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ORD/MDW To Obama? Inevitable?  
User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3628 posts, RR: 6
Posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 14906 times:

Starters...I don't care about politics, so let's not get lost in the weeds.

Several US Presidents have airports named after them. Usually a historic President or a hometown President.

In the case of Obama, you have the nations first African American President...and he is very closely linked to his hometown of Chicago. He also seems to be very popular there and the current Mayor is Obama's former Chief of Staff.

Do we forsee a name change of either airport over the next decade? If so, which airport?

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User currently offlineiFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 492 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 14920 times:

Neither, they're already named after historical figures/events, no need to add Obama to it. (I like Obama but give him am airport somewhere else)


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User currently offlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21876 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 14898 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Thread starter):
Do we forsee a name change of either airport over the next decade? If so, which airport?

I'd doubt it, actually. O'Hare and Midway's names are both so well-known that I have a hard time thinking the city would go along with the change.

-Mir



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User currently offlineredzeppelin From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 14832 times:

Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 1):
Neither, they're already named after historical figures/events, no need to add Obama to it.

Agreed.
Both airports have names associated with World War 2, and it would be hard to find anybody with the political will to change them. But what about HNL? HNL to me is the obvious future Barack Obama International Airport.

[Edited 2012-12-10 19:40:05]


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User currently offlineiFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 492 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 14796 times:

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 3):
HNL to me is obvious future Barack Obama International Airport.

That would be perfect! The tea party will certainly push for it to be NBO though.



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User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3628 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14707 times:

African American President overrides WW2 in a city that is overwhelmingly minority in terms of political will.

Case in point Atlanta Hartsfield...doesn't that have Jackson in it now?


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7975 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14681 times:

I can see it being O'hare/Obama international in the future, but nothing that removes O'Hare from ORD. Midway's name isn't going nowhere.

It's almost like how nobody calls it the "Willis Tower." I tell a foreigner when they visit Chicago "Hey did you visit the Willis Tower?" and they give me a confused look until I say "Sears Tower." Then they know what I'm saying.



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User currently offlinebond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5455 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14659 times:

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 3):
But what about HNL? HNL to me is obvious future Barack Obama International Airport.

...or Lagos  

Bear in mind, very few airports are named after people still alive.

NO do not hijack this thread into a list of airports that were named after live people.....but that will happen, and I will reply with rolled eyes !



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User currently offlinecrj900lr From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 390 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14652 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 5):
Case in point Atlanta Hartsfield...doesn't that have Jackson in it now?

True, but what would the name be then if they decided to somehow incorporate Obama's name into either MDW or ORD's name?


User currently offlineiFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 492 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14595 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 6):
It's almost like how nobody calls it the "Willis Tower." I tell a foreigner when they visit Chicago "Hey did you visit the Willis Tower?" and they give me a confused look until I say "Sears Tower." Then they know what I'm saying.

This along with people still calling U.S. Cellular Field Comiskey Park just goes to show how much we don't like change here in Chicago.

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 5):
African American President overrides WW2 in a city that is overwhelmingly minority in terms of political will.

It still doesn't add up to a change. The only chance I see Obama having for a Chicago airport named for him is the proposed third airport, and chances of that happening are still slim.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26021 posts, RR: 22
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14594 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Thread starter):
Several US Presidents have airports named after them.

Considering that Obama is the 44th President, the number of airports named for them is fairly small.
http://www.presidentsusa.net/airports.html

Canada has had 22 Prime Ministers (22 different people; a few served more than once) and if memory correct, 4 have airports named for them (Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Saskatoon).


User currently onlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15838 posts, RR: 27
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14541 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Thread starter):
ORD/MDW To Obama? Inevitable?  

Considering the state of budgets in Chicago and Illinois, they should take a page from sports teams and sell naming rights to Midway to the highest bidder.

Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 9):
This along with people still calling U.S. Cellular Field Comiskey Park just goes to show how much we don't like change here in Chicago.

Well, there are certain people who refer to it as Cominskey Field.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPUhulaRzpU

Of course, this is changing as now it seems most people refer to it as US Cellular. If you talk about Comiskey Park people will probably assume you're talking about the old stadium.



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User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4616 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14504 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 6):
I can see it being O'hare/Obama international in the future, but nothing that removes O'Hare from ORD. Midway's name isn't going nowhere.

It's almost like how nobody calls it the "Willis Tower." I tell a foreigner when they visit Chicago "Hey did you visit the Willis Tower?" and they give me a confused look until I say "Sears Tower." Then they know what I'm saying.

I could definitely see that. Chicago O'Hare-Obama International Airport. Though I do like the idea of Honolulu a bit more.

Whenever I'm in Chicago my friends and people there always just seem to call it the "former Sears tower" unless they end up working in the building itself.


User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14507 times:

I say give DCA to Obama and rename ONT or LGB after Reagan. Most DC residents detest Ronald Reagan and were very upset when congress renamed their airport after him, so it would be a win-win.

User currently offlineusflyer msp From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2184 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14420 times:

Quoting Jerseyguy (Reply 14):
So Obama is the first Black president, that makes him worthy of an airport?

Who said that (other than you)? If Reagan, Bill and Hillary Clinton, George Bush No. 1 and Gerald Ford can have airports named after them so can President Obama.


User currently offlineViajero From Mexico, joined Aug 2008, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14325 times:
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From an outside perspective, I agree with others here that Chicago's airports will not likely be renamed, however, I feel that Barack Obama will have an airport named after him somewhere in the U.S. Due to recent history, most presidents since Reagan have been honored in such a way, with the exception of George W. Bush. IIRC, the airport in Little Rock, Arkansas is now named after Bill AND Hillary Clinton. HNL would be a good choice due to Obama's childhood history.

User currently offlineiFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 492 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14309 times:

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 15):
Who said that (other than you)?
Quoting jfklganyc (Thread starter):
In the case of Obama, you have the nations first African American President
Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 5):
African American President overrides WW2 in a city that is overwhelmingly minority in terms of political will.

It was the reasoning from the very beginning.  



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User currently offlineSixtySeven From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 344 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14283 times:

Funny this about Reagan. When I used to fly to DCA after the name changed from National, the ATC guys would not acknowledge the name change. Their beef with RR was that deep. If you asked a second time on check in they'd say something like "This is Washington national tower, cleared to land."

Would not even acknowledge Reagan's name. They hate him and always will.



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6631 posts, RR: 21
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 14246 times:

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 15):

Whats the official name of LIT? When was this?



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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10670 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 14188 times:

Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 9):
This along with people still calling U.S. Cellular Field Comiskey Park just goes to show how much we don't like change here in Chicago.

I still call the, now, Energy Solutions Arena (what a hokey name) in SLC, the Delta Center and probably always will.

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 15):
Who said that (other than you)? If Reagan, Bill and Hillary Clinton, George Bush No. 1 and Gerald Ford can have airports named after them so can President Obama.

I think it was the thread starter, from the beginning....

Quoting jfklganyc (Thread starter):
In the case of Obama, you have the nations first African American President
Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 5):
African American President overrides WW2 in a city that is overwhelmingly minority in terms of political will

I'm not trying to make this political, but to link a Medal of Honor winner with Obama is just wrong.



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User currently offlineViajero From Mexico, joined Aug 2008, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 14147 times:
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Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 19):
Whats the official name of LIT? When was this?

Bill and Hillary Clinton National / Adams Field. Happened this year.


User currently offlineBeardown91737 From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 13802 times:

Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 9):
This along with people still calling U.S. Cellular Field Comiskey Park just goes to show how much we don't like change here in Chicago.

People also still call Soldier Field "Soldier's" even though it was never named that.

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 13):
I say give DCA to Obama and rename ONT or LGB after Reagan.

ONT has little connection to Reagan. SNA would be a better candidate, or maybe LAX would. ONT would be more closely connected to Nixon than to any other president. He would announce candidacies from Pomona and he did use ONT in his travels.


Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 3):
Both airports have names associated with World War 2, and it would be hard to find anybody with the political will to change them

I agree with that. IMO, MDW is the more untouchable of the two from my former North Side perspective of public opinion.



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User currently offlineHNLPointShoot From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 323 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 13787 times:

Quoting Jerseyguy (Reply 14):
So Obama is the first Black president, that makes him worthy of an airport? Wasn't it Martin Luther King that said "I have a dream that a man will be judged not by the color of his skin but the content of his character"?

He's the first President to have been born in Hawaii, and the first President to come from Illinois since Reconstruction (Ulysses S. Grant), so I fail to see how his ethnicity is relevant.

That said, I'd rather see a Barack Obama High School before Barack Obama International Airport (even though he graduated from a private school.)


User currently offlineHA_DC9 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 656 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 14214 times:

Oh hell no! Keep HNL, Honolulu International Airport. I swear the "Obamamania" can get down right ridiculous at times. Besides, a lot of things can happen over the next 4 years that could tarnish his presidency/legacy just like several previous commanders in chief before him.

I agree, i'd rather see an HS named after him before an airport.


User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13551 posts, RR: 100
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 14132 times:
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Am I the only one who really likes the current names for the Chicago airports? Is there really any political will to do this? IMHO, it would be simpler to pick an airfield with a name that isn't as well known. Hey, LAX needs a name besides "LAX."  

How many still call DCA "National" instead of Reagan?

Quoting SixtySeven (Reply 21):

I hear KORD is going to change when it becomes Obama Field.

It'll now be KLIF.

  

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User currently offlinequiet1 From Thailand, joined Apr 2010, 358 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 14173 times:

With a further nod to history: O'Hare/Obama/Orchard International AIrport?  

User currently offlinejcwr56 From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 543 posts, RR: 1
Reply 26, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 14076 times:

If it wasn't done with the former Mayor Harold Washington, it's not going happen with POTUS. Or look at it this way, even both Daley's were smart enough not to change the names of ORD and MDW.

However, if the current mayor finally works out a deal to privatize MDW by years end, then perhaps the new "owners" might have the courage to change it.

Sadly, money talks this day and age.


User currently offlinestrfyr51 From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 1414 posts, RR: 1
Reply 27, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13859 times:
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Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 3):

Not a chance. They Could change the name to Barack Obama International but changing the Designator from HNL?
Senator Feinstein (Then Mayor) tried that at SFO after Mayor Moscone was assassinated . The FAA said she could name the airport whatever she damn well pleased BUT the SFO designator would remain as MOS was Moscow, and it wasn't going anywhere.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 28, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13781 times:

I agree with those that say leave ORD and MDW, they're already named. Perhaps HNL or Springfield (SPI).


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User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6344 posts, RR: 33
Reply 29, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13755 times:

Perhaps it's time for cities to no longer name their airports after ex presidents. Anytime someone asks if I'm flying into Reagan airport I tell them that I'm flying into National, likewise Intercontinental for Houston.


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 30, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13692 times:

Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 31):
Perhaps it's time for cities to no longer name their airports after ex presidents. Anytime someone asks if I'm flying into Reagan airport I tell them that I'm flying into National, likewise Intercontinental for Houston.



What about JFK, you're flying into Idlewild?

While we're naming airports I think MCO should be renamed "Walt Disney International Airport". Walt Disney, the man, is responsible for most of the economic activity in the region and for putting Orlando on the map. If anyone deserved to have a local airport named after them it should be Walt Disney.



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User currently offlineDarkSnowyNight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1412 posts, RR: 3
Reply 31, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13214 times:

Quoting Mir (Reply 2):
I'd doubt it, actually. O'Hare and Midway's names are both so well-known that I have a hard time thinking the city would go along with the change.

I agree, political will & all that. Although, a new field being built would not be out of the question to have that for a name...

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 3):
HNL to me is the obvious future Barack Obama International Airport.

I don't think think there's anything wrong with that idea.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 6):
I tell a foreigner when they visit Chicago "Hey did you visit the Willis Tower?" and they give me a confused look until I say "Sears Tower." Then they know what I'm saying.

Not really. They just renamed it. Give it five years. No one calls the AON Center the Standard Oil Building anymore. That one even had a nickname.

Quoting SixtySeven (Reply 21):

Good one...

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 26):
How many still call DCA "National" instead of Reagan?

Lots. And it's fine to do so, given that it's Reagan National anyway.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 26):
Hey, LAX needs a name besides "LAX."

LAX is fine the way it is. Also, no connection here In N Out Int'l to President O...



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User currently offlinealuminumtubing From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 367 posts, RR: 12
Reply 32, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 12950 times:

Quoting HA_DC9 (Reply 25):
I swear the "Obamamania" can get down right ridiculous at times.

Amen to that!


User currently offlineNMORD From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 4 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 12709 times:

Peotone could use a name - hahaha

User currently offlineckfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5311 posts, RR: 1
Reply 34, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 12648 times:

Remember that ATL was Hartsfield-Atlanta International Airport. I believe William Hartsfield was the Mayor of Atlanta who pushed the idea of a municipal airport.

Then, it became Hartsfield/Jackson-Atlanta International Airport. Maynard Jackson, I believe, was the first black to be elected as Mayor of Atlanta, and he was a part of the group who brought the Olympics to Atlanta.

Yet, many people in Atlanta simply refer to the airport as Hartsfield, despite the name change.

So, even if something in Chicago is renamed for Obama, many people probably will keep calling it by the old name. The Aon Tower is usually called the Standard Oil Building, even though Standard Oil/Amoco/BP left the building some time ago.


User currently offlinebdl2stl2pvg From China, joined Jun 2006, 151 posts, RR: 0
Reply 35, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 12266 times:

Quoting STT757 (Reply 30):
Perhaps HNL or Springfield (SPI).


Well, even though its been almost 150 years since his death, I think that renaming Abraham Lincoln Capital Airport (SPI) would not be a well supported action.

[Edited 2012-12-11 06:31:30]

User currently offlinemax550 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 36, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 12005 times:

Quoting bond007 (Reply 7):
Bear in mind, very few airports are named after people still alive.

But when it comes to Presidents the opposite seems to hold true. Bush, Reagan, Clinton, and Ford all had airports named for them while they were (are) still living

Quoting HA_DC9 (Reply 25):
Oh hell no! Keep HNL, Honolulu International Airport. I swear the "Obamamania" can get down right ridiculous at times. Besides, a lot of things can happen over the next 4 years that could tarnish his presidency/legacy just like several previous commanders in chief before him.

I don't think it's "Obamamania". Considering we've had airports renamed for several of the last few Presidents it seems like a perfectly valid question. I agree with you about HNL though, there's no need to change any more airport names.

Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 31):
Perhaps it's time for cities to no longer name their airports after ex presidents. Anytime someone asks if I'm flying into Reagan airport I tell them that I'm flying into National, likewise Intercontinental for Houston.

Agreed, how about no more name changes at all? Although I enjoy the irony when the TSA confiscates any liquids I may have and then runs me through a body scanner at Liberty International Airport (EWR), name changes are generally pointless exercises.


User currently offlineSmittyOne From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 37, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11886 times:

Quoting Jerseyguy (Reply 14):
Wasn't it Martin Luther King that said "I have a dream that a man will be judged not by the color of his skin..."

Nor by the size of his airport, nor the quality of its concourses.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 26):
How many still call DCA "National" instead of Reagan?

I do.


User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2707 posts, RR: 2
Reply 38, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11505 times:

Isn't GYY looking for a name? And for all accounts GYY is in Chicagoland.
Maybe if it's named after a U.S. president that airport would see some kind of major development and traffic.
HNL named after Obama is also a good idea, perhaps better than a Chicaland airport named after him, after all Hawaiian "HNL Obama" would be a great way to remind the U.S. how diverse its people are.



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User currently offlineordjoe From United States of America, joined Aug 2010, 752 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 11480 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Thread starter):
he is very closely linked to his hometown of Chicago.

I would say HNL is more his hometown, he has only lived in Chicago since the 90s

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 5):
African American President overrides WW2 in a city that is overwhelmingly minority in terms of political will.

I would not go that far, chicago has so many different minority groups that none get big enough to truly dominate the political landscape. Take the recent mayorial election, you had a black lady, a hispanic, and Rahm Emanuel, and look who won that.

It would be highly controversial to change either of those names. They have tried selling the naming rights to Solider's Field where the Bears play and that has never got off the ground. The most they could get was Soliders field presented by Chase Bank. To change an airport named after a WWII hero or the battle that turned the course of the war in the pacific would be political suicide.
The best chance is if there is an extra airport built, then that will have a good chance.


User currently offlineDashTrash From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 1565 posts, RR: 2
Reply 40, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11359 times:

Name Meigs Field after him......

User currently offlineRDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1827 posts, RR: 3
Reply 41, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11346 times:

Quoting usflyer msp (Reply 13):
Most DC residents detest Ronald Reagan and were very upset when congress renamed their airport after him, so it would be a win-win.

But I'd guess that most of the users of DCA probably don't mind the name. The demographics of DC are quite interesting as you probably know.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 26):
Am I the only one who really likes the current names for the Chicago airports?

No, I very much like O'hare International Airport. And like many others feel a sense of pride when walking past the memorial to "Butch".

Quoting jcwr56 (Reply 28):
If it wasn't done with the former Mayor Harold Washington, it's not going happen with POTUS. Or look at it this way, even both Daley's were smart enough not to change the names of ORD and MDW.

Yeah, Harold Washington has the Library/Subsequent "L" stop named after him. The library is an absolutely beautiful building, and I could see something similar in the short term after Obama's term in office.

Quoting DarkSnowyNight (Reply 33):

Not really. They just renamed it. Give it five years. No one calls the AON Center the Standard Oil Building anymore. That one even had a nickname.

It's been only 3 so far, but in 5, they'll have only 7 years left on their rights ot the name...

"A Willis spokesman said the naming rights were obtained as part of the negotiations at no cost to Willis,[33][34][35] and the building was renamed the Willis Tower on July 16, 2009.[36] The naming rights are valid for 15 years so it is possible that the building’s name could change again in 2024.[37] "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willis_Tower#Naming_rights

Rumor is, with UA consolidating offices into Willis, and becoming the biggest leaseholder, there may be a name change sometime in the future....


User currently offlineBC77008 From United States of America, joined Sep 2011, 316 posts, RR: 0
Reply 42, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11216 times:

Quoting ripcordd (Reply 37):
They can change the city code to DEBT for everything he left us

Great idea! An airport named after George W. Bush. Perhaps DFW???

Quoting Beardown91737 (Reply 23):
I agree with that. IMO, MDW is the more untouchable of the two from my former North Side perspective of public opinion.

I'd rather see Midway renamed Chicago-Midway Obama Int'l -vs- O'Hare because O'Hare is actually named for a person. But in either case, I say leave Chicago's airports alone. Let's just get a presidential library and be ok with that.



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User currently offlineDarkSnowyNight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1412 posts, RR: 3
Reply 43, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11148 times:

Quoting RDH3E (Reply 44):

Rumor is, with UA consolidating offices into Willis, and becoming the biggest leaseholder, there may be a name change sometime in the future...

Right. Possible, but not certain. If they did switch it over to the biggest leaseholder though, that probably wouldn't swing it back to Sears. United Tower. That might stick....



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User currently offlinen797mx From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 247 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11127 times:

How about they name Meigs after hi-...

Oh wait...   



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User currently offlinemax550 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 1166 posts, RR: 0
Reply 45, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11101 times:

Quoting RDH3E (Reply 44):
But I'd guess that most of the users of DCA probably don't mind the name. The demographics of DC are quite interesting as you probably know.

I'm guessing you haven't used DCA much. Nobody in DC calls it Reagan, it's National. The few times I made the mistake of calling it Reagan in DC I was quickly corrected.


User currently offlineRDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1827 posts, RR: 3
Reply 46, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10961 times:

Quoting max550 (Reply 48):
I'm guessing you haven't used DCA much. Nobody in DC calls it Reagan, it's National. The few times I made the mistake of calling it Reagan in DC I was quickly corrected.

Just cause you continue using National as the name doesn't mean you hate the Reagan name... It's a habit, and not to mention National is still part of the name.... http://www.metwashairports.com/reagan/reagan.htm


User currently offline26point2 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 856 posts, RR: 0
Reply 47, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10969 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 5):

I hope not. There's already a George Bush airport in Texas. Imagine the confusion. "Who's on First?..."

Why don't they name Bagdad Airport for George W?


User currently offlinemilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2012 posts, RR: 6
Reply 48, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 10781 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Thread starter):
Starters...I don't care about politics, so let's not get lost in the weeds.

Several US Presidents have airports named after them. Usually a historic President or a hometown President.

In the case of Obama, you have the nations first African American President...and he is very closely linked to his hometown of Chicago. He also seems to be very popular there and the current Mayor is Obama's former Chief of Staff.

Do we forsee a name change of either airport over the next decade? If so, which air
Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 5):
African American President overrides WW2 in a city that is overwhelmingly minority in terms of political will.

Case in point Atlanta Hartsfield...doesn't that have Jackson in it now?
Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 9):
This along with people still calling U.S. Cellular Field Comiskey Park just goes to show how much we don't like change here in Chicago.

These are the airports, named after Presidents. John F. Kennedy International Airport - New York, New York

George Bush Intercontinental Airport - Houston, Texas

Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport - Washington, DC

Gerald R. Ford International Airport - Grand Rapids, Michigan

Abraham Lincoln Capital Airport - Springfield, Illinois

Dickinson Theodore Roosevelt Regional Airport - Dickinson, North Dakota

Bill and Hillary Clinton National Airport - formerly Little Rock Municipal Airport

Notice, the only Democrat, before the Little Rock renaming this year, is John F. Kennedy, who was assassinated and who also was a "young" seemingly dashing man, who was revered because he was shot, not because he was President for two terms, or passed a lot of meaningful legislation. Yes, he was a good leader, but the rush to name things after him took place in the wake of a terrible national tragedy. Furthermore, the prior official name was New York International Airport, Anderson Field, named for a General who had died in 1942. The airport was called Idlewild by most people and its designator was IDL, named after the golf course that used to occupy part of its space. I can assure you I was just as much an airline buff when I moved to NYC in 1962 and when IDL was the primary airport for jet flights, and not only did no one call it Anderson Field, few knew that was the official name, so there was no protest about taking General Anderson's name off the field in December 1963 when the official name was changed to JFK.

The original poster said not to be political, but that is what this is all about. Republicans, IMHO, have sort of an inferiority complex. The only Presidents that they wanted to claim before Reagan were Eisenhower, Teddy Roosevelt and Lincoln. It used to be we didn't name things after living people, but that all changed when Reaganism took the country by storm. The four terms of FDR so stuck in their craw that the first thing they did after taking over the Congress after his death was pass that 22nd Amendment. Never again would that have to refer to anyone as "THAT MAN". Can you imagine today if FDR was around. Fox News would refer to him as that philandering crippled nightly. When I was a kid, a popular GOP tale was that FDR knew the Japanese were going to attack Pearl Harbor and her purposefully didn't warn anyone because he wanted a surprise attack so he could take us into WWII. There were radio personalities like Father Coughlin that referred to him as Franklin Delano Jewsevelt.

So after the 2nd Coming in the name of Ronald Wilson Reagan, the GOP wanted to name everything after him, and wih DCA, they got their way, but when they wanted to replace FDR on the Dime, that didn't go over too well.

Grand Rapids named their airport which was formerly the Kent County Airport after Gerald R. Ford, their Congressman who became President after being appointed to replace a criminal, Spiro Agnew, and then became President when another criminal resigned during the Watergate scandal.

So when George H. W. Bush, a one term President who was more unpopular than Jimmy Carter when he left office (he got 37% of the vote), went back to Houston, they named IAH after him, since they had named their older airport, after a living person, former Texas Governor William P. Hobby, who was a civic leader and head of the major Houston newspaper, the Post.

During this same, let's name things after Republicans because so many things are named Roosevelt, or Kennedy, time, Republicans spent millions to erect small highway signs all over the country to name the Interstate Highway system, after its creator, Dwight D. Eisenhower.

O'Hare will always be O'Hare. No one ever called it Orchard Place to begin with. And it was a C-54 plant before it was a commercial airport, and really not used very much before the advent of the B-707.

Midway, named after the battle in the Pacific, will not be renamed either.

As far as SPI, it was the Springfield Capital Airport before it was named for Lincoln in the last 20 years or so.

I will never call National Airport "Reagan" and I still call IAH Intercontinental. ATL will always be Hartsfield. Changing names of landmarks to me is distasteful. It is like burying someone on top of a loved one and removing and replacing the original headstone. .


But Obama will get an airport named after him and it won't replace anyone else's monument. HNL will probably end up officially name Barack Obama Honolulu International Airport. Hawaii is not the home to too many birthers or other crackpots who think our President is a Muslim, a Marxist, or even a Socialist, let alone a Nazi.

[Edited 2012-12-11 09:23:17]

User currently offlineKaiarahi From Canada, joined Jul 2009, 3072 posts, RR: 37
Reply 49, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 10374 times:

JFK started out as Major General Alexander E. Anderson Airport in 1943, was renamed NY International Airport, Anderson Field in 1948, and then JFK in 1963. It was never actually named Idlewild.


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User currently offlineKaiarahi From Canada, joined Jul 2009, 3072 posts, RR: 37
Reply 50, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 10310 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 10):
Canada has had 22 Prime Ministers (22 different people; a few served more than once) and if memory correct, 4 have airports named for them (Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Saskatoon).

We even have one named after someone who failed to become Prime Minister - Robert L. Stanfield International (YHZ).



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User currently offlineRDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1827 posts, RR: 3
Reply 51, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 10319 times:

Quoting Kaiarahi (Reply 55):
JFK started out as Major General Alexander E. Anderson Airport in 1943, was renamed NY International Airport, Anderson Field in 1948, and then JFK in 1963. It was never actually named Idlewild.

Just saying:

"In April 1942, New York City began placing hydraulic fill over the marshy tidelands of Idlewild Golf Course. Initial plans were for a modest 1,000-acre airport, but by the time construction was complete Idlewild Airport had grown to five times that size. Commercial flights began in July 1948. On December 24, 1963, the airport was rededicated John F. Kennedy International Airport in memory of the nation’s 35th president. Today, JFK is the nation’s leading international gateway, with more than 80 airlines operating from its gates. "

http://www.panynj.gov/airports/jfk-history.html


User currently offlineKaiarahi From Canada, joined Jul 2009, 3072 posts, RR: 37
Reply 52, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 10126 times:

Quoting RDH3E (Reply 57):

Yeah, I know. Everyone called it Idlewild, but that was never its name.



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User currently offlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1765 posts, RR: 9
Reply 53, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 10089 times:

Quoting milesrich (Reply 51):
These are the airports, named after Presidents.

A few more:

Jimmy Carter Regional Airport (ACJ)
F.D. Roosevelt Airport (EUX)

Additionally, STT was previously known as Harry S. Truman Airport before being renamed for Cyril E. King.

[Edited 2012-12-11 09:34:09]

User currently offlineCalebWilliams From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 54, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 10082 times:

On a completely unrelated note (or nearly so), once the WII and baby boomer generation is gone, people are going to more and more quickly forget the Battle of Midway as time goes by. Sad, yes.

[Edited 2012-12-11 09:34:26]


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User currently offlinetjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2507 posts, RR: 2
Reply 55, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 10045 times:

Quoting milesrich (Reply 51):
These are the airports, named after Presidents. ...........

......So after the 2nd Coming in the name of Ronald Wilson Reagan, the GOP wanted to name everything after him, and wih DCA, they got their way, but when they wanted to replace FDR on the Dime, that didn't go over too well.

Grand Rapids named their airport which was formerly the Kent County Airport after Gerald R. Ford, their Congressman who became President after being appointed to replace a criminal, Spiro Agnew, and then became President when another criminal resigned during the Watergate scandal.

So when George H. W. Bush, a one term President who was more unpopular than Jimmy Carter when he left office (he got 37% of the vote), went back to Houston, they named IAH after him, since they had named their older airport, after a living person, former Texas Governor William P. Hobby, who was a civic leader and head of the major Houston newspaper, the Post.

During this same, let's name things after Republicans because so many things are named Roosevelt, or Kennedy, time, Republicans spent millions to erect small highway signs all over the country to name the Interstate Highway system, after its creator, Dwight D. Eisenhower.

.But Obama will get an airport named after him and it won't replace anyone else's monument. HNL will probably end up officially name Barack Obama Honolulu International Airport. Hawaii is not the home to too many birthers or other crackpots who think our President is a Muslim, a Marxist, or even a Socialist, let alone a Nazi.


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This is getting ridiculous.

Mods-- please delete this post and/or move the entire thread to the Non-Av forum.



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User currently offlineairsmiles From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2009, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 56, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9920 times:

Speaking as a Brit, O'Hare is one of the few US airports anyone in my country could quote. To change the name would be very regretful indeed. From my personal perspective I've flown to/from/through it so many times I'd be sad to see O'Hare renamed as well.

They rename airports in the UK as well and there aren't many that end up with sensible names IMHO.


User currently offlineSixtySeven From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 344 posts, RR: 3
Reply 57, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9711 times:

Quoting milesrich (Reply 52):
Quoting Beardown91737 (Reply 23):
Quoting iFlyLOTs (Reply 9):
This along with people still calling U.S. Cellular Field Comiskey Park just goes to show how much we don't like change here in Chicago.

People also still call Soldier Field "Soldier's" even though it was never named that.

And the subject of this thread during an interview after throwing out the first pitch was speaking of his true love, the White Sox and how he used to love going down to Cominski Field....... Talking out his ass again.



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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 20361 posts, RR: 59
Reply 58, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9630 times:

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 3):
But what about HNL? HNL to me is the obvious future Barack Obama International Airport.

That's a really good point. Although, wouldn't Nairobi International be the new Barack Obama International Airport? At least, that's what Orly Taitz and Donald Trump tell me these days.  

[Edited 2012-12-11 10:13:46]

User currently offlinedelta747tlv From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 59, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9342 times:

OGG? How about NBO for those who like silly political humor?

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Reply 60, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 9354 times:
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User currently offlineskywaymanaz From United States of America, joined May 2012, 566 posts, RR: 0
Reply 61, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 9119 times:

At the risk of getting flamed I wouldn't be surprised if NBO was named after him or more likely another airport in Kenya. If I were Kenyan I'd be proud that his father was Kenyan. That has nothing to do with the birther issue and it is not uncommon for streets or plazas abroad to be named for a US President.

If I ever became President besides hell freezing over first there might be speculation BJX would be renamed for me after I left office. I'm as Mexican as Obama is Kenyan and my family is from Guanajuato. Also I've joked if I ever became President there'd be birthers claiming I was born there, haha.

Fear not I'll probably never run for dog catcher so I'll only get something named for me by building it myself. HNL would be my guess for Obama International. If NGF became a civilian airport then maybe since he vacations next to it.


User currently offlinetmoney From Myanmar, joined Nov 2011, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 62, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 8960 times:

Quoting 26point2 (Reply 49):
Why don't they name Bagdad Airport for George W?

  

On a serious note, I'd love to see my country's main airport Yangon Intl (RGN) to honor The Lady -- Aung San Suu Kyi International Airport. She brought my country to the Intl stage. I will advocate for that! What's even better? Her father, the country's founding father, General Aung San's name is already in her name! The dictators will surely flip tho. Ha!

And if there is to be a second airport, it should be named "U Thant International".

And I think I can put up with HNL becoming Honolulu - Barack Obama International. The "HNL" designation should be kept of course.


User currently offlineADent From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1406 posts, RR: 2
Reply 63, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8718 times:

I grew up in Chicago and moved out prior to the Obama era - but I don't consider Obama to be from Chicago. He didn't grow up there. He didn't get along with the black political machine (aka Jesse Jackson). He moved there after college to find a job.

Do current residents of the Chicago area claim Obama? Just wondering. Or is this a divided result. One side considers him a true-blue Chicagoan and the other side doesn't?

I would think HNL would be more appropriate.

If they rename (add a name to) Midway it should be after Daley. Or maybe CGX?


User currently offlinejmc1975 From Israel, joined Sep 2000, 3315 posts, RR: 15
Reply 64, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 8595 times:

Either airport could be subject to the Obamization of its name. A lot of crazy crap happens in the Chicago political arena, so replacing either airport's name with Obama's name is not so far-fetched. Just look at what Mayor Daley did to Meigs Field! And also the aforementioned change from Sears Tower to Willis Tower.


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Reply 65, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7926 times:

BO was in Chicago both before and after college.

User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11581 posts, RR: 52
Reply 66, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7877 times:

Quoting HA_DC9 (Reply 23):
I swear the "Obamamania" can get down right ridiculous at times.
Quoting aluminumtubing (Reply 32):
Amen to that!

Do you call it Reagan Airport?

If you want to talk about some sort of mania, there's your mania.

Quoting SmittyOne (Reply 37):
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 26):
How many still call DCA "National" instead of Reagan?

I do.

I do as well, and at least a good chunk of the people who have been in DC 20+ years call it National as well. However, almost none of the newbies call it that.



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User currently offlinekordcj From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 99 posts, RR: 0
Reply 67, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7734 times:

As a native Chicagoan, I'd hate to see O'Hare renamed after Obama. Little was known about Obama until the early 2000s. The only name change I'd agree with for ORD is Richard Daley International Airport. Leave out the middle initial to acknowledge both of them. They both saw the value in the airport for the city, and did all they could (ethical or not who knows) to make sure that ORD would thrive and expand.
On the subject of MDW, what was it called prior to WWII? Hasn't it been open since the 1920s?



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User currently offlineiFlyLOTs From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 492 posts, RR: 0
Reply 68, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7605 times:

Quoting kordcj (Reply 70):
On the subject of MDW, what was it called prior to WWII? Hasn't it been open since the 1920s?

It was Chicago Air Park then it was Chicago Municipal



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User currently offlinesteex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1765 posts, RR: 9
Reply 69, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7604 times:

Quoting kordcj (Reply 70):
On the subject of MDW, what was it called prior to WWII? Hasn't it been open since the 1920s?

It was named Chicago Air Park until July 1949.


User currently offlineSixtySeven From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 344 posts, RR: 3
Reply 70, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7546 times:

Quoting D L X (Reply 69):
I do as well, and at least a good chunk of the people who have been in DC 20+ years call it National as well. However, almost none of the newbies call it that.

Just as it's still called Dorval up north of the border in Montreal vs Trudeau.



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User currently offlineAADC10 From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2103 posts, RR: 0
Reply 71, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7453 times:

I doubt either ORD or MDW will ever be named after Obama in his lifetime. There is enough underlying racism to prevent it. Republicans, despite claiming to be for smaller government, like to put the names of Republican politicians on any government built facilities they can. Democratic politicians mostly get smaller airports that are trying to attract attention, so there will probably not be a big push for HNL either.

Quoting jmc1975 (Reply 67):
Just look at what Mayor Daley did to Meigs Field! And also the aforementioned change from Sears Tower to Willis Tower.

Look for another change after the Willis naming rights end in 2024. United Airlines Tower perhaps, after the largest tenant? United may not want it if the 9/11 connotations have not faded sufficiently by then.


User currently offlineTrnsWrld From United States of America, joined May 1999, 962 posts, RR: 0
Reply 72, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7401 times:

Even though its nothing more than a name, I sure hope they dont name a Chicago airport after Obama. I do not support that man and certainly didnt vote for him. Anyway, like others above have stated I dont think he is tied to Chicago enough for that to happen. He certainly wasnt born or raised here thats for sure. If i remember correctly he was born in Hawaii, then went to Indonesia at a young age, then back to Hawaii, then wherever he went to college.

For what its worth myself and pretty much everyone I know still refers to the Sears Tower as the Sears Tower (not willis lol). Heck, I even know people that still call U.S. Cellular Field Comiskey Park.


User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4330 posts, RR: 1
Reply 73, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 7408 times:
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Quoting lightsaber (Reply 24):
How many still call DCA "National" instead of Reagan?

A great many of us who actually live here (as opposed to being part of the federal rotation) still call it "National."
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User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4330 posts, RR: 1
Reply 74, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7309 times:
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Quoting SixtySeven (Reply 73):
Just as it's still called Dorval up north of the border in Montreal vs Trudeau.

Yes, but Dorval is the municipality in which Trudeau airport is located.

As the airport occupies 60% of the city's land, the city would also have to be renamed, yes?


User currently offlineRamblinMan From United States of America, joined Oct 2010, 1138 posts, RR: 1
Reply 75, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7295 times:

They can name 'em whatever the hell they want. We'll keep calling them O'Hare and Midway, and thats all there is to it.

User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2185 posts, RR: 5
Reply 76, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7232 times:

Considering that his path to the White House all started in Iowa (Iowa City in particular) with the Democrat primaries in '08, and considering the countless trips he did to the Hawkeye state, his name should go to CID.
That would be a welcome change from the currently boring "Eastern Iowa Airport".

Now, admittedly that would not be a very visible name, as the biggest a/c there is a CRJ200 (!) -except for Allegiant's MadDogs, ocasional cargo, and AF1 until November....-, but if Chicago does not claim the name, why not!



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User currently offlinedisplane From United States of America, joined May 2005, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 77, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7185 times:

My guess is that Obama will get a warship named after him first before an airport. But I'm like sot people if he does get an airport it will be HNL- his birthplace.

User currently offlineCalebWilliams From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 78, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7159 times:

Quoting TrnsWrld (Reply 75):

Even though its nothing more than a name, I sure hope they dont name a Chicago airport after Obama. I do not support that man and certainly didnt vote for him. Anyway, like others above have stated I dont think he is tied to Chicago enough for that to happen. He certainly wasnt born or raised here thats for sure. If i remember correctly he was born in Hawaii, then went to Indonesia at a young age, then back to Hawaii, then wherever he went to college.

Just a point of information, Obama became involved in Chicago in June 1985 or. (See: http://www.tnr.com/article/the-agita...amas-unlikely-political-education) Or about 23.5 years between then and when he became president in Jan. 2008. I do understand that he wasn't there continuously during that time, but probably more on than off between 1991 or so and 2006 when he started campaigning for pres.



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User currently onlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8771 posts, RR: 42
Reply 79, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7091 times:

What is the deal with naming airports after living people? I find it highly inappropriate, particular so in the case of DCA whose purported name is just an extended middle finger.


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User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5854 posts, RR: 6
Reply 80, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 7098 times:

Quoting RDH3E (Reply 41):
But I'd guess that most of the users of DCA probably don't mind the name. The demographics of DC are quite interesting as you probably know.

In DC, what you call the airport is a large clue to your political orientation.

And 85% or so of DC residents are Democrats. (The metro area as a whole is much more politically diverse, but most Republicans live in the 'burbs, and tend to use Dulles.)


User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4416 posts, RR: 2
Reply 81, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6977 times:

Quoting SixtySeven (Reply 17):
Funny this about Reagan. When I used to fly to DCA after the name changed from National, the ATC guys would not acknowledge the name change. Their beef with RR was that deep. If you asked a second time on check in they'd say something like "This is Washington national tower, cleared to land."

Would not even acknowledge Reagan's name. They hate him and always will.

It would not have anything to do with them being fired by Reagan and forcing them to reapply for their old jobs at a lower rate of pay of course?



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User currently offlinemicstatic From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 82, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6882 times:

Quoting AADC10 (Reply 72):
Democratic politicians mostly get smaller airports that are trying to attract attention, so there will probably not be a big push for HNL either.

Well this is not completely true. Busiest airport in the US=ATL. Hartsfield and Jackson both democrats.



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User currently offlinemilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2012 posts, RR: 6
Reply 83, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 6869 times:

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 5):
African American President overrides WW2 in a city that is overwhelmingly minority in terms of political will.

Chicago is not "minority in terms of political will," and Chicago does not rename things. Obama will have things named after him in Chicago, but O'Hare and Midway Airports will remain O'Hare and Midway. There has only been one African American Mayor in Chicago, Harold Washington and that was a long long time ago.

Quoting jfklganyc (Reply 5):
Case in point Atlanta Hartsfield...doesn't that have Jackson in it now?

Atlanta, on the other hand is a majority African American city and has not had a white mayor in 40 years.

Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 77):
Now, admittedly that would not be a very visible name, as the biggest a/c there is a CRJ200 (!) -except for Allegiant's MadDogs, ocasional cargo, and AF1 until November....-, but if Chicago does not claim the name, why not!
CID has E-170's and E-190's to DEN, and CRJ-700's to ORD

[Edited 2012-12-11 15:34:49]

User currently offlinemilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2012 posts, RR: 6
Reply 84, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6811 times:

Quoting kordcj (Reply 68):
As a native Chicagoan, I'd hate to see O'Hare renamed after Obama. Little was known about Obama until the early 2000s. The only name change I'd agree with for ORD is Richard Daley International Airport. Leave out the middle initial to acknowledge both of them. They both saw the value in the airport for the city, and did all they could (ethical or not who knows) to make sure that ORD would thrive and expand.

They are never going to change the name of O'Hare, who like Daley was Irish, and who was a real war hero and the first Congressional Medal of Honor winner in WWII to Daley or anything else. Colonel Robert McCormick, owner of the Tribune and a member of the family that owned International Harvester, suggested the name change when ORD was an almost abandoned military field in 1949. ORD didn't get any commercial flights until 1955 and until jets in 1959, only saw a flight or two a day per airline.


User currently offline777ord From United States of America, joined May 2010, 550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 85, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6705 times:

We already changed the SEARS tower name... Please not the airports!! :-p

I like calling them what they are now. But, it does make a good point from the original poster!


User currently offlineWROORD From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 972 posts, RR: 0
Reply 86, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6523 times:

Quoting SixtySeven (Reply 17):
Would not even acknowledge Reagan's name. They hate him and always will.

That is not because this is DC as someone said earlier, but rather what he did during the air traffic controllers strike.

As for Obama I do not think that he will have an airport named after him in US. I will just stop here as this is not a political site. Anyways Carter does not have any airport named after him.


User currently offlinebjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 3695 posts, RR: 2
Reply 87, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 6449 times:

Quoting WROORD (Reply 87):
s Carter does not have any airport named after

Yes he does, Jimmy Carter Regional Airport (ACJ) in Americus, GA.



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User currently offlineCIDFlyer From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 2362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 88, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6244 times:

Quoting YULWinterSkies (Reply 77):
Considering that his path to the White House all started in Iowa (Iowa City in particular) with the Democrat primaries in '08, and considering the countless trips he did to the Hawkeye state, his name should go to CID.That would be a welcome change from the currently boring "Eastern Iowa Airport".Now, admittedly that would not be a very visible name, as the biggest a/c there is a CRJ200 (!) -except for Allegiant's MadDogs, ocasional cargo, and AF1 until November....-, but if Chicago does not claim the name, why not!

you forgot F9's E90's and soon to be A320  


User currently onlinejetpixx From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 871 posts, RR: 2
Reply 89, posted (2 years 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 6123 times:

I dislike this president, but I feel he should have an airport named after him...

How about Chicago-Gary Obama International Airport (GYY), or maybe the Chicago-Peotone Obama International Airport -  


User currently offlineSixtySeven From Canada, joined Nov 2006, 344 posts, RR: 3
Reply 90, posted (2 years 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5586 times:

Quoting kgaiflyer (Reply 75):
Yes, but Dorval is the municipality in which Trudeau airport is located.

As the airport occupies 60% of the city's land, the city would also have to be renamed, yes?

Not the point. My point is that they still call it Dorval. The new name wasnt adopted by the public- the majority anyways.

Oddly enough YYZ is Pearson. Most people refer to it as Toronto. It's in the City of Mississauga.

Quoting WROORD (Reply 87):
That is not because this is DC as someone said earlier, but rather what he did during the air traffic controllers strike.

I wouldn't exactly have much of a love for him either. Firing the whole lot of them wasn't very endearing.



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User currently offlineredzeppelin From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 638 posts, RR: 0
Reply 91, posted (2 years 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5444 times:

I suggested HNL earlier in the thread, but on second thought, what about IAD gettng the Obama name someday? "Obama Internatonal" could serve as a nice counterbalance to Reagan National. Of course, then we would have some major math to do to figure out how Thurgood Marshall affects that balance at BWI...


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23308 posts, RR: 20
Reply 92, posted (2 years 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5390 times:

Quoting milesrich (Reply 84):
Chicago does not rename things.

This. It takes someone who has lived in Chicago to understand. Truth be told, I'm not sure even transplants to Chicago get it - you may have to be a native. There's a reason that, for all of his moneymaking schemes, Tom Ricketts has not attempted to rename Wrigley. There's a reason the Chicago Stadium and Soldier Field never got names and the United Center has only ever had one. It's tough to explain, but how you put it is probably as succinct as possible.



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User currently offlineD L X From United States of America, joined May 1999, 11581 posts, RR: 52
Reply 93, posted (2 years 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5176 times:

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 81):
In DC, what you call the airport is a large clue to your political orientation.

It's pretty standard regardless of political affiliation. If you're a local, it's probably National. If you're a newcomer, it's probably Reagan.



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User currently offlineAesma From Reunion, joined Nov 2009, 6959 posts, RR: 12
Reply 94, posted (2 years 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 5104 times:

To me it's best to name something new built, if possible the airport/building/park/town should have been decided by the person it is named after.

For example CDG was launched in 1964 when Charles de Gaulle was president.

Then, I feel it is common decency to wait for the death of that person, but that's just me.



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User currently offlineBeardown91737 From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 609 posts, RR: 0
Reply 95, posted (2 years 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4939 times:

Quoting HNLPointShoot (Reply 22):
He's the first President to have been born in Hawaii, and the first President to come from Illinois since Reconstruction (Ulysses S. Grant), so I fail to see how his ethnicity is relevant.

Ronald Reagan was born in Dixon, IL. He went to HS in that area, and he was the radio announcer for the Cubs. The I-88 tollway in Illinois is named for him.

Quoting lightsaber (Reply 24):
Am I the only one who really likes the current names for the Chicago airports? Is there really any political will to do this? IMHO, it would be simpler to pick an airfield with a name that isn't as well known. Hey, LAX needs a name besides "LAX."

I also like the names. No political will to change the names.

Interesting suggestion about LAX since Obama had loads of support in LA County. Hope this isn't too far off topic, but he also has some LAX-connected notoriety because of the traffic tie-ups associated with his visits to LA. After the names "Obama-jam" and "Obamageddon" surfaced, the White House and Secret Service started moving him by Marine One as much as they could in LA to mitigate the ill will generated by the traffic tie-ups, even among his supporters.



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User currently offlinerwessel From United States of America, joined Jan 2007, 2416 posts, RR: 2
Reply 96, posted (2 years 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4901 times:
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Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 94):
This. It takes someone who has lived in Chicago to understand. Truth be told, I'm not sure even transplants to Chicago get it - you may have to be a native. There's a reason that, for all of his moneymaking schemes, Tom Ricketts has not attempted to rename Wrigley. There's a reason the Chicago Stadium and Soldier Field never got names and the United Center has only ever had one. It's tough to explain, but how you put it is probably as succinct as possible.

Chicagoans are still upset at Macy's for renaming Marshal Field's. Sales were off at the renamed stores for years. They could have made a trifling concession to 140 years of Chicago history and called it "Macy's Marshal Field's", and printed some green shopping bags, and everyone would have been OK. The Bank of Montreal clearly learned from Macy's lesson when they bought Harris, a long time Chicago banking fixture, and slapped "BMO Harris" signs on all the branches - and I've heard nary a peep.


User currently offlinebond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5455 posts, RR: 8
Reply 97, posted (2 years 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 4813 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 94):
Chicago does not rename things.

This. It takes someone who has lived in Chicago to understand. Truth be told, I'm not sure even transplants to Chicago get it - you may have to be a native. There's a reason that, for all of his moneymaking schemes, Tom Ricketts has not attempted to rename Wrigley. There's a reason the Chicago Stadium and Soldier Field never got names and the United Center has only ever had one. It's tough to explain, but how you put it is probably as succinct as possible.

I'm afraid Chicago is little different from other cities when it comes to this. United Airlines pays $2 million/year for naming rights on the United Center, which is how it usually works for buildings with corporate names (Wrigley field excepted). ....Willis Tower, Aon Center, Franklin Center, all renamed. Soldier Field is owned by the city, hence no corporate name.


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23308 posts, RR: 20
Reply 98, posted (2 years 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4743 times:

Quoting bond007 (Reply 101):
...Willis Tower, Aon Center, Franklin Center, all renamed.

. . . but no one uses the names, so it's a huge waste of money. I had to google the Franklin Center, and when you say "Aon Center" to me, I think of the old Zenith headquarters in Glenview. You also ignore some of the obvious counterexamples like One Prudential Plaza (though that name has been tweaked), the Wrigley Building and Tribune Tower.

Quoting bond007 (Reply 101):
Soldier Field is owned by the city, hence no corporate name.

And ORD and MDW are owned by the city. Haven't you proven my point?



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User currently offlineKaiarahi From Canada, joined Jul 2009, 3072 posts, RR: 37
Reply 99, posted (2 years 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4720 times:

Quoting FLDude (Reply 100):
Quoting Kaiarahi (Reply 49):
But Obama will get an airport named after him and it won't replace anyone else's monument. HNL will probably end up officially name Barack Obama Honolulu International Airport. Hawaii is not the home to too many birthers or other crackpots who think our President is a Muslim, a Marxist, or even a Socialist, let alone a Nazi.

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User currently offlinekngkyle From United States of America, joined exactly 8 years ago today! , 414 posts, RR: 1
Reply 100, posted (2 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4683 times:
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I think 'United Tower' would be much more accepted by the community than 'Willis Tower'. At least United is a local company with their headquarters and main operations in the building. Plus 'United' isn't a weird and easily mocked name/word like Willis. I wonder how long the contract is for the current name...

User currently offline777ord From United States of America, joined May 2010, 550 posts, RR: 2
Reply 101, posted (2 years 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4639 times:

Quoting kngkyle (Reply 104):

haha! Sounds like some other rumor's around the 27th floor of NOC in WHQ! But, seeing as United was paid a nice sum of money to relocate to Chicago, I am not surprised SHOULD they invest in the building.... A building that is just over 50% occupied....


User currently offlineRDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1827 posts, RR: 3
Reply 102, posted (2 years 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4622 times:

Quoting kngkyle (Reply 104):
I wonder how long the contract is for the current name...

2023, and they didn't pay a dime for the naming rights.


User currently offlinebond007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 5455 posts, RR: 8
Reply 103, posted (2 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4522 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 102):
Haven't you proven my point?

Sorry, I thought your point was that Chicago did NOT rename things ... I must have misunderstood  
...I mentioned 3 that had already, and reasons why the other's perhaps didn't.

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 102):
. . . but no one uses the names, so it's a huge waste of money

As for nobody using the names, we'll see in another 10 years!
We've all mentioned Willis Tower so we all know about it obviously.
...and waste of money, well if you buy the building then it costs you nothing for free corporate advertising. If you could, of course you would change the name to your company's.

BUT .... little of this discussion is relevant for Airports!


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User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23308 posts, RR: 20
Reply 104, posted (2 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4511 times:

Quoting bond007 (Reply 107):
Sorry, I thought your point was that Chicago did NOT rename things ... I must have misunderstood

Yes. The City doesn't rename things it owns, like Soldier Field, O'Hare Field, and Midway Airport. I'll grant you that the words after O'Hare have changed, and I believe MDW is now Midway International, but nothing substantive has changed in any of the city owned landmarks. Navy Pier and McCormick Place, which are publicly-owned but not by the City, have also kept their names forever.



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User currently offlinemilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2012 posts, RR: 6
Reply 105, posted (2 years 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4465 times:

Quoting Beardown91737 (Reply 98):
Ronald Reagan was born in Dixon, IL. He went to HS in that area, and he was the radio announcer for the Cubs. The I-88 tollway in Illinois is named for him.

While Ronald Reagan spent many of his boyhood years in Dixon, he was born in Tampico, IL, in Whiteside County, which is near Prophetstown and south of Sterling - Rock Falls, and about 35 miles NE of the Quad Cities, where Reagan worked for WOC and its sister station, WHO in Des Moines, both owned by B. J. Palmer of Chiropractic fame. It was while in Iowa working for Palmer that he announced Chicago Cubs games via wire. He never worked the press box at Wrigley. Reagan also spent his some boyhood years in Galesburg.


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Reply 106, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4397 times:

Quoting Kaiarahi (Reply 103):
You have wrongly attributed this post to me

Sometimes the a.net software gets it wrong when you quote somebody. I've had it happen to me a few times.


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Reply 107, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4396 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 110):
Sometimes the a.net software gets it wrong when you quote somebody. I've had it happen to me a few times.

It's not a matter of the "a.net software." Its behavior is predictable: it says you are quoting the post directly below whichever "Quote Selected Text" button you click. When this happens it is a result of the user clicking the wrong "Quote Selected Text" button.

Is that a great system? No. But it always works the same way.


User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4435 posts, RR: 6
Reply 108, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 4391 times:
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