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BA B787 And A380 Seating  
User currently offlineLofty From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2008, 323 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 14965 times:

BA have announced the new configs for the B787 and A380

B787 214 seats
Club World - 35 in 2 3 2
World travller plus - 25 in 2 3 2
World Travller - 154 in 3 3 3

A380 469
Main Deck
Enhanced First - 14
Club World - 44 in 2 4 2
World Travller - 199 in 3 4 3
Upper Deck
Club World - 53 in 2 3 2
World Travller Plus - 55 in 2 3 2
World Travller - 104 in 2 4 2

With the excption of Enhanced First all will have the same seats as the current B777-300

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User currently onlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 526 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 14839 times:

I look forward to seeing the first photos of the Enhanced First!

User currently offlineAirbusA6 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 2038 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 14812 times:

Disappointing that their 787s will be 9Y, though the good news is that there's a decent sized Y section upstairs on the A380, as this 2-4-2 section is VERY popular.


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User currently offlineaerolover27 From UK - England, joined May 2012, 16 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 14707 times:

wat routes are BA flying the A380s?

User currently offlinetcxdegsy From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2006, 518 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 14453 times:

Intruiged what the "Enhanced" element of First will be!


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User currently offlineseansasLCY From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2007, 903 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 14449 times:

Seat maps can be found here http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...-a380s-and-214-seat-787-8s-380056/

User currently offlineBongodog1964 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 3695 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 14298 times:

Interesting that BA being an airline which has for the past few years operated its long haul fleet with the lowest passenger densities around, will now fit 60 or more passengers onto an A380 compared to Korean Air

User currently offlineZSOFN From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2005, 1413 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 14283 times:

Quoting Bongodog1964 (Reply 6):
Interesting that BA being an airline which has for the past few years operated its long haul fleet with the lowest passenger densities around, will now fit 60 or more passengers onto an A380 compared to Korean Air

Still fewer seats compared to SQ, EK, AF or LH.


User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1527 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 14259 times:

There's much more information and quotes from Willy Walsh on Business Traveller.

http://www.businesstraveller.com/new.../ba-b787-and-a380-layout-confirmed

Pity that BA has decided to configure Y class 3-3-3 on its B787 but I suppose that's to be expected, given that every other carrier (except NH/JL) have adopted that layout.

Walsh says that the exact seat plans of another 16 x B787-9 aircraft on order for delivery in 2015 have yet to be finalised. These planes could have three or four cabin layouts.


User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8517 posts, RR: 6
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 14223 times:
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Was waiting for a new Club World on the A380 and 787, same old seats. BA has a chance to enhance its J class with the arrival of the new planes and seems stuck in 2000.

User currently offlinescrappy27 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 14161 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 9):
seems stuck in 2000.

2nd generation flat beds in CW were introduced around 2007


User currently offlineunityofsaints From Ireland, joined Nov 2011, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 14075 times:

Quoting Lofty (Thread starter):
World Travller - 104 in 2 4 2

Upper deck Y, always a treat but unfortunately far too rare (until now!)


User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8517 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 14044 times:
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Quoting scrappy27 (Reply 10):
Quoting jfk777 (Reply 9):
seems stuck in 2000.

2nd generation flat beds in CW were introduced around 2007

2007 was a generation ago in the arms race of F and J seats, thanks for pointing out BA is stuck in the last decade.


User currently offlineLHRFlyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2010, 823 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 14030 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 9):
Was waiting for a new Club World on the A380 and 787, same old seats. BA has a chance to enhance its J class with the arrival of the new planes and seems stuck in 2000.

You are wrong. The seats will not be the same as the existing First and CW seats.


User currently offlineOzGlobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2732 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 13870 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 12):
Quoting scrappy27 (Reply 10):
Quoting jfk777 (Reply 9):
seems stuck in 2000.

2nd generation flat beds in CW were introduced around 2007

2007 was a generation ago in the arms race of F and J seats, thanks for pointing out BA is stuck in the last decade.

That's a funny accusation to level at BA from the US, where J was stuck 3 generations behind until about 2 years ago. BA has a good product which balances passenger comfort with density to generate yield. It could probably always be improved, but US carriers are making their first inroads into a flat bed in international J, whereas BA was already there 12 or 13 years ago...



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User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8517 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 13693 times:
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Quoting OzGlobal (Reply 14):
That's a funny accusation to level at BA from the US, where J was stuck 3 generations behind until about 2 years ago. BA has a good product which balances passenger comfort with density to generate yield. It could probably always be improved, but US carriers are making their first inroads into a flat bed in international J, whereas BA was already there 12 or 13 years ago...

Sadly you are mostly right. But the same could be sad of your French airline and its cousin, KLM.


User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 13577 times:

I still don't get the 2-3-2 config in C on the 787s and 2-4-2 config on the A380s. I read good reviews concerning BA C seats, but I don't get how these seats can be comfy, and wide enough for a true C class.


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User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3367 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 13525 times:

Looking at the seat map of the A380, what's with the missing seat in the centre of Y ?


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31444 posts, RR: 85
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 13481 times:
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Quoting LY777 (Reply 16):
I still don't get the 2-3-2 config in C on the 787s and 2-4-2 config on the A380s. I read good reviews concerning BA C seats, but I don't get how these seats can be comfy, and wide enough for a true C class.

Per SeatGutu the Club World seat on the 777-300ER is 21" wide at 2+4+2, which is "industry-standard" for a Business Class seat (sans SQ, but they use a unique style).


User currently offlineOzGlobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2732 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 13370 times:

Quoting jfk777 (Reply 15):
Quoting OzGlobal (Reply 14):
That's a funny accusation to level at BA from the US, where J was stuck 3 generations behind until about 2 years ago. BA has a good product which balances passenger comfort with density to generate yield. It could probably always be improved, but US carriers are making their first inroads into a flat bed in international J, whereas BA was already there 12 or 13 years ago...

Sadly you are mostly right. But the same could be sad of your French airline and its cousin, KLM.

And another reason I don't fly AF on long haul, but at least they've had angled lie flat for 10 years. As for KLM on long haul...   



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User currently offlineGeo772 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 13188 times:

Quoting LY777 (Reply 16):
I still don't get the 2-3-2 config in C on the 787s and 2-4-2 config on the A380s. I read good reviews concerning BA C seats, but I don't get how these seats can be comfy, and wide enough for a true C class.

Pretty comfy in my opinion. While there will always be airlines that offer a plusher product, the BA Club World cabin is extremely good. Understated and functional, rather than flamboyant and luxurious.
I am intrigued though about what the centre seat in the 3 will be like.

Quoting readytotaxi (Reply 17):
Looking at the seat map of the A380, what's with the missing seat in the centre of Y ?

That is an escape hatch for the lower crew rest compartment. You'll find the exact same thing on Singapore.



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User currently offlinescrappy27 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 13069 times:

It's all good knocking BA... but many people seem to forget the fact that they were the airline that introduced the flat bed to business class... and many airlines followed suit!

User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9836 posts, RR: 52
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12978 times:

Quoting LY777 (Reply 16):
I still don't get the 2-3-2 config in C on the 787s and 2-4-2 config on the A380s. I read good reviews concerning BA C seats, but I don't get how these seats can be comfy, and wide enough for a true C class.

The modern seats have variable seat width. It’s wider at the seat cushion and elbows and narrower at the footwell. That is what all the latest staggered seating designs are all about. The old classic 2-3-2 recliner seats wasted a lot of space. The staggered seats reduce wasted space in the arm rests and foot area. Tray tables are also no longer stored in armrests, but rather take up space that had been for the foot area. The downside is there is far less storage space.

BA uses reverse directions to give adequate width. The Thompson seat design that most airlines are choosing on their A380s are essentially the same 8 abreast width that BA has. Each row only has 4 seats in it, but the rows are only 40’’ of pitch instead of 78’’ on BA. The general setup is that the shoulders are the widest part of the seat and lineup with the foot area of the next person’s seat.

The only high density design not using this philosophy is PreMerger United which got the width by having narrow armrests and reverse direction seats with variable aisle width (if you look down the aisle in UA, it jogs back and forth a bit).

Once you sit in the latest seats, you'll notice a tight foot area, but at elbow width, the seats are just as wide.



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User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3367 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12924 times:

Quoting Geo772 (Reply 20):
That is an escape hatch for the lower crew rest compartment. You'll find the exact same thing on Singapore.

Thank you, didn't know that one.  



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User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1527 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 12910 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 22):
Once you sit in the latest seats, you'll notice a tight foot area, but at elbow width, the seats are just as wide.

Roseflyer - What you say is very interesting and logical. However I wonder if the average traveller will understand ? For someone planning to fly the B787 and faced with a choice between QR's 1-2-1 and BA's 2-3-2 layout, would he or she understand these fine points you mention ?


User currently offlineHeavierthanair From Switzerland, joined Oct 2000, 825 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 13245 times:

G'day

I find the loo err.... lavatory arrangement in the economy sections of the BA A 380 leaves to be desired. There only seem to be two lavatories for 199 world traveller's on the lower floor, there seem to be four on the upper floor for 104 world traveller's which seems more adequate, but the doors of two of them seem to be right in front of a seat row

http://www.flightglobal.com/Assets/GetAsset.aspx?ItemID=48942

The upper floor also shows not enough lavatories for Club, so it appears the final configuration is not quite defined yet.

Small details I admit, but they can become quite important on longer journeys  


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User currently offlinemotorhussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3345 posts, RR: 9
Reply 26, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12861 times:

In the A380, how does one access a colleague if you're in separate Business class cabins?

And, as with others, am looking forward to the seeing the enhancements in First.



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User currently offlineTardis From UK - England, joined Dec 2012, 40 posts, RR: 0
Reply 27, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 13006 times:

I can't wait to see the 787 in BA colours!

User currently offlinescrappy27 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 12994 times:

Will the 787 engines be white, as in most the the already published pics?? Or can be paint them blue like the rest of the fleet??

User currently offlinedeltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1664 posts, RR: 1
Reply 29, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11823 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 1):
as this 2-4-2 section is VERY popular.

Yes I would think. Will BA sale these at a slight premium or will they be open to first come first serve at online check in like everything else?

As far as I know BA is the first airline to put such an extensive economy offering on the upper deck. AF has the premium and a small normal economy, Lufthansa has none, Qantas has the premium economy and Emirates has none.


User currently offlinetheginge From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2006, 1136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 30, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11497 times:

Quoting scrappy27 (Reply 28):
Will the 787 engines be white, as in most the the already published pics?? Or can be paint them blue like the rest of the fleet??

Has been mentioned on other threads, something to do with the material they are made out of, its not very easy to paint without losing some of its aerodynamic properties.


User currently offlineLondonCity From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2008, 1527 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 11516 times:

Quoting deltaflyertoo (Reply 29):
As far as I know BA is the first airline to put such an extensive economy offering on the upper deck.

I believe you are correct. TG and MH also have a Y class zone on the upper deck. MH's zone accommodates 70 passengers. Don't some of SQ's original A380s still feature a small Y cabin upstairs too ?


User currently offlineYULWinterSkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 2185 posts, RR: 5
Reply 32, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 10721 times:

Quoting motorhussy (Reply 26):
In the A380, how does one access a colleague if you're in separate Business class cabins?

Staircase? If through the first class, I can see the airlines being reluctant to have J pax using them, but well, it's not like J pax will spend 8 hours running up and down the stair case anyway (at least one would expect - with some pax, you never know!).
However, if traveling with a colleague in J, I would expect the airline to be able to accommodate both people on the same floor, at the very least. It is J class, not cattle class, after all. Yes, I understand last minute changes, last minute check-ins, etc... etc... but we aren't talking cheap fares.
Airlines who do not understand customer service have not much to do in the J class business, imo.



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 26029 posts, RR: 22
Reply 33, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 10549 times:

Quoting LY777 (Reply 16):
I still don't get the 2-3-2 config in C on the 787s and 2-4-2 config on the A380s. I read good reviews concerning BA C seats, but I don't get how these seats can be comfy, and wide enough for a true C class.

They're wide enough because of the alternating forward-backward arrangement. That permits the seat cushion to be wider since you don't need as much width for your legs. The seats wouldn't fit if they all faced forward. It also permits them to generate a lot more revenue from the same real estate since more they can install more seats in the same area than if all the seats faced forward with fewer seats abreast.

The only negative I've seen from the BA J layout is that window seat passengers all face backwards which some passengers probably don't like, and all window seat (and middle seat) passengers (except a very few near the bulkheads) have to climb over a sleeping passenger's legs if they wish to leave their seat during the flight.

I personally prefer the all-forward facing configuration used by LX and a few others with alternating 1-2-1, 2-2-1 rows on A330/340s, which permits all except a few passengers to have direct aisle access and doesn't require as much seat pitch as the BA configuration due to the way your feet slot into the space next to the offset seat in front.


User currently offlineAtlflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 740 posts, RR: 0
Reply 34, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 10438 times:

Isn't boarding going to be a mess with so many different classes scattered on the upper and lower deck?

User currently offlineWindowseater From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 35, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 9896 times:

I'm getting a good feeling about the way BA have configured their A380s, particularly the CW cabin in the upper deck.

Comparing with what's out there already on upper deck A380s in J class:

- 76 seats on EK
- 98 seats on LH
- 60 seats on SQ
- 94 seats on KE
- 70 seats on CZ

I think the guys at BA's aircraft configuration and planning teams should be happy with the way they've chosen to configure and balance the premium and mass class factor on their A380s.

Can't wait to try the A380 on BA!

Windowseater

[Edited 2012-12-11 16:07:48]


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User currently offlineRoseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 9836 posts, RR: 52
Reply 36, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 9182 times:

Quoting LondonCity (Reply 24):

Roseflyer - What you say is very interesting and logical. However I wonder if the average traveller will understand ? For someone planning to fly the B787 and faced with a choice between QR's 1-2-1 and BA's 2-3-2 layout, would he or she understand these fine points you mention ?

I think it may scare some people, but in the end, it is really all about seat comfort.

UA's 2-4-2 does not seem good, and in reality if you are in a middle seat it isn't, but 75% of the passengers have a good seat. BA is somewhat similar although sometimes people prefer the middle seats since it is like a private cabin.



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User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 3020 posts, RR: 2
Reply 37, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 8953 times:

Quoting Atlflyer (Reply 34):
Isn't boarding going to be a mess with so many different classes scattered on the upper and lower deck?

Definitely.

It looks to me like the middle J seat in the new blocks of 3 has a nice little storage/work surface next to it. I'm definitely interested to see what that's about, 'Enhanced First' will just be a slightly more spacious version of the seat they already have.


User currently offlinefrigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1715 posts, RR: 1
Reply 38, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 6996 times:

Quoting LondonCity (Reply 31):
Quoting deltaflyertoo (Reply 29):As far as I know BA is the first airline to put such an extensive economy offering on the upper deck.
I believe you are correct. TG and MH also have a Y class zone on the upper deck. MH's zone accommodates 70 passengers. Don't some of SQ's original A380s still feature a small Y cabin upstairs too ?

Only SQ's newest A380's have no Y on the upper deck. Not sure about the regs though.

AF has an Y section on the upper deck as well. Was early to book and claim a window seat at the emergency exit    What no-one told me however, was that the overhead bin there is extremely small (it resembles a letterbox, the opening is just wide enough to accommodate a laptop bag), and the curvature of the fuselage makes leaving your seat without bumping your head quite a challenge... Oh, and the window was behind the seat.   

An unexpected positive however was the excellent crew, very enthusiastic   



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User currently offlineLH506 From Ecuador, joined May 2007, 466 posts, RR: 0
Reply 39, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6712 times:

Quoting OzGlobal (Reply 19):
As for KLM on long haul...

It is the worst seat out there   Weren't they going to get a new seat at some point in time??



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User currently offlineSKAirbus From Norway, joined Oct 2007, 1812 posts, RR: 1
Reply 40, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6432 times:

Quoting LondonCity (Reply 31):
I believe you are correct. TG and MH also have a Y class zone on the upper deck. MH's zone accommodates 70 passengers. Don't some of SQ's original A380s still feature a small Y cabin upstairs too ?

I hope British Airways do the honourable thing and follow MH's example, not allowing families with young children to sit on the upper deck, providing peace and quiet to adult/single travellers.

Great philosophy to sit families downstairs.



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User currently offlinenimool From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2012, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 41, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 5979 times:

Any idea when will they get the delivery of their 787?
i know that the A380 is due to be on service in April 2013.



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User currently offlinescrappy27 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2008, 281 posts, RR: 0
Reply 42, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 5714 times:

Quoting nimool (Reply 41):
Any idea when will they get the delivery of their 787?
i know that the A380 is due to be on service in April 2013.

1st 787 due to be delivered in May 2013
1st A380 due in July 2013
next additional 777-300 due September 2013


User currently offlinejumpjets From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 892 posts, RR: 0
Reply 43, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5531 times:

Quoting Atlflyer (Reply 34):
Isn't boarding going to be a mess with so many different classes scattered on the upper and lower deck?

I wondered that myself - then I thought that by mixing it up on both levels it gives a more even balance [or less uneven] balance in terms of loading each level. There is less pressure on the lower level boarding gates without especially increasing the upper level boarding.

Also by splitting the classes between two levels, especially for J, it could improve the passenger flying experience as you will be flying in a smaller, more 'exclusive' cabin than if all 97 J seats were in one cabin together.


User currently offlinefrigatebird From Netherlands, joined Jun 2008, 1715 posts, RR: 1
Reply 44, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5217 times:

Quoting Atlflyer (Reply 34):
Isn't boarding going to be a mess with so many different classes scattered on the upper and lower deck?

Not if the boarding pass clearly states UPPER DECK and LOWER DECK, and of course, upper and lower decks are clearly indicated on the boarding ramp. Most pax will take notice (No, not everyone..    )



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User currently offlineLY777 From France, joined Nov 2005, 2744 posts, RR: 2
Reply 45, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4808 times:

Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 22):

Thanks for the explanation.
I am not convinced by BA product though. I prefer by FAR the reverse herringbone seats.
And I wouldn't like reverse directions for seats.



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User currently offlinebwaflyer From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 46, posted (2 years 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 4745 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 33):
I personally prefer the all-forward facing configuration used by LX and a few others with alternating 1-2-1, 2-2-1 rows on A330/340s, which permits all except a few passengers to have direct aisle access and doesn't require as much seat pitch as the BA configuration due to the way your feet slot into the space next to the offset seat in front.

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