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ORD/MDW To Obama? Inevitable?  
User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3171 posts, RR: 5
Posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 14535 times:

Starters...I don't care about politics, so let's not get lost in the weeds.

Several US Presidents have airports named after them. Usually a historic President or a hometown President.

In the case of Obama, you have the nations first African American President...and he is very closely linked to his hometown of Chicago. He also seems to be very popular there and the current Mayor is Obama's former Chief of Staff.

Do we forsee a name change of either airport over the next decade? If so, which airport?

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User currently offlineiFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 433 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 14549 times:

Neither, they're already named after historical figures/events, no need to add Obama to it. (I like Obama but give him am airport somewhere else)


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21085 posts, RR: 56
Reply 2, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 14527 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Thread starter):
Do we forsee a name change of either airport over the next decade? If so, which airport?

I'd doubt it, actually. O'Hare and Midway's names are both so well-known that I have a hard time thinking the city would go along with the change.

-Mir



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User currently offlineredzeppelin From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 498 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 14461 times:

Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 1):
Neither, they're already named after historical figures/events, no need to add Obama to it.

Agreed.
Both airports have names associated with World War 2, and it would be hard to find anybody with the political will to change them. But what about HNL? HNL to me is the obvious future Barack Obama International Airport.

[Edited 2012-12-10 19:40:05]


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User currently offlineiFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 433 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 14425 times:

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 3):
HNL to me is obvious future Barack Obama International Airport.

That would be perfect! The tea party will certainly push for it to be NBO though.



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User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3171 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 14336 times:

African American President overrides WW2 in a city that is overwhelmingly minority in terms of political will.

Case in point Atlanta Hartsfield...doesn't that have Jackson in it now?


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6942 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 14310 times:

I can see it being O'hare/Obama international in the future, but nothing that removes O'Hare from ORD. Midway's name isn't going nowhere.

It's almost like how nobody calls it the "Willis Tower." I tell a foreigner when they visit Chicago "Hey did you visit the Willis Tower?" and they give me a confused look until I say "Sears Tower." Then they know what I'm saying.



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User currently onlinebond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5342 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 14288 times:

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 3):
But what about HNL? HNL to me is obvious future Barack Obama International Airport.

...or Lagos  

Bear in mind, very few airports are named after people still alive.

NO do not hijack this thread into a list of airports that were named after live people.....but that will happen, and I will reply with rolled eyes !



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User currently offlinecrj900lr From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 14281 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 5):
Case in point Atlanta Hartsfield...doesn't that have Jackson in it now?

True, but what would the name be then if they decided to somehow incorporate Obama's name into either MDW or ORD's name?


User currently offlineiFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 433 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 14224 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 6):
It's almost like how nobody calls it the "Willis Tower." I tell a foreigner when they visit Chicago "Hey did you visit the Willis Tower?" and they give me a confused look until I say "Sears Tower." Then they know what I'm saying.

This along with people still calling U.S. Cellular Field Comiskey Park just goes to show how much we don't like change here in Chicago.

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 5):
African American President overrides WW2 in a city that is overwhelmingly minority in terms of political will.

It still doesn't add up to a change. The only chance I see Obama having for a Chicago airport named for him is the proposed third airport, and chances of that happening are still slim.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24061 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 14223 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Thread starter):
Several US Presidents have airports named after them.

Considering that Obama is the 44th President, the number of airports named for them is fairly small.
http://www.presidentsusa.net/airports.html

Canada has had 22 Prime Ministers (22 different people; a few served more than once) and if memory correct, 4 have airports named for them (Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Saskatoon).


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15459 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 14170 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Thread starter):
ORD/MDW To Obama? Inevitable?  

Considering the state of budgets in Chicago and Illinois, they should take a page from sports teams and sell naming rights to Midway to the highest bidder.

Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 9):
This along with people still calling U.S. Cellular Field Comiskey Park just goes to show how much we don't like change here in Chicago.

Well, there are certain people who refer to it as Cominskey Field.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPUhulaRzpU

Of course, this is changing as now it seems most people refer to it as US Cellular. If you talk about Comiskey Park people will probably assume you're talking about the old stadium.



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User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4482 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 14133 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 6):
I can see it being O'hare/Obama international in the future, but nothing that removes O'Hare from ORD. Midway's name isn't going nowhere.

It's almost like how nobody calls it the "Willis Tower." I tell a foreigner when they visit Chicago "Hey did you visit the Willis Tower?" and they give me a confused look until I say "Sears Tower." Then they know what I'm saying.

I could definitely see that. Chicago O'Hare-Obama International Airport. Though I do like the idea of Honolulu a bit more.

Whenever I'm in Chicago my friends and people there always just seem to call it the "former Sears tower" unless they end up working in the building itself.



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User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2026 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 14136 times:

I say give DCA to Obama and rename ONT or LGB after Reagan. Most DC residents detest Ronald Reagan and were very upset when congress renamed their airport after him, so it would be a win-win.

User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2026 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 14049 times:

Quoting Jerseyguy (Reply 14):
So Obama is the first Black president, that makes him worthy of an airport?

Who said that (other than you)? If Reagan, Bill and Hillary Clinton, George Bush No. 1 and Gerald Ford can have airports named after them so can President Obama.


User currently offlineViajero From Mexico, joined Aug 2008, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 13954 times:
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From an outside perspective, I agree with others here that Chicago's airports will not likely be renamed, however, I feel that Barack Obama will have an airport named after him somewhere in the U.S. Due to recent history, most presidents since Reagan have been honored in such a way, with the exception of George W. Bush. IIRC, the airport in Little Rock, Arkansas is now named after Bill AND Hillary Clinton. HNL would be a good choice due to Obama's childhood history.

User currently offlineiFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 433 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 13938 times:

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 15):
Who said that (other than you)?
Quoting jfklganyc (Thread starter):
In the case of Obama, you have the nations first African American President
Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 5):
African American President overrides WW2 in a city that is overwhelmingly minority in terms of political will.

It was the reasoning from the very beginning.  



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User currently offlineSixtySeven From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 319 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 13912 times:

Funny this about Reagan. When I used to fly to DCA after the name changed from National, the ATC guys would not acknowledge the name change. Their beef with RR was that deep. If you asked a second time on check in they'd say something like "This is Washington national tower, cleared to land."

Would not even acknowledge Reagan's name. They hate him and always will.



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5953 posts, RR: 17
Reply 18, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 13875 times:

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 15):

Whats the official name of LIT? When was this?



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User currently onlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9958 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 13817 times:

Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 9):
This along with people still calling U.S. Cellular Field Comiskey Park just goes to show how much we don't like change here in Chicago.

I still call the, now, Energy Solutions Arena (what a hokey name) in SLC, the Delta Center and probably always will.

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 15):
Who said that (other than you)? If Reagan, Bill and Hillary Clinton, George Bush No. 1 and Gerald Ford can have airports named after them so can President Obama.

I think it was the thread starter, from the beginning....

Quoting jfklganyc (Thread starter):
In the case of Obama, you have the nations first African American President
Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 5):
African American President overrides WW2 in a city that is overwhelmingly minority in terms of political will

I'm not trying to make this political, but to link a Medal of Honor winner with Obama is just wrong.



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User currently offlineViajero From Mexico, joined Aug 2008, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 13776 times:
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Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 19):
Whats the official name of LIT? When was this?

Bill and Hillary Clinton National / Adams Field. Happened this year.


User currently offlineBeardown91737 From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 429 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 13431 times:

Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 9):
This along with people still calling U.S. Cellular Field Comiskey Park just goes to show how much we don't like change here in Chicago.

People also still call Soldier Field "Soldier's" even though it was never named that.

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 13):
I say give DCA to Obama and rename ONT or LGB after Reagan.

ONT has little connection to Reagan. SNA would be a better candidate, or maybe LAX would. ONT would be more closely connected to Nixon than to any other president. He would announce candidacies from Pomona and he did use ONT in his travels.


Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 3):
Both airports have names associated with World War 2, and it would be hard to find anybody with the political will to change them

I agree with that. IMO, MDW is the more untouchable of the two from my former North Side perspective of public opinion.



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User currently offlineHNLPointShoot From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 13416 times:

Quoting Jerseyguy (Reply 14):
So Obama is the first Black president, that makes him worthy of an airport? Wasn't it Martin Luther King that said "I have a dream that a man will be judged not by the color of his skin but the content of his character"?

He's the first President to have been born in Hawaii, and the first President to come from Illinois since Reconstruction (Ulysses S. Grant), so I fail to see how his ethnicity is relevant.

That said, I'd rather see a Barack Obama High School before Barack Obama International Airport (even though he graduated from a private school.)


User currently offlineHA_DC9 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 652 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 13843 times:

Oh hell no! Keep HNL, Honolulu International Airport. I swear the "Obamamania" can get down right ridiculous at times. Besides, a lot of things can happen over the next 4 years that could tarnish his presidency/legacy just like several previous commanders in chief before him.

I agree, i'd rather see an HS named after him before an airport.


User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12414 posts, RR: 100
Reply 24, posted (1 year 4 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 13761 times:
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Am I the only one who really likes the current names for the Chicago airports? Is there really any political will to do this? IMHO, it would be simpler to pick an airfield with a name that isn't as well known. Hey, LAX needs a name besides "LAX."  

How many still call DCA "National" instead of Reagan?

Quoting SixtySeven (Reply 21):

I hear KORD is going to change when it becomes Obama Field.

It'll now be KLIF.

  

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I've posted how many times?!?
25 Post contains images quiet1 : With a further nod to history: O'Hare/Obama/Orchard International AIrport?
26 jcwr56 : If it wasn't done with the former Mayor Harold Washington, it's not going happen with POTUS. Or look at it this way, even both Daley's were smart enou
27 strfyr51 : Not a chance. They Could change the name to Barack Obama International but changing the Designator from HNL? Senator Feinstein (Then Mayor) tried tha
28 STT757 : I agree with those that say leave ORD and MDW, they're already named. Perhaps HNL or Springfield (SPI).
29 IMissPiedmont : Perhaps it's time for cities to no longer name their airports after ex presidents. Anytime someone asks if I'm flying into Reagan airport I tell them
30 STT757 : What about JFK, you're flying into Idlewild? While we're naming airports I think MCO should be renamed "Walt Disney International Airport". Walt Disn
31 DarkSnowyNight : I agree, political will & all that. Although, a new field being built would not be out of the question to have that for a name... I don't think t
32 aluminumtubing : Amen to that!
33 NMORD : Peotone could use a name - hahaha
34 ckfred : Remember that ATL was Hartsfield-Atlanta International Airport. I believe William Hartsfield was the Mayor of Atlanta who pushed the idea of a municip
35 bdl2stl2pvg : Well, even though its been almost 150 years since his death, I think that renaming Abraham Lincoln Capital Airport (SPI) would not be a well supporte
36 max550 : But when it comes to Presidents the opposite seems to hold true. Bush, Reagan, Clinton, and Ford all had airports named for them while they were (are
37 SmittyOne : Nor by the size of his airport, nor the quality of its concourses. I do.
38 2travel2know2 : Isn't GYY looking for a name? And for all accounts GYY is in Chicagoland. Maybe if it's named after a U.S. president that airport would see some kind
39 ordjoe : I would say HNL is more his hometown, he has only lived in Chicago since the 90s I would not go that far, chicago has so many different minority grou
40 DashTrash : Name Meigs Field after him......
41 Post contains links RDH3E : But I'd guess that most of the users of DCA probably don't mind the name. The demographics of DC are quite interesting as you probably know. No, I ve
42 BC77008 : Great idea! An airport named after George W. Bush. Perhaps DFW??? I'd rather see Midway renamed Chicago-Midway Obama Int'l -vs- O'Hare because O'Hare
43 DarkSnowyNight : Right. Possible, but not certain. If they did switch it over to the biggest leaseholder though, that probably wouldn't swing it back to Sears. United
44 Post contains images n797mx : How about they name Meigs after hi-... Oh wait...
45 max550 : I'm guessing you haven't used DCA much. Nobody in DC calls it Reagan, it's National. The few times I made the mistake of calling it Reagan in DC I wa
46 Post contains links RDH3E : Just cause you continue using National as the name doesn't mean you hate the Reagan name... It's a habit, and not to mention National is still part o
47 26point2 : I hope not. There's already a George Bush airport in Texas. Imagine the confusion. "Who's on First?..." Why don't they name Bagdad Airport for George
48 milesrich : These are the airports, named after Presidents. John F. Kennedy International Airport - New York, New York George Bush Intercontinental Airport - Hou
49 Kaiarahi : JFK started out as Major General Alexander E. Anderson Airport in 1943, was renamed NY International Airport, Anderson Field in 1948, and then JFK in
50 Kaiarahi : We even have one named after someone who failed to become Prime Minister - Robert L. Stanfield International (YHZ).
51 Post contains links RDH3E : Just saying: "In April 1942, New York City began placing hydraulic fill over the marshy tidelands of Idlewild Golf Course. Initial plans were for a m
52 Kaiarahi : Yeah, I know. Everyone called it Idlewild, but that was never its name.
53 steex : A few more: Jimmy Carter Regional Airport (ACJ) F.D. Roosevelt Airport (EUX) Additionally, STT was previously known as Harry S. Truman Airport before
54 CalebWilliams : On a completely unrelated note (or nearly so), once the WII and baby boomer generation is gone, people are going to more and more quickly forget the B
55 tjwgrr : ---------------------- This is getting ridiculous. Mods-- please delete this post and/or move the entire thread to the Non-Av forum.
56 airsmiles : Speaking as a Brit, O'Hare is one of the few US airports anyone in my country could quote. To change the name would be very regretful indeed. From my
57 SixtySeven : And the subject of this thread during an interview after throwing out the first pitch was speaking of his true love, the White Sox and how he used to
58 Post contains images DocLightning : That's a really good point. Although, wouldn't Nairobi International be the new Barack Obama International Airport? At least, that's what Orly Taitz
59 delta747tlv : OGG? How about NBO for those who like silly political humor?
60 iowaman : Greetings fellow members, I kindly ask you all to stay on topic and avoid turning this into a political or race debate that is unrelated to aviation.
61 skywaymanaz : At the risk of getting flamed I wouldn't be surprised if NBO was named after him or more likely another airport in Kenya. If I were Kenyan I'd be prou
62 Post contains images tmoney : On a serious note, I'd love to see my country's main airport Yangon Intl (RGN) to honor The Lady -- Aung San Suu Kyi International Airport. She broug
63 ADent : I grew up in Chicago and moved out prior to the Obama era - but I don't consider Obama to be from Chicago. He didn't grow up there. He didn't get alon
64 jmc1975 : Either airport could be subject to the Obamization of its name. A lot of crazy crap happens in the Chicago political arena, so replacing either airpor
65 type-rated : BO was in Chicago both before and after college.
66 D L X : Do you call it Reagan Airport? If you want to talk about some sort of mania, there's your mania. I do as well, and at least a good chunk of the peopl
67 kordcj : As a native Chicagoan, I'd hate to see O'Hare renamed after Obama. Little was known about Obama until the early 2000s. The only name change I'd agree
68 iFlyLOTs : It was Chicago Air Park then it was Chicago Municipal
69 steex : It was named Chicago Air Park until July 1949.
70 SixtySeven : Just as it's still called Dorval up north of the border in Montreal vs Trudeau.
71 AADC10 : I doubt either ORD or MDW will ever be named after Obama in his lifetime. There is enough underlying racism to prevent it. Republicans, despite claimi
72 TrnsWrld : Even though its nothing more than a name, I sure hope they dont name a Chicago airport after Obama. I do not support that man and certainly didnt vote
73 Post contains links and images kgaiflyer : A great many of us who actually live here (as opposed to being part of the federal rotation) still call it "National." View Large View MediumPhoto ©
74 kgaiflyer : Yes, but Dorval is the municipality in which Trudeau airport is located. As the airport occupies 60% of the city's land, the city would also have to
75 RamblinMan : They can name 'em whatever the hell they want. We'll keep calling them O'Hare and Midway, and thats all there is to it.
76 YULWinterSkies : Considering that his path to the White House all started in Iowa (Iowa City in particular) with the Democrat primaries in '08, and considering the cou
77 displane : My guess is that Obama will get a warship named after him first before an airport. But I'm like sot people if he does get an airport it will be HNL- h
78 Post contains links CalebWilliams : Just a point of information, Obama became involved in Chicago in June 1985 or. (See: http://www.tnr.com/article/the-agita...amas-unlikely-political-e
79 aloges : What is the deal with naming airports after living people? I find it highly inappropriate, particular so in the case of DCA whose purported name is ju
80 seabosdca : In DC, what you call the airport is a large clue to your political orientation. And 85% or so of DC residents are Democrats. (The metro area as a who
81 brilondon : It would not have anything to do with them being fired by Reagan and forcing them to reapply for their old jobs at a lower rate of pay of course?
82 micstatic : Well this is not completely true. Busiest airport in the US=ATL. Hartsfield and Jackson both democrats.
83 milesrich : Chicago is not "minority in terms of political will," and Chicago does not rename things. Obama will have things named after him in Chicago, but O'Ha
84 milesrich : They are never going to change the name of O'Hare, who like Daley was Irish, and who was a real war hero and the first Congressional Medal of Honor w
85 777ord : We already changed the SEARS tower name... Please not the airports!! :-p I like calling them what they are now. But, it does make a good point from th
86 WROORD : That is not because this is DC as someone said earlier, but rather what he did during the air traffic controllers strike. As for Obama I do not think
87 bjorn14 : Yes he does, Jimmy Carter Regional Airport (ACJ) in Americus, GA.
88 Post contains images CIDFlyer : you forgot F9's E90's and soon to be A320
89 Post contains images jetpixx : I dislike this president, but I feel he should have an airport named after him... How about Chicago-Gary Obama International Airport (GYY), or maybe t
90 SixtySeven : Not the point. My point is that they still call it Dorval. The new name wasnt adopted by the public- the majority anyways. Oddly enough YYZ is Pearso
91 redzeppelin : I suggested HNL earlier in the thread, but on second thought, what about IAD gettng the Obama name someday? "Obama Internatonal" could serve as a nice
92 Cubsrule : This. It takes someone who has lived in Chicago to understand. Truth be told, I'm not sure even transplants to Chicago get it - you may have to be a
93 D L X : It's pretty standard regardless of political affiliation. If you're a local, it's probably National. If you're a newcomer, it's probably Reagan.
94 Aesma : To me it's best to name something new built, if possible the airport/building/park/town should have been decided by the person it is named after. For
95 Beardown91737 : Ronald Reagan was born in Dixon, IL. He went to HS in that area, and he was the radio announcer for the Cubs. The I-88 tollway in Illinois is named f
96 rwessel : Chicagoans are still upset at Macy's for renaming Marshal Field's. Sales were off at the renamed stores for years. They could have made a trifling co
97 bond007 : I'm afraid Chicago is little different from other cities when it comes to this. United Airlines pays $2 million/year for naming rights on the United
98 Cubsrule : . . . but no one uses the names, so it's a huge waste of money. I had to google the Franklin Center, and when you say "Aon Center" to me, I think of
99 Kaiarahi : You have wrongly attributed this post to me
100 kngkyle : I think 'United Tower' would be much more accepted by the community than 'Willis Tower'. At least United is a local company with their headquarters an
101 777ord : haha! Sounds like some other rumor's around the 27th floor of NOC in WHQ! But, seeing as United was paid a nice sum of money to relocate to Chicago,
102 RDH3E : 2023, and they didn't pay a dime for the naming rights.
103 Post contains images bond007 : Sorry, I thought your point was that Chicago did NOT rename things ... I must have misunderstood ...I mentioned 3 that had already, and reasons why t
104 Cubsrule : Yes. The City doesn't rename things it owns, like Soldier Field, O'Hare Field, and Midway Airport. I'll grant you that the words after O'Hare have ch
105 milesrich : While Ronald Reagan spent many of his boyhood years in Dixon, he was born in Tampico, IL, in Whiteside County, which is near Prophetstown and south o
106 type-rated : Sometimes the a.net software gets it wrong when you quote somebody. I've had it happen to me a few times.
107 seabosdca : It's not a matter of the "a.net software." Its behavior is predictable: it says you are quoting the post directly below whichever "Quote Selected Tex
108 iowaman : I think we can all agree this thread has ran its' course. Since it first started the thread continues to turn into political debates and veers off top
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