ryanrap1 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 154 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2320 times:
I know tha VX has made it clear that they are going to focus on their current routes, and develop their current cities, to become more established, but it would be incredible to see them at Houstons IAH or HOU!
southwest737500 From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 594 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2321 times:
I wish VX came to CLT
Planes I've been on: Dash8,CRJ 200,CRJ 700,CRJ 900,ERJ 175, ERJ 190, 717,732,733,734,735,737,738.A319,A320,A321,762,763
wedgetail737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5526 posts, RR: 5 Reply 2, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2193 times:
deltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1383 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2188 times:
I love VX at DFW. It allows me to fly AA to LAX and SFO at a cheaper price
Yes, that would be nice wouldn't it? I bet after the frequency adjustments and EWR launch, VX might just try to take a stab at improving their bottom line.
ItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 948 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2067 times:
Quoting deltaffindfw (Reply 4):
I love VX at DFW. It allows me to fly AA to LAX and SFO at a cheaper price
Therein lies the problem: VX enters fortress markets with 3 or 4 flights vs 10-15 plus legacy. Legacy matches fare, has huge captive FF base and aforementioned frequencies = VX looses shorts, socks and tee shirt. Then NK comes in and sops up the super price sensative demographic. Wise man says: VX has great product with no place to fly,
panam330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2601 posts, RR: 10 Reply 8, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 1951 times:
Quoting ItalianFlyer (Reply 7): Therein lies the problem: VX enters fortress markets with 3 or 4 flights vs 10-15 plus legacy. Legacy matches fare, has huge captive FF base and aforementioned frequencies = VX looses shorts, socks and tee shirt. Then NK comes in and sops up the super price sensative demographic. Wise man says: VX has great product with no place to fly,
According to those "in the know" on here, and elsewhere, DFW does quite well and is profitable for them. Point made, though. In the case of Houston, VX could replicate what they've done up in Dallas. People aren't exactly thrilled with UA these days, and VX would do well pillaging some of the regular west coast pax. Though, we'll see if they put their money where their mouth is when forced to give up MileagePlus miles.
ItalianFlyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 948 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 1824 times:
Quoting panam330 (Reply 8): Though, we'll see if they put their money where their mouth is when forced to give up MileagePlus miles.
Exactly....I understand that DFW has been a black spot in their sea of red and perhaps the same premium leakage that AA suffered in the DFW area may happen in IAH. The percentage is tricky and I'm sure involves mathematic statistic modeling that is way above my pay grade LOL. Lets say 3% of premium FF's are willing to walk away from their legacy and use VX. Is that 3% enough to cover the cost of opening a market and hopefully make a profit? I dunno.
I'd love to see competition....don't get me wrong. I just don't know if VX has the cash on hand to try any more science experiments. I feel for them for being the a nightmare catch 22...they are getting squeezed on most fronts with their current route structure but do not have the financial wherewithal to test new markets.
IAHWorldflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 99 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1147 times:
I don't think Houston is perceived as "cool" enough by VX to warrant service. They seem to select their markets based on a bi-coastal model, with ORD and DFW being their only mid-continent cities.
That said, I do wonder if UA has been worried about future competition, as IAH-SFO fares were down to the $220r/t level from late September until the end of November. UA generally runs fares on that route at the $400 level.
IAH59 From Pakistan, joined Nov 2012, 382 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1132 times:
That would be a nice line up at Terminal A at IAH. If Virgin America flew from IAH to one of United top ten busiest destination it will tick off United.
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