LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22041 posts, RR: 51 Posted (5 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9509 times:
Should be good for both the ethnic crowd, and tourism....
As a sign of further improved relations with the US and economic growth in Cambodia, United Airlines seeks to implement codeshare service to Phnom Penh and Siem Reap Cambodia.
United proposes to offer direct service linking its San Francisco gateway with the two Cambodia markets via Seoul Korea commencing late January utilizing connecting codeshare service operated by Asiana.
Currently the US and Cambodia do not have an air service agreement, however in the spirit of cooperation, the Cambodian CAA has approved this extra bilateral service and encourages the proposed links to the United States.
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Birdwatching From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3573 posts, RR: 52 Reply 1, posted (5 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9474 times:
Kind of an anti climax. The title says "first US - Cambodia air link" (sounds like United flying nonstop), then it turns out to be through Seoul (still good) and then it turns out it is an Asiana plane (that flew there before this announcement) with a UA flight number slapped on. What's the big news?
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DL WIDGET HEAD From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2040 posts, RR: 5 Reply 2, posted (5 months 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 9449 times:
Awesome. Hopefully Delta will do the same on KE via ICN. I visited Siem Reap last year and must say that it was fascinating. I would love to see Delta serve this route from NRT at some point.
United787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2345 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (5 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 9391 times:
Quoting Birdwatching (Reply 1): Kind of an anti climax. The title says "first US - Cambodia air link" (sounds like United flying nonstop), then it turns out to be through Seoul (still good) and then it turns out it is an Asiana plane (that flew there before this announcement) with a UA flight number slapped on. What's the big news?
It is a step forward. I would imagine the market isn't big enough for United to get into it. When I saw this, I thought it might be a tag on to the SGN service...
Exactly. All this is is a code share? Hardly newsworthy at all. I'm also sure that 99% of pax on these flights will continue to be Korean tourists, and not Americans.
DolphinAir747 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 220 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (5 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 8968 times:
Good step.
Honestly the tendency of US airlines to hub at NRT and operate through flights on their own metal is a 50s thing. I wouldn't be surprised if the increase in JVs caused UA and DL to focus more on codeshares with NH/OZ and KE.
Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8742 posts, RR: 52 Reply 7, posted (5 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 8914 times:
There is no bilateral agreement between the US and Cambodia. That means that there can't be any US marketed codeshare flights into Cambodia. UA can sell a ticket to Cambodia but only under its authority to act as a travel agent and interlining.
Allowing codeshares will let UA offer fares into Cambodia. That will make prices much more reasonable. Currently UA has to purchase a ticket on Asiana or Thai Airways which makes it very expensive since the passenger is essentially buying two tickets. This makes it uncompetitive with Korean and Asiana.
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Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21484 posts, RR: 24 Reply 8, posted (5 months 6 days ago) and read 7644 times:
Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 7): Allowing codeshares will let UA offer fares into Cambodia.
There's no need for any kind of government permission to sell interline through fares (not involving a codeshare). There isn't much difference from the passenger's point of view except the flight number.
Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8742 posts, RR: 52 Reply 11, posted (5 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6725 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 8):
There's no need for any kind of government permission to sell interline through fares (not involving a codeshare). There isn't much difference from the passenger's point of view except the flight number.
To the passenger it isn't that big of a deal if they purchase directly through the airline, but interline through fares are not priced the same way as codeshares and often will not show up in travel website searches such as Kayak.
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EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7176 posts, RR: 45 Reply 12, posted (5 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6628 times:
Quoting Roseflyer (Reply 7): That means that there can't be any US marketed codeshare flights into Cambodia. UA can sell a ticket to Cambodia but only under its authority to act as a travel agent and interlining.
Well, as Jasewgtn mentioned:
Quoting jasewgtn (Reply 9): L already code shares through ICN with KE into PNH and REP
Such a codeshare already exists. I flew last year JFK-ICN-REP (on KE but on a DL ticket with DL flight numbers).
Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8742 posts, RR: 52 Reply 15, posted (5 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6238 times:
Quoting kurt (Reply 13): The flight times from Cambodia are less than optimal.
OZ 738 REP-ICN arrives at 6:55 a.m.
OZ 740 PNH-ICN arrives at 6:50 a.m.;
while UA 892 ICN-SFO departs at 6:10 p.m. An 11-hour stopover is not very appealing.
Asiana's flights rarely seem to time well for connections to the US. Their Southeast Asia flights tend to require long layovers in ICN one way. Even BKK which they serve 2-3 times a day, they still have lousy connections. OZ doesn't even have good connections to cities like HKG.
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jasewgtn From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 816 posts, RR: 1 Reply 18, posted (5 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5540 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 17): And how does one get to the US ???
I guess you mean from the US?
From Delta.com when looking up a flight and pricing I can't get any PNH but REP is coming up just find, and personally have had friends fly DTW-MSP-ICN-REP on this arrangement.
This is an availabilty search from Delta.com DTW-REP
steex From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 1426 posts, RR: 9 Reply 19, posted (5 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 3622 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 17): Delta.com does not show PNH as even being a valid city code. Obviously they are not interested in selling the flight.
Screwy listing.
It is indeed very strange. PNH is recognized by DL's downloadable flight schedule program, and that's where I was able to find those schedules. Furthermore, if you search for something like DTW-PNH on Kayak, it will show a 1-stop DL itinerary over ICN using that codeshare, but Delta.com then (not surprisingly, as you indicated) cannot process the transaction because it doesn't recognize the PNH code.
Of course, as a Delta FF, no level of IT failure on Delta's part surprises me at this point!
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