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US' A330's Coming In 2013  
User currently offlinemattya9 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 132 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 13145 times:

With US resuming deliveries of the A330 next year will there be new routes that come with them? I know South America is supposed to start soon, and they're not getting rid of their 767's until 2016 (maybe 2017... not quite sure there). So where will the new frames be going? Also, does anyone know exactly how many 330's will they be receiving? Thanks!

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User currently offlineusairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3473 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (2 years 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 13094 times:

I believe there are 5 coming in 2013.

Well I believe they are just about maxed out on their current (S12) Int'l aircraft utilization, maybe some slack with the 752s. CLT-GRU starts in the Spring with a 762 and for the Summer season PHL-VCE goes to a A332. Presumably the 762 that was used on VCE goes to CLT-GRU and a new A332 will cover VCE. I doubt they add additional TA routes so the remaining 332s will likely fill in for 762s.


User currently offlinemattya9 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 13033 times:

Where do the 762's go (other than South America) if replaced by the 330's?


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User currently offlineusairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3473 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (2 years 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12967 times:

Quoting mattya9 (Reply 2):
Where do the 762's go (other than South America) if replaced by the 330's?

At least during the winter the 762s are used on PHL/CLT-MCO, SJU, and I believe a few other warm weather destinations like CUN. Can they pull this off in the summer I don't know. Also they can upgrade current/borderline 752 routes. For instance I think PHL-DUB is a 762 in the summer, somtimes it's a 752.


User currently offlineLH506 From Ecuador, joined May 2007, 466 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12384 times:

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 3):
At least during the winter the 762s are used on PHL/CLT-MCO, SJU, and I believe a few other warm weather destinations like CUN. Can they pull this off in the summer I don't know. Also they can upgrade current/borderline 752 routes. For instance I think PHL-DUB is a 762 in the summer, somtimes it's a 752.

Does somebody have an overview on their current 757/767/330 routes?
How many international 757s do they have?
How many 757s will US have left in 2013?



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User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (2 years 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11989 times:

CLT-CDG goes back to a A332. Last year it was operated on a 762

User currently offlinevlad1971 From Netherlands, joined Jul 2005, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11955 times:

For S13 only 3 European stations will be flown by 757 ( GLA , AMS , LIS ) the rest of Transatlantic routes either A330 or B767 . From W13 Schedule all 757's will be converted to Domestic configuration : with 2 more rows in First class and 2 more rows in Coach class added . I guess this will end 757 use on Transatlantic routes for US AIRWAYS .

User currently offlineCRJ900 From Norway, joined Jun 2004, 2234 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (2 years 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11917 times:
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Quoting vlad1971 (Reply 6):
From W13 Schedule all 757's will be converted to Domestic configuration : with 2 more rows in First class and 2 more rows in Coach class added . I guess this will end 757 use on Transatlantic routes for US AIRWAYS .

That's interesting. Is it because US is enjoying high load factors and need larger aircraft or has the novelty of flying the B752 on TATL worn off?

If the B752s are returning to domestic service whilst more and more A321s are being delivered, US will have a lot of capacity. Is it sorely needed?



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User currently offlineusairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3473 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (2 years 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11622 times:

Quoting vlad1971 (Reply 6):
For S13 only 3 European stations will be flown by 757 ( GLA , AMS , LIS )

SNN is also on the 757


User currently offlinefloridaflyboy From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 2018 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11580 times:

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 3):

At least during the winter the 762s are used on PHL/CLT-MCO, SJU,

I flew CLT-STT on a 762 last spring. Was great to have a widebody.



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User currently offlineJHCRJ700 From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 377 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 11015 times:

Quoting mattya9 (Thread starter):
they're not getting rid of their 767's until 2016 (maybe 2017

Do they have AVOD on them? It seems like they would (or are) far behind their competition if they don't have AVOD on them.



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User currently offlineusairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3473 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (2 years 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10872 times:

Quoting JHCRJ700 (Reply 10):
Do they have AVOD on them? It seems like they would (or are) far behind their competition if they don't have AVOD on them.

They may have AVOD in Envoy but they just have overhead monitors in coach. Which is why I am thinking they might continue to pull them off int'l routes and put them on domestic, caribbean, and mexico routes.


User currently offlineeinsteinboricua From Puerto Rico, joined Apr 2010, 3369 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (2 years 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 9843 times:

Does the A330 have enough power to get to Asia? Perhaps NRT/PEK? How about stopping in PHX before continuing to those airports?

Seems the only international expansion left for US is (besides Brazil) Asia.



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User currently offlineby738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (2 years 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 9780 times:

What will become of the likes of the summer only 757 to GLA ? puts paid to it going year round Id guess

User currently offlineusairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3473 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (2 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 9269 times:

Quoting einsteinboricua (Reply 12):
Does the A330 have enough power to get to Asia? Perhaps NRT/PEK? How about stopping in PHX before continuing to those airports?

Seems the only international expansion left for US is (besides Brazil) Asia.

I think the 332 has the legs for PHX-NRT and maybe a few other eastern asian markets. However, it is believed that PHX could only be a marginal gateway to Asia. You also have slot issues at some of the Asian airports.

I think in a few years PHX-Europe is your best bet. Also US should look at it's current European destinations and see if multiple frequencies are possible. I mean the only multiple frequency desintation out of 18(?) from one hub is FRA. Frequency provides more options for paxs. I like what they have done in CLT to supplement PHL service.


User currently offlineSJUSXM From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 294 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8960 times:

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User currently offlineflybhx764 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2004, 272 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (2 years 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 7673 times:

BHX is coming back again on the 757?

User currently offlinewn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1076 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (2 years 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 4950 times:

Quoting flybhx764 (Reply 16):

BHX is coming back again on the 757?

No, they're resuming SNN but not BHX.

Quoting LH506 (Reply 4):
Does somebody have an overview on their current 757/767/330 routes?

Taken from the second week of June, this is their (preliminary?) long-haul deployment.

From PHL:

AMS - B752
ATH - B762
BCN - A333
BRU - B762
CDG - A332
DUB - B762
FCO - A333
FRA - A332, A333
GLA - B752
LHR - A333
LIS - B752
MAD - A332
MAN - A332
MUC - A333
SNN - B752
TLV - A332 (2)
VCE - A332
ZRH - B762

B752 - 4
B762 - 4
A332 - 7
A333 - 5

From CLT:

CDG - A332
DUB - B752
FCO - A333
FRA - A333, A332
GIG - B762 (2)
GRU - B762
LGW - A333 (LHR supposedly starts at the end of March but still isn't loaded)
MAD - B762

B752 - 1
B762 - 4
A332 - 2
A333 - 3

Other than that, I think there's only a handful of other domestic/short haul international flying with the 767/330 fleet. Mostly hub runs and I think a couple of MCO flights. The 757s are much more common throughout that network.

And for anyone wondering about the above totals, US is taking delivery of two A330-200s in May that will bring that fleet up to nine aircraft (one will come in August and the other two in 4Q I believe). Not sure where the 9th -300 is going to go, which is why I don't think this is finalized. Unless they really do plan on having a spare aircraft, which is a little out of character for them in the summer.

Quoting LH506 (Reply 4):
How many international 757s do they have?

US has 15 configured with Envoy. The other 9 are in a domestic configuration and primarily used for Hawaii.



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User currently offline93Sierra From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4120 times:

When/if they get the east/west debocale figured out, what are the chances of bringing the 767s to Phx to replace/ supplement the 757s used for Hawaii?

User currently offlinemattya9 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3022 times:

So it appears the 757 will be almost completely off TATL service as they're letting the 767's and 330's carry the loads (rightfully so). Does US have anymore 330's coming in 2014 and beyond? Or are the 5 coming next year it until the 350's start arriving?


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User currently offlinewn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1076 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (2 years 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2896 times:

Quoting mattya9 (Reply 19):
Does US have anymore 330's coming in 2014 and beyond? Or are the 5 coming next year it until the 350's start arriving?

They have three more on order after the five next year.



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User currently offlinemattya9 From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 132 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2774 times:

Quoting wn676 (Reply 20):

Delivery dates set or is that TBD?



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User currently offlinewn676 From Djibouti, joined Jun 2005, 1076 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (2 years 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2703 times:

Quoting mattya9 (Reply 21):
Delivery dates set or is that TBD?

TBD, probably sometime in 2014. I think the delivery dates for next year were only just set about a month ago.



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User currently offlineFlighty From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 8764 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (2 years 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2664 times:

Quoting mattya9 (Reply 19):

So it appears the 757 will be almost completely off TATL service as they're letting the 767's and 330's carry the loads (rightfully so). Does US have anymore 330's coming in 2014 and beyond? Or are the 5 coming next year it until the 350's start arriving?

Obviously "a merger" would introduce its own planning....

But given that US will have enough A332 and B757 staying indefinitely AFAIK, the 762s will be retired at some point. US loves that airplane. You can see they are reluctant to part with them.


User currently offlineb757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1420 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

The rumor was that the 757s would be retired first and the 767s would fill in domestic spots were the 757s are currently.


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25 mattya9 : I thought it was going to be the other way around? With new 321's replacing the 767 domestic routes and 330's and 350's replacing the international o
26 usairways85 : There aren't many 762 domestic routes. Maybe 1-2 a day on PHL-CLT, which may even be to rotate them through the system on CLT-Europe and then occasio
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