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New AA Color Scheme Confirmed...painted - Part 4  
User currently offlineWilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 9320 posts, RR: 69
Posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 81378 times:

Part 3 got a little long, so here is part 4 now.


Link to part 3:

New AA Color Scheme Confirmed...painted - Part 3 (by SA7700 Nov 17 2012 in Civil Aviation)


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User currently offlinejonnyclark From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2011, 114 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 81364 times:

...one of the longest threads... and most anticipated liveries of the last decade I think...

... get ready for a HUGE anticlimax.  

Jonny, commercial pilot & founder of Thedesignair
User currently offlineN737AA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 80767 times:

Quoting Delta1011man (Reply 254):
Also, IIRC, for employee bidding DWH is its own base. So AA has DWH separate from DFW.

Yes it is considered a Main Base and has its own bid seperate from DFW ( and TUL, the other Main Base). Most AFW folks are biding there with the closing of AFW.


User currently offlinelostsound From Canada, joined May 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 80240 times:

Maybe the re-brand will be a New Years reveal! That'd be great for marketing.

New Year, New American  

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User currently offlineTSS From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 3125 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 79765 times:

Quoting jonnyclark (Reply 1):
... get ready for a HUGE anticlimax.

Yep, that's pretty much what I'm expecting: A chance to bring a little more beauty into the world squandered with a magnificent symphony of drab.

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User currently offlinePI734 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 77643 times:

Possibly for an announcement for a "possible" merger?

User currently offlineflyfree727 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 724 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 77643 times:

Quoting jonnyclark (Reply 1):
... get ready for a HUGE anticlimax.
Quoting TSS (Reply 6):
Yep, that's pretty much what I'm expecting: A chance to bring a little more beauty into the world squandered with a magnificent symphony of drab.

As I stated in a very early post in THREAD 1, one thing is for sure, half will love it and half will hate it.
Accept that and move on.


User currently offline817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 3231 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 77527 times:

Quoting flyfree727 (Reply 9):
half will love it and half will hate it.
Accept that and move on.


What we do know now, is that the second AA 77W, N718AN, is painted the same way as the first. So that pretty much says a new livery is on the way.

Let go, move on....
User currently offlinecytz_pilot From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 569 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 74887 times:

Quoting lostsound (Reply 5):
Maybe the re-brand will be a New Years reveal! That'd be great for marketing.

Maybe they'll hold off until April 1st, so if everyone hates it, they can say, 'uh, just kidding!' and get back to the drawing board.  

User currently offlinecapri From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 516 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 74791 times:

They are still waiting the outcome of Dec21st before they decide should they go ahead or not? Waiting for AA livery it's more of an apocalypse of its own. I hope they come out with something outstanding

User currently offlinePDX88 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 295 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 74538 times:

Will 7LB receive its final coat of paint in PAE or PDX?

User currently offline777STL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 72527 times:

That picture of 7LA with the 738 in the previous doesn't appear to be taken at KPAE, more like KDFW. You can see the nose of a third AA aircraft on the far right hand side of the picture.

User currently offlinebrilondon From Canada, joined Aug 2005, 4591 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 71626 times:

Quoting jonnyclark (Reply 1):
...one of the longest threads... and most anticipated liveries of the last decade I think...

... get ready for a HUGE anticlimax.  

I am still thinking that AA "new livery" is going to be similar to the present one with a new tail logo.

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User currently offlineWingtips56 From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 71390 times:

Then again, AA could opt to roll the first ones out in "oneworld" livery, to get them into service while other factors may leave the permanent livery uncertain.

Worked for WestAir, Apollo Airways, Desert Pacific, Western, AirCal and American Airlines
User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 29459 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 71434 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 11):
Quoting jonnyclark (Reply 1):
...one of the longest threads... and most anticipated liveries of the last decade I think...

Well this livery dates to the 70s so who is surprised?

It dates to the 1960s.

This 720B (N7528A) was the first AA aircraft in the current livery. Still experimental when this August 1968 photo was taken at LAX, but the only significant change to the final version was the addition of the eagle logo on the tail.


User currently offline777STL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 71041 times:

Quoting Wingtips56 (Reply 17):
Then again, AA could opt to roll the first ones out in "oneworld" livery, to get them into service while other factors may leave the permanent livery uncertain.

AA has never had multiple aircraft of a type in the OW livery at the same time. My guess is this is the new livery. The fact that the first two 77Ws have the same scheme suggests it's not a one off or special livery.

User currently offlineLONGisland89 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 769 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 70852 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 19):
AA has never had multiple aircraft of a type in the OW livery at the same time.
AA has two 77Es in the OW livery.

User currently offlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 4331 posts, RR: 30
Reply 17, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 68475 times:
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Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 20):
AA has two 77Es in the OW livery.

So two is enough.. plus thinking about it why would they talk about introducing a new color scheme and then use that inane one world scheme on the first two a/c? that would give this thread another 3 months of life.

User currently offlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6544 posts, RR: 29
Reply 18, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 68058 times:

I'm a bit surprised so many people are judging before they see it. I like the livery they have now bit of cleanup and brightening won't hurt.

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User currently offlineC133 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 66939 times:
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That 720 as pictured was a revised version of the original, which did not have the white outline around the letters. It was REALLY ugly; outlining made a huge difference against the aluminum.

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User currently offlinejsnww81 From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2428 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 66363 times:

Quoting C133 (Reply 23):
That 720 as pictured was a revised version of the original, which did not have the white outline around the letters. It was REALLY ugly; outlining made a huge difference against the aluminum.

There was an also an experimental version which had the "AA" on the tail (no eagle) and only a red and blue stripe on the fuselage. There's a photo of it in one of George Cearley's books - it looks horrible. All of the original plans in 1968 called for a simple "AA" on the tail, and it was only after employees mounted a "Save the Eagle" campaign that the current stylized version was added between the two letters.

User currently onlinelaxboeingman From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 700 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 65140 times:

Do we have any idea as to when an announcement will be made?

Thank you in advance.

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User currently offlinepilotanthony From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 96 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 64465 times:

cant wait for the release of the new livery if there is one!

Anthony Paraschou
User currently offlineN737AA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 61548 times:

Quoting 777STL (Reply 15):
AA has never had multiple aircraft of a type in the OW livery at the same time. My guess is this is the new livery. The fact that the first two 77Ws have the same scheme suggests it's not a one off or special livery.
Quoting LONGisland89 (Reply 16):
AA has two 77Es in the OW livery.

Yes, 7AY and 7BE


User currently offlineCapEd388 From United States of America, joined Feb 2011, 233 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (3 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 60283 times:

What I would like to know is if we will get to see some MD80s in the new livery. My opinion is yes as I feel that it is going to take 5-8(max?) years to phase them all out. I think they might paint a few MD80s in the new livery, those MD80s that they plan to retire last.

What do you guys think?

388 346 77W 787
25 garpd : My guess is no. If the MD-80s are to be phased out, they're not going to pull them out of service for painting. They'll probably continue in the curr
26 CF-CPI : I didn't know about this detail, but I'd swear I also saw a 720B wear a different test scheme: painted white with only blue and red stripes (no white
27 C133 : Thanks, jsnww81, I had forgotten about the "2 stripe" version, but found it easily in the Cearley book. When we taxied onto the ramp at SAN one night
28 PHX787 : Someone told me yesterday that the second 77W was to be ferried to AFW for painting soon? Rumor, but what's the possibility behind it?
29 Stitch : It already has the same base paint scheme that the first one has, so I would expect both just need the final touches (logos, titles and any cheatline
30 JoePatroni707 : Second ship 7LB is due for delivery tomorrow to Dallas. AFIK still grey and white like 7LA. AFW is closed now, so I doubt it will be painted there
31 JoeCanuck : I find the AA scheme refreshingly stable. There aren't too many new logos and paint schemes which were an improvement over the previous ones. With it'
32 PHX787 : I meant as in a livery but since AFW is closed I guess not.
33 american 767 : My guess is yes. Out of 200 (more or less) MD-80s left, I'm sure that at least one will wear the new livery. Sure it will take years to repaint the w
34 PRAirbus : Anyone heard any rumors of when the new livery will be launched???? Any guesses????? I'd say after New Year's.
35 delimit : Hopefully less.so than the "new" UA logo.
36 lostsound : My guess is January 1st. That's probably to obvious of a date for that to be true but it's the only guess I have haha. A New Years reveal would be gr
37 PDX88 : 7LB is currently enroute from PAE-DFW (AA 9704). I wonder if they will paint and unveil both 77Ws at the same time.
38 brilondon : Have they made it known when the official unveiling of the aircraft is going to be done?
39 ZKOKQ : I just wish they would hurry up!
40 Post contains links and images jetMarc : Noticed AA also has a new safety card design similar to the new kiosks as seen in dc9northwest's recent trip report... wonder if this is another hint.
41 brilondon : The graphics look the the same with the name, I am not convinced that there is going to be any ground breaking here maybe just a modification to take
42 jalapeno : AA 9704 Just landed. Any one have pics yet?
43 DocLightning : DUDE. It's AA. And they're CHANGING their LIVERY! It's a big deal! The livery was introduced on the 707. It's the oldest livery on any airline AFAIK
44 Post contains links CapEd388 : I was looking at the presentation that Horton gave to the APA last Thursday. Theres one slide on their brand (slide 26) and I found two things that ar
45 Viscount724 : Far more than one. The A.net database includes photos of at least 16 AF 707s in that livery, including both passenger aircraft and freighters.
46 rj777 : "A symbol of change, not just a CHANGE OF SYMBOL." I don't know. To me that suggests a whole new corporate logo.
47 BOACCunard : If this is consistent with AA's new branding, then it's disappointing. I really dislike the reflection on the text.
48 Post contains links dtw757 : A quick search of the internet for american airlines rebranding brings up this. I don't know what it is or who did it but someone put a lot of work in
49 ZSOFN : The branding looks excellent - I love it. Like you say, the livery definitely needs some work though (plus it's a very poor "rendering").
50 Post contains links HermansCVR580 : I like the Art Deco retro look to it, but actual planes look terrible. I'm sorry but you need more than just white and grey. I say if your going to go
51 CX Flyboy : Is that scheme for real? Looks like a rip-off of the preious JAL scheme.
52 Darksnowynight : They haven't closed AFW yet. In any case, the DFW area paint shop is actually over at FTW, IIRC. I haven't heard of any paint facilities at AFW. I th
53 Post contains images lostsound : No, it's just a branding project by a random designer. It has nothing to do with the actual re-branding of AA.
54 Post contains images Stitch : Not unless AA has an unannounced order for the A340 and A380...
55 Braybuddy : I like it! Looks VERY smart, pity it's only a project.
56 WALmsp : I liked the concept until I saw it in greyscale on a plane, at which point I became greatly relieved that this is not the official design.
57 EaglePower83 : WOW, I'm actually impressed. This is my favorite "fun" rendering out there. Only critisim I have is, yes again, the livery could be a bit more. And I
58 A388 : I also don't see how this rendering is soo excellent as it is a 1-on-1 JAL copy. Nothing inspiring about it unfortunately. A388
59 PHX787 : Maaaaaybe it was that, they said they were going to fly it to FTW very soon. Or something.
60 AeroWesty : I'm trying to sort out in my mind how this design equates to reports that AA is going for a "retro" look for their new livery. Doesn't seem consisten
61 spacecadet : "Retro" probably doesn't mean what you think it means. Their current livery is retro by almost any modern standard - window belt cheat lines went out
62 aacun : Rumors are sooooo strong out there about the new uniforms as well
63 YXwatcherMKE : I really hope that this is not anywhere near the new livery. The logo is ok, but Why in the world do you go with a basic white A/C? It will get lost
64 davidho1985 : really match the semi-painted 77W we see
65 UK_Dispatcher : I also like the branding, but the livery is awful. If they could incorporate the overall branding and colours into the livery, it would help a lot.
66 qqflyboy : And the latest rumor on new uniforms is charcoal gray. That would be a welcome departure too, IMHO.
67 Post contains links catdaddy63 : It looks like AA's third 77W is headed to PDX for paint over the holidays: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE303 Could she come out in the full, c
68 spacecadet : Because this was made by some guy trying to put together a design portfolio who obviously doesn't know anything about airline liveries. People are fo
69 aacun : Yeap, thats What Ive heard as well.
70 JFKman : I really hope the paint job is nice..... but I am sad to see the old one go. :/
71 dtw757 : How do we know this was AA's plane? What paint did it have leaving PAE? Are there pics?
72 american 767 : I hope so too. I think it's gonna be nice. It looks like it will consist of a grey background with a white tail where the white will be extending dow
73 jalapeno : Ok - friend of the family was in town last night, she's an FA being trained on the new 777 DFW - GRU route. When asked about the new livery, she QUICK
74 blink182 : That would mean though that this merger, presumably with US, would be official and receive US gov't approval in the next month just before the 77W en
75 flyfree727 : As a FA who as also been trained on the 777-300 ( not that it matters), this is like the telephone game. There has been NO internal communications ab
76 Post contains images AA94 : Agreed. No offense to any airline employees out there, but often employees are unreliable sources because they just pass along what they hear from ot
77 cruiseshipcrew : This safety card design has been out for at least 8 months now on the 737s. I wouldn't think too much into it as the new branding.
78 FWAERJ : In fact, in March 1997, I flew on a Saul Bass rainbow 757 ORD-SNA. It was pretty weird, though, as virtually every other UA plane at ORD T1 was battl
79 Viscount724 : It had an AA flight number. It was painted gray. There's a photo of it landing at DFW in one of the previous parts of this thread.
80 dtw757 : That's not the airplane I am talking about. It was mentioned earlier that AA's 3rd 77W supposedly left KPAE for KPDX for painting and I asked how we
81 KarelXWB : He is talking about the one that flew to PDX (N719AN) for painting. I think Boeing will just apply the grey/white layer like N717AN and N718AN at PDX
82 KarelXWB : Because some 777 aircraft are painted at PDX. The grey base-livery requires a paint job and it can be done at PAE or PDX.
83 Stitch : If the 777 paint shop at KPAE is full, Boeing flies planes to KPDX to paint them there.
84 Post contains links dtw757 : That's what I am saying? How do we know it was N719AN? Nevermind, I answered my own question with this photo. http://www.flickr.com/photos/sabian404/
85 garpd : Looked quite good until I saw the livery mock up on an A380. What a poorly executed design!
86 Post contains images A388 : These AA 77W's must be the most closely followed aircraft before it enters service. I can imagine why though... A388
87 PDX88 : Got a decent look at N719AN this evening. Still naked, sitting outside of the Boeing paint hangar at this time.
88 CapEd388 : Does anyone know if AMR will also receive a brand upgrade? Maybe new branding that will resemble American's new branding? I have never liked AMR's log
89 Polot : I'm sure it will receive a small update if the logo changes but other than that I wouldn't expect much. It looks pretty generic because it is primari
90 Drmlnr1 : AA will be more than competitive when they emerge from ch 11. AA's rebranding comes at a very good opportunity to show the flying public that they are
91 superjeff : Not to mention that it is parked at AFW by the fence. Gray fuselage with the white tail painted down across the fuselage a la QANTAS.
92 DocLightning : Again, this does not square with reality. Two 77W's have been painted in the new livery's base (or is it three now?) Those 77W's are scheduled for EI
93 FlyboyOz : Oh man.... we can't wait to see that new livery!!! Hopefully it will come out by early next year!!
94 EK413 : I'm really sick of these AA color scheme painted... We want to see the NEW color scheme now! EK413
95 blink182 : True, but this is a new aircraft AA has been hyping up like crazy, the highest capacity aircraft in the fleet, the company is emerging from bankruptcy
96 type-rated : And we still haven't seen any photos of the new livery. Has it really been painted as the title to this thread implies?
97 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Well this says quite alot for an AA aircraft if you ask me: http://paineairport.com/kpae5737.htm http://paineairport.com/kpae5738.htm
98 AA767400 : Rumor I head was that the delay of these frames was not due to seat issues, but of different shades of color patterns in the cabin. The manufacturer's
99 TSS : Is there a watermark on that photo, or can one see a slight color variance suggesting a "swoosh" design in the white paint between the rearmost exit
100 Polot : I think you are seeing the reflection of the runway, with the "swoosh" being from the thick white horizontal line below the tail of the plane.
101 PictionaryMan : I just watched a video produced by AA and at the end, they had a 738 tail under wrap, my guess there is already an aircraft painted hiding someplace.
102 dtw757 : All smoke and mirrors. The aircraft in that video appeared to be a 737. AA or any other airline can not afford to have a perfectly good airplane just
103 ZSOFN : Looks like a reflection of the runway markings to me.
104 TSS : On third and fourth glances, it probably is. Still, that would be an interesting way to tie a new livery in with the cheatlines of the existing one.
105 rj777 : So they're going to introduce this new livery days if not weeks before the first flight? What are they waiting for?[Edited 2012-12-30 10:46:12 by SA77
106 Post contains links miaami : Ran across this ad for Citibank AAdvantage. Seems like it could be a clue to the new color scheme. http://creditcards.citicards.com/usc...D=3E72671480
107 Post contains images tonytifao : I hope not
108 iFlyLOTs : Okay I know we kind of covered this before, but chrome paint, could it work in small doses? like say they do the AA on the tail in a chrome paint, wou
109 SPREE34 : I'd think they would have put the chrome paint on already. It wouldn't look much different than it does now.
110 RedTailDTW : Actually those cards have had that same color scheme for at least a few years, nothing new...I have the AAdvantage World Mastercard myself. - Mason
111 Post contains links pdxswa : N719AN taxiing on Echo taxiway. http://www.airliners.net/photo/Untit...d=b24ce9d1efedcd412fe55b73055b0078[Edited 2012-12-29 20:53:11]
112 rj777 : How many of these planes total did AA order again? If it's a number in the single digits, they might have all of them before any of them are painted!
113 Stitch : They have 13 on order at the moment.
114 Post contains images BasilFawlty : Just for my information, after four topics and about 700 posts or so, all we have is a grey 77W and some 'naked' bare metal 77W's?
115 JoeCanuck : But the speculating has been interesting and remarkably civil. Some good ideas have come from the discussions.
116 Viscount724 : Actually 894 posts (including this one). Must set a record for the most posts in an A.net thread with zero concrete information on the subject being
117 Post contains images Stitch : Actually we have two grey-white 777s and one bare-metal (soon to be grey-white based on the tail). Seriously, we know a new color scheme is coming, s
118 ouboy79 : It is some what amusing that this thread has gone through 4 lives now with nothing more to go on than a new base coat of paint instead of a polished
119 Post contains images EK413 : Would it be safe to say AA new color scheme is the best kept secret of 2012...? Happy New Year everyone! All the best for 2013! I'll return to this di
120 Stitch : "New AA Color Scheme Confirmed...painted...no, really. Honest! There are pictures in the database! I promise!"
121 PHX787 : At this point, with all the secrecy behind it, what's the point of speculating...or even continuing this thread? All we can do is wait for AA to drop
122 rj777 : Well, looks like whoever had the theory that an announcement or unveiling on New Year's eve was wrong.
123 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Who said that?? If anything, it would be better to have an unveiling on New years day IMO... On another note I noticed while browsing a flightsim web
124 PHX787 : Can u just post them here? I can't access that site
125 aacun : I guess AA got what they wanted I had never (not even throughout the chapt 11 filing) seen the degree of passion most people are showing about AA. I g
126 DocLightning : Slightly off-topic, but why is the forward section on these unpainted aircraft often a different color than the rest of the fuselage?
128 TSS : So close to the livery I suggested in a previous thread!
129 UA787DEN : Who did the one with the stylized eagle enlarged on the tail like the DL widget? There were a bunch of similar designs from that person. Loved them al
130 Viscount724 : The different fuselage sections often have different origins and sometimes completely different manufacturers and the protective coatings don't alway
131 ckfred : Assuming that AA is going to replace the current paint scheme with a new one, it won't be just the aircraft. There will be changes to ticket counters,
132 JBo : You assume that the new paint scheme is going to involve a completely new logo and logotype. If the new AA brand is going to retain the Helvetica AA
133 PDX88 : The idea so far has been that this new scheme will represent the new American as is exits bankruptcy. I'm pretty sure rebranding the company outside
134 B377 : Hang on all you impatient folks regarding the new AA livery. While it could happen earlier if someone violates the secrecy that AA has placed on this
135 Speedbird128 : I guess you do, especially when you want people to forget that monument. Not everything deserves to be, nor should be, remembered forever - especiall
136 liftsifter : What was the point of all of this, the planes are going to have to be washed completely before the final paint is added, seems like a total waste of t
137 lostsound : Check your calenders folks! First flight is at the end of this month which means we can probably expect to conclude this conundrum fairly soon.
138 FlyboyOz : Ahh finally over.... i cannot wait to see it at the end of this month!!
139 liftsifter : Wouldn't put it behind AA to slap an AA sticker on the tail and use it until they are fully ready for the unveil.
140 Wingtips56 : A 773 with a BOE331 flight number just arrived PAE from PDX about 1:30 hrs ago, so spotters, be at the ready to see if it is N719AN and what paint it
141 PDX88 : Belongs to Aeroflot. VP-BGB.[Edited 2013-01-02 22:26:15]
142 ckfred : I seem to remember that it wasn't that long after the "wavy gravy" livery was introduced that DL started changing the signage for gates at ATL and at
143 JoePatroni707 : At this point I would not be at all suprised to see that happen. We are down to about three week to EIS, and not even a plan to fly them out of DFW t
144 A388 : So this 737 will also be getting the (or a) new AA livery? Can it be that they will be painting both the 77W and this 737 in their new livery for a j
145 JoePatroni707 : My personal guess is, just a guess... it was delivered in standard AA colours but could be sporting the new interior??? Or it could have just been de
146 A388 : Indeed it does and it also doesn't make much sense to showcase the aircraft with their new interior but without the new livery. A388
147 rotating14 : I spoke with a member of the creditors for AA the other week and the merger WILL happen. Timeframe is around the beginning of the 2nd quarter. The maj
148 DocLightning : One of the Creditors (an individual, not an organization, no less) divulged secret information to you and you are posting it on a website?
149 JoePatroni707 : I have a hard time believing that. First off all I can guarentee you 100% everyone in that confrence room is on a NDA. Second of all if he did disclo
150 Post contains images Heavierthanair : G´day For good measure they will also have to throw in an A 321 in the new colors. Is that what they are waiting for before making the announcement?
151 steeler83 : Same here. I don't know if someone else posted this yet, but I know that when US Air was rebranded as US Airways, their DC9, 732, MD80, 727, Fokker f
152 FWAERJ : Some F100s were repainted in the navy blue livery, and the MetroJet 732s flew in an inverse version of the navy blue livery (with red on top). A few
153 CapEd388 : Lets look at American's own history. They repainted the BAE 146s and B737-200s that they acquired from AirCal only to have them leave the fleet a few
154 JAAlbert : It's only considered illegal insider trading if he takes the "secret" information and tries to profit from it by buying stock now and selling it for
155 qqflyboy : My understanding is 738s with the new interior (including AVOD) won't be delivered until around December 2013.
156 american 767 : The Shuttle 727s, maybe not all of them, were repainted in the full dark blue US Airways livery. I'm sure that at least one MD-80 will see the new li
157 CapEd388 : True. What I meant, is that AA still went through the trouble of taking off the Reno Air livery and adding the red, white and blue cheatline with the
158 JoePatroni707 : I am beginning to think we will not see the new livery when the airplane EIS. Neither 77W has flown since delivery. Neither aircraft is on the extra f
159 scbriml : That depends. If the titles and tail logo were stickers rather than paint, I guess it wouldn't take very long at all. Even if they were painted, it's
160 tonytifao : does anyone know if AA will use the 773 domestically for crew training prior to official inaugural service?
161 UA787DEN : I think not. AA might run a few non-rev flights, but their first scheduled pax 77W flight is DFW-GRU on the 31st. AA already has 772s, so they don't
162 AA94 : There is nothing scheduled, AFAIK. As UA787DEN mentioned above, the 773 is not scheduled to fly any domestic routes prior to EIS on DFW-GRU on 31JAN.
163 Post contains images JoePatroni707 : Apparently there is no crew training required, only 4 pages of differences training. At this pont anythign is possible. I was thinking the same thing
164 qqflyboy : I did not know this. Interesting. All I knew about tomorrow (technology-wise) is that every employee who doesn't currently have a company email accou
165 babybus : Where exactly on this thread is the new livery? Probably redundancy notices.
166 Post contains images BasilFawlty : Nowhere
167 Post contains images Robt760 : It's a deceiving thread title, but has gone on and on for 4 separate/on-going threads. Definitely a "scheme" in the non-British sense. There needs to
168 817Dreamliiner : How is it deceiving? the aircrafts are painted... When was the last time you've seen an AA aircraft painted?... Therefore it confirms that there will
169 ckfred : Flight Aware was showing a 10am PT departure. It's now about 11:30 am PT, and the plane is still in PDX.
170 sabian404 : N719AN is painted the same as the other two. Getting ready to leave PDX right now.
171 ouboy79 : I think it is just the way the word "painted" is being taken. It can be mean two things in this case... 1) The new scheme is completed and on the air
172 817Dreamliiner : Just as I thought... Matt Cawby tweeted a pic of it landing at PAE a while ago...
173 rj777 : So we've got 3 birds that look exactly the same......blank and gray.... and supposedly in the "AA CEO to decide on merger soon" thread, the merger dec
174 AA767400 : Oh yeah? And who exactly will be given this notice, Tom Horton?
175 iFlyLOTs : I think that was just a rumor, it was done before with DL that the new branding came out before the NW merger, so I think we will still see it by Jan
176 PRAirbus : AA grapevine indicates new branding and 773ER will be revealed some time next week...about time!!!!!!! :O
177 Post contains images Stitch : A merger will take months to work it's way through the approval's process - and that assumes everyone approves at the onset and nobody raises issues.
178 kanban : Well another 777 just left the Portland paint hanger and guess what.. same grey and white as the first two...
179 qqflyboy : That's what people who are in Dallas for Evac drills are saying. The company hopes to have certification for the plane very soon (as within a week),
180 Post contains images kjfk527 : I don't like that - to much of a resembelance to Aeroflot
181 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Picture by Matt Camby http://paineairport.com/kpae5815.htm
182 kanban : several keep harping about a dark fin... consider that if it were a dark color, the whole plane would be the same grey since a dark color covers bett
183 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : True, but if you look again it also has a slight resemblance to QR's livery as well: View Large View MediumPhoto © Seung Hwan Kim
184 TSS : Well-reasoned and conclusively stated, so "Sayonara" to visions of a navy blue fin in the forthcoming livery. On the minus side, that effectively rul
185 rj777 : So we might actually get our look at it BEFORE thread part 10!
186 Post contains images Fiedman : I like it really like it
187 Post contains links usair330 : I didn't like it at first. But after watching this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-KD0PdI1Ek I understand the concept and it's great! Way to go
188 LipeGIG : As we are covering this thru threads open on January 17, it does not make sense to continue discussions here. We're locking this thread.
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