 81535-81536 [2]. 82539, 17541-47542 [2], 81546-69547 [2], 87551-87552 [2], 87557.
EMB-120 SkyWest (0/25) [14 in UA blue paint, 11 in gray paint and 17 extra in SkyWest House Paint].
Total Express (413/605) = 67.76%
_______________________________________________
TOTAL (1070/1,307) - 81.86%
______________________________________________________________________________
INTERIOR MODIFICATIONS
New Airbus Interior Bins
A319 (1/55-1.81%) - 4026
A320 (4/98-4.08%) - 4258, 4275, 4293, 4295.
New First & Business Seats for United International Widebodies
Includes new Y class carpeting, bulkheads & cloth seat covers
B744 (23/23-100%) - Complete
B763 (21/21-100%) - Complete
B763 (2 Cabin) (13/14=92.85%) : 664, 666-677 [12].
B772* (39/43=88.37%) : 204, 209, 216-229 [14], 769, 771, 773-778 [6], 780-785 [6], 787-788 [2], 792-795 [4], 797-798 [2] (6 aircraft #210-215 are in domestic configuration).
B772 HI/Dom Config (0/3-0%) [3 of remaining 7 - 768/772/779/786/791/796/799 may be reconfigured domestic]
TOTAL (96/104-90.47%)
* Includes Weber 5751 cloth seats with power ports in 3-3-3 configuration and new larger PTVs with AVOD and winged headrests.
* 777 fleet reconfiguration should be complete by 2013.
New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for Continental International fleet COMPLETED
B752 (41/41-100%); B764 (12/12- 100%); B772 (22/22-100%) = TOTAL (75/75-100%)
Antoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1503 posts, RR: 4 Reply 46, posted (4 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 27778 times:
Quoting CALTECH (Reply 44): Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 39):
I believe the carpet in galleys are being replaced with a rubberized product.
They call it Loin Coin, and in days gone by, Moon Mat.
It's been standard on Delta and Continental aircraft for ages... Nice and easy to clean, too.
Make something Idiot-proof, and the Universe will make a more inept idiot.
United - Mainline COMPLETED : Total (500/500) = 100%
A319 (55/55)
A320 (97/97)
B735 (8/8)
B73G (36/36)
B738 (130/130)
B739 (64/64) [entering fleet, one tail in CO Retro Livery].
B752 (41/41) former CO
B753 (21/21) .
B762 (5/5)
B764 (16/16)
B772 (22/22) former CO
B787 (5/5) 902-906 [entering fleet].
____________________________________________________
United Express - Total Express REMAINING (251/443)
ERJ-145 Chautauqua (2/8) 267SK, 288SK.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex UA EX two blue (7/22) 16541, 11544, 11547, 16561-14562 [2], 14568, 14573.
ERJ-145 Trans States (6/22) 802HK, 809HK-811HK [3], 835HK-836HK [2].
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex CO EX (108/116) 11535-11536 [2], 13538-11539 [2], 14543, 11548-14558 [11], 14562, 12564-12567 [4], 16571-15572 [2], 10575; 12900, 14902-29906 [5], 15910-16919 [10], 12921-12922 [2], 14925-14930 /15932-13975 [50], 14977-13981/15983-17986 [9], 13988, 14991-13992 [2], 11994-14998 [5].
ERJ-170 Shuttle America (10/38) 631RW-632RW [2] , 634-638RW [5], 642RW, 856RW-857RW [2].
CRJ-700 GoJet (19/25) 151GJ-169GJ [19].
CRJ-700 Mesa (7/20) 505MJ-506MJ [2], 508MJ, 510MJ, 512MJ-513MJ [2], 515MJ.
CRJ-700 SkyWest (27/70) 701SK-703SK [2], 705SK-710SK [6], 712SK-713SK [2], 715SK-716SK [2], 718SK-719SK [2], 724SK, 726SK-727SK [2], 742SK-745SK [4], 750SK-752SK [3], 754SK, 763SK, 765SK-766SK [2].
CRJ-200 ASA, now Expressjet (1/14) 829AS.
CRJ-200 SkyWest (45/63) 903SW, 905SW, 910SW, 912SW-913SW [2], 915SW-920SW [6], 923SW, 925SW-930SW [6], 932SW, 934SW-939SW [6], 941SW, 943SW, 945SW-946SW [2], 948SW, 952SW, 954SW, 956SW-965SW [10], 967SW, 969SW-971SW [4], 976SW, 471CA.
Dash 8-400 ex Lynx (1/4) 507LX.
B1900D Silver Gulfstream (10/16) 81535-81536 [2]. 82539, 17541-47542 [2], 81546-69547 [2], 87551-87552 [2], 87557.
EMB-120 SkyWest (0/25) [14 in UA blue paint, 11 in gray paint and 17 extra in SkyWest House Paint].
United Express - COMPLETED Total (162/162) = 100%
ERJ-145XR ExpressJet (104/104) COMPLETED.
ERJ-135LR ExpressJet (7/7) COMPLETED.
Dash 8-400 ex Colgan (28/28) COMPLETED - total to be confirmed.
Q200 CommutAir (16/16) COMPLETED.
Q300 CommutAir (5/5) COMPLETED.
ATR 42-320 (2/2) COMPLETED.
_______________________________________________
TOTAL (1070/1,307) = 81.86%
______________________________________________________________________________
INTERIOR MODIFICATIONS
New Airbus Interior Bins
A319 (1/55-1.81%) - 4026
A320 (4/98-4.08%) - 4258, 4275, 4293, 4295.
New First & Business Seats for former United International Widebodies
B744 (23/23-100%) - Complete
B763 (21/21-100%) - Complete
B763 (2 Cabin) (13/14=92.85%) : 664, 666-677 [12].
B772* (39/43=88.37%) : 204, 209, 216-229 [14], 769, 771, 773-778 [6], 780-785 [6], 787-788 [2], 792-795 [4], 797-798 [2] (6 aircraft #210-215 are in domestic configuration).
B772 HI/Dom Config (0/3-0%) [3 of remaining 7 - 768/772/779/786/791/796/799 may be reconfigured domestic]
TOTAL (96/104-90.47%)
* Includes 3-3-3 configuration in Y, United Forward/Rear facing, former UA, BusinessFirst Seats and Global First cabin
* 777 fleet reconfiguration should be complete by 2013.
New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for former Continental International fleet
B752 (41/41-100%); B764 (12/12- 100%) {Likely (0/4- 0%) former AirMike}; B772 (22/22-100%) = TOTAL (75/75-100%)
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 48, posted (4 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 27440 times:
747-400 Paint:
N199UA sked to enter AMA 7952/23Dec
N104UA sked to exit AMA 7953/23.
772 WiFi:
N775UA, (sUA aircraft) has been in SFO since 12/5 and rumored to be getting WiFi. It flew a test hop 6865/23Dec today, - test hops seen on all WiFi equipped a/c before resuming revenue service.
735 fleet exit:
N18622 ferried IAH-HOU 6861/23Dec - fleet exit was sked on this aircraft.
beachbum1970 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 46 posts, RR: 0 Reply 49, posted (4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 27374 times:
That picture of the rubber flooring looks horrible! Would rather have the carpeting. If I recall, the carpeting in the galleys were in sections and could simply be ripped up, cleaned (shampooed) and replaced. Also less chance of flight attendants and passengers slipping if there's a spill too, and the floors don't get sticky.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 51, posted (4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 27364 times:
CALTECH,
Do you know when the sUA 752 interior refresh program started?
I show the following aircraft that had enough time at MCO for the work to be done:
568UA 8/22-28
539UA 9/13-22
540UA 9/28-10/6
538UA 10/5-14
504UA 10/13-21
594UA 1020-27
588UA 10/26-11/2
543UA 11/1-8
584UA 11/7-14 (I show this one done)
549UA 11/13-20 (I show this one done)
541UA 11/19-27 (I show this one done)
585UA 11/26-12/3 (I show this one done)
581UA 12/7-14 (I show this one done)
547UA 12/13-20 (I show this one done)
Is either 559UA or 592UA in MCO now?
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5336 posts, RR: 11 Reply 52, posted (4 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 27494 times:
Quoting beachbum1970 (Reply 49):
That picture of the rubber flooring looks horrible! Would rather have the carpeting. If I recall, the carpeting in the galleys were in sections and could simply be ripped up, cleaned (shampooed) and replaced. Also less chance of flight attendants and passengers slipping if there's a spill too, and the floors don't get sticky.
Nothing personal, but wrong on all counts! LOL.
As a mechanic, take my word for it- carpet in a galley is disgusting. Only slightly less gross than the idea of carpet in a lavatory.
SURE, it CAN be ripped up and cleaned, just like the rest of the carpet in the airplane, so I'm not sure what your point was there. But the fact is, they don't clean it nearly often enough. You'd need it shampooed almost daily. Not gonna happen.
And the coin mat (not sure who called it loin coin, but got a laugh out of that) isn't slippery when wet... hence the coins.
CALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 1575 posts, RR: 23 Reply 53, posted (4 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 27429 times:
Quoting Antoniemey (Reply 46): It's been standard on Delta and Continental aircraft for ages... Nice and easy to clean, too.
Believe we had a brown colored one we used in the days of the 'Meatball". Can not believe United still used carpet in the galleys till now.
Quoting beachbum1970 (Reply 49): That picture of the rubber flooring looks horrible! Would rather have the carpeting. If I recall, the carpeting in the galleys were in sections and could simply be ripped up, cleaned (shampooed) and replaced. Also less chance of flight attendants and passengers slipping if there's a spill too, and the floors don't get sticky.
It is horrible, looks like they taped over a reseal of the seam between two sections to let it dry. We have rolls now that are wide enough to get rid of any seams. The smell coming from the carpet in the galleys on United Legacy birds is atrocious, and it was wet with a fluid that combined many smells into one awful smell. That wetness promoted corrosion in the floor. The carpet is the gross item, the mat can be wiped and it is not slippery at all, the little round raised things don't let one slip when the mat is wet. Plus the mat does not trap wetness or that absolutely awful smell in it.
Quoting CODC10 (Reply 50): The rubber flooring is not a new install, just representative.
Carpet in the galley is not sanitary.
The carpet is very gross. The mat is much better for the wet areas.
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 51): CALTECH,
Do you know when the sUA 752 interior refresh program started?
I show the following aircraft that had enough time at MCO for the work to be done:
568UA 8/22-28
539UA 9/13-22
540UA 9/28-10/6
538UA 10/5-14
504UA 10/13-21
594UA 1020-27
588UA 10/26-11/2
543UA 11/1-8
584UA 11/7-14 (I show this one done)
549UA 11/13-20 (I show this one done)
541UA 11/19-27 (I show this one done)
585UA 11/26-12/3 (I show this one done)
581UA 12/7-14 (I show this one done)
547UA 12/13-20 (I show this one done)
Is either 559UA or 592UA in MCO now?
Think it did start with 584UA. Do not believe anything was done before that. Will check.
Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 52): Nothing personal, but wrong on all counts! LOL.
As a mechanic, take my word for it- carpet in a galley is disgusting. Only slightly less gross than the idea of carpet in a lavatory.
SURE, it CAN be ripped up and cleaned, just like the rest of the carpet in the airplane, so I'm not sure what your point was there. But the fact is, they don't clean it nearly often enough. You'd need it shampooed almost daily. Not gonna happen.
And the coin mat (not sure who called it loin coin, but got a laugh out of that) isn't slippery when wet... hence the coins.
beachbum1970 From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 46 posts, RR: 0 Reply 54, posted (4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 27286 times:
Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 52): Nothing personal, but wrong on all counts! LOL.
As a mechanic, take my word for it
Since you're a mechanic, I'll take your word for it Sorry, I should have said I "prefer" the look and feel of carpeting, just a personal preference. But of course you're right, the rubber coin mat is much more sanitary and will be easier to keep clean.
BTW, kudos to the CO folks on keeping their aircraft interiors so clean. I've seen many CO birds coming through DEN and every time I step on board I'm always impressed at how clean and spotless the cabins are. Now if you guys could just replace those 737 seat cushions with something more comfortable Keep up the great work!
gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 55, posted (4 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 27206 times:
I'd be interested in seeing more comprehensive shots of the refurbed sUA 752s. I saw a shot or two of the seats, but viewing the rest of the aircraft in context might be nice.
I am both pleased and surprised by the interior refresh program on the 752s. Obviously, the new carrier can use the capacity on a number of domestic routes, but there are 739s incoming by the droves.
Do we know what fraction of the sUA 752s will be refreshed?
CALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 1575 posts, RR: 23 Reply 57, posted (4 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 27110 times:
Quoting gigneil (Reply 55): I'd be interested in seeing more comprehensive shots of the refurbed sUA 752s. I saw a shot or two of the seats, but viewing the rest of the aircraft in context might be nice.
Are all the sUA 757's being retired imminently, or just the oldest ones? It doesn't seem that the A320/319s have any plans to put DirecTV on them, but their LCD monitors on both sides of the aisles are much better than the 757 tube TV's down the aisle. If any of them are staying, what do you think the odds are of those getting seatback TV's? They tend to fly longer routes, the ones that they charge more for the TV service as well. Tall people wouldn't have to duck anymore. I have seen people hit their heads on those, and shorter people still feel like they need to.
SonomaFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1171 posts, RR: 0 Reply 59, posted (4 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 26836 times:
They would not be refurbishing those 752s if they were about to be retired. Some of the ones which are coming off lease and/or due for heavy maintenance are being retired. The 739s replace those 752s in terms of capacity.
flyua From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 298 posts, RR: 6 Reply 60, posted (4 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 26751 times:
s-UA flight attendant here--
s-CO maintenance techs, from which s-UA aircraft galleys are you removing carpeting? I haven't seen carpeting in our 757 galleys (F/C or aft Y/C galleys) in quite a while. Some years ago, UA began to remove the hideous, smelly, sticky gray carpeting from our galley floors and replaced them with a soft, dark gray rubber-like material. It's not like the "coin" mats I've been seeing on the refurbished s-UA 757s, but it's certainly not carpeting. There is indeed still a section of carpeting in the non-refurbished s-UA 757 aft galley in front of the aft lavatory door and the aft flight attendant jumpseats -- and that carpeting can still get wet and stinky -- but I haven't been on any s-UA 757 or A319/A320 with carpeting directly in the galley prep areas for at least a couple of years.
The s-UA 757 refurbish program is really making a difference. Thank you, s-CO techs, for your great work. The fresh seat covers, the (finally!) repaired rubber armrest caps, all the loose odds and ends in the cabin repaired or replaced... it's such a morale boost to be able to be proud of my product.
One comment about the interiors of our brand new 787s: the lighter blue (compared to s-UA's slightly darker blue) carpeting is already showing dirt. I flew aboard #3906 last week, and I noticed the carpeting around Door 2R back down the right aisle into BusinessFirst showed a brown track of dirt from footprints and cart "traffic." It looked really shabby and stood out in the otherwise beautiful, but tightly packed, cabin. Any word on whether newly delivered aircraft will be getting a new, hopefully darker carpet, more like the current s-UA design?
Thanks again for all your work on our fleets and the great comments on this website!
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 61, posted (4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 26385 times:
738 DTV installation:
N76523 Exited INT 6862/25Dec
N79519 Entered INT 6861/25Dec
Airbus Globe Paint
A319 N817UA sked to exit AMA 6874/26Dec
A320 N485UA sked to exit AMA 7851/26Dec
gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 62, posted (4 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 26380 times:
Quoting CALTECH (Reply 57): United/Cont. Existing Fleet Upgrade Status 13
TBH, that doesn't look much different than the unrefurbished planes, which is why I was soliciting additional photography
Yes I can clearly see the overhead displays are new - but the seats, sidewalls, bins and lighting look no different to me. I'm sure its just this particular shot.
CALTECH From Poland, joined May 2007, 1575 posts, RR: 23 Reply 63, posted (4 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 26172 times:
Quoting gigneil (Reply 62): TBH, that doesn't look much different than the unrefurbished planes, which is why I was soliciting additional photography
Yes I can clearly see the overhead displays are new - but the seats, sidewalls, bins and lighting look no different to me. I'm sure its just this particular shot.
It is so much brighter. Believe the sidewalls and bins go out and get repaired and painted. Seats get new cushions and a different cover. IIRC, there is no difference in seat color between E+ and E. Have to check if they did go from warm white bulbs to cool white.
gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 64, posted (4 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 26102 times:
Well I am gonna try to get on board 3 different 752s in the next few days. Hope I get to see them.
Its so funny - in my home, I want a warm bulb. But on an airplane, I want a cold one....
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 65, posted (4 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 25776 times:
787-8 New Delivery:
N27901 sked for delivery 6879/27Dec PAE-LAX
N27903 sked to ferry 6880/29 LAX-IAH
772 WiFi
N775UA, expected to be getting WiFi sked to Exit SFO 763/27Dec
753 DTV/E+
N56859 sked to exit MCO 6859/28Dec
752 Paint
N544UA sked to exit VCV 6874./28Dec
This aircraft was on a fleet Exit list, but things may have changed. If painted would expect it will stay in the fleet.
tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6171 posts, RR: 9 Reply 66, posted (4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 25715 times:
Quoting cosyr (Reply 58): Are all the sUA 757's being retired imminently, or just the oldest ones? It doesn't seem that the A320/319s have any plans to put DirecTV on them, but their LCD monitors on both sides of the aisles are much better than the 757 tube TV's down the aisle.
As far as the retirements and refurbishments go they don't make a whole lot of sense. Some 1990 builds are getting returned and other 1990 builds are getting the new mods by the s-CO mechanics.
Quoting flyua (Reply 60): Some years ago, UA began to remove the hideous, smelly, sticky gray carpeting from our galley floors and replaced them with a soft, dark gray rubber-like material
IIRC, those carpets are already gone. I've flown 5 sUA 757 this year, all had rubber material. The really retro part of the sUA 757 is the wall paper and ashtrays in the bathroom
Interestingly enough, there is one s-UA 757 with a slimline leather seat interior which I flew in October on IAH-EWR and back in 12/09 on EWR-DEN. What are the odds of that happening!
"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
ORDBOSEWR From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 289 posts, RR: 0 Reply 67, posted (4 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 25636 times:
Quoting tommy767 (Reply 66): As far as the retirements and refurbishments go they don't make a whole lot of sense. Some 1990 builds are getting returned and other 1990 builds are getting the new mods by the s-CO mechanics.
I bet it all comes down to the lease rates that the owner wants. In some cases I bet the owner wanted more so UA decided to just give them back.
I am sure that UA would have preferred to keep the newer birds, but the owners have a say in the process.
Actually, you'll see ashtrays in nearly all airplane lavs, even the 787 as I recall. The reasoning is that even if a passenger were to go for an illicit smoke, he or she would still need a safe place in which to extinguish and dispose of the cigarette!
tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6171 posts, RR: 9 Reply 69, posted (4 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 25590 times:
Quoting ORDBOSEWR (Reply 67): I bet it all comes down to the lease rates that the owner wants. In some cases I bet the owner wanted more so UA decided to just give them back.
You are likely right. Just another a.net myth that UA wants to dump all the s-UA 757 in favor of 739s. Clearly not the case since they are refurbishing some of the oldest model and holding back on a few of the lease returns.
Quoting CODC10 (Reply 68): Actually, you'll see ashtrays in nearly all airplane lavs, even the 787 as I recall. The reasoning is that even if a passenger were to go for an illicit smoke, he or she would still need a safe place in which to extinguish and dispose of the cigarette!
Haha I saw an ashtray once on an IPTE 777 -- I thought maybe it was for gum or something.
"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 70, posted (4 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 25378 times:
Quoting tommy767 (Reply 69): Just another a.net myth that UA wants to dump all the s-UA 757 in favor of 739s.
They are clearly being reduced in force.
Eventually the 737-9 will replace all the domestic 757s in the fleet. That's not a myth and nobody can argue it.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16250 posts, RR: 52 Reply 72, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 24945 times:
Quoting iahcsr (Reply 71): Santa Boeing gave us a gift in the form of an extra 788 this year
That makes six, pretty impressive considering the delays had UA revise their fleet plan calling for only four to be delivered by the end of the year. Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the remaining 5 sCO 787-8s should be delivered in 2013? And the sUA 787-8s as well as the sCO 787-9s should begin deliveries in 2014. So far the permanent International routes identified for 2013 are:
IAH-LOS
DEN-NRT
LAX-NRT
LAX-PVG
With 11 787-8s in the fleet in 2013 obviously there are going to be more routes announced soon, perhaps another four or five routes?
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 73, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 24836 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 72): And the sUA 787-8s as well as the sCO 787-9s should begin deliveries in 2014. So far the permanent International routes identified for 2013 are:
The sUA 788s were not originally supposed to start coming online until 2016...did they speed things up?
Is Boeing still on track for a 2014 in service dates for the 789?
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16250 posts, RR: 52 Reply 74, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 24780 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 73): The sUA 788s were not originally supposed to start coming online until 2016...did they speed things up?
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16250 posts, RR: 52 Reply 77, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 24845 times:
I would have figured they would select the newest sUA 757s for PS conversion, as those are probably going to be the last ones to leave the fleet. Probably to be replaced by the 737-9MAX later in the decade.
SonomaFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1171 posts, RR: 0 Reply 78, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 24843 times:
UA would not refurbish the 757s if they were quickly going to park them. This gives UA the operational flexibility to ramp up service to existing cities and open up new routes.
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 79, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 24855 times:
Quoting tommy767 (Reply 76): Well gee, then they are wasting lots of dollars on interior refurbishments then for the 75
The refurbishment cost is actually fairly low and while the domestic 752s are on their way out the process will take the better part of this decade. It's worth spending a few bucks to improve the interiors in the mean time.
tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6171 posts, RR: 9 Reply 80, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 24799 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 77):
I would have figured they would select the newest sUA 757s for PS conversion, as those are probably going to be the last ones to leave the fleet. Probably to be replaced by the 737-9MAX later in the decade.
that's the thing though: they are returning some of the newer models and refurbishing some of the oldest ones. Odd considering the CO model was being super anal about having a young fleet. I guess they are taking a cue from DL on keeping older planes but dubbing the interiors up.
Quoting SonomaFlyer (Reply 78):
UA would not refurbish the 757s if they were quickly going to park them. This gives UA the operational flexibility to ramp up service to existing cities and open up new routes.
Based on the feedback thus far, it doesn't exactly sound like a cheap task: new carpets, cushions, lavs, lighting etc. Granted a lot cheaper than taking brand new airplanes, however.
"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
CODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2166 posts, RR: 8 Reply 81, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 24751 times:
Quoting tommy767 (Reply 80): that's the thing though: they are returning some of the newer models and refurbishing some of the oldest ones. Odd considering the CO model was being super anal about having a young fleet. I guess they are taking a cue from DL on keeping older planes but dubbing the interiors up.
It's all based on lease payments. If UA can negotiate favorable terms given the aircraft's age, anticipated cost of maintenance, refurbs, etc., then the 757s will stick around. If the lessor feels it can obtain a better rate elsewhere (e.g. cargo conversion) then that airplane will leave the fleet at the end of the lease term. Simple as that, nothing sentimental or "UA vs. CO" about it. The difference now is that CO brings an order book to the table that gives the company some leverage to negotiate better lease terms. If the rent is over a certain threshold, it becomes more cost effective to retire the a/c and replace one-for-one with a new 737-900ER.
Based on the feedback thus far, it doesn't exactly sound like a cheap task: new carpets, cushions, lavs, lighting etc. Granted a lot cheaper than taking brand new airplanes, however.
Carpets, cushions, light bulbs (not lighting - just different bulbs) and getting rid of the floral wallpaper in the lavs is pretty cheap....new seats, monuments, IFE and overheads would be the expensive items and they are not changing those out.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16250 posts, RR: 52 Reply 83, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 24729 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 82): Carpets, cushions, light bulbs (not lighting - just different bulbs) and getting rid of the floral wallpaper in the lavs is pretty cheap....new seats, monuments, IFE and overheads would be the expensive items and they are not changing those out.
I always wondered why they couldn't take the drop down LCDs that have been removed from the sCO 757, 753s, 737NGs etc.. and install them on sUA 757s and 777s to replace the CRTVs. Cost ?
United787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2342 posts, RR: 1 Reply 84, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 24708 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 82): Carpets, cushions, light bulbs (not lighting - just different bulbs) and getting rid of the floral wallpaper in the lavs is pretty cheap....new seats, monuments, IFE and overheads would be the expensive items and they are not changing those out.
Did I hear that they are adding changing tables to the 757 bathrooms and are changing the sinks out to one in which you can actually wash your hands in a sanitary way (no touch and longer spout)?
tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6171 posts, RR: 9 Reply 85, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 24705 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 83): I always wondered why they couldn't take the drop down LCDs that have been removed from the sCO 757, 753s, 737NGs etc.. and install them on sUA 757s and 777s to replace the CRTVs. Cost ?
That would probably cost a lot for re-wiring issues. The biggest advantage to the LCDs is weight savings but it's not like a beast like a domestic 757 would even need that. I suppose they could have done what AA and US did and put the newer LCD screens in the isles where the CRTs are now. What I wonder is did they actually take the CRTs out and "re-tune" them so to speak for color enhancement? Most s-UA 757s I've been on have had decent CRTs, nothing like AA's that are completely out of whack.
Also does anyone know if some will be outfitted with winglets?
"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
flyua From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 298 posts, RR: 6 Reply 86, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 24660 times:
Regarding the s-UA 757 refurbs, my understanding is that we are not installing changing tables in the lavatories. I asked about this, and was told adding changing tables would have required further FAA certification, and that wasn't in the budget or timeframe.
I imagine installing drop-down LCDs would have also required additional FAA certification and certainly a bigger budget, so no new video screens, either.
The s-UA p.s. remodels are, however, getting completely new lavatories and seatback AVOD, as many of you already know.
Again, I'd love to know from which s-UA aircraft the CO maintenance techs are removing galley carpeting. I haven't seen actual carpeting in our aircraft galleys for at least a couple of years. We currently have dark gray, rubber matting in most, if not all, of our aircraft galleys. On the s-UA 757, there is still carpeting between the aft lavatory and the aft F/A jumpseats, and that carpet can certainly get nasty.... Happy to see the new "coin" mats being installed, though I think our dark gray rubber mat is perfectly useable, too.
United787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2342 posts, RR: 1 Reply 88, posted (4 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 24610 times:
Quoting flyua (Reply 86): Regarding the s-UA 757 refurbs, my understanding is that we are not installing changing tables in the lavatories. I asked about this, and was told adding changing tables would have required further FAA certification, and that wasn't in the budget or timeframe.
Well that is too bad...guess I will continue to avoid the 757 when flying with the little one. It is quite shocking that they can't figure this out. Noone seems to know where it is acceptable to change a diaper. If you change in the seats you will get yelled at by a FA and it is not pleasant for other pax. On the galley floor is disgusting for the baby and unsanitary because food is prepared there...
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 90, posted (4 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 24336 times:
Quoting cosyr (Reply 89): I thought there were no changes to p.s. 757's as they were going to be replaced by 739's.
Not at this point the 752's are being redone with lie flat seats in J and AVOD in Y+ and Y. Which in itself is a change...no more F class and Y will be added.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 91, posted (4 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 24318 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 90): Not at this point the 752's are being redone with lie flat seats in J and AVOD in Y+ and Y. Which in itself is a change...no more F class and Y will be added.
The configuration is to be 28 lie flat J, 48E+ and 66Y.
If you look at the PMCO 752 (16BF, 45E+, 108Y=169), add three rows of J behind door 2, which would take J back to the overwing exits. E+ would be 8 rows starting at the exits, then 11 Y rows. http://www.united.com/web/en-US/cont.../inflight/aircraft/757/200/v2.aspx
Total 142 seats vs. current 110 seats on ps configuration.
As for 739s replacing 752s, it will happen over time, but almost 100 units are not coming right away. In fact some of the 150 739ER/Max may replace Airbuses remaining 735s and maybe at least some 73Gs.
752s will be flying domestic, some Hawaii and TATL for quite a while. p.s. may stay 752 for years, especially since UA could keep these units on lower utilization schedules and p.s. flights constantly visit maintenance bases.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16250 posts, RR: 52 Reply 92, posted (4 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 24110 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 75): When UA placed the order with Boeing they were supposed to start coming online in 2016...things may have changed since then.
You're right, I went back and checked the press release and it states the sUA 787s will be delivered starting in 2016, I think the A350s will probably be around then or 2017 if they switch to the A350-1000. That leaves a gap of three years between the last sCO 787-8 delivery in 2013 and the first sUA 787-8 in 2016. When are the 787-9s scheduled to be delivered, 2014? Hopefully the 787-9s will fill that gap.
SonomaFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1171 posts, RR: 0 Reply 93, posted (4 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 24062 times:
Keep in mind, UA should have the flexibility under the Boeing contracts to switch out sub-types. They also have 50 options for the 787s as well. This gives UA the ability to replace the 772s with 789s over time. It would also give them the option for the 787-10s when they are offered.
I suspect Airbus would have no issue changing some of the 25 359s to 351s. UA also has options on the 350s as well.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 95, posted (4 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 23496 times:
787-8 New Delivery:
N27903 made first revenue flight today - 1042/30Dec IAH-EWR.
753 DTV/E+:
N56859 Exited MCO 6855/30Dec.
753 Heavy Mx:
N57855 sked to ferry 6850/01Jan HKG via HNL/NRT
764 Heavy Mx:
N59053 sked to ferry HKG 6860/31Dec (unit already in Lie Flat config)
764Lie Flat:
N76055 sked to Exit HKG 6862/01Jan (completes old Intl to Lie flat conversion - Hawaiian config aircraft expected to be converted in future)
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 96, posted (4 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 23306 times:
Airbus Paint:
319 N812UA has exited AMA 6874/29Dec.
This completes Airbus repainting program. All except one Retrojet are in globe livery.
739ER New Delivery:
N37464 sked to exit MCO 1144/1Jan. Aircraft has E+, but no IFE.
United - Mainline COMPLETED : Total (501/501) = 100%
A319 (55/55)
A320 (97/97)
B735 (8/8)
B73G (36/36)
B738 (130/130)
B739 (64/64) [entering fleet, one tail in CO Retro Livery].
B752 (41/41) former CO
B753 (21/21) .
B762 (5/5)
B764 (16/16)
B772 (22/22) former CO
B787 (6/6) 901-906 [entering fleet].
____________________________________________________
United Express - Total Express REMAINING (251/443)
ERJ-145 Chautauqua (2/8) 267SK, 288SK.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex UA EX two blue (7/22) 16541, 11544, 11547, 16561-14562 [2], 14568, 14573.
ERJ-145 Trans States (6/22) 802HK, 809HK-811HK [3], 835HK-836HK [2].
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex CO EX (108/116) 11535-11536 [2], 13538-11539 [2], 14543, 11548-14558 [11], 14562, 12564-12567 [4], 16571-15572 [2], 10575; 12900, 14902-29906 [5], 15910-16919 [10], 12921-12922 [2], 14925-14930 /15932-13975 [50], 14977-13981/15983-17986 [9], 13988, 14991-13992 [2], 11994-14998 [5].
ERJ-170 Shuttle America (10/38) 631RW-632RW [2] , 634-638RW [5], 642RW, 856RW-857RW [2].
CRJ-700 GoJet (19/25) 151GJ-169GJ [19].
CRJ-700 Mesa (7/20) 505MJ-506MJ [2], 508MJ, 510MJ, 512MJ-513MJ [2], 515MJ.
CRJ-700 SkyWest (27/70) 701SK-703SK [2], 705SK-710SK [6], 712SK-713SK [2], 715SK-716SK [2], 718SK-719SK [2], 724SK, 726SK-727SK [2], 742SK-745SK [4], 750SK-752SK [3], 754SK, 763SK, 765SK-766SK [2].
CRJ-200 ASA, now Expressjet (1/14) 829AS.
CRJ-200 SkyWest (45/63) 903SW, 905SW, 910SW, 912SW-913SW [2], 915SW-920SW [6], 923SW, 925SW-930SW [6], 932SW, 934SW-939SW [6], 941SW, 943SW, 945SW-946SW [2], 948SW, 952SW, 954SW, 956SW-965SW [10], 967SW, 969SW-971SW [4], 976SW, 471CA.
Dash 8-400 ex Lynx (1/4) 507LX.
B1900D Silver Gulfstream (10/16) 81535-81536 [2]. 82539, 17541-47542 [2], 81546-69547 [2], 87551-87552 [2], 87557.
EMB-120 SkyWest (0/25) [14 in UA blue paint, 11 in gray paint and 17 extra in SkyWest House Paint].
United Express - COMPLETED Total (162/162) = 100%
ERJ-145XR ExpressJet (104/104) COMPLETED.
ERJ-135LR ExpressJet (7/7) COMPLETED.
Dash 8-400 ex Colgan (28/28) COMPLETED - total to be confirmed.
Q200 CommutAir (16/16) COMPLETED.
Q300 CommutAir (5/5) COMPLETED.
ATR 42-320 (2/2) COMPLETED.
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TOTAL (1073/1,308) = 82.03%
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INTERIOR MODIFICATIONS
New Airbus Interior Bins
A319 (1/55-1.81%) - 4026
A320 (4/98-4.08%) - 4258, 4275, 4293, 4295.
New First & Business Seats for former United International Widebodies
B744 (23/23-100%) - Complete
B763 (21/21-100%) - Complete
B763 (2 Cabin) (13/14=92.85%) : 664, 666-677 [12].
B772* (39/43=88.37%) : 204, 209, 216-229 [14], 769, 771, 773-778 [6], 780-785 [6], 787-788 [2], 792-795 [4], 797-798 [2] (6 aircraft #210-215 are in domestic configuration).
B772 HI/Dom Config (0/3-0%) [3 of remaining 7 - 768/772/779/786/791/796/799 may be reconfigured domestic]
TOTAL (96/104-90.47%)
* Includes 3-3-3 configuration in Y, United Forward/Rear facing, former UA, BusinessFirst Seats and Global First cabin
* 777 fleet reconfiguration should be complete by 2013.
New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for former Continental International fleet
B752 (41/41-100%); B764 (12/12- 100%) {Likely (0/4- 0%) former AirMike}; B772 (22/22-100%) = TOTAL (75/75-100%)
ordramper98 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 84 posts, RR: 0 Reply 98, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 23010 times:
Shuttle America N633RW is painted in the new livery.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 99, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 22548 times:
Any chance that 772 (A model) in old international configured N768UA , in SFO since 12/26, is in for conversion to Hawaiian configuration?
Does anyone know what's going on with sUA 752 N559UA - Flight Aware shows it arrived in MIA 12/16?
738 to INT:
N24202 appears sked into INT 6857/2Jan.
News stories state NS Aviation at INT was awarded a contract to have two lines of upgrade/maintenance for United. INT has already added DTV to 8 739s and 5 738s to date with a 738 and 753 in INT at this time.
N24202 is the oldest domestic 738 and already has DTV. My guess is that maybe INT will be doing WiFi installations. Anyone have an idea or info?
VC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2421 posts, RR: 9 Reply 101, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 22197 times:
On the 763ER: what does 2 class upgrade mean? A 763ER goes from 3 class to 2 class w CO lie flats?
The world is missing love, let's use our flights to spread it!
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16250 posts, RR: 52 Reply 102, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 22172 times:
Quoting VC10er (Reply 101): On the 763ER: what does 2 class upgrade mean? A 763ER goes from 3 class to 2 class w CO lie flats?
It goes from a two class domestic configuration to a new two class International configuration with the lie flat BusinessFirst cabin.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 104, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 22035 times:
772 Maint:
sUA N218UA sked to enter PEK 6865/3Jan
sCO N78002 Sked to exit HKG 6868/4Jan
sCO N78003 sked to enter HKG 6851/5Jan
763ER 2 Class Reconfiguration:
N672UA Sked to exit HKG 6866/4Jan
N666UA Sked to enter HKG 6969/4Jan (last Ghetto bird)
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16250 posts, RR: 52 Reply 105, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 22007 times:
Quoting VC10er (Reply 103):
In all my years on CO and UA, I was never on a 2 class old domestic 767! Which is why I asked. Thanks!
They were previously mostly flying to Hawaii. They have been replaced by sCO 753s.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 106, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 21981 times:
In all my years on CO and UA, I was never on a 2 class old domestic 767! Which is why I asked. Thanks!
They were previously mostly flying to Hawaii. They have been replaced by sCO 753s.
The last one, N666UA is sked to depart SFO Flight 6853/4Jan en route HKG for 2 Class international Lie flat upgrade. They've been using N666UA the past couple weeks on charters and for Holiday lift.
Here's the configuration. (34/210)
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/aircraft/767/300ER/v3.aspx
Being reconfigured to this one (30/184)
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/aircraft/767/300ER/v2.aspx
Which is pretty much a shorter clone of the 764 Lie Flat (39/203)
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/aircraft/767/400ER/default.aspx
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16250 posts, RR: 52 Reply 107, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 21964 times:
Here's a question,
When the conversions of the 14 763s are complete, approximately how many daily flights will they support? And are they all accounted for in the current schedules.
tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6171 posts, RR: 9 Reply 108, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 21964 times:
Quoting VC10er (Reply 103): In all my years on CO and UA, I was never on a 2 class old domestic 767! Which is why I asked. Thanks!
They actually aren't all that old -- from 1998 to 2001. They were originally delivered for high density replacements to the D10.
"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 109, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 21897 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 107): When the conversions of the 14 763s are complete, approximately how many daily flights will they support? And are they all accounted for in the current schedules.
I don't know of future schedules, but right now, 2 International 763s are in GSO maint., 3 763s are in HKG for upgrade, N666UA has probably made its last revenue flight. N672UA will return completed in a couple days.
So, of 21 International, 19 should be flying and of 14 2 class, 10 should be flying and the 11th available in maybe 5 days.
As far as what the 763ER 2 class will fly, one would suspect TATL (maybe 2 flights per aircraft per day), some South America (1 flight per day), plus maybe some domestic positioning flights and potential of very limited Hawaii service.
Right now, the 10 flying 2 class units are flying. IAH-EZE/LIM, EWR-IST/MUC/EWR
My guess is when a couple more come out of HKG, the remaining 14 in UA Blue will go into a paint line or two.
Quoting tommy767 (Reply 108): Quoting VC10er (Reply 103):
In all my years on CO and UA, I was never on a 2 class old domestic 767! Which is why I asked. Thanks!
They actually aren't all that old -- from 1998 to 2001. They were originally delivered for high density replacements to the D10.
I think he's talking about the configuration, not the aircraft's age. Overhead screens, narrow bins, 6 across 38 inch pitch in Domestic F. Not sure if anything in the interior has seen any upgrade since delivery.
ikramerica From United States of America, joined May 2005, 21025 posts, RR: 60 Reply 111, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 21795 times:
With the shift of 763s to 2-class international, makes me wonder if the 789 will end up being 3-class international. Seems as if those 763s are taking some of the roles originally intended for the 787.
Of all the things to worry about... the Wookie has no pants.
DC8FanJet From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 380 posts, RR: 0 Reply 112, posted (4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 21290 times:
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 99): Does anyone know what's going on with sUA 752 N559UA - Flight Aware shows it arrived in MIA 12/16?
tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6171 posts, RR: 9 Reply 113, posted (4 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 21279 times:
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16250 posts, RR: 52 Reply 114, posted (4 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 21196 times:
Quoting tommy767 (Reply 113): Really? How did that work out exactly? Did they reopen an MX base at MIA?
Probably contractor, just like GSO, INT, LCQ, HKG, PEK etc..
DC8FanJet From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 380 posts, RR: 0 Reply 115, posted (4 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 20998 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 114): Probably contractor, just like GSO, INT, LCQ, HKG, PEK etc..
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 116, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 20764 times:
738 DirecTv Installation:
N76519 sked to exit INT 6862/4Jan
N77520 sked to enter INT 6861/4Jan
763 2 Class:
N672UA now en route HKG-SFO 6866/4Jan -
Last Ghetto Bird to exit US 6853/4Jan to HKG for last of 14 two class lie flat upgrades
PEK Maint:
Sked to enter 744 N216UA 6868/6Jan -
Sked to exit 772 N217UA 7958/5Jan
787-8 New Delivery:
N27901 exited LAX ferry 6856/3Jan to IAH.
Previous deliveries have also ferried LAX-IAH before entering revenue service.
iahcsr From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 3308 posts, RR: 46 Reply 117, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 20763 times:
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 99): N24202 is the oldest domestic 738 and already has DTV
Actually, Ship 0210 is the oldest 738, Ships 201-209 were still 731s at the time. They backtracked with new 738s after Ship 250 was delivered.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 118, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 20741 times:
Quoting iahcsr (Reply 117): Actually, Ship 0210 is the oldest 738, Ships 201-209 were still 731s at the time. They backtracked with new 738s after Ship 250 was delivered.
Thanks for the correction and history. I see from Planespotters that 3210 was Boeing 738 line number 56 and 3202-3209 are Boeing 738 line numbers between 581-647. It looks like 3202 came into the fleet after 3250.
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6079 posts, RR: 56 Reply 119, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 20693 times:
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 116): 787-8 New Delivery:
N27901 exited LAX ferry 6856/3Jan to IAH.
Previous deliveries have also ferried LAX-IAH before entering revenue service.
N27901 was brought into service on 3 January as UA 1548 IAH-LAX after 3903 went tech.
The777Man
Need a Boeing 777 Firing Order....Further to fly....GA, T5, CI and LX 777s
Jaxs170 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 99 posts, RR: 0 Reply 120, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 20620 times:
For the ExpressJet CRJ operation: N820AS and N830AS are in the new colors. There is at least one more that is also painted but I forgot to note which one it is.
cosyr From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 200 posts, RR: 0 Reply 121, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 20496 times:
So how many 788's will they receive this year? Does anyone know when the first 789 is scheduled to come, and will UA receive all of their 788's on order before the first 789?
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 122, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 20491 times:
Quoting cosyr (Reply 121):
So how many 788's will they receive this year? Does anyone know when the first 789 is scheduled to come, and will UA receive all of their 788's on order before the first 789?
Should be 5 788's in 2013...assuming that Boeing is ontime with the 789 and United has not changed the models of any of its aircraft on order the 789's should start coming online in 2014.
n515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 237 posts, RR: 0 Reply 123, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 20416 times:
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 116):
738 DirecTv Installation:
N76519 sked to exit INT 6862/4Jan
N77520 sked to enter INT 6861/4Jan
So that leaves N87527 as the last 'regular' 738 without DTV (aside from GUM-based and the mid-lav aircraft).
It is a bit interesting that 13 738s (and 13 739s) that have recently received DTV haven't gotten E+ either during the DTV mod or shortly afterwards. I realize that STC may be an issue for the Sky 738s, but the rest shouldn't have that barrier.
FriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4003 posts, RR: 6 Reply 124, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 20404 times:
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 125, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 20399 times:
772 Paint:
N784UA sked to exit VCV 7962/4Jan (SFO-VCV)
N787UA sked to enter VCV 7962/4Jan (VCV-ORD)
753 DTV/E+:
N57853 sked INT 6875/4Jan - possible WiFi also.
Expect N57852 to exit INT, but don't see a ferry flight yet.
sUA 752 ps reconfiguration?
N556UA sked IND 6880/5Jan
There are 3 other 752s in IND, presumably for new ps config.
Maybe N596UA will exit soon (in IND since 10/16/12)
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 126, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 20390 times:
Quoting n515cr (Reply 123): So that leaves N87527 as the last 'regular' 738 without DTV (aside from GUM-based and the mid-lav aircraft).
Correct.
Quoting n515cr (Reply 123): It is a bit interesting that 13 738s (and 13 739s) that have recently received DTV haven't gotten E+ either during the DTV mod or shortly afterwards. I realize that STC may be an issue for the Sky 738s, but the rest shouldn't have that barrier.
Yes, 13 738s are without E+ (excluding Air Mike & Mid Lav aircraft).
4 are Sky interior with DTV and would require an STC for E+.
9 are non-Sky with DTV and should not need an STC since they are in the same config as 3507-3518 (SFP-Short Field Package).
Maybe waiting for 3527 to get DTV for this batch of 9.
2 739s (3443/3444) with DTV shouldn't need an STC to get E+. Same config as 3413-3442.
11 739s (3445-3455) with Sky and DTV and would need an STC for E+.
9 739s (3456-3464 with Sky were delivered with E+ and woould need an STC for DTV.
Interesting that INT is getting expanded action - were to have 2 737 lines for mod.
NOTE: 738s, E+ was not added to several aircraft while DTV was installed.
737s have been getting DTV, but 3202 (already has DTV) entered 1/1, maybe for WiFi
753s starting to go through INT - not sure if E+/DTVand/or WiFi - we should know soon.
I show 3 aircraft in INT with 753 N75853 entering tonight - that would be 4 until N57852 exits.
United - Mainline COMPLETED : Total (501/501) = 100%
A319 (55/55)
A320 (97/97)
B735 (8/8)
B73G (36/36)
B738 (130/130)
B739 (64/64) [entering fleet, one tail in CO Retro Livery].
B752 (41/41) former CO
B753 (21/21) .
B762 (5/5)
B764 (16/16)
B772 (22/22) former CO
B787 (6/6) 901-906 [entering fleet].
____________________________________________________
United Express - Total Express REMAINING (256/443)
ERJ-145 Chautauqua (2/8) 267SK, 288SK.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex UA EX two blue (7/22) 16541, 11544, 11547, 16561-14562 [2], 14568, 14573.
ERJ-145 Trans States (6/22) 802HK, 809HK-811HK [3], 835HK-836HK [2].
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex CO EX (109/116) 11535-11536 [2], 13538-11539 [2], 14543, 11548-14558 [11], 14562, 12564-12567 [4], 16571-15572 [2], 10575; 12900, 14902-29906 [5], 15910-16919 [10], 12921-12922 [2], 14925-14930 /15932-13975 [50], 14977-13981/15983-13988 [11], 14991-13992 [2], 11994-14998 [5].
ERJ-170 Shuttle America (11/38) 631RW-638RW [8], 642RW, 856RW-857RW [2].
CRJ-700 GoJet (19/25) 151GJ-169GJ [19].
CRJ-700 Mesa (7/20) 505MJ-506MJ [2], 508MJ, 510MJ, 512MJ-513MJ [2], 515MJ.
CRJ-700 SkyWest (27/70) 701SK-703SK [2], 705SK-710SK [6], 712SK-713SK [2], 715SK-716SK [2], 718SK-719SK [2], 724SK, 726SK-727SK [2], 742SK-745SK [4], 750SK-752SK [3], 754SK, 763SK, 765SK-766SK [2].
CRJ-200 ASA, now Expressjet (3/14) 820AS, 829AS-829AS [2].
CRJ-200 SkyWest (45/63) 903SW, 905SW, 910SW, 912SW-913SW [2], 915SW-920SW [6], 923SW, 925SW-930SW [6], 932SW, 934SW-939SW [6], 941SW, 943SW, 945SW-946SW [2], 948SW, 952SW, 954SW, 956SW-965SW [10], 967SW, 969SW-971SW [4], 976SW, 471CA.
Dash 8-400 ex Lynx (1/4) 507LX.
B1900D Silver Gulfstream (11/16) 81535-81536 [2]. 82539, 17541-47542 [2], 81546-69547 [2], 87551-87552 [2], 81556 -87557 [2].
EMB-120 SkyWest (0/25) [14 in UA blue paint, 11 in gray paint and 17 extra in SkyWest House Paint].
United Express - COMPLETED Total (162/162) = 100%
ERJ-145XR ExpressJet (104/104) COMPLETED.
ERJ-135LR ExpressJet (7/7) COMPLETED.
Dash 8-400 ex Colgan (28/28) COMPLETED - total to be confirmed.
Q200 CommutAir (16/16) COMPLETED.
Q300 CommutAir (5/5) COMPLETED.
ATR 42-320 (2/2) COMPLETED.
_______________________________________________
TOTAL (1079/1,308) = 82.49%
______________________________________________________________________________
INTERIOR MODIFICATIONS
New Airbus Interior Bins
A319 (1/55-1.81%) - 4026
A320 (4/98-4.08%) - 4258, 4275, 4293, 4295.
New First & Business Seats for former United International Widebodies
B744 (23/23-100%) - Complete
B763 (21/21-100%) - Complete
B763 (2 Cabin) (13/14=92.85%) : 664, 666-677 [12].
B772* (39/43=88.37%) : 204, 209, 216-229 [14], 769, 771, 773-778 [6], 780-785 [6], 787-788 [2], 792-795 [4], 797-798 [2] (6 aircraft #210-215 are in domestic configuration).
B772 HI/Dom Config (0/3-0%) [3 of remaining 7 - 768/772/779/786/791/796/799 may be reconfigured domestic]
TOTAL (96/104-90.47%)
* Includes 3-3-3 configuration in Y, United Forward/Rear facing, former UA, BusinessFirst Seats and Global First cabin
* 777 fleet reconfiguration should be complete by 2013.
New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for former Continental International fleet
B752 (41/41-100%); B764 (12/12- 100%) {Likely (0/4- 0%) former AirMike}; B772 (22/22-100%) = TOTAL (75/75-100%)
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 131, posted (4 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 20211 times:
Quoting Transpac787 (Reply 129): Quoting DC8FanJet (Reply 127):
216UA is a 777A domestic configuration, maybe N126UA?
N216UA is an ER with 3-cabins. The 2-cabin domestic A-model birds are N210UA through N215UA.
Sorry, typo, that's N116UA, the 744 expected into PEK maintenance 1/6
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 125): 753 DTV/E+:
N57853 sked INT 6875/4Jan - possible WiFi also.
Expect N57852 to exit INT, but don't see a ferry flight yet.
Typo: That's N75853 that's now in INT.
N57852 sked to exit INT 6857/5Jan with DTV/E+
Antoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1503 posts, RR: 4 Reply 132, posted (4 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 20132 times:
Quoting Jaxs170 (Reply 120): For the ExpressJet CRJ operation: N820AS and N830AS are in the new colors. There is at least one more that is also painted but I forgot to note which one it is.
Incidental to this, there's at least one XE ERJ that's in blues with a white, gold, and grey nose... Obviously that's a matter of spare availability, but it looks MUCH more odd than the white ERJs with blue noses do...
Make something Idiot-proof, and the Universe will make a more inept idiot.
seahawks7757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 145 posts, RR: 0 Reply 133, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 19904 times:
I had a couple of questions for you guys in regards to the paint, how many old United planes are still in Blue rising, what is the break down of that in the 757 and 777 inperticular and what are the ship numbers?
qfatwa From Australia, joined Jun 1999, 710 posts, RR: 0 Reply 134, posted (4 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 19850 times:
Quoting seahawks7757 (Reply 133): how many old United planes are still in Blue rising, what is the break down of that in the 757 and 777 inperticular and what are the ship numbers?
Here is the coutdown [30 remaining plus 3 not to be repainted]!
B744 [13]
N105UA
N107UA
N118UA
N120UA
N121UA Star Alliance - old titles
N122UA
N171UA
N174UA
N175UA
N178UA
N179UA
N181UA
N182UA
B777 [3]
N775UA
N795UA
N218UA Star Alliance - old titles
cosyr From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 200 posts, RR: 0 Reply 136, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19456 times:
Why have the 763's and 744's been at nearly a standstill? It seems a couple of 744's have been painted recently, but they were some of the first, and then they all but stopped. And the 763's literally did stop?
Is there a target date to have everything painted for Mainline, because I imagine it depends on these two fleets. Also, are the 3 class 763's going to get winglets as they get painted?
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 137, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 19432 times:
Quoting cosyr (Reply 136):
Why have the 763's and 744's been at nearly a standstill? It seems a couple of 744's have been painted recently, but they were some of the first, and then they all but stopped. And the 763's literally did stop?
I have no inside info on your questions, but can only provide a hopefully educated guess
Top priority on the 763s must be the 2 class lie flat conversion and that program is winding down. 11 of 14 are completed with the last three in HKG now.
Someone mentioned on this thread, I believe, that the 3 class 763 aircraft (oldest in the 763 fleet) may be replaced by 787s in a few years. Along with the 744 retirements at some point, maybe the plan to paint these aircraft last is to make sure these aircraft only get painted once prior to retirement.
The 772s are nearing completion with only 2 left plus maybe just a touchup on N218UA (Star with tulip logo). Hopefully when completed, an additional paint line may be moved to the 744 or 763 fleet.
I doubt the 3 class 763s will get winglets (5 already completed do not have winglets).
There are currently two WB paint lines (VCV and AMA). If the 744s go in nose to tail at AMA, it will take until about June 1st to complete the fleet with one paint line. If the second paint line at VCV finishes the 772, then moves to 763s, I don't think they will be completed by June 2013. Let's hope a third or even fourth line starts as the 763 2 class program releases the three remaining aircraft at HKG.
cruiseshipcrew From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 189 posts, RR: 1 Reply 139, posted (4 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 19388 times:
Quoting cosyr (Reply 136): Why have the 763's and 744's been at nearly a standstill? It seems a couple of 744's have been painted recently, but they were some of the first, and then they all but stopped. And the 763's literally did stop?
Harder to cover these birds when they are removed from service for a few days. Less flexibility than the fleets with several dozen to a hundred.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 140, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 18984 times:
Widebody Paint:
744 N199UA sked to exit AMA 6875/7Jan
763 N657UA Entered AMA 6852/7Jan
NOTE: 744 N105UA was sked to enter AMA, but plans may have changed. We'll see if another widebody paint line is added if a 744 heads to AMA soon.
763ER 2 Class:
N664UA is sked for a test hop at HKG 6864/9Jan - usually means mod about complete
752 ps reconfiguration
Understand that only 1 752 in IND is getting ps reconfiguration as the STC aircraft. Should be N596UA.
N520UA to exit IND 68979/8Jan (presume Maint only)
N556UA entered 1/5 and could only be ps if N596UA exits real soon.
gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 141, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 18931 times:
Question:
Does Heath make the bin kits for the 763 2-class conversions?
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 142, posted (4 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 18906 times:
Quoting gigneil (Reply 141): Does Heath make the bin kits for the 763 2-class conversions?
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 143, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 18593 times:
764 Maint (no mods):
N59053 sked to exit HKG 6849/10Jan
N67052 sked to enter HKG 6850/10Jan
PEK Maint:
744 N116UA sked to enter PEK 6865/10Jan
772 N226UA sked to test hop PEK 6870/10Jan - next would be a ferry home
738 DTV question:
N87527 has been on our list without DTV. However, United.com shows DTV as an amenity for this aircraft. No record of it being in INT or MCO since early Sep. Believe this aircraft was one involved in Koito seat problems issue. Anyone have an idea on this aircraft?
735 possible fleet exits (could be just maint)
N14628 in IAH since 1/1
N32626 in IAH since 1/4
cosyr From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 200 posts, RR: 0 Reply 144, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days ago) and read 18229 times:
Is there a date for the last 735 flight?
I have searched several flights in August that say that they will be on 735's, which I do not believe. I'm sure the plane would change and they will be retired before then, at the rate they've been leaving now.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 145, posted (4 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 18122 times:
735 Fleet Exit:
N17627 sked 6856/10Jan IH-HOU - very probably fleet exit
N14628 still flying revenue
N32626 still in IAH (since 1/4)
763 Heavy Maint:
N651UA sked to exit GSO 6879/11Jan
N676UA sked to enter GSO 6879/10Jan
752 Maint or WiFi
N564UA has been in SFO since 12/25/12
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 146, posted (4 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 17880 times:
739ER New Delivery:
Nxx465 sked BFI-MCO 6677/10Jan.
Anyone know the full N number?
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 145): 735 Fleet Exit:
N17627 sked 6856/10Jan IH-HOU - very probably fleet exit
N14628 still flying revenue
N32626 still in IAH (since 1/4)
durangomac From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 586 posts, RR: 0 Reply 147, posted (4 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 17825 times:
OO Update:
CRJ-200: N979SW in ROW 1/6 for paint
N980SW in ROW 1/6 for paint
CRJ-700: N730SK in ROW 1/7 for paint
N767SK in ROW 1/7 for paint
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 149, posted (4 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 17368 times:
753 Heavy Maint:
N57870 Exited GSO 6876/11Jan Assume just Maint, but maybe WiFi
N77871 Entered GSO 6875/10Jan
sUA 752 Maint:
N555UA Entering IND 7954/11Jan - This ps unit probable heavy maint, but maybe ps reconfiguration.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 151, posted (4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 17124 times:
Quoting bluewhite (Reply 150): A very informative thread - do you have any idea if N670UA will / has been to HKG for maintenance ?
Thanks a lot.
763 N670UA was in HKG 49 days from 10/9/12 to 11/26/12 for the 2 class Lie Flat upgrade that includes winglets, all new seats, AVOD, interiors, bins, etc.
I'm not sure if that includes heavier maintenance as N676/665/666/671/672UA, which all went through the same mod, have all been to GSO after the mod for 2 to 3 weeks.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 153, posted (4 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 17291 times:
738 DTV:
N77520 Sked to exit INT 6851/12Jan
This could complete the 738 fleet except for the mid lav and Micronesia aircraft. My records show N87527 does not have DTV, but United.com flights operated by this aircraft have DTV as past of the flight amenities.
If INT is to continue with DTV mods, the next ones in should be either the last 3 non-ETOPS 753s or 739s with E+ (#3456-3465), but that batch 10 ten aircraft requires an STC.
762 Fleet Exit????
N73152 is Sked 6877/12Jan EWR-MCO.
Last several 762 to exit fleet received fleet exit work at MCO.
n515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 237 posts, RR: 0 Reply 155, posted (4 months 1 week ago) and read 17061 times:
Some possible updates:
-PMUA 772 N799UA has been in PEK for a few days, mx or IPTE?
-OO CR2 N403SW in SLC since Dec 12, shift over to DL flying?
-OO CR2 N908SW off grid Nov 30 - Dec 25, UA paint, mx, or change to AA/DL/house?
-OO CR2 N909SW off grid Nov 26 - Dec 20, UA paint, mx, or other?
-OO CR2 N924SW off grid Dec7-19, UA paint, mx, or other?
Definite updates:
-Silver Beech 1900D N87555 sold on Jan 9 (Airways Mag). Only 4 of these left in PMCO colors.
United - Mainline COMPLETED : Total (501/501) = 100%
A319 (55/55)
A320 (97/97)
B735 (8/8)
B73G (36/36)
B738 (130/130)
B739 (65/65) [entering fleet, one tail in CO Retro Livery].
B752 (41/41) former CO
B753 (21/21) .
B762 (4/4)
B764 (16/16)
B772 (22/22) former CO
B787 (6/6) 901-906 [entering fleet].
____________________________________________________
United Express - Total Express REMAINING (262/442)
ERJ-145 Chautauqua (2/8) 267SK, 288SK.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex UA EX two blue (7/22) 16541, 11544, 11547, 16561-14562 [2], 14568, 14573.
ERJ-145 Trans States (6/22) 802HK, 809HK-811HK [3], 835HK-836HK [2].
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex CO EX (109/116) 11535-11536 [2], 13538-11539 [2], 14543, 11548-14558 [11], 14562, 12564-12567 [4], 16571-15572 [2], 10575; 12900, 14902-29906 [5], 15910-16919 [10], 12921-12922 [2], 14925-14930 /15932-13975 [50], 14977-13981/15983-13988 [11], 14991-13992 [2], 11994-14998 [5].
ERJ-170 Shuttle America (13/38) 631RW-639RW [9], 641RW-642RW [2], 856RW-857RW [2].
CRJ-700 GoJet (19/25) 151GJ-169GJ [19].
CRJ-700 Mesa (7/20) 505MJ-506MJ [2], 508MJ, 510MJ, 512MJ-513MJ [2], 515MJ.
CRJ-700 SkyWest (29/70) 701SK-703SK [2], 705SK-710SK [6], 712SK-713SK [2], 715SK-716SK [2], 718SK-719SK [2], 724SK, 726SK-727SK [2], 730SK, 742SK-745SK [4], 750SK-752SK [3], 754SK, 763SK, 765SK-767SK [3].
CRJ-200 ASA, now Expressjet (3/14) 820AS, 829AS-829AS [2].
CRJ-200 SkyWest (47/63) 903SW, 905SW, 910SW, 912SW-913SW [2], 915SW-920SW [6], 923SW, 925SW-930SW [6], 932SW, 934SW-939SW [6], 941SW, 943SW, 945SW-946SW [2], 948SW, 952SW, 954SW, 956SW-965SW [10], 967SW, 969SW-971SW [4], 976SW, 979SW-980SW [2], 471CA.
Dash 8-400 ex Lynx (1/4) 507LX.
B1900D Silver Gulfstream (11/15) 81535-81536 [2]. 82539, 17541-47542 [2], 81546-69547 [2], 87551-87552 [2], 81556 -87557 [2].
EMB-120 SkyWest (0/25) [14 in UA blue paint, 11 in gray paint and 17 extra in SkyWest House Paint].
United Express - COMPLETED Total (162/162) = 100%
ERJ-145XR ExpressJet (104/104) COMPLETED.
ERJ-135LR ExpressJet (7/7) COMPLETED.
Dash 8-400 ex Colgan (28/28) COMPLETED - total to be confirmed.
Q200 CommutAir (16/16) COMPLETED.
Q300 CommutAir (5/5) COMPLETED.
ATR 42-320 (2/2) COMPLETED.
_______________________________________________
TOTAL (1096/1,307) = 83.85%
______________________________________________________________________________
INTERIOR MODIFICATIONS
New Airbus Interior Bins
A319 (1/55-1.81%) - 4026
A320 (4/98-4.08%) - 4258, 4275, 4293, 4295.
New First & Business Seats for former United International Widebodies
B744 (23/23-100%) - Complete
B763 (21/21-100%) - Complete
B763 (2 Cabin) (13/14=92.85%) : 664, 666-677 [12].
B772* (39/43=88.37%) : 204, 209, 216-229 [14], 769, 771, 773-778 [6], 780-785 [6], 787-788 [2], 792-795 [4], 797-798 [2] (6 aircraft #210-215 are in domestic configuration).
B772 HI/Dom Config (0/3-0%) [3 of remaining 7 - 768/772/779/786/791/796/799 may be reconfigured domestic]
TOTAL (96/104-90.47%)
* Includes 3-3-3 configuration in Y, United Forward/Rear facing, former UA, BusinessFirst Seats and Global First cabin
* 777 fleet reconfiguration should be complete by 2013.
New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for former Continental International fleet
B752 (41/41-100%); B764 (12/12- 100%) {Likely (0/4- 0%) former AirMike}; B772 (22/22-100%) = TOTAL (75/75-100%)
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 157, posted (4 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 16795 times:
Quoting n515cr (Reply 155): Some possible updates:
-PMUA 772 N799UA has been in PEK for a few days, mx or IPTE?
Thanks for the info. Must be ITPE.
735 probable fleet exit:
N14629 sked into HOU 6857/13Jan - most likely to exit fleet.
744 Maint:
N118UA entered PEK 1/5/13
752 ps reconfiguration:
Reported that N596UA is not close to completion and none of the others in IND will get ps configuratoion until N596UA is out the door.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 160, posted (4 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 16242 times:
Quoting UnitedTristar (Reply 158): Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 157):
Thanks for the info. Must be ITPE.
SFOMM was doing all IPTE that is not included in a heavy MX check, so they are not just doing IPTE, it's also heavy maintenance
-m
Thanks, and it surely is maintenance, but ITPE may be included. PEK was doing ITPE on 772s in Aug and Sep 12 and N799UA does need the retrofit. We'll know in 4 -7 weeks.
735 Fleet Exit:
N14628 ferried this morning 6868/14Jan IAH-HOU. This puts 4 735s in HOU, presumably all for fleet exit. N18622, N17627, N14629 & N14628.
772 ITPE:
N798UA sked for 857/16Jan
N786UA appears to be entering SFO from flight 886/15Jan - aircraft due a ITPE mod.
SonomaFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1171 posts, RR: 0 Reply 165, posted (4 months 2 days ago) and read 15207 times:
From another thread: It has to do with the fact the flight crews are not yet combined and with the 787 grounded, this flight will be run with a sUA crew on one of their 777s. The 787 is crewed by sCO employees. Once the merger of the groups is complete, this sort of thing will not likely need to occur.
As N118UA is in the old livery, does UA get their B744s painted in PEK? I have a flight coming up on one of them later in the year and really hope it's on one with the old colors.
As N118UA is in the old livery, does UA get their B744s painted in PEK? I have a flight coming up on one of them later in the year and really hope it's on one with the old colors.
I don't believe any sUA aircraft have been painted during heavy maintenance visits.
772 Paint:
N784UA Exited VCV 6863/17Jan -
So far VCV has not received a replacement aircraft into the paint line - maybe to cover for grounded 787s.
765 Maintenance:
N67052 sked to exit HKG 6849/19Jan
Don't see another aircraft cross ferrying. maybe to cover for 787s.
FriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4003 posts, RR: 6 Reply 168, posted (4 months 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 14813 times:
Quoting je89_w (Reply 166): I thought I had read that these 4 B764s will not be getting any interior retrofit. Does this imply otherwise?
I don't think there's been any official confirmation, but the consensus is that these remaining 764s will be converted to the new international config, and that 3 of the international (non-IPTE) sUA 772A's will be converted to a newer Hawaii/Domestic config (along with the 6 existing domestic 772As).
gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 171, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 14060 times:
Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 168): I don't think there's been any official confirmation, but the consensus is that these remaining 764s will be converted to the new international config, and that 3 of the international (non-IPTE) sUA 772A's will be converted to a newer Hawaii/Domestic config (along with the 6 existing domestic 772As).
After the quick decision to convert those similarly configured 763s to an international standard, I'm surprised they're willing to let more 777s go.
Sure, they're not ERs. But they can fly the US to Europe all day long, and hell they can fly to South America as well.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 172, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13848 times:
Quoting gigneil (Reply 171): Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 168):
I don't think there's been any official confirmation, but the consensus is that these remaining 764s will be converted to the new international config, and that 3 of the international (non-IPTE) sUA 772A's will be converted to a newer Hawaii/Domestic config (along with the 6 existing domestic 772As).
After the quick decision to convert those similarly configured 763s to an international standard, I'm surprised they're willing to let more 777s go.
Sure, they're not ERs. But they can fly the US to Europe all day long, and hell they can fly to South America as well.
NS
Sorry to disagree, but the 777s go where like the 763s went where? The 772s will go domestic while the 763s went international. More of a swap than both "let go".
First, the "quick" decision to convert the 763s was an easy one. Those aircraft, in need of reconfiguration and with nearly 6,000nm range, were being misused on West Coast-Hawaii and domestic legs when so many international opportunities are available with the merged carrier. sCO's 753s are a great replacement for the 763's Hawaiian operation (only dropping 31 seats).
I have stated before I think the swap of 772A for 764ER is a good one. The 772A have to go into mod in either case, but the swap provides about 90 extra seats to Hawaii with the 772A vs 764 and standardize long haul Hawaiian aircraft. On the other hand the 764ER, with the same range as the 772A only drops 24 total seats and standardizes 764ER as an international fleet. Sure, there's the loss of 8F seats, but most markets don't need F service.
Both the 763ER and 764ER with new international lie-flat configurations have been praised my most posts I've seen on this and other boards. The 763ER, 764ER and 772A reconfiguration and swaps are a winner for everyone except for the potential of selling up to 8 F seats on three aircraft.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 173, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 13796 times:
Widebody Paint:
763ER N657UA sked exit AMA 6860/21Jan
772 N218UA sked enter AMA 6860/21Jan. N218ua is in Star Paint. Will need engines, logo at a minimum. New Star paint seems to have a narrower "Star Alliance". N218UA could get a touch up, full Star or full Globe repaint.
752 Maint:
N559UA exited MIA 12/16/13
N561UA entered MIA 1/17/13
N516UA sked to exit IND 6880/21Jan - no ps reconfiguration
gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 174, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 13674 times:
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 172): Sorry to disagree, but the 777s go where like the 763s went where? The 772s will go domestic while the 763s went international. More of a swap than both "let go".
I'm not sure what you're even talking about or why you posted any of that, you're missing my point entirely
My point is that they couldn't get those 763s reconfigured and into international service fast enough, so I am surprised they are willing to reallocate these 777s to the Hawaii market rather than pursue international revenue with them.
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 172): Those aircraft, in need of reconfiguration and with nearly 6,000nm range, were being misused on West Coast-Hawaii and domestic legs when so many international opportunities are available with the merged carrier.
Which is in line with my point. Those 777s aren't exactly being used to their abilities either. Taking 3 additional ones out of international service and putting them on Hawaii seems like a big step to me.
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 172): Both the 763ER and 764ER with new international lie-flat configurations have been praised my most posts I've seen on this and other boards.
Of course they have. That's unrelated to my point.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 175, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 13530 times:
Quoting gigneil (Reply 174): Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 172):
Sorry to disagree, but the 777s go where like the 763s went where? The 772s will go domestic while the 763s went international. More of a swap than both "let go".
I'm not sure what you're even talking about or why you posted any of that, you're missing my point entirely
My point is that they couldn't get those 763s reconfigured and into international service fast enough, so I am surprised they are willing to reallocate these 777s to the Hawaii market rather than pursue international revenue with them.
Sorry if I misread your post and we seem to agree with at least the 763s.
I didn't see your point, rather read your post about a quick decision with the 763s coupled with keeping the 777s on international as seeming to oppose both moves.
Regarding the 777s, I support the swap to Hawaiian configuration as the limit of the aircraft is EWR-HNL (same for the 764ER). Three 777s in trade for 4 764ERs adds an international aircraft. Assume the SFO-HNL that has operated with 764ER would go 753, providing the extra international aircraft. There is a commonality and maintenance benefit of having at least 6 of 9 772A units in HNL at the same time every day (IAD/ORD/EWR/IAH/SFO/GUM).
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 176, posted (3 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 13314 times:
738 Unknown Maintenance at INT:
N33203 Entered INT 6862/20Jan
N24202 Exited INT 6863/20Jan.
Both have DTV & E+. INT seemed to be announced as a Mod facility, but work could be Heavy Maint. or potentially WiFi??
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 178, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 12727 times:
Quoting n515cr (Reply 177): Looks like 772 N799UA is out of mod and back in service in the old config operating UAL850 tomorrow, likely due to the 787 grounding.
Bummer if that's the case - she's been there since 1/11/13 - not enough time for ITPE conversion - maybe was just sked maint. I don't see a cross ferry, so another sUA772 should be sitting in HKG.
Quoting n515cr (Reply 177): Also looks like 772 N768UA did a test hop at SFO earlier today, but I didn't see a seat map on ua.com...so not sure what its status is.
N768UA is one of three Old Intl configured 772A units - expected to be converted to Hawaiian config. Been in SFO since 12/26, maybe enough time to reconfig, depending on the complexity. Test hope has indicated potential WiFi testing, however.
Maint movements:
752 Maint: N516UA exited IND 6859/22Jan (maint only)
763ER Maint: N641UA to ferry SFO-HNL 7958/23 & HNL-HKG (three class aircraft)
tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6171 posts, RR: 9 Reply 179, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 12731 times:
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 178): 768UA is one of three Old Intl configured 772A units - expected to be converted to Hawaiian config. Been in SFO since 12/26, maybe enough time to reconfig, depending on the complexity. Test hope has indicated potential WiFi testing, however.
My question is why no AVOD? The 3 have looping PTVs as is, it seems like a step backwards in the reconfiguration process.
"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
CODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2166 posts, RR: 8 Reply 180, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 12706 times:
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 172): I have stated before I think the swap of 772A for 764ER is a good one. The 772A have to go into mod in either case, but the swap provides about 90 extra seats to Hawaii with the 772A vs 764 and standardize long haul Hawaiian aircraft. On the other hand the 764ER, with the same range as the 772A only drops 24 total seats and standardizes 764ER as an international fleet. Sure, there's the loss of 8F seats, but most markets don't need F service.
Quoting gigneil (Reply 174): My point is that they couldn't get those 763s reconfigured and into international service fast enough, so I am surprised they are willing to reallocate these 777s to the Hawaii market rather than pursue international revenue with them.
Reconfiguring the domestic 777s is not so much about the Hawaii-Mainland market as it is about Guam to Hawaii and Japan. Replacing the 767s on GUM-HNL with domestic 777s resulted in a major increase of cargo and pax capacity, which the market needed, but was a downgrade in product quality, e.g., loss of PTVs, power and the BusinessFirst product. Reconfiguring the domestic ships plus two of the old three-cabin birds allows UA to avoid adding an orphan 4th 777 configuration, bring a higher-quality product to a hugely successful monopoly route (HNL-GUM) that has been demanding it since the 767s left and offer an improved product on long-haul mainland routes from HNL as an upsell opportunity.
The 763ERs cannot move anywhere near the same amount of cargo as a 777 and operate in a lower-density configuration than would be necessary for the GUM operation. Their reconfiguration was more about growth and replacing the sCO 762s than anything else.
FriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4003 posts, RR: 6 Reply 181, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 12679 times:
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 178): N768UA is one of three Old Intl configured 772A units - expected to be converted to Hawaiian config. Been in SFO since 12/26, maybe enough time to reconfig, depending on the complexity. Test hope has indicated potential WiFi testing, however.
Wasn't the plan to install the old p.s. business seats? Since as far as we know, none of these have been converted, I would wager that none of the 777s have had a new domestic config done yet either. Although I'm not sure why they couldn't use the old international business seats, they are almost identical to the p.s. seats (albeit older).
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 182, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 12407 times:
Quoting n515cr (Reply 177): Also looks like 772 N768UA did a test hop at SFO earlier today, but I didn't see a seat map on ua.com...so not sure what its status is.
Seat map shows old international configuration
Quoting CODC10 (Reply 180): Reconfiguring the domestic 777s is not so much about the Hawaii-Mainland market as it is about Guam to Hawaii and Japan.
Great post - 772A for GUM-HNL/NRT
Quoting FriendlySkies (Reply 181): Wasn't the plan to install the old p.s. business seats? Since as far as we know, none of these have been converted, I would wager that none of the 777s have had a new domestic config done yet either. Although I'm not sure why they couldn't use the old international business seats, they are almost identical to the p.s. seats (albeit older).
None of the 6 current or 3 to be converted 3 in old international configuration have been reconfigured. The old ps seat was discussed a while back on this board, but it looks like the 7 across business seat on the old international configuration will be placed up front. This should be a low cost conversion with no new seats needed. Sure, no AVOD or lie flats, but Hawaii and GUM are considered domestic. Yet to see any concrete plans.
319 New Bins: Reported that N849UA has new bins and that WiFi is not operational
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16250 posts, RR: 52 Reply 183, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12180 times:
UA released their latest 2013 fleet plan:
22 757s leaving the fleet (have to be all sUA)
2 787-8s added to the fleet
16 737-900ERs added to the fleet
2 737s (500s) leaving the fleet
5 767s (200s) leaving the fleet
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 184, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12125 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 183): UA released their latest 2013 fleet plan:
22 757s leaving the fleet (have to be all sUA)
2 787-8s added to the fleet
16 737-900ERs added to the fleet
2 737s (500s) leaving the fleet
5 767s (200s) leaving the fleet
Thanks for the update, but are you sure on the 735s? Looking at the chart, with 737s all lumped together It could be that all 735s are leaving, balanced by more new 739ERs than 16.
Also, the Express fleet will grow with the addition of 16 larger than 50 seat aircraft. According to the chart (Q400, CRJ 700, EMB 170). This should help address the reduction of 10 total mainline aircraft.
There was a list of sUA752s circulating in 2012. It showed 17 current 752s of various age - N544UA, one of the first on the list, was repainted recently. Three others on that list, N527UA along with p.s. units N517UA and N532UA are still in UA Blue paint. Maybe those three will be the 3 listed in Q1, but I'd suspect the p.s. aircraft need replacement by newly reconfigured p.s. aircraft - N596UA in IND.
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 185, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 12144 times:
Quoting STT757 (Reply 183): 16 737-900ERs added to the fleet
Think its 19 737-900ERs actually...the 5 active 737-500s should leave the fleet this year. YE2013 mainline should look like...
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 186, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 12101 times:
tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6171 posts, RR: 9 Reply 187, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12010 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 186): 24...per the conference call actually.... to many 737s to keep track.
Wonderful. Are they going to have the back breaking seats installed on the new 739s as well?
"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 188, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 12034 times:
Quoting tommy767 (Reply 187): Are they going to have the back breaking seats installed on the new 739s as well?
The "backbreaking seats" are the Koito ones....can't install those. UA has been installing BE slimline on its newest 737s IIRC.
FriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4003 posts, RR: 6 Reply 189, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 12009 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 188): UA has been installing BE slimline on its newest 737s IIRC.
Which, to be fair, have not received stellar reviews either.
tommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6171 posts, RR: 9 Reply 191, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 11659 times:
Anybody know if the 12 non-er 739s are regulated to certain routes? Is there a future for these birds when compared to the ERs?
"Folks that's the news and I'm outta here!" -- Dennis Miller
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 192, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 11635 times:
Quoting tommy767 (Reply 191): Anybody know if the 12 non-er 739s are regulated to certain routes?
Outside of not flying transcon not really....3401 has been all over the system over the last few days. Seems like EWR-LAs is about the longest flight UA scheduled it on.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 193, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 11593 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 185): Think its 19 737-900ERs actually...the 5 active 737-500s should leave the fleet this year. YE2013 mainline should look like...
I concur with your numbers on the YE2013 fleet. However, it would be +22 739ERs for 2013: 3401-3464 (64) on property, 3465 delivered in 2013 plus 21 more=22. That would match your 86 total 739s YE2013
With 8 735s leaving, 737 net YE2013 is +14 (238 goes to 252) 739 +22, 735 -8 = +14
I think the following is the 739ER and 735 mix to match the numbers by Quarter.
1st Qtr (total 737 fleet +4 end of quarter)
735 -3 (there are three sitting in HOU right now)
739ER +7
2nd Qtr (total 737 fleet -2 at end of quarter)
735 -5 (fleet would be gone
739ER +3
3rd Qtr & 4th Qtr (total 737 fleet +6 at end of each quarter)
739ER +6 each quarter
Quoting tommy767 (Reply 191): Anybody know if the 12 non-er 739s are regulated to certain routes? Is there a future for these birds when compared to the ERs?
These units have been flying for 11 to 12 years on non-TATL flights without any problems to my knowledge. The more ERs UA receives, the less of an issue scheduling the 739A aircraft - there are scores of ORD and IAH flights to either coast doable with the 739A. i don't see them going anywhere.
Quoting United1 (Reply 190): On a completely unrelated note per the call today there are around 70 Airbi with the new bins.
Great to hear, wish we could identify which ship numbers.
United1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5337 posts, RR: 8 Reply 194, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 11598 times:
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 193): concur with your numbers on the YE2013 fleet. However, it would be +22 739ERs
Conference call this morning states 24 737--900ERs and 2 787-8s....I agree with the math you did so clearly something is a little out of whack.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 195, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 11585 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 194): Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 193):
concur with your numbers on the YE2013 fleet. However, it would be +22 739ERs
Conference call this morning states 24 737--900ERs and 2 787-8s....I agree with the math you did so clearly something is a little out of whack.
Well, there's something going on with the math. How about this to try and clarify?
Assume the 735s go away. If any 735s stay then the 739ER numbers would be lower, not greater than 22. Could the conference call meant 24 new aircraft of which 2 are 788s?
From Fleet Plan
YE 2012 238 total 737s -8 735s = 230 (non735 units)
YE 2013 252total 737s -230 (non-735 units YE2012) =22 new deliveries (all 739ERs)
NOTE: posted this on 772 wings clipping in IAD thread:
UA is getting into a crunch with widebodies with the 788 issue. In fact, probably unrelated, but I see 762ER N73152, which was pulled from service and in MCO for an exit package is now ferrying to EWR 6877/25Jan, then sked on 134/25Jan EWR-ZRH. I guess they hadn't pulled anything out of the aircraft or painted over the name.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16250 posts, RR: 52 Reply 196, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11468 times:
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 195): UA is getting into a crunch with widebodies with the 788 issue. In fact, probably unrelated, but I see 762ER N73152, which was pulled from service and in MCO for an exit package is now ferrying to EWR 6877/25Jan, then sked on 134/25Jan EWR-ZRH. I guess they hadn't pulled anything out of the aircraft or painted over the name.
I think it would be quite prudent to hold on to the last five 762s, if they're still available, at least through one more peak Summer season. Just to protect the current schedule and from further 787 delays. Even if the 787 returns to service next week they should hold onto the 762s just in case something else arises, keep them going through the end of the year. Send the bill to Boeing.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16250 posts, RR: 52 Reply 197, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11490 times:
Related to UA's fleet, they broke ground on the new hangar at EWR. This is their third Widebody hangar at EWR:
They also have two narrowbody hangars that handle everything up to the 757. That gives them five aircraft bays, there's also the former sUA hangar that I'm wondering if they might take over. sUA used to work on 757s (their own and HP's) up until their bankruptcy.
Transpac787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 3139 posts, RR: 14 Reply 198, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 11268 times:
Quoting United1 (Reply 192): Outside of not flying transcon not really
Though to be clear, they *can* fly transcons. Whether or not they take a weight restriction is not a question I could answer, but the planes DO show up on the routes, occasionally.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 199, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 11036 times:
744 Paint:
N107UA sked to enter VCV 6859/26Jan
772 Maint:
N78003 Exited HKG 116/25Jan
N74007 Entered HKG 117/23Jan
N799UA Exited PEK 850/23Jan without ITPE mod - maint only
757 Maint:
752 N566UA sked to enter GSO 6880/28Jan
753 N57855 sked to exit HKG 6850 & 6849/27Jan
320 New bins:
Reported that N491UA has new bins installed
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 201, posted (3 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 10674 times:
753 DTV/E+:
N75853 (domestic non-ETOPS) sked to exit INT 6851/27Jan
I don't see 1 of 3 remaining w/o DTV/E+ sked in to INT at this time.
744 Paint:
N107UA sked to enter VCV 6859/26Jan
THIS FLIGHT WAS CANCELLED TODAY. Aircraft still in SFO according to FlightAware.
n515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 237 posts, RR: 0 Reply 202, posted (3 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 10543 times:
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 201): I don't see 1 of 3 remaining w/o DTV/E+ sked in to INT at this time.
Looks like N57857 went to INT...arrived in IAH Jan 26 and UA 6863 flew IAH-INT a few hours later. It didn't show up on ua.com when I looked. All the other 753's appear to be in flight or are scheduled to fly soon.
n515cr From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 237 posts, RR: 0 Reply 203, posted (3 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10104 times:
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 201): 744 Paint:
N107UA sked to enter VCV 6859/26Jan
THIS FLIGHT WAS CANCELLED TODAY. Aircraft still in SFO according to FlightAware.
Looks like 772 N795UA may have taken its place. Flight aware shows a 772 arrived earlier today as UA 6860 and 795 arrived in SFO yesterday.
durangomac From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 586 posts, RR: 0 Reply 205, posted (3 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 9309 times:
OO Update:
CRJ-700:
743SK in ROW 1/26 for paint
774SK in ROW 1/26 for paint
768SK in ROW 1/29 for paint
qfatwa From Australia, joined Jun 1999, 710 posts, RR: 0 Reply 206, posted (3 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 9019 times:
Very few recent changes but have updated to keep current.
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 157): 735 probable fleet exit:N14629 sked into HOU 6857/13Jan - most likely to exit fleet.
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 160): 735 Fleet Exit:N14628 ferried this morning 6868/14Jan IAH-HOU. This puts 4 735s in HOU, presumably all for fleet exit. N18622, N17627, N14629 & N14628.
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 161): 739ER New Delivery:N37465 Exited MCO 6849/16 - has E+, but no IFE
Quoting durangomac (Reply 169): OO Update:CRJ-700 728SK in ROW 1/16 for Paint771SK IN ROW 1/16 for Paint
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 173): Widebody Paint: 763ER N657UA sked exit AMA 6860/21Jan772 N218UA sked enter AMA 6860/21Jan. N218ua is in Star Paint. Will need engines, logo at a minimum. New Star paint seems to have a narrower "Star Alliance". N218UA could get a touch up, full Star or full Globe repaint.
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 182): 319 New Bins: Reported that N849UA has new bins and that WiFi is not operational
Quoting n515cr (Reply 200): Silver Beech 1900 N87552 (new colors) sold Jan 18.
Quoting CALPSAFltSkeds (Reply 199): 320 New bins:
Reported that N491UA has new bins installed
Quoting n515cr (Reply 203): New delivery a/c 3466 N37466 almost in MCO flight # 6854
Quoting durangomac (Reply 205): OO Update:
CRJ-700:
743SK in ROW 1/26 for paint
774SK in ROW 1/26 for paint
768SK in ROW 1/29 for paint
739 - N38467 had first flight.
___________________________________________________________________________________________
United - Mainline COMPLETED : Total (503/503) = 100%
A319 (55/55)
A320 (97/97)
B735 (8/8)
B73G (36/36)
B738 (130/130)
B739 (67/67) [entering fleet, one tail in CO Retro Livery].
B752 (41/41) former CO
B753 (21/21) .
B762 (4/4)
B764 (16/16)
B772 (22/22) former CO
B787 (6/6) 901-906 [entering fleet].
____________________________________________________
United Express - Total Express REMAINING (265/441)
ERJ-145 Chautauqua (2/8) 267SK, 288SK.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex UA EX two blue (7/22) 16541, 11544, 11547, 16561-14562 [2], 14568, 14573.
ERJ-145 Trans States (6/22) 802HK, 809HK-811HK [3], 835HK-836HK [2].
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex CO EX (109/116) 11535-11536 [2], 13538-11539 [2], 14543, 11548-14558 [11], 14562, 12564-12567 [4], 16571-15572 [2], 10575; 12900, 14902-29906 [5], 15910-16919 [10], 12921-12922 [2], 14925-14930 /15932-13975 [50], 14977-13981/15983-13988 [11], 14991-13992 [2], 11994-14998 [5].
ERJ-170 Shuttle America (13/38) 631RW-639RW [9], 641RW-642RW [2], 856RW-857RW [2].
CRJ-700 GoJet (19/25) 151GJ-169GJ [19].
CRJ-700 Mesa (7/20) 505MJ-506MJ [2], 508MJ, 510MJ, 512MJ-513MJ [2], 515MJ.
CRJ-700 SkyWest (33/70) 701SK-703SK [2], 705SK-710SK [6], 712SK-713SK [2], 715SK-716SK [2], 718SK-719SK [2], 724SK, 726SK-728SK [3], 730SK, 742SK-745SK [4], 750SK-752SK [3], 754SK, 763SK, 765SK-768SK [4], 771SK, 774SK..
CRJ-200 ASA, now Expressjet (3/14) 820AS, 829AS-829AS [2].
CRJ-200 SkyWest (47/63) 903SW, 905SW, 910SW, 912SW-913SW [2], 915SW-920SW [6], 923SW, 925SW-930SW [6], 932SW, 934SW-939SW [6], 941SW, 943SW, 945SW-946SW [2], 948SW, 952SW, 954SW, 956SW-965SW [10], 967SW, 969SW-971SW [4], 976SW, 979SW-980SW [2], 471CA.
Dash 8-400 ex Lynx (1/4) 507LX.
B1900D Silver Gulfstream (10/14) 81535-81536 [2]. 82539, 17541-47542 [2], 81546-69547 [2], 87551, 81556 -87557 [2].
EMB-120 SkyWest (0/25) [14 in UA blue paint, 11 in gray paint and 17 extra in SkyWest House Paint].
United Express - COMPLETED Total (162/162) = 100%
ERJ-145XR ExpressJet (104/104) COMPLETED.
ERJ-135LR ExpressJet (7/7) COMPLETED.
Dash 8-400 ex Colgan (28/28) COMPLETED - total to be confirmed.
Q200 CommutAir (16/16) COMPLETED.
Q300 CommutAir (5/5) COMPLETED.
ATR 42-320 (2/2) COMPLETED.
_______________________________________________
TOTAL (1100/1,308) = 84.09%
______________________________________________________________________________
INTERIOR MODIFICATIONS
New Airbus Interior Bins
A319 (1/55-1.81%) - 4026, N849UA
A320 (4/98-4.08%) - 4258, 4275, 4291, 4293, 4295.
New First & Business Seats for former United International Widebodies
B744 (23/23-100%) - Complete
B763 (21/21-100%) - Complete
B763 (2 Cabin) (13/14=92.85%) : 664, 666-677 [12].
B772* (39/43=88.37%) : 204, 209, 216-229 [14], 769, 771, 773-778 [6], 780-785 [6], 787-788 [2], 792-795 [4], 797-798 [2] (6 aircraft #210-215 are in domestic configuration).
B772 HI/Dom Config (0/3-0%) [3 of remaining 7 - 768/772/779/786/791/796/799 may be reconfigured domestic]
TOTAL (96/104-90.47%)
* Includes 3-3-3 configuration in Y, United Forward/Rear facing, former UA, BusinessFirst Seats and Global First cabin
* 777 fleet reconfiguration should be complete by 2013.
New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for former Continental International fleet
B752 (41/41-100%); B764 (12/12- 100%) {Likely (0/4- 0%) former AirMike}; B772 (22/22-100%) = TOTAL (75/75-100%)
Also, I've been trying to do some clean-up on my own records and thought I'd post here in case it's useful to others.
Quoting qfatwa (Reply 156): ERJ-145 Trans States (6/22) 802HK, 809HK-811HK [3], 835HK-836HK [2].
Per Planespotters.net, N803HK and N804HK went to IBC Airways in July/Aug 2012. That would bring this total down to 20 frames if that info is correct. I could be wrong though. Tracking the fleet turnover at regionals from the outside isn't particularly easy.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 208, posted (3 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8914 times:
Back from a few days in Cabo
Flew on A320 retrojet SFO-SJD.
753 Maint:
N77871 Exited GSO 6853/29Jan
N745856 Entered MIA 6856/31Jan
738 Maint/Mod? at INT
N33203 Exited INT 6860/31Jan
N35204 Entered INT 6859/31Jan
752 Maint
N564 to Exit SFO 400/1Feb - unknown what work was done - entered 12/25/12
735 Fleet exit
N18622 ferried AUS-MCC-HNL-MAJ-BIK
738 DTV
First hand report from a fyler on 738 N87527 that it does indeed have DTV installed. No E+
Antoniemey From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 1503 posts, RR: 4 Reply 209, posted (3 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8856 times:
Quoting qfatwa (Reply 206): ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex CO EX (109/116)
THREE of the ones that still say COEx are overnighting at BNA right now...
Make something Idiot-proof, and the Universe will make a more inept idiot.
qfatwa From Australia, joined Jun 1999, 710 posts, RR: 0 Reply 210, posted (3 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 8616 times:
Quoting n515cr (Reply 207): Per Planespotters.net, N803HK and N804HK went to IBC Airways in July/Aug 2012. That would bring this total down to 20 frames if that info is correct. I could be wrong though. Tracking the fleet turnover at regionals from the outside isn't particularly easy.
Thanks n515cr - I checked the N registration database and neither are current. I'li include in the next update.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 211, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8559 times:
744 Paint:
N107UA just landed at VCV 6853/1Feb from SFO
WiFi:
Noticed these aircraft have WiFi installed and operating
744: N104UA
A319: Work now appears to be at IND: N802UA, N803UA, N804UA, N805UA, N806UA, N808UA, N809UA, N811UA
These not shown as on: N810UA is in IND, N813UA exited IND - N807UA should have WiFi, but not shown on Flight Status
qfatwa From Australia, joined Jun 1999, 710 posts, RR: 0 Reply 213, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 8133 times:
Quoting n515cr (Reply 207): N795UA is in for paint. One 777 (N775UA) to go.
Quoting n515cr (Reply 207): Per Planespotters.net, N803HK and N804HK went to IBC Airways in July/Aug 2012. That would bring this total down to 20 frames if that info is correct. I could be wrong though. Tracking the fleet turnover at regionals from the outside isn't particularly easy.
Quoting Jaxs170 (Reply 212): ExpressJet CRJ side: N827AS and N835AS are in the new color scheme. It should say N829AS and N830AS are painted (it says N829 twice).
United - Mainline REMAINING = 29 [3 x 752 not to be painted] : Total (173/202).
B744 (11/23) 104, 107, 116-117 [2], 119, 127-128 [2], 177, 180, 197, 199. [One in Charter Livery]
B752 (89/92) [former UA] 502-516 [15], 518-526 [9], 528-530 [3], 533-541/543-581/584-590/592-598 [62]. Remaining unlikely to be repainted - planned for fleet exit soon.
B763 (22/35) 643-644 [2], 647, 652-653 [2], 656-657 [2], 663-677 [15].
B772 (51/52) [former UA] 204, 206, 209-217 [9], 219-229 [11], 768-769 [2], 771-774 [4], 776-788 [13], 791-799 [9],
United - Mainline COMPLETED : Total (503/503) = 100%
A319 (55/55)
A320 (97/97)
B735 (8/8)
B73G (36/36)
B738 (130/130)
B739 (67/67) [entering fleet, one tail in CO Retro Livery].
B752 (41/41) former CO
B753 (21/21) .
B762 (4/4)
B764 (16/16)
B772 (22/22) former CO
B787 (6/6) 901-906 [entering fleet].
____________________________________________________
United Express - Total Express REMAINING (267/439)
ERJ-145 Chautauqua (2/8) 267SK, 288SK.
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex UA EX two blue (7/22) 16541, 11544, 11547, 16561-14562 [2], 14568, 14573.
ERJ-145 Trans States (6/20) 802HK, 809HK-811HK [3], 835HK-836HK [2].
ERJ-145 ExpressJet ex CO EX (109/116) 11535-11536 [2], 13538-11539 [2], 14543, 11548-14558 [11], 14562, 12564-12567 [4], 16571-15572 [2], 10575; 12900, 14902-29906 [5], 15910-16919 [10], 12921-12922 [2], 14925-14930 /15932-13975 [50], 14977-13981/15983-13988 [11], 14991-13992 [2], 11994-14998 [5].
ERJ-170 Shuttle America (13/38) 631RW-639RW [9], 641RW-642RW [2], 856RW-857RW [2].
CRJ-700 GoJet (19/25) 151GJ-169GJ [19].
CRJ-700 Mesa (7/20) 505MJ-506MJ [2], 508MJ, 510MJ, 512MJ-513MJ [2], 515MJ.
CRJ-700 SkyWest (33/70) 701SK-703SK [2], 705SK-710SK [6], 712SK-713SK [2], 715SK-716SK [2], 718SK-719SK [2], 724SK, 726SK-728SK [3], 730SK, 742SK-745SK [4], 750SK-752SK [3], 754SK, 763SK, 765SK-768SK [4], 771SK, 774SK..
CRJ-200 ASA, now Expressjet (5/14) 820AS, 829AS, 829AS-830AS [2], 835AS.
CRJ-200 SkyWest (47/63) 903SW, 905SW, 910SW, 912SW-913SW [2], 915SW-920SW [6], 923SW, 925SW-930SW [6], 932SW, 934SW-939SW [6], 941SW, 943SW, 945SW-946SW [2], 948SW, 952SW, 954SW, 956SW-965SW [10], 967SW, 969SW-971SW [4], 976SW, 979SW-980SW [2], 471CA.
Dash 8-400 ex Lynx (1/4) 507LX.
B1900D Silver Gulfstream (10/14) 81535-81536 [2]. 82539, 17541-47542 [2], 81546-69547 [2], 87551, 81556 -87557 [2].
EMB-120 SkyWest (0/25) [14 in UA blue paint, 11 in gray paint and 17 extra in SkyWest House Paint].
United Express - COMPLETED Total (162/162) = 100%
ERJ-145XR ExpressJet (104/104) COMPLETED.
ERJ-135LR ExpressJet (7/7) COMPLETED.
Dash 8-400 ex Colgan (28/28) COMPLETED - total to be confirmed.
Q200 CommutAir (16/16) COMPLETED.
Q300 CommutAir (5/5) COMPLETED.
ATR 42-320 (2/2) COMPLETED.
_______________________________________________
TOTAL (1104/1,306) = 84.53%
______________________________________________________________________________
INTERIOR MODIFICATIONS
New Airbus Interior Bins
A319 (2/55-3.63%) - 4026, 4049.
A320 (4/98-4.08%) - 4258, 4275, 4291, 4293, 4295.
New First & Business Seats for former United International Widebodies
B744 (23/23-100%) - Complete
B763 (21/21-100%) - Complete
B763 (2 Cabin) (13/14=92.85%) : 664, 666-677 [12].
B772* (39/43=88.37%) : 204, 209, 216-229 [14], 769, 771, 773-778 [6], 780-785 [6], 787-788 [2], 792-795 [4], 797-798 [2] (6 aircraft #210-215 are in domestic configuration).
B772 HI/Dom Config (0/3-0%) [3 of remaining 7 - 768/772/779/786/791/796/799 may be reconfigured domestic]
TOTAL (96/104-90.47%)
* Includes 3-3-3 configuration in Y, United Forward/Rear facing, former UA, BusinessFirst Seats and Global First cabin
* 777 fleet reconfiguration should be complete by 2013.
New BusinessFirst Lie Flat Seats for former Continental International fleet
B752 (41/41-100%); B764 (12/12- 100%) {Likely (0/4- 0%) former AirMike}; B772 (22/22-100%) = TOTAL (75/75-100%)
Economy Plus conversion
COMPLETED - 772; 764 (Four Hawaii aircraft not included); 752; 73G (Four Micronesia aircraft not included); 735.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 214, posted (3 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 7909 times:
New bin update from reports confirming new bins (total observed on Airbus aircraft)
A319: 4026, 4029, 4049
A320: 4249, 4656, 4258, 4285, 4287, 4291, 4293, 4295, 4298
Note: 4275 (retro jet) - I flew on this aircraft and it doesn't have new bins
772 Paint:
N218UA sked to exit AMA 6858/3Feb - Who can confirm if it's in Star or Globe Paint?????? Was in UA Star
763ER maint: N641UA sked to exit HKG 6868/4Feb after reported avionics upgrade
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 215, posted (3 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 7739 times:
Add 320 N466UA to new bins observed
319 WiFi at IND:
N813UA sked to exit 6860/3Feb
N815UA sked to enter 6859/3Feb
Reported that recent delivery 739ER N39463 has working power. If true, it could be newest deliveries starting with as far back as N37456 may have power from the factory - last 11 units, with E+ are all waiting for DTV installation.
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 216, posted (3 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 7363 times:
772 Paint:
Anyone near ORD?
N218UA ETA ORD 10:53 CST flight 6878/4Feb AMA-ORD
Aircraft has new paint. Was in Star with UA logo. Question is if in Globe or Star scheme?
CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2201 posts, RR: 8 Reply 220, posted (3 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 6633 times:
763ER 2 class lie flat intl upgrade:
N665UA sked to exit