LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24905 posts, RR: 46 Posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7703 times:
National Airlines has filed with the US DOT for authority to engage in scheduled passenger operations from the US via Dubai to Afghanistan.
National states for the last year it has successfully operated 757 charter flights on near daily basis from Dubai to points in Afghnaistan on behalf of the US government, NGO's and private companies and now seeks to convert this to a scheduled operation.
As part of the expansion, National also seeks approval to enter into a codeshare agreement with either a US or foreign carrier on the route between Washington IAD and Dubai to feed its planned 757 beyond service.
National initially states it will plans to operate a 5 x weekly routing consisting of Dubai - Kabul - Bagram - Kandahar effective March 2013.
Carrier also states it is in the process of acquiring a 2nd passenger 757 to assist with this scheduled flying.
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Quoting LAXintl (Thread starter): As part of the expansion, National also seeks approval to enter into a codeshare agreement with either a US or foreign carrier on the route between Washington IAD and Dubai to feed its planned 757 beyond service.
Quoting tsnamm (Reply 1): but wouldn't they need some sort of 5th freedom rights via DXB?
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24922 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 7009 times:
Quoting blueflyer (Reply 3): Quoting tsnamm (Reply 1):
but wouldn't they need some sort of 5th freedom rights via DXB?
Dubai hands out traffic rights like candy.
They don't need anything from the UAE since it's an Open Skies market with unlimited 5th freedom rights at beyond or intermediate points. They of course also need such rights from the 3rd country involved, in this case Afghanistan.
fridgmus From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 1442 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (1 year 7 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6915 times:
If not DXB, then KWI. I flew from KWI on a Griffon Airways DC-9 twice into Kandahar. KWI is NEVER busy, especially compared to DXB. There is at least one other airline in addition to Griffon that flies out of DXB to points in Afghanistan, but I forgot it's name.
Just an FYI for you.
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wjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5134 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (1 year 7 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 3004 times:
Several carriers were looking to get that combi business from ATI, and modified or planned to modify 757s in order to get it. I think North American was trying to get it as well. Now ATI is collecting the game pieces created by others.
National is basically the successor to Murray Air, which used to move around auto parts in DC8s. The current National is actually doing a good deal of military business, and some very specialized military business.