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User currently offlineplanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3527 posts, RR: 5
Posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7292 times:

I'm assuming there will still be some unique cargo flights happening this year as the major freight carriers start to send charter flights and bigger planes to lesser stations to help meet the ever-increasing holiday shipping demand.

Last year here in DSM, we saw 742s and DC-8s on multiple days during the last week before Christmas. Fingers crossed for the same experience in 2012, although I realize this sort of activity is becoming less and less necessary with every passing year.


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User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4058 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7258 times:

BIL has two flights in the evenings instead of the normal one...a 757 and a 727.  

FYI this month will be the last month the 727 comes to BIL as a scheduled flight. They will probably not be back next peak as the retirements are going into overdrive.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7578 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 6942 times:

PHX is always fun during peak cargo season. Last year we had a National 747 come through. Yesterday I snapped a UPS MD11


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User currently offlinenssd70 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6841 times:

DSM is getting UPS MD-11 and a DC-8 ,but not sure on the airline,maybe National Cargo. Kalitta is flying in a 727 on the 21st.

Doug

[Edited 2012-12-11 18:54:05]

User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2798 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6727 times:
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We've been getting a few 727s up here at GFK. We don't exactly get a large variety of transport aircraft up here so it's nice to see. I turned final last week and my CFI was like holy cow it's a 727! Though I have to admit, I love seeing the 757s up here.
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User currently offlinetb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1597 posts, RR: 9
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6709 times:

Quoting nssd70 (Reply 3):
DSM is getting UPS MD-11 and a DC-8 ,but not sure on the airline,maybe National Cargo. Kalitta is flying in a 727 on the 21st.

No, National parked the 8's in May. Maybe ATI, they have a couple left but everyone has parked theirs this year.

I'm looking forward, as always, to flying Peak again this year. I always get excited when we start hearing our possible schedules, don't know what I get to do yet though, just know I'll be flying a lot next week!



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User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 931 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6689 times:

Alot more cargo is coming off commercial flights as well... Bulk Bins to filled the brim with mail. Hooray for the lower back


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User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3178 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6647 times:

Quoting nssd70 (Reply 3):
DSM is getting UPS MD-11 and a DC-8 ,but not sure on the airline,maybe National Cargo.

That is all that is left of the DC-8s I think

Quoting tb727 (Reply 5):
No, National parked the 8's in May.

Are you sure about that? They had one of their 70s on static display at Thunder Over Michigan in August. Their 60 was parked on their ramp. Where were their other DC-8s then?


User currently offlinenssd70 From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6359 times:

I found the info on the DC-8 and it lists it being ATI,but I thought those were all parked.

Doug


User currently offlinetjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2444 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6355 times:

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 7):
Are you sure about that? They had one of their 70s on static display at Thunder Over Michigan in August. Their 60 was parked on their ramp. Where were their other DC-8s then?

Their website now only shows the 757 and 747, as does Airfleets.net:

http://www.nationalairlines.aero/

http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/National%20Air%20Cargo.htm



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User currently offlinetb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1597 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6276 times:

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 7):
Are you sure about that? They had one of their 70s on static display at Thunder Over Michigan in August. Their 60 was parked on their ramp. Where were their other DC-8s then?

Positive. Sadly they are done, all their pilots moved into the 747 fleet over the spring and summer. The -70 series is still on the West ramp with the engines covered and the white -63 was donated to the museum although it has been moved from the East ramp to the South ramp in recent months. National is sending 2 747's to peak, that should be it.



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User currently offlineplanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6271 times:

Quoting tb727 (Reply 10):
Positive. Sadly they are done,

National yes, but what about ATI? Are they still flying the 8s?



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User currently offlinetb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1597 posts, RR: 9
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6242 times:

Quoting planespotting (Reply 11):
National yes, but what about ATI? Are they still flying the 8s?

If there is an 8 on the schedule it is probably ATI and this will most likely be the last chance to see them flying. They only have a couple left.

There is one in the air right now but it is probably the combi doing a DoD flight http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ATN540



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User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1361 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 6226 times:

Couple of years ago (ish) a warehouse in the UK holding umpteen thousand x-boxes (or PS3's, or some other console) burned to the ground a few weeks before x-mas. An An-124 was chartered, flown to China, and loose loaded with another umpteen thousand consoles and shipped off to EMA. Un-loading the kite took two days; that was "fun"!


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User currently offlinetjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2444 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 6004 times:

Quoting tb727 (Reply 12):
If there is an 8 on the schedule it is probably ATI and this will most likely be the last chance to see them flying. They only have a couple left.

There is one in the air right now but it is probably the combi doing a DoD flight http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ATN540

Here's another one out in the Pacific on a DOD charter:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ATN430



Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3178 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5713 times:

Quoting tb727 (Reply 10):
Positive. Sadly they are done, all their pilots moved into the 747 fleet over the spring and summer. The -70 series is still on the West ramp with the engines covered and the white -63 was donated to the museum although it has been moved from the East ramp to the South ramp in recent months. National is sending 2 747's to peak, that should be it.

Hopefully the Yankee Museum keeps that 63 and takes care of it unlike their DC-6 and Argosy, which are rumored to be getting scrapped as well as the B-52, which is also rumored to be taken back by the USAF museum for not being taken care of.

National had a couple other DC-8s, where are they?


User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10432 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5695 times:

In my experience, the title of this thread is a triple oxymoron  


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User currently offlinetb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1597 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5674 times:

Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 15):
National had a couple other DC-8s, where are they?

921R went to the, ROW I think, about 3 or 4 years ago now, the other 70 series went out about a year or so ago after the last UPS Peak season.

I heard the same rumors about the B-52, a real shame, not sure if and when it will happen. As you know, Michigan isn't a great weather environment to store an aircraft outdoors. I hope they build a hangar soon, they can't continue operating like they are. The Zantop hangar has been condemned for a while now so no parking in there anymore. My buddy flies their B-17 and they are trying their best, it's just so expensive.

Quoting mayor (Reply 16):
In my experience, the title of this thread is a triple oxymoron

No! I love it! It is nice because even though they are long, busy nights, it's scheduled and I can plan when to sleep!

[Edited 2012-12-12 18:45:57]


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User currently offlinechrisnh From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4116 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5585 times:

This Thursday morning FedEx will be flying an A310 from San Juan, PR to Manchester, New Hampshire. Flight 9743 is obviously a re-po flight, but interesting nonetheless.

MHT had been getting the MD-11 each Saturday for over a month prior to Thanksgiving, but none of that type since. It's MD-10s, A300s, and A310s for them.

December 18-21, FedEx will run an A310 50 miles from Boston to Manchester, operating as Flight 1473.

Also, Kallita had a 747-200 at Boston today. Some theorize that it was ferrying parts needed to 'un-strand' a crippled Alitalia A330 in Boston that has been stuck there for a few days...perhaps an engine.

[Edited 2012-12-12 19:16:45]

User currently offlinefdxgirl From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 74 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5526 times:

at MKE its an A310 parking lot with three of them daily. oh, and a rare 727 on fridays and also mix in a 757 somewhere in there. also there have been two 767s on the other side of the cargo ramp for the "other" cargo company.

User currently offlinetjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2444 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 5065 times:

LAN (Lansing, MI) got an UPS MD-11 this a.m. Usually they see a 763 and/or A306.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UPS1478

I wish FDX would sub an MD-10 or -11 to GRR iso our usual A310 or A306 during the holiday rush....



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User currently offlineBatonOps From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 748 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 5022 times:

MDT is seeing a Kalitta 747 operating for UPS this week and a few additional UPS 757's.

User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4960 times:

ROC has been getting extra FX 727's and A300's . All coming in the dark,of course. FX300 (727!) came in from MEM yesterday (we normally do not have FX arrivals on Mondays). Departed for LCK,which is not normal. Friday we had an extra A300 in addition to our normal MD-10-10.The A300 departed for SYR. That seams to be all ,No Kalitta L1011 like years ago  

[Edited 2012-12-18 04:17:17]


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User currently offlineplanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3527 posts, RR: 5
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 9 hours ago) and read 4803 times:

ATI's DC-8-70 is filed PHL-DSM this morning - hasn't left yet though. But I remember last year it filed for a similiar time frame and left like an hour and a half late.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ATN2197

Saw a Kalitta 727 this morning as well. DSM is also seeing lots of owned UPS metal today - PHX, BFI, JFK are all sending planes here and don't typically do so. Someone else mentioned that DSM was going to get an MD-11 sometime this week ... any more info on that? Not happening today at least.



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User currently offlineUnited_fan From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 7496 posts, RR: 7
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 8 hours ago) and read 4759 times:

Quoting planespotting (Reply 23):
Someone else mentioned that DSM was going to get an MD-11 sometime this week ... any more info on that? Not happening today at least.

You know you can configure your flightaware alerts to email you when an MD-11 files a flightplan to your airport.



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25 usairways85 : Finally the big guys are making their way to PHL 2 Atlas Air 747s SDF-PHL yesterday, 1 scheduled today 1 Atlas 747 JFK-PHL yesterday 1 Atlas 747 PHX-P
26 planespotting : I've noticed that - is it purely just getting a bigger sort to take pressure of SDF, or is there something more about PHL?
27 MaddogJT8D : Anybody know if anything special is coming to or through ATL this week?
28 DLx737200 : We got a Kalitta 747-400 up at North Cargo right now. Kalitta Charters is also operating some 727s for UPS this week. Nice to see some extra 727s fly
29 PHX787 : We had an evergreen come into PHX last night. Got it on video and it's in the PHX thread.
30 fanofjets : EWR is good for spotting Kalitta 747 classics. Most of those birds are all white - no cheatlines or company markings. However, these birds are on the
31 usairways85 : PHL is one of UPS' regional hubs. While normal service has dwindled to only 15-25 flts a day, every Holiday season UPS seems to really ramp up operat
32 planespotting : In the same vein as RFD? I know it's a regional hub, but PHL seems to get considreably more lift around this time of year. Was just curious as to the
33 ChrisNH : Here in Manchester, NH we've seen some interesting flights from UPS...but none of the flights to or from Ontario, California we'd get in past years. A
34 usairways85 : My two guesses are 1.)PHL is located around a larger population base. I don't know how UPS routes all their packages but I take a guess that UPS can
35 tb727 : Glad you enjoyed seeing us come into ATL!
36 crownvic : Here in Orlando MCO we were blessed with an ATI DC-8 from PHL this morning along with a Kalitta 747 which does a double round SDF run, late night/morn
37 United_fan : ROC got our usual MD-10 from MEM,along with an extra A300. The A300 departed to SYR then MEM. The -10 went back to MEM. This along with our usual Capp
38 nssd70 : Today was supposed to be the busiest day for cargo flights in DSM,but the snowstorm seems to have changed the plans. Doug
39 usairways85 : Airborne Express 763 ORD-PHL-ORD last night Also yesterday some heavy traffic between the UPS hubs 5 ONT-PHL flts (4 UPS, 1 Evergreen) 6 SDF-PHL flts
40 planespotting : I'll say. Nothing has departed or arrived since a little after midnight. Although it looks like a few flights from MSP/DEN/CLT have either taken off
41 tb727 : Yes, I heard the runway braking action was nil so no one was going to be leaving last night.
42 HPRamper : PHL is the big UPS East Coast hub. ONT is the West coast equivalent. RFD and CAE also have regional hub operations. There may be others, I'm not sure
43 KLASM83 : It's very nice on the ramp when they arrive and depart! GFK now has had three planes (usually 2x757 and 1x727) arriving just in the evenings, and to
44 Post contains links United_fan : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...4/history/20121223/1300Z/KPHL/KMHV I wonder if this is its final flight after the Christmas rush? I hope not.
45 tb727 : Quite possibly. I took an airplane into OSC after peak and National's 70 series DC-8 was parked up there engineless, just flew up from YIP. Has/had a
46 blueflyer : DFW has a regional hub for UPS. AFW is home to the competition. Both saw an increase in traffic but the most exciting thing I heard about was a one-t
47 Post contains links United_fan : A retirement flight? http://flightaware.com/live/flight/FDX9055
48 HPRamper : Is that OAK-SFO? If so, when was the last time that route was flown by an aircraft that size?
49 Spacepope : Probably just storage. I show it as being N68050, with just 69412 hours and 31146 cycles as of Nov 9.
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