aviatorcraig From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2010, 145 posts, RR: 0 Posted (11 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 18280 times:
Every winter Ryanair, like many other Northern Hemisphere airlines reduces its schedules to match reduced demand. This winter, Europe-wide schedules seem to be cut back more than they have been in previous years.
With many bases like Bournemouth effectively closed until March 2013, where do they park the excess 737-800s over the winter, or do they go to the Southern Hemisphere on short term leases?
Yeah, great idea. So they can test drugs, they also could use to sedate* passengers, which then can be stacked about each other in the aircraft. After MOLs wish for standing passengers, this would be another milestone in his improvement in Ryanairs smart business concept.
*The sedation fee surely will be just only bitsy 10 Euros!
PanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 8283 posts, RR: 26 Reply 19, posted (11 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 11020 times:
What a question! Did anyone expect that FR is paying the fuel and the crew costs for positioning flights from the airport where the aircraft are based to a winter hibernating spot in the Med and then back in March? Plus deadheading for the crew twice. Shocking waste of money.
Logic dictates that air craft stay where they are and that airport does not pay for parking either.
I do also like the term "self sponsored vacation". Service employees are needed by hotels in the Alps during winter.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 23169 posts, RR: 23 Reply 22, posted (11 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 10560 times:
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 19): Did anyone expect that FR is paying the fuel and the crew costs for positioning flights from the airport where the aircraft are based to a winter hibernating spot in the Med and then back in March? Plus deadheading for the crew twice. Shocking waste of money.
Not necessarily. Parking an aircraft that's going to be idle for several months is best in a dry climate, which is why many US carriers store their aircraft in desert areas. I'm not referring to aircraft that have been retired but to those out of service for a few months.
aerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2620 posts, RR: 15 Reply 23, posted (11 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 10560 times:
Quoting PanHAM (Reply 19): Plus deadheading for the crew twice. Shocking waste of money.
Cabin crew pay for their own flights (discounted, but sometimes can be more expensive than the regular fare). Also now it is impossible for staff to book flights through the staff travel system unless they are at base, it can only be booked on the intranet system.
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gilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2964 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (11 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 10537 times:
As far as I am aware none of Ryanair's aircraft are exactly parked up for the full winter months.
What Ryanair seems to do is rotate them on a weekly or fortnightly basis. So an aircraft that has been parked up for the last fortnight could be flying today and aircraft flying last week could be parked up for the next two weeks.
When I have flown into STN and DUB previous winters I have seen 20 odd aircraft parked up at both airports in the far corners of the apron.
If Ryanair or any airline for that fact parked up an aircraft for 4-6 months and was not used, would it have to go through any major maintenance checks before going back into day to day operations? I was just wondering if this was the case and hence why Ryanair rotate aircraft that are parked up.
25 skipness1E: There's a small fleet parked at PIK .
26 flyabunch: I understand times are tough, but working for a company that only gives you 900 hours per year is pretty tough in itself. I assume that they have this
27 MD11Engineer: Exactly. Up to two weeks of parking there are no special maintenance tasks required above overnight parking in cold weather. Beyond 2 weeks e.g. the
28 PanHAM: I don't like the smilies. If it was abrasive then that was regarding Scrooge O'L. It was mentioned nbefore that they rotate the aircraft at the bases
29 PanHAM: I was talking about pilots. However I would not be surprised if they had to pay for their way home if the company sends them to fly an aircraft to an
30 CaptCufflinks: There are some concessions and pilots who turn up in uniform can fly in a jump seat for free. Ironically, the uniform is something you must have boug
31 PanHAM: They could not achieve their financial results any other way. There's basically no overhead The legacy carriers could never work on that base, not ev
32 CaptCufflinks: Correct. FR are no frills not just as a transporter of pax, but as an 'employer' also. Whether this is right or wrong, and the varying shades of grey
33 PanHAM: On the contrary, I admire them for their business concept and the way they push this through. Look at the benefits for their sub-contractors, who work
34 Aer Lingus: The last I counted there were 27 "stored" airframes or those in maintenance at Stansted parked on taxiway Golf and on the stands off of Foxtrot. In ad
35 EIDL: Its the law, not an airline-specific rule. Ryanair's cabin crew are all employed in Ireland (unless something has changed - regardless of where they'
36 aerdingus: No it´s still the same for the moment, but there are talks of crew in bases changing to pay the taxes of the country they are based in.
37 EagleBoy: This is the correct answer. MoL calls it 'parking up' as theis sounds more dramatic. In reality FR just lower the weekly utilisation of each airframe