KL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 4976 posts, RR: 14 Posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1761 times:
Ryanair will invest $70 million in Eindhoven airport in the Netherlands, making it a base for the airline, Chief Executive Michael O'Leary said on Tuesday.
factsonly From Montserrat, joined Aug 2012, 304 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1748 times:
RYANAIR ANNOUNCES NEW EINDHOVEN BASE (NO 52)
31 ROUTES (4 NEW ROUTES) & 1.7m PAX P.A. AT RYANAIR’S 2ND DUTCH BASE
Ryanair, Europe’s only ultra-low cost airline, today (11 Dec) announced it would open its 52nd base (2nd Dutch base) at Eindhoven in April 2013 with one based aircraft as it invests over $70 million at Eindhoven Airport.
Ryanair will grow at Eindhoven as follows:
1 based aircraft
31 routes
4 new routes to/from Agadir, Bordeaux, Chania and Fez
Warsaw Modlin extended for summer season
Increased frequencies to/from Alicante, Faro, Ibiza, Malaga, Marrakech and Pisa
238 weekly flights (up 8%)
1.7m pax p.a (up 7%)
1,700* jobs at Eindhoven Airport
Ryanair celebrated its new Eindhoven base by launching a 100,000 seat sale with fares starting from £14 for travel across its European network in January which are available for booking until midnight (24:00hrs) Thur (13 Dec). Ryanair’s 4 new Eindhoven routes will begin in April and will go on sale on www.ryanair.com tomorrow.
BrouAviation From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 981 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1643 times:
Good news for EIN, I guess. The fact it wasn't a base was one of the things that made it practically useless for daytrips. EZY from AMS offers much better opportunities to various destinations for not really much more money. Will the aircraft based be assigned to a specific routing?
Quoting KL911 (Thread starter):
Ryanair will invest $70 million in Eindhoven airport in the Netherlands,
Where is that money going to go to? With 70 million you can build one heck of a lounge, but I doubt that is what they are going for..
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KL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 4976 posts, RR: 14 Reply 5, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1582 times:
Quoting BrouAviation (Reply 3): Where is that money going to go to? With 70 million you can build one heck of a lounge, but I doubt that is what they are going for..
I guess that is for the 737 incl crew and other staff. Although AFAIK the 737 will stay Irish registered.
" The European consumer would crawl naked over broken glass to get low fares." Michael O'Leary
Quoting david_itl,reply=4:Quoting david_itl (Reply 4):
Nope you are both wrong...
Taken from FR;s press release dated 12.07.11 from when they opened the MAN base:
"Ryanair, the world’s favourite airline, today (12th July) announced it would open its 45th base at Manchester in October 2011 initially with two based aircraft and 17 routes, growing to four aircraft and 26 routes by summer 2012. Ryanair’s new base will deliver up to 2m passengers p.a., 2,000 jobs and up to 260 weekly flights as Ryanair invests over $280 million at Manchester Airport."
$280m for 4 aircraft = $70m for 1 aircraft. Interesting?
MIAspotter From Spain, joined Nov 2001, 2272 posts, RR: 26 Reply 9, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1544 times:
Quoting KL911 (Reply 5): I guess that is for the 737 incl crew and other staff.
Hmm, if they are basing just one aircraft in EIN, I am sure they won´t need to hire many people, maybe what 4/6 pilots and about 16 crews? just for that one aircraft... keep in mind, some may be transferred from an existing base.
As for staff at the airport, if they already serve it, then they have people, and besides ramp crew and airport staff comes from a handling agent, not hired directly by FR.
Quoting KL911 (Reply 5): Although AFAIK the 737 will stay Irish registered.
Of course. are the GRO based 737s Spanish registered?
Oh dear. And this thread has, as expected, already rapidly declined.
How exactly?
I'm guessing it relates to the rapid assumption that it's all about subsidies - a rather tired and predictable position, and one not yet backed up with sources.
Of course, if anyone can demonstrate how the stated investment is incorrect, and what amounts will be subsidised, one can take it into account and discuss it sensibly. If not, it's just hot air and bluster - which is typical in all FR-related threads.
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KL911 From Ireland, joined Jul 2003, 4976 posts, RR: 14 Reply 12, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1465 times:
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 11): I'm guessing it relates to the rapid assumption that it's all about subsidies - a rather tired and predictable position, and one not yet backed up with sources.
Yes, rather childish behaviour from a few FR bashers here.
Anyway, Transavia today released the news that they will base 3 aircraft at EIN from Feb 2012. Both FR and HV have btw the same treatment at EIN.
According to press releases the 1 plane was the max Ryanair could base at EIN due to space restrictions. Does anyone know who else will RON at EIN besides 3x HV , 1x FR and 1x VG?
" The European consumer would crawl naked over broken glass to get low fares." Michael O'Leary
BrouAviation From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 981 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1417 times:
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 11):
Of course, if anyone can demonstrate how the stated investment is incorrect, and what amounts will be subsidised, one can take it into account and discuss it sensibly. If not, it's just hot air and bluster - which is typical in all FR-related threads.
As no onee one of you seems to be able to explain to me where the 70M USD is going to, I am going to presume the Ryanair statement is exactly that - hot air. (regarding the amount of money invested, of course)
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factsonly From Montserrat, joined Aug 2012, 304 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1411 times:
Quoting KL911 (Reply 1): According to the Ryanair website:
1 based aircraft
This is what other airlines call a night stop - crew in a hotel and out again next day. FR has two options:
(1) The crew overnights with the aircraft.
(2) An exchange of crews during the operating day as well, to have one early morning crew and one afternoon duty crew available.
Very much what FR is doing in MST, crews are actually domicilled in other stations but overnight in a MST hotel.
RussianJet From Kazakhstan, joined Jul 2007, 6276 posts, RR: 23 Reply 17, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1249 times:
Quoting BrouAviation (Reply 13): As no onee one of you seems to be able to explain to me where the 70M USD is going to, I am going to presume the Ryanair statement is exactly that - hot air. (regarding the amount of money invested, of course)
Really? Do you suppose that they get to base an aircraft there for free, and also get free handling and airport employees, and get crew for free, etc, etc, etc?
Seriously, it doesn't take a lot of imagination to start figuring out where such sums of money might be needed with such an expansion in flights. In any even, I take a public statement from a very successful airline to be something more of a solid source than pure speculation and assumption.
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BrouAviation From Netherlands, joined Jun 2009, 981 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 1210 times:
Quoting RussianJet (Reply 17): Really? Do you suppose that they get to base an aircraft there for free, and also get free handling and airport employees, and get crew for free, etc, etc, etc?
Seriously, it doesn't take a lot of imagination to start figuring out where such sums of money might be needed with such an expansion in flights. In any even, I take a public statement from a very successful airline to be something more of a solid source than pure speculation and assumption.
Seriously, what a load of bull. All the things you mention are operating costs and have absolutely ZILCH to do with investments. You really believe Ryanair is going to COMMIT itself for 70M to an airport they would leave tomorrow if circumstances would happen to be less favourable? You think a nightstop is a 70M investment? You believe assigning an aircraft (which isnt even sure they actually do) may be called investment?
A company invests to get ROI, but most of the time just to get a saying in matters. With pretending they are investing big bucks in EIN, they hope to get influence on EIN. Smart move, but that makes the 70M USD investment nothing more than hot air. They spend their money in EIN as every other airline . That doesnt make them a 70M investor, nor does it grand the rights to act as such.
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