factsonly From Montserrat, joined Aug 2012, 325 posts, RR: 0 Posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 15453 times:
On December 14th, 2012 Delta commenced daily scheduled transatlantic operations with B777-200 aircraft on DTW-AMS-DTW on one of DL's three daily flights, substituting A330 aircraft on the route:
DL predominantly uses B777 on Asian routes, with the exception of ATL-DXB & ATL-JNB. The B777 is sporadically seen at European airports for en-route diversions or special charters. This seasonal equipment change will operate until 28 February 2013 when the A330 returns.
These winter months AMS sees the following weekly DL flights operated by A332, A333, B767, B777:
clemsonaj From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 258 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 15100 times:
An interesting down-gauge in capacity. Perhaps the A333 is being used to South America instead? Is there more cargo carried on this route during the winter months or is this just a capacity adjustment to allow more seats to go South?
mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9205 posts, RR: 14 Reply 2, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14902 times:
I would think that "launching" would mean that this is the first DL European service with the 777. If so, it's not quite true. For a time, DL used the 777 for SNN/DUB service.
"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
PHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 4989 posts, RR: 14 Reply 4, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 13615 times:
Quoting factsonly (Thread starter): DL's largest non-US hub remains NRT with up to 25 departures per day using all long-haul types B747, B777, B767, B757, A333, A332.
Off topic but is DL not using the A320 family on intra-asia routes anymore?
Quoting toobz (Reply 3): DL has flown plenty of 777 into Europe in the past
I recall the grand old days when DL44 CVG-CDG was operated by a 772ER
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5344 posts, RR: 11 Reply 7, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 13156 times:
Last time I flew SkyTeam to AMS, it was on a NW 744!
What happened to THOSE days!?!?!
Granted, it was a wretched plane, but I do like my 747's.
mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9205 posts, RR: 14 Reply 8, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 12927 times:
Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 7): Last time I flew SkyTeam to AMS, it was on a NW 744!
What happened to THOSE days!?!?!
Granted, it was a wretched plane, but I do like my 747's.
Well, you DO realize that DL & NW merged, right? It was in all the papers......
"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
B747forever From United States of America, joined May 2007, 16575 posts, RR: 11 Reply 9, posted (5 months 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 12115 times:
Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 7): Last time I flew SkyTeam to AMS, it was on a NW 744!
What happened to THOSE days!?!?!
Granted, it was a wretched plane, but I do like my 747's.
NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3084 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (5 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9734 times:
DL used to have 5 daily flights to AMS at one time from DTW. I do wish they would bring KL back on one of the DTW-AMS runs
burnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7411 posts, RR: 9 Reply 13, posted (5 months 1 week 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 9419 times:
Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 12):
DL used to have 5 daily flights to AMS at one time from DTW. I do wish they would bring KL back on one of the DTW-AMS runs
Off the top of my head I don't recall DL doing that, I know for a fact that at one time NW did, IIRC it was 4x 333 and 1x 744
"Some People Just Know How To Fly"- Best slogan ever, RIP NW 1926-2009
Jano From Slovakia, joined Jan 2004, 814 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8790 times:
Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 13): Off the top of my head I don't recall DL doing that, I know for a fact that at one time NW did, IIRC it was 4x 333 and 1x 744
Probably 2007. And I think it was 4x A333 and 1x B752.
panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4590 posts, RR: 26 Reply 15, posted (5 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8710 times:
BTW, they just loaded an updated Summer 2013 schedule over the weekend, and the 777 returns to DTW-AMS in June 2013 - operating the last flight of the day in each direction.
panamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4590 posts, RR: 26 Reply 17, posted (5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8397 times:
NASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3084 posts, RR: 5 Reply 19, posted (5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8208 times:
Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 13): Off the top of my head I don't recall DL doing that, I know for a fact that at one time NW did, IIRC it was 4x 333 and 1x 744
Quoting Jano (Reply 14): Probably 2007. And I think it was 4x A333 and 1x B752.
I don't recall a 752 being used DTW-AMS. I know it was used on a few other DTW routes to Europe and places like BDL-AMS
Burnsie would be right about Northwest sending 4X A333 and 1X 744 (was also 5X A333) to AMS. I also thought that Delta was doing 5X daily DTW-AMS shortly after the merger
I don't think KLM has been back to DTW since the merger
steex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1435 posts, RR: 9 Reply 20, posted (5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8088 times:
Quoting NASCARAirforce (Reply 19): I don't recall a 752 being used DTW-AMS. I know it was used on a few other DTW routes to Europe and places like BDL-AMS
One DTW-AMS flight was operated on those reconfigured 752s while routes like BDL-AMS were operating in order to rotate the 752s back to DTW rather than using an internationally configured plane on a DTW-BDL sector.
ocracoke From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 652 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 8006 times:
Quoting mayor (Reply 21): I don't believe that DL (pre-merger) ever flew DTW-AMS.
I want to say the only thing DL flew trans-Atlantic out of DTW was the short-lived A310 on DTW-LGW-FRA, before DL finally gave up on that route and sold it to NW.
mayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 9205 posts, RR: 14 Reply 23, posted (5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7935 times:
Quoting ocracoke (Reply 22): I want to say the only thing DL flew trans-Atlantic out of DTW was the short-lived A310 on DTW-LGW-FRA, before DL finally gave up on that route and sold it to NW.
Wasn't CLE in the mix, somehow, on that route?
"A committee is a group of the unprepared, appointed by the unwilling, to do the unnecessary"----Fred Allen
27 B747forever: From where does the 772ER come from?
28 panamair: There is some slack in the 777 fleet from the suspension of DTW-HKG. Also, this is an upgauge since the 777 replaces a 763ER originally scheduled for
29 Jano: please see http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/archive/t-688530.html
30 NWADTWE16: KLM was always a beautiful site here in the D..i too wish this would come back..at one time we'd have all the NWA/DL widebodies side by side with a B
31 factsonly: Indeed, last weekend DL made several changes to its Transatlantic Summer 2013 schedule: (1) The B777 returns to AMS from 1 July to 3 September 2013 o
32 B747forever: According to your list DL will have 19 daily departures out of AMS. That is really impressive. How does that compare to the pre-DL days when NW opera
33 MaverickM11: I can't even imagine what is on that now that there's so much European capacity at SEA *plus* EK
34 boeing727: DL 48/49 was operated at one time or another by L-1011/B767/MD-11 and B777...good ole times. Boeing727
35 factsonly: Northwest already operated a significant number of departures at AMS, particularly in its short lived B757 period: - BDL 1x/daily = B757 - BOM 1x/dai
36 B747forever: Thank you for the list! It is good to see that DL has grown the AMS hub.
37 MaddogJT8D: In the PMNW days, JFK also saw a 757 from AMS for a couple of months at least - I have the pictures from spotting to prove it! EDIT: It occured to me
38 BoeingGuy: I recall that too. One DTW-AMS frequency was a 757 for at least a short time. The remaining frequencies were larger airplanes. Yep, I took the CDG-CV
39 PSU.DTW.SCE: NW regularly operated the 744 on a DTW-AMS departure for years, up through 2008 Post-merger and during the economic downturn this changed, and there
40 cgnnrw: I can confirm this as I flew the segment 2 or 3 times. I believe it was late 1990s....1997-2000?
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