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OAG Changes 12/21/2012:AA/BA/B6/DL/F9/NKUA/US  
User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7693 posts, RR: 15
Posted (2 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11293 times:

HOW DO I READ IT?
XXX-YYY DEC 4>5 JAN 4>5 ; means that the listed airline changed the frequency between the two airports to add from 4 to 5 roundtrips in December and January. No other months were changed. I only list one direction, although it is possible the listed change is only one way. It is too difficult to average the two directions. I assume the change is roundtrip and that is most often the case.

HOW ARE THE DAILY DEPARTURES CALCULATED?
This report uses total operations for the month listed, divided over the days in the month.

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Non-daily operations create fractional weekly service. In most cases flights are rounded, but in the case of international service or markets with low frequency, fractions are shown. If a flight operated 5 days out of 7, it would show 0.8 flights.

WHY ARE THERE WEIRD FREQUENCIES IN FAR AWAY MONTHS FOR LCCs?
Most airlines publish schedules 11 months in advance. This report covers the next 9 months. That avoids seeing schedules as they are loaded. Several LCCs load their schedules less than 9 months into the future. Their schedules may also end mid-month. If B6 loads their schedule until Jan15, all flights in Janaury will show half frequency because of the way the report is created.

WHY IS A WHOLE AIRLINE'S SCHEDULE SHOWN AS CHANGING FOR A FUTURE MONTH?
Similarly to the previous question, some airlines load their schedule from nothing inside the 9 month window of this report. When their schedule is extended it will show as new service because there was no previous schedule to compare to. In some instances I will show a more valid comparison against another period.

THOSE FLIGHTS AREN'T DELTA, THEY ARE PINNACLE
This report only shows the marketing code. It is too complicated to show all the operators.

THE FREQUENCIES MAY HAVE CHANGED AS YOU SHOW, BUT THE SEATS DIDNT CHANGE BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT SWAPS
That is a natural weakness of a frequency based report, but it provides something to discuss below.

THE FREQUENCY DOESN'T SHOW A CHANGE, E.G. 4>4
This happens as a result of rounding. There is a change in service that is large enough to be listed, but through rounding it does not appear.


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NOTE: As you might have noticed there was no update last week. For some reason the database was not updated by the schedule provider. Second time this year that occurred. Not sure if it was a mistake or if there weren't sufficient changes to warrant an update. When that happens I post it in the previous week's thread.

I marked some of the ones I thought were interesting with an "*".

9K ALB-BOS JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4

Big OW capacity reduction on BOS-LHR it appears
**AA BOS-LHR APR 2>0 MAY 3>0 JUN 3>0 JUL 3>0 AUG 3>0
AA DFW-ANC MAY 0>0.7 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0
AA DFW-ASE JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.8
AA DFW-EGE JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0
AA DFW-JAC JUN 0>0.7 JUL 0>1.1 AUG 0>1.1
AA DFW-MTJ JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.8
AA DFW-PSP MAY 3>2 JUN 3>1.4 JUL 3>1.0 AUG 3>1.2
AA JFK-PUJ JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.8
AA LAX-ASE JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.8
*AA MIA-LHR APR 1.0>2 MAY 1.0>2 JUN 1.0>2 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2
AA ORD-CUN JUN 1.2>1.1 JUL 1.1>1.0 AUG 1.2>0.9
AA ORD-HEL AUG 1.0>0.8
AA ORD-HNL JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.8
AA ORD-HNL JUN 0>0.6 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.8
AA ORD-PSP JUN 1.0>0.4 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0
AA ORD-RAP JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.8

AC DEN-YYZ JAN 1.9>1.6

AC FLL-YUL MAY 1.0>2 JUN 1.3>2 JUL 1.6>2 AUG 1.5>2
AC FLL-YYZ MAY 1.0>2 JUN 1.5>2
AC PHX-YYZ JAN 1.9>1.6

AF ORD-CDG APR 1.0>0.7 MAY 1.0>0.7

AM BRO-MTY JAN 0.3>0.4
AM FAT-GDL JAN 0.7>0.4 FEB 0.2>0.3 MAR 0.2>0.4 APR 0>0.4 MAY 0>0.4 JUN 0>0.5 JUL 0>0.4 AUG 0>0.5
AM LAX-GDL JAN 1.0>1.2
AM ORD-GDL JAN 0.2>0.4

AS ANC-LAX MAY 1.4>1.0
AS LAX-ANC MAY 1.4>1.0
AS LAX-MZT APR 0.8>0.7
AS LAX-PVR APR 2>1.8 MAY 2>1.3
AS LAX-SJD MAR 1.9>1.7 APR 2>1.7 MAY 2>1.7
AS LAX-STS MAY 1.9>3
AS LAX-ZIH APR 0.8>0.4
AS LAX-ZLO MAY 0.1>0.3
AS PDX-OGG APR 2.0>1.8
AS PDX-PHX MAY 2>1.0
AS PSP-SJC MAY 1.0>0.3
AS SEA-ANC APR 13>12 MAY 17>16 JUN 19>20 JUL 19>20 AUG 19>20
AS SEA-YVR MAR 7>6
AS SFO-PVR APR 1.0>0.8 MAY 1.0>0.9

AZ EWR-FCO APR 0.5>0 MAY 0.6>0.3 JUN 1.0>0.7 JUL 1.0>0.7 AUG 1.0>0.7
AZ JFK-FCO JUN 1.9>2 JUL 1.8>2 AUG 1.9>2

B6 changed their published schedule and also extended it. These were changes.
B6 BOS-IAD MAY 3>4
B6 BOS-NAS MAY 0.3>0
B6 BOS-PHL MAY 0>1.4
B6 BOS-SDQ MAY 0.7>0.8
B6 BOS-SEA MAY 1.4>3
B6 JFK-CLT MAY 3>2
B6 JFK-PIT FEB 1.8>1.3
B6 MCO-BUF MAY 1.8>1.0
B6 MCO-PSE MAY 1.3>1.0
B6 MCO-SYR MAY 1.8>1.0
B6 PBI-SJU MAY 1.0>0.7
B6 SEA-ANC MAY 0>0.5

This is B6's schedule extension compared to the prior year, so Summer 2013 vs. Summer 2012
B6 ANC-SEA JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0
B6 BOS-BUF JUN 5>6 JUL 5>6 AUG 5>6
B6 BOS-BWI JUN 5>6 JUL 5>6 AUG 5>6
B6 BOS-CHS JUN 0>1.1 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0
B6 BOS-DCA JUN 9>10
B6 BOS-EWR JUN 4>6 JUL 4>6 AUG 4>6
B6 BOS-IAD JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4
B6 BOS-LAS JUN 1.9>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
B6 BOS-PHL JUN 0>5 JUL 0>5 AUG 0>5
B6 BOS-PIT JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4
B6 BOS-RIC JUN 1.9>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
B6 BOS-SAN JUN 1.0>1.9
B6 BOS-SEA JUN 2.0>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
B6 BOS-SRQ JUN 0.2>1.0 JUL 0.1>1.0 AUG 0.1>1.0
B6 BUR-LAS JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0
B6 DCA-SJU JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0
B6 FLL-BOS JUL 5>6 AUG 5>6
B6 FLL-LAX JUN 1.0>2 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2
B6 FLL-PVD JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0
B6 FLL-SDQ JUN 1.0>2 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2
B6 HPN-NAS JUN 1.0>0.7 JUL 1.0>0.7 AUG 1.0>0.7
B6 JFK-ABQ JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0
B6 JFK-AZS JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3
B6 JFK-BGI JUN 1.0>0.8
B6 JFK-BUR JUN 1.9>1.0 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0
B6 JFK-CHS JUN 0>2 JUL 0>2 AUG 0>2
B6 JFK-CTG JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.4 AUG 0>0.4
B6 JFK-CUN JUN 1.8>2
B6 JFK-GCM JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.4 AUG 0>0.5
B6 JFK-MBJ JUN 1.3>1.7
B6 JFK-ORD JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2
B6 JFK-PIT JUN 2>0 JUL 2>0 AUG 2>0
B6 JFK-ROC JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5
B6 JFK-SDQ JUN 6>5
B6 JFK-STI JUN 7>6
B6 JFK-SXM JUN 1.2>1.1 JUL 1.4>1.1 AUG 1.4>1.2
B6 JFK-UVF JUN 0.6>0.8
B6 LGB-AUS JUN 1.0>2.0 JUL 1.0>2
B6 LGB-SLC JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2
B6 LGB-SMF JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2
B6 MCO-BQN AUG 1.6>1.1
B6 MCO-BQN AUG 1.7>1.2
B6 MCO-BUF JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0
B6 MCO-PSE JUN 2>1.4 AUG 1.6>1.1
B6 MCO-PVD JUN 0>2 JUL 0>2 AUG 0>2
B6 MCO-SYR JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0
B6 PBI-SJU JUN 1.0>0.8
B6 SEA-ANC JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0
B6 SJU-PUJ JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0
B6 SJU-SDQ JUN 5>4 JUL 5>4 AUG 5>4
B6 SJU-STI JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0
B6 SJU-TPA JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
B6 TPA-SJU JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3

*BA BOS-LHR APR 3>4 MAY 3>4 JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4

DL ATL-BTR MAR 8>9 APR 8>9 MAY 8>9 JUN 8>9 JUL 8>9
DL ATL-MEX MAR 3>4 APR 3>4 MAY 3>4
DL ATL-MXP MAY 0.5>0
DL ATL-MYR APR 6>7
DL ATL-TYS MAR 10>11
Hard to imagine transatlantic markets that aren't good enough to be daily in July.
*DL ATL-VCE JUN 1.0>0.9 JUL 1.0>0.8 AUG 1.0>0.9
DL ATL-VPS MAR 10>11
DL CVG-LAS MAR 1.0>0.7
DL DTW-BDL MAR 5>6
DL DTW-BHM APR 3>4 MAY 3>4
DL DTW-CMH MAR 7>8
DL DTW-DSM MAR 4>5 APR 4>5 MAY 4>5 JUN 4>5 JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5
Season shortened
*DL DTW-FCO MAY 0.5>0
DL DTW-ORF MAR 4>5
DL DTW-PHL MAR 7>8
DL HNL-KIX JUL 1.0>1.2 AUG 1.0>2
Secondary transatlantic is looking pretty weak for 2013
*DL JFK-AGP JUN 0.8>0.5 JUL 1.0>0.6 AUG 1.0>0.7
*DL JFK-ARN JUN 1.0>0.8 JUL 1.0>0.7 AUG 1.0>0.6
DL JFK-CLT APR 1.8>1.0
*DL JFK-FCO JUN 2>1.6 JUL 2>1.6 AUG 2>1.5
DL JFK-MSP JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3 AUG 4>3
*DL JFK-PSA JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0.5 AUG 1.0>0.6
DL JFK-SAN APR 1.0>1.8
DL JFK-YYZ APR 3>1.8
DL LGA-DCA MAR 12>11
DL LGA-IAH MAR 4>3
DL LGA-MCO MAY 7>6 JUN 7>6 JUL 7>6 AUG 7>6
DL LGA-TPA MAY 5>4 JUN 5>4 JUL 5>4 AUG 5>4
DL MCO-RDU APR 1.2>2 MAY 1.0>2 JUN 1.0>2 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2
*DL MEM-DSM MAR 0.8>0.0 APR 0.9>0 MAY 0.8>0 JUN 0.8>0 JUL 0.9>0 AUG 0.8>0
Wow, MEM went from AMS service to double connect to most of Europe
*DL MEM-JFK MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0
*DL SEA-KIX APR 1.0>0.6 MAY 1.0>0.6
DL SLC-BOI MAR 5>6 APR 5>6 MAY 5>6 JUN 5>6 JUL 5>6 AUG 5>6
DL SLC-DFW MAR 4>5
DL SLC-MSP MAR 5>6

EP ILL-THR JAN 1.9>1.5 FEB 1.9>1.4 MAR 1.8>1.3 APR 1.9>0 MAY 1.9>0 JUN 1.8>0 JUL 1.9>0 AUG 1.9>0

The flight doesn't even last all of March now. Hard to believe it is a seasonal drop.
*F9 DEN-AZA MAR 1.0>0.7
F9 DEN-CID MAR 0.6>0.4

*FL ATL-ICT JUN 3>0.1 JUL 3>0 AUG 0.8>0
*FL BWI-SJU JUN 2>0.1 JUL 2>0 AUG 0.6>0

G4 AZA-BLI JUN 0.6>0.4 AUG 0.6>0.4
G4 AZA-FSD JUN 0.6>0.4 AUG 0.6>0.4
G4 AZA-RAP JUN 0.6>0.4 AUG 0.6>0.4
G4 BLI-OAK JUN 0.6>0.4 AUG 0.6>0.4
G4 BLI-PSP JUN 0.6>0.4 AUG 0.6>0.4
G4 SBY-SFB JAN 0.3>0.1

HA HNL-ITO FEB 15>14 APR 15>16
HA HNL-LIH JAN 17>16 FEB 17>16 APR 18>17
HA HNL-OGG JAN 27>26 FEB 27>26 MAR 28>27 APR 28>27
HA HNL-SYD APR 1.0>1.4 MAY 1.0>1.5
HA ITO-HNL FEB 15>14 APR 15>16
HA ITO-OGG APR 2>3
HA KOA-OGG JAN 2>3 FEB 2>3 MAR 2>3
HA LAS-HNL APR 3>2 MAY 3>2
HA LIH-HNL JAN 17>16 FEB 17>16 APR 18>17
HA OAK-HNL MAY 0.5>0.7
HA OGG-HNL JAN 27>26 FEB 27>26 MAR 28>27 APR 28>27
HA OGG-ITO APR 2>3
HA OGG-KOA JAN 2>3 FEB 2>3 MAR 2>3
HA PDX-OGG MAR 0>0.2
HA SJC-HNL APR 0.4>0
HA SJC-OGG MAR 1.0>0.8

IB LAX-MAD JUL 0.5>0.6 AUG 0.4>0.6
IB MIA-MAD APR 1.4>2 MAY 1.4>2 JUN 1.4>2 JUL 1.4>2 AUG 1.4>2
IB SJU-MAD FEB 0.2>0.1 APR 0.4>0 MAY 0.4>0 JUN 0.5>0 JUL 0.4>0 AUG 0.4>0

IG JFK-NAP JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3
IG JFK-PMO JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3

JJ MCO-GIG APR 1.0>0.2 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0

JL ROR-NRT JAN 0>0.1

KE GUM-ICN MAR 2>1.0
KE LAS-ICN MAY 0.5>0.6 JUN 0.4>0.6 JUL 0.5>0.6 AUG 0.4>0.5

*KX DFW-GCM APR 0>0.2 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3
KX JFK-GCM MAY 0.4>0.5 JUN 0.5>0.6 JUL 0.4>0.5 AUG 0.4>0.6

LA JFK-LIM APR 1.6>1.4 MAY 1.6>1.5 JUN 1.6>1.4 JUL 1.6>1.4 AUG 1.6>1.5
LA LAX-LIM APR 1.0>1.9 MAY 1.0>1.8
LA MIA-GIG APR 0>0.2
LA MIA-LIM APR 3>0.3 MAY 3>0.3 JUN 3>0.3 JUL 3>0.3 AUG 3>0.3
*LA SFO-LIM APR 0>0.6 MAY 0>0.6 JUN 0>0.6 JUL 0>0.6 AUG 0>0.6

LH PHL-FRA APR 0.7>0.8 MAY 0.7>0.9 JUN 0.7>0.9 JUL 0.7>0.8 AUG 0.7>0.9

LI SJU-SXM JAN 0>0.4 FEB 0>0.6 MAR 0>0.6 APR 0>0.6 MAY 0>0.6 JUN 0>0.6 JUL 0>0.6 AUG 0>0.6
LI STT-AXA JAN 1.0>0.8 FEB 1.0>0.7 MAR 1.0>0.7 APR 1.0>0.7 MAY 1.0>0.7 JUN 1.0>0.7 JUL 1.0>0.7 AUG 1.0>0.7
LI STX-SXM JAN 0.9>0.6 FEB 1.0>0.6 MAR 1.0>0.6 APR 1.0>0.6 MAY 1.0>0.5 JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0.5 AUG 1.0>0.6

LW AHN-ATL JAN 1.7>0 FEB 1.7>0 MAR 1.7>0 APR 1.7>0 MAY 1.7>0 JUN 1.7>0 JUL 1.7>0 AUG 1.7>0

M5 FBS-LKE APR 1.0>4 MAY 1.0>5 JUN 1.0>5 JUL 1.0>5 AUG 1.0>5
M5 KEH-SEA JUN 0>0.9 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0
M5 KEH-YMP JUN 0>0.6 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0
M5 KEH-ZNA MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.8 AUG 0>1.9
M5 LKE-YGG MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0
M5 LKE-YWH MAR 2>3 APR 1.0>4 MAY 1.0>5 JUN 1.0>5 JUL 1.0>5 AUG 1.0>5

MU SFO-PVG APR 0>0.2 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0

NK DFW-MSP APR 0.2>0.9
NK DFW-PHL APR 0.2>0.9
They drop these completely for April?
*NK FLL-KIN APR 0.2>0 MAY 1.0>0.7
*NK FLL-NAS APR 0.2>0 MAY 1.0>0.3

OS JFK-VIE FEB 1.0>0.9

PR GUM-MNL MAY 3>4 JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4

RJ JFK-AMM APR 0.6>0.7 MAY 0.6>0.7

SK EWR-CPH JUN 1.4>1.5 JUL 1.4>1.6 AUG 1.5>1.6

*SU MIA-SVO APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3

UA CLE-IND MAY 5>6
UA DEN-GRR MAY 1.0>1.9
UA DEN-JAC MAY

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User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7693 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (2 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11393 times:

UA DEN-JAC MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3 AUG 2>3
UA DEN-MSN MAY 3>4
UA DEN-MSO MAY 3>4 JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4
UA DEN-SJD JUN 0.3>0.5
UA DEN-TPA MAY 1.8>1.0
UA DEN-TUL MAY 4>5
UA DEN-YVR MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3
UA EWR-PVR JUN 0.2>0.3
UA FLL-GNV MAR 0.6>0.4 JUN 0.6>0.4 AUG 0.6>0.4
UA IAD-AUS MAY 2>3
UA IAD-PVD MAY 4>3
UA IAD-ROA MAY 2>3
UA IAD-YHZ JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.8
UA IAD-YUL MAY 3>4 JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4
UA IAH-MCO MAY 6>7 JUN 6>7 JUL 6>7 AUG 6>7
UA IAH-MLM MAY 0.8>1.0
*UA IAH-RAP JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.8
UA LAX-ABQ MAY 3>1.7
UA LAX-BWI MAY 0.9>1.9
UA LAX-BZN JUN 0.8>0.4
UA LAX-CLE MAY 2>3
UA LAX-EWR APR 7>12 MAY 8>13 JUN 8>14 JUL 8>14 AUG 8>13
UA LAX-IAD MAY 8>9
UA LAX-LAS MAY 4>5
UA LAX-PHX MAY 4>3
UA LAX-PSP MAY 5>6
UA LAX-SAN MAY 13>14
UA LAX-SLC MAY 3>1.8
UA ORD-ALB MAY 5>3
UA ORD-BTV MAY 4>3
UA ORD-BWI MAY 6>5
UA ORD-CHS MAY 4>5 JUN 4>5 JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5
UA ORD-CMH MAY 7>8
UA ORD-EWR MAY 14>15
UA ORD-FLL MAY 2>1.0 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 1.9>1.0
UA ORD-LAX MAY 13>12
UA ORD-MDT MAY 6>5
UA ORD-MHT MAY 3>1.9
UA ORD-MIA MAY 3>2 JUN 3>2 JUL 3>2 AUG 3>2
UA ORD-MSP MAY 12>11
UA ORD-OKC MAY 5>4
UA ORD-ORF MAY 5>4
UA ORD-PDX MAY 4>5 JUN 4>5 JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5
UA ORD-SAN MAY 5>4
UA ORD-SEA MAY 6>5
UA ORD-SJD JUN 0.2>0.3
UA ORD-SPI MAY 4>3
UA ORD-SYR MAY 5>6
UA ORD-TUL MAY 5>4
UA ORD-YQB MAY 1.0>2 JUN 1.0>2 JUL 1.0>2 AUG 1.0>2
UA ORD-YUL MAY 5>6 JUN 5>6 JUL 5>6 AUG 5>6
UA ORD-YYC MAY 4>5 JUN 4>5 JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5
UA SEA-ANC APR 2>1.9
UA SFO-ABQ MAY 1.0>1.9
UA SFO-ACV MAY 8>6
UA SFO-BOS MAY 6>7
UA SFO-BZN JUN 0.8>0.6
UA SFO-DEN MAY 9>10
UA SFO-EUG MAY 7>6
UA SFO-EWR APR 8>13 MAY 8>14 JUN 8>15 JUL 8>16 AUG 8>15
*UA SFO-FLL APR 0>0.8 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.8
UA SFO-LAS MAY 10>9
UA SFO-LAX APR 14>13
UA SFO-MCI MAY 3>2
UA SFO-MFR MAY 7>6
UA SFO-MSO JUN 0.8>0.4
UA SFO-ORD MAY 15>12
UA SFO-PDX MAY 9>8
UA SFO-RDM MAY 3>2
UA SFO-SEA MAY 9>7
UA SFO-SNA MAY 7>8
UA SFO-YVR MAY 4>5 JUN 4>5

*UN JFK-DME FEB 0.4>0.3 MAR 0.5>0.4 APR 0.6>0 MAY 0.8>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0
UN JFK-VKO APR 0>0.6 MAY 0>0.8 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>0.9 AUG 0>0.7
UN LAX-DME APR 0>0.2 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3 AUG 0>0.3
*UN LAX-VKO APR 0.2>0 MAY 0.3>0 JUN 0.3>0 JUL 0.3>0 AUG 0.3>0

*US CLT-GRU MAY 0>0.9 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0
*US CLT-LGW APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0
*US CLT-LHR APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0
Interesting drop, must be low yield
*US CLT-YUL APR 1.6>1.0 MAY 1.9>1.0 JUN 1.8>1.0 JUL 1.9>1.0 AUG 1.8>1.0
US DCA-BTV FEB 3>4 MAR 3>4 APR 3>4 MAY 3>4 JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4
US DCA-BUF FEB 3>4 MAR 3>4 APR 3>4 MAY 3>4 JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4
US DCA-CVG FEB 3>4 MAR 3>4 APR 3>4 MAY 3>4 JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4
US DCA-LIT FEB 1.6>0.8 MAR 1.7>0.8 APR 1.7>0.9 MAY 1.7>0.9 JUN 1.7>0.8 JUL 1.7>0.9 AUG 1.7>0.8
Carriers starting to fill in for lost DL capacity
*US DCA-MEM FEB 3>4 MAR 3>4 APR 3>4 MAY 3>4 JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4
This was the poster child for goofy routes
*US DCA-XNA FEB 0.8>0.0 MAR 0.8>0 APR 0.9>0 MAY 0.9>0 JUN 0.8>0 JUL 0.9>0 AUG 0.8>0
Good ole US, added a few routes to show the value of getting more slots and then add another BUF ultimately
US DCA-YOW FEB 1.5>0.1 MAR 1.7>0 APR 1.7>0 MAY 1.7>0 JUN 1.7>0 JUL 1.7>0 AUG 1.7>0

VA LAX-SYD FEB 1.0>0.9

VB IAH-MTY APR 0.1>0.6 MAY 0>0.6 JUN 0>0.6 JUL 0>0.6 AUG 0>0.5
VB SAT-MTY FEB 0.3>0.4 APR 0.1>0.4 MAY 0>0.4 JUN 0>0.4 JUL 0>0.4 AUG 0>0.4

*VX EWR-LAX APR 0>3 MAY 0>3 JUN 0>3 JUL 0>3 AUG 0>1.7
*VX EWR-SFO APR 0>3 MAY 0>3 JUN 0>3 JUL 0>3 AUG 0>1.8

WG FLL-YQB JAN 0.4>0.5 FEB 0.4>0.6 MAR 0.4>0.5 APR 0.1>0.3
WG MCO-YYZ JAN 0.7>0.5

WN making schedule adjustments to a closed schedule.  I've never seen them do swaps to a closed schedule before. This is a huge deal. Previously I've only seen them rarely drop or add a line of flying due to fleet changes.
WN BKG-HOU JUN 2.0>1.0 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 0.6>0.3
WN BKG-MDW JUN 1.0>2.0 JUL 1.0>2
WN BNA-CLE JAN 1.8>3 FEB 1.9>3 MAR 1.8>3
WN CMH-TPA MAR 3>4
WN LIT-MCO MAR 0>1.0
WN MCI-PHX MAR 3>4
WN MCO-OKC MAR 0>1.0
WN STL-TPA MAR 3>4

XL JFK-GYE APR 1.6>1.3 MAY 1.5>1.3 JUN 1.6>1.4

Y4 LAS-GDL MAR 1.0>1.1 APR 1.0>1.3 MAY 1.0>1.3 JUN 1.0>1.3 JUL 1.0>1.3 AUG 1.0>1.3
Y4 LAS-MEX MAR 1.2>1.4 APR 1.1>2 MAY 1.1>2 JUN 1.2>2 JUL 1.1>2 AUG 1.1>2
Y4 LAX-MEX APR 0.6>1.0 MAY 0.5>1.0 JUN 0.6>1.0 JUL 0.5>1.0 AUG 0.6>1.0
Y4 LAX-MLM APR 0.7>1.0 MAY 0.7>1.0 JUN 0.7>1.0 JUL 0.7>1.0 AUG 0.7>1.0
Y4 MCO-MEX APR 0.1>0.3 MAY 0.1>0.3 JUN 0.2>0.3 JUL 0.1>0.3 AUG 0.2>0.3
Y4 OAK-GDL JAN 3>1.8
Y4 OAK-MEX MAR 0>0.2 APR 0>0.6 MAY 0>0.5 JUN 0>0.6 JUL 0>0.5 AUG 0>0.6
Y4 SAN-GDL MAR 0>0.3 APR 0>0.5 MAY 0>0.6 JUN 0>0.6 JUL 0>0.5 AUG 0>0.6
Y4 SAN-MEX APR 0.6>1.0 MAY 0.5>1.0 JUN 0.6>1.0 JUL 0.5>1.0 AUG 0.6>1.0
Y4 SMF-GDL JAN 0.3>0.5 FEB 0.3>0.4

YV HNL-KOA JAN 7>6 FEB 7>6
YV HNL-LIH JAN 6>5
YV KOA-HNL JAN 7>6 FEB 7>6
YV LIH-HNL JAN 6>5

ZK DIK-ISN JAN 1.0>0 FEB 1.0>0 MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0


User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7693 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (2 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11267 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
The flight doesn't even last all of March now. Hard to believe it is a seasonal drop.
*F9 DEN-AZA MAR 1.0>0.7

BTW, just to pour salt on the wound, March is easily the best month for Phoenix-Denver. Denver-ites go to Phoenix to get warm and the reverse go in huge numbers to ski. So, the argument this is a seasonal reduction is nonsense. The route just sucks and they may or may not return. That, apparently, is the definition of seasonal nowadays.


User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6733 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (2 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11170 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
Wow, MEM went from AMS service to double connect to most of Europe
*DL MEM-JFK MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0

A little overdramatic....most major European markets are easily reachable through ATL/DTW with a single connection.

Sure, you can't get to AGP or PSA, but how many people from MEM go to those places?


User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6733 posts, RR: 24
Reply 4, posted (2 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11107 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
Carriers starting to fill in for lost DL capacity
*US DCA-MEM FEB 3>4 MAR 3>4 APR 3>4 MAY 3>4 JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4 AUG 3>4
This was the poster child for goofy routes
*US DCA-XNA FEB 0.8>0.0 MAR 0.8>0 APR 0.9>0 MAY 0.9>0 JUN 0.8>0 JUL 0.9>0 AUG 0.8>0
Good ole US, added a few routes to show the value of getting more slots and then add another BUF ultimately
US DCA-YOW FEB 1.5>0.1 MAR 1.7>0 APR 1.7>0 MAY 1.7>0 JUN 1.7>0 JUL 1.7>0 AUG 1.7>0

All the more reason not to award the DCA-OKC route to US. They have plenty of slots available to launch the route.


User currently offlineANA787 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 342 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11069 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
HA PDX-OGG MAR 0>0.2

Hopefully they bring back PDX-OGG year round!

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):

HA SJC-HNL APR 0.4>0
HA SJC-OGG MAR 1.0>0.8

HA is dropping SJC-HNL?


User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5702 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (2 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11067 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN making schedule adjustments to a closed schedule. I've never seen them do swaps to a closed schedule before. This is a huge deal. Previously I've only seen them rarely drop or add a line of flying due to fleet changes.
WN CMH-TPA MAR 3>4
WN LIT-MCO MAR 0>1.0
WN MCI-PHX MAR 3>4
WN MCO-OKC MAR 0>1.0
WN STL-TPA MAR 3>4

I have seen it before, I don't know if it's due to "aircraft changes", but it is always marked as a last minute seasonal change, this was announced last week, here is the article for it.

http://www.blogsouthwest.com/blog/extra-seasonal-florida-service-2013



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User currently offlineblr380 From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 11046 times:

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 3):
Big OW capacity reduction on BOS-LHR it appears

Not really a big OW reduction - infact a significant increase with multiple 744 frequency on BA (I would take a 744 anyday than 757), plus a great service. I guess this is the end of AA shop in BOS, at least internationally. Sad, they had a good presence of Eagle flights to connect to regional cities, CDG and other markets. I hope AA at least increases its domestic options in BOS with BA, JAL and other OW options to come (QR? )

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 3):
Wow, MEM went from AMS service to double connect to most of Europe
*DL MEM-JFK MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0

Indeed overdramatic - You can reach most European markets through ATL/DTW one-stop. That is plentiful for MEM with really no big local business demand for TATL flights.


User currently offlineflyiguy From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1158 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 11005 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
UA LAX-EWR APR 7>12 MAY 8>13 JUN 8>14 JUL 8>14 AUG 8>13

This is a big increase? Preparation to kill off VX on the route ?

FLY



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User currently offlineSouthernDC9 From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 456 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10989 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
This was the poster child for goofy routes
*US DCA-XNA FEB 0.8>0.0 MAR 0.8>0 APR 0.9>0 MAY 0.9>0 JUN 0.8>0 JUL 0.9>0 AUG 0.8>0

This flight had a lot wrong with it, the time was weird (I love the LIT and JAN flights that leave late in the evening, but the XNA flight leaves at around 2 or some such)... PLUS it's a 3 hour flight on a CRJ which is pretty much a deal breaker for me (of course RJs are pretty much the norm in XNA on anything but AA, but I can deal with it on a shorter connecting flight and I really don't mind the ERJ all that much).

XNA is a weird little airport, though - out in the middle of nowhere, primarily centered on business traffic (primarily Wal-Mart) so the fares are astronomical... more often than not, in my experience, the planes are half empty (though in theory the yields are okay on the seats that are sold, but who knows)... I flew through CVG from there last year and there were 8 of us on the flight...



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User currently offlineSANFan From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 5603 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (2 years 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10886 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
HA LAS-HNL APR 3>2 MAY 3>2
HA OAK-HNL MAY 0.5>0.7
HA PDX-OGG MAR 0>0.2
HA SJC-HNL APR 0.4>0
HA SJC-OGG MAR 1.0>0.8

Interesting changes on the horizon for HA's mainland flights for next year; another thread talked about LA-OGG flights going double daily as well... It will be interesting to see how their complete summer schedule will look. Will there be net increases or decreases in certain markets or will there just be more shifts from HNL to Maui flying as we've already seen from the Bay area?

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
Y4 SAN-GDL MAR 0>0.3 APR 0>0.5 MAY 0>0.6 JUN 0>0.6 JUL 0>0.5 AUG 0>0.6
Y4 SAN-MEX APR 0.6>1.0 MAY 0.5>1.0 JUN 0.6>1.0 JUL 0.5>1.0 AUG 0.6>1.0

This is looking encouraging for a change. Of course next week's report could easily reverse all this good news!

Good to see the report back again enilria; it was missed last week. Thanks again for your efforts.

bb


User currently offlineAVLAirlineFreq From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 1082 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10788 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
US DCA-YOW FEB 1.5>0.1 MAR 1.7>0 APR 1.7>0 MAY 1.7>0 JUN 1.7>0 JUL 1.7>0 AUG 1.7>0

Is AC also on this route? Hasn't this been flown previously, or is it relatively new?


User currently offlinecommavia From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 11974 posts, RR: 62
Reply 12, posted (2 years 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10749 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
AA DFW-ASE JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.8
AA DFW-EGE JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
AA LAX-ASE JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.8

Interesting. I think we can now call AA/Eagle to ASE a success if they're already making it summer-seasonal (from both DFW and LAX) like EGE has been for several years. Good to see.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
Hard to imagine transatlantic markets that aren't good enough to be daily in July.
Season shortened
Secondary transatlantic is looking pretty weak for 2013

It's inevitable. The European economy is generally doing so atrociously right now, and more and more commercial activity is shifting to other parts of the world. DL made a big bet on secondary Europe (particularly from JFK) in the last 5 years, and while building up their JFK network that likely made perfect sense. But now, with what is happening economically and geopolitically in that part of the world, it realistically makes sense to generally retreat to larger 'core' Europe markets, and to alliance hubs (CDG and AMS, primarily). DL (and AA and UA) is better off focusing more attention on other parts of the world right now.


User currently onlineusflyguy From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10666 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN LIT-MCO MAR 0>1.0
WN MCO-OKC MAR 0>1.0

2 new markets added... The only cut was BKG-HOU.



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User currently offlineHeeseokKoo From South Korea, joined Jan 2005, 666 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (2 years 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10607 times:

Quoting flyiguy (Reply 8):
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
UA LAX-EWR APR 7>12 MAY 8>13 JUN 8>14 JUL 8>14 AUG 8>13

This is a big increase? Preparation to kill off VX on the route ?

Same for SFO-EWR. Looking up the schedule, these routes now have flights almost every hour. Very attractive schedule, but huge capacity increase.


User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3258 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (2 years 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10582 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
HA SJC-HNL APR 0.4>0
HA SJC-OGG MAR 1.0>0.8

Is this real? Did AS's new SJC-HNL 738 flight drive HA out of the market? I didn't think HA's SJC-OGG flight was daily anyway, so that latter change isn't a surprise.


User currently offlineEricR From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 1904 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10519 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
*US DCA-XNA FEB 0.8>0.0 MAR 0.8>0 APR 0.9>0 MAY 0.9>0 JUN 0.8>0 JUL 0.9>0 AUG 0.8>0
Good ole US, added a few routes to show the value of getting more slots and then add another BUF ultimately

You have to follow the money. If the route does not work, why keep it. No difference than any other carrier.


User currently offlinebobloblaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1725 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10429 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
AA ORD-RAP JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.8
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
AA DFW-ASE JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.8
AA DFW-EGE JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>1.0
AA DFW-JAC JUN 0>0.7 JUL 0>1.1 AUG 0>1.1
AA DFW-MTJ JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.8
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
AA LAX-ASE JUL 0>1.0 AUG 0>0.8

Looks like revenue guarantees. ASE will be a CR7, not sure about the rest.


User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4616 posts, RR: 23
Reply 18, posted (2 years 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10392 times:

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 13):
2 new markets added... The only cut was BKG-HOU.

Which these are only seasonal for Feb-Apr.


User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7693 posts, RR: 15
Reply 19, posted (2 years 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 10109 times:

Quoting blr380 (Reply 7):
Indeed overdramatic - You can reach most European markets through ATL/DTW one-stop. That is plentiful for MEM with really no big local business demand for TATL flights.
Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 3):
A little overdramatic....most major European markets are easily reachable through ATL/DTW with a single connection.

Sure, you can't get to AGP or PSA, but how many people from MEM go to those places?

You can't get to Berlin without a double connect even in the Summer. I wouldn't say that is overly dramatic.

Quoting FlyPNS1 (Reply 4):
All the more reason not to award the DCA-OKC route to US. They have plenty of slots available to launch the route.

Absolutely right. They are just hoarding slots, just like they always do.

Quoting ANA787 (Reply 5):
HA is dropping SJC-HNL?

Just for a month. I guess April sucks?

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 6):
I have seen it before, I don't know if it's due to "aircraft changes", but it is always marked as a last minute seasonal change, this was announced last week, here is the article for it.

I know it's real, but I've never seen them do both adds and subtracts in a closed schedule. Maybe it's the second time they have done it and I missed the first, but that's a big deal.

Quoting blr380 (Reply 7):
Not really a big OW reduction - infact a significant increase with multiple 744 frequency on BA (I would take a 744 anyday than 757), plus a great service. I guess this is the end of AA shop in BOS, at least internationally. Sad, they had a good presence of Eagle flights to connect to regional cities, CDG and other markets. I hope AA at least increases its domestic options in BOS with BA, JAL and other OW options to come (QR? )

6 flights to 4 is not a big change? It is to me.

Quoting SANFan (Reply 10):
Good to see the report back again enilria; it was missed last week. Thanks again for your efforts.

Thanks...hope they keep updating the database weekly again. Who knows with the holidays.

Quoting commavia (Reply 12):
It's inevitable. The European economy is generally doing so atrociously right now, and more and more commercial activity is shifting to other parts of the world.

I had hoped 2013 was looking better.

Quoting usflyguy (Reply 13):
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN LIT-MCO MAR 0>1.0
WN MCO-OKC MAR 0>1.0
2 new markets added... The only cut was BKG-HOU.

That's cool. Too bad they only last a month.

Quoting HeeseokKoo (Reply 14):
Quoting flyiguy (Reply 8):
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
UA LAX-EWR APR 7>12 MAY 8>13 JUN 8>14 JUL 8>14 AUG 8>13

This is a big increase? Preparation to kill off VX on the route ?

Same for SFO-EWR. Looking up the schedule, these routes now have flights almost every hour. Very attractive schedule, but huge capacity increase.

Wow, I missed that. What an attack of VX. If I was VX I'd run to DOT/DOJ and cry my eyes out.

Quoting EricR (Reply 16):
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
*US DCA-XNA FEB 0.8>0.0 MAR 0.8>0 APR 0.9>0 MAY 0.9>0 JUN 0.8>0 JUL 0.9>0 AUG 0.8>0
Good ole US, added a few routes to show the value of getting more slots and then add another BUF ultimately

You have to follow the money. If the route does not work, why keep it. No difference than any other carrier.

With US you have to follow the politics:
Step 1: Find weak little market with strong political support in Washington.
Step 2: Goad DOT/FAA into awarding a slot or approving a slot transfer to allow this poor community to be served.
Step 3: Stroke the politicians to support it and say how they deserve service and only US will provide it.
Step 4: Gets slots and operate flight for as short as possible.
Step 5: Tell the community they did not support the flight, maybe they can try again in the future.
Step 6: Hide slot in another market by downgrading equipment to smaller aircraft, jacking up fares, but increasing frequency. (or increase flights to PHL until they depart every 6 minutes on Cessna 172s)
Step 7: Wash, rinse, repeat...


User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7693 posts, RR: 15
Reply 20, posted (2 years 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 10092 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
UA SFO-EWR APR 8>13 MAY 8>14 JUN 8>15 JUL 8>16 AUG 8>15
Quoting HeeseokKoo (Reply 14):
Quoting flyiguy (Reply 8):
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
UA LAX-EWR APR 7>12 MAY 8>13 JUN 8>14 JUL 8>14 AUG 8>13
This is a big increase? Preparation to kill off VX on the route ?
Same for SFO-EWR. Looking up the schedule, these routes now have flights almost every hour. Very attractive schedule, but huge capacity increase.
Quoting flyiguy (Reply 8):
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
UA LAX-EWR APR 7>12 MAY 8>13 JUN 8>14 JUL 8>14 AUG 8>13
This is a big increase? Preparation to kill off VX on the route ?
FLY

Just saw they did the same thing in EWR-SFO. That is one of the most blatantly anti-competitive things I've ever seen. DOT should slap them for that. A 75% frequency increase is beyond what is reasonable. Shame on them.


User currently offlineAVLAirlineFreq From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 1082 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 10078 times:

Quoting commavia (Reply 12):
It's inevitable. The European economy is generally doing so atrociously right now, and more and more commercial activity is shifting to other parts of the world. DL made a big bet on secondary Europe (particularly from JFK) in the last 5 years, and while building up their JFK network that likely made perfect sense. But now, with what is happening economically and geopolitically in that part of the world, it realistically makes sense to generally retreat to larger 'core' Europe markets, and to alliance hubs (CDG and AMS, primarily). DL (and AA and UA) is better off focusing more attention on other parts of the world right now.

The outlook for southern Europe's economy (Spain, Portugal, Italy, Greece) is particularly bleak right now.


User currently offlineplanespotting From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3539 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (2 years 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9969 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
DL DTW-DSM MAR 4>5 APR 4>5 MAY 4>5 JUN 4>5 JUL 4>5 AUG 4>5

I'm starting to wonder if DTW-DSM is going to go mainline at some point. I believe on the schedule this change is made up of 3x CR9 and 2x CRJ (328 seats per day), which you could easily cut to 2x A319 and 1x CR9 and keep the exact same capacity ... basically doing to DTW-DSM what they've done to ATL-DSM. Or on a longer out timeline, perhaps 2x 717 and 1x CR9 and reduce capacity.

Either way, that would seem to fit with DL's strategy to reduce 50 seat flying.



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User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7693 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (2 years 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 9845 times:

Quoting planespotting (Reply 22):
I'm starting to wonder if DTW-DSM is going to go mainline at some point.

With Pinnacle's whole fleet of 140 CRJs going away it would seem such things are likely.


User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4317 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (2 years 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 9636 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
ld
*US CLT-YUL APR 1.6>1.0 MAY 1.9>1.0 JUN 1.8>1.0 JUL 1.9>1.0 AUG 1.8>1.0

Not really an interesting Drop....these planes are often going out only 60 percent full on this route. This is a capacity adjustment to rightsize the route.

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
US DCA-YOW FEB 1.5>0.1 MAR 1.7>0 APR 1.7>0 MAY 1.7>0 JUN 1.7>0 JUL 1.7>0 AUG 1.7>0

Interesting that Capital to Capital isn't working very well. Another factor in play here is that the planes on this route are often affected by ZW maintenance routings, so what would happen with three YOW ron's is that ZW would send planes in CLT up to YOW to rotate them into a MX base the following day. Not sure if thats in play here or not.

Quoting enilria (Reply 19):
With US you have to follow the politics:
Step 1: Find weak little market with strong political support in Washington.
Step 2: Goad DOT/FAA into awarding a slot or approving a slot transfer to allow this poor community to be served.
Step 3: Stroke the politicians to support it and say how they deserve service and only US will provide it.
Step 4: Gets slots and operate flight for as short as possible.
Step 5: Tell the community they did not support the flight, maybe they can try again in the future.
Step 6: Hide slot in another market by downgrading equipment to smaller aircraft, jacking up fares, but increasing frequency. (or increase flights to PHL until they depart every 6 minutes on Cessna 172s)
Step 7: Wash, rinse, repeat...

The thing is that of the three slots being used to add frequency to BTV, BUF, and CVG, two of them are coming from YOW, and XNA is the only one that fits into this description. There is probably no lobbying in Washington from any politician for two YOW frequencies, but there is plenty from the other three cities, especially CVG. XNA did make no sense to me at all, but if you look at all the other smaller markets out there, all of them are being spared this round.


25 FlyPNS1 : I hope you are joking. Otherwise, how many people go from MEM to Berlin everyday? 1? 2? 3?
26 enilria : I assumed they were full with low yield Florida traffic. Surprising. This is at least the second time they have exited the route. They tried it 10 or
27 mariner : I'm puzzled - as often - that some of the Frontier adds don't appear here. DEN-TYS is back for the coming summer season - it's available for sale - b
28 Post contains images PHX787 : BUT wit the additional BA flight, would this be an A380 route? What equipment does this one operate on? An odd addition, is this a bug or some sort o
29 enilria : This report only shows changes in the schedule. DEN-TYS was not loaded into F9's schedule via a change. It was probably in their schedule extension.
30 Post contains images RDH3E : C'mon guys, MEM-EWR-TXL. Just have to choose the right airline....
31 FlyPNS1 : Yes. Memphis produces minimal traffic to these secondary markets, so the fact that they have to double connect is not important.
32 mariner : That's confusing to me. It wasn't loaded in the schedule extension, it has only just appeared - some time after the schedule extension was posted. Yo
33 Post contains links PHX787 : Is HNL-NRT operated by a 744 as well? Well I knew the "source" thing but No, ROR isn't a part of the US, but rather, we give them "defense, funding,
34 SouthernDC9 : Now in NW Arkansas's defense (I have sort of a love/hate relationship with the area) it's not completely podunk - it has been a booming little area (
35 steex : I don't have the numbers, but looking at it from the viewpoint of travel market to/from MEM, I wouldn't be surprised if Berlin is similar to Malaga a
36 mah4546 : MEMBER is ~1 PDEW, MEMPSA and MEMAGP smaller. Even London is only ~20 PDEW, and Amsterdam only ~15 PDEW.
37 fjnovak1 : I lived in NW Arkansas for almost five years and know the area somewhat. Couple thoughts: A) the service probably wasn't marketed much if at all. US
38 Post contains images ouboy79 : February 15 to April 13th is a bit longer than a month, at least by the math I was taught. For those that didn't care (or bother) to read Bill's blog
39 NWADTWE16 : What was the original reason the DTWKIX flight was cxld? Im pretty sure NW did it and not DL but it was always packed..now SEAKIX is being lessenned.
40 NWA330nut : Any idea what is up with Italy? More of a focus through AMS and CDG?
41 PSU.DTW.SCE : DTW-KIX was in late 2008/early 2009, right around the time of the merger but also at the depths of the US economic downturn. KIX was an extremely hig
42 southwest737500 : I fly the CRJ 700 flight all the time....[Edited 2012-12-18 18:41:08]
43 N62NA : Insane. Is it? They're (at least on EWR-LAX) almost all 738s. What a lousy offering from the "Star Alliance NYC Gateway." Well, VX has the superior p
44 usflyguy : Going from one large UA hub to another, it's going to be hard for VX to get any premium, high-yielding traffic.
45 N62NA : Well, they'll just need 8 people and they've got their F cabin full. With the right marketing to get the message out that their product in Y is super
46 iowaman : I wonder what will happen to the CR9 maintenance base in DSM then? It appears MEM-DSM is disappearing next Spring, maybe the additional DTW-DSM fligh
47 NWADTWE16 : Im hoping they are starting finally to expand the banks out of DTW..i think that increasing frequency using this route as an example along with the o
48 Post contains images MaverickM11 : How's that working out for them ?
49 NWADTWE16 : Hows the MD11 working out?
50 NWA330nut : Could you expand on this a bit more? I consider June - August mostly summer time so the way it seems is that there is a massive shortage of demand (d
51 FSDan : You beat me to it! Maybe MEM-ORD-TXL as well on AA/AB. Also, it's noteworthy that even if MEM-JFK were not ending, you still wouldn't be able to get
52 boilerla : Right now LAX/SFO-EWR is one of the toughest upgrades in the UA system. Many times the F cabin is sold out a week in advance and nobody gets a CPU un
53 Post contains links apodino : Dropping like flies? This is only two markets we are talking about? I can't name one other market that has been dropped since this deal went through.
54 southwest737500 : I hope that with DL cutting some frequency from JFK CLT I hope that helps B6 I would hate to see them go
55 PSU.DTW.SCE : Don't read too much into this one. DL is going 1x daily JFK-CLT in January-March, and now just extended it out through April. The 2nd daily flight th
56 Post contains images enilria : I completely disagree. MEM provides minimal traffic to all markets. Not fair to single out secondary markets. The point is that MEM has fallen from a
57 PSU.DTW.SCE : ATL, DTW, MSP, CVG, (LGA bus connection to JFK) The point is that MEM-JFK is not sustainable since it has minimal domestic connections, minimal O&
58 Coronado : At the Investor's Day conference last week (Dec 12th) Delta gave guidance that they expect net profits after tax in excess of 1.6bn in 2012, and are p
59 FlyPNS1 : But that's blatantly false. MEM has service to ATL, DTW which are both DL transatlantic gateways. Not to mention places like ORD and EWR. Wrong. VPS
60 AVLAirlineFreq : DCA-AVL has run only 1x/week just during the summer for a few years (and I'm not even sure it's run every summer during that time) . Is DCA-YHZ weekl
61 apodino : Again I raise the BS flag. DFW for starters is an AA monopoly route and it is not a route that US is going to do well on without the merger. YHZ was
62 mariner : Then I don't know how it operates, or how there could be a reduction - as posted here - in TTN-MCO when there wasn't in reality. But as I said - your
63 HVNandrew : As indicated above, DL isn't pulling away from the NYC-CLT market. They have very healthy service levels to CLT out of LGA. This is just an example o
64 enilria : Yes, MEM has service to transatlantic gateways. Most of those hubs you mention only have service to 3 or 4 Europe destinations year round. While that
65 mariner : It isn't a question of "not believing you." If you say that is what the information is, I have no reason not to believe you. It isn't personal. But y
66 apodino : I respectfully disagree with your assessment....and you seem to be making mountains out of anthills. First of all...as I clearly stated before....US
67 HPRamper : While US may not need or deserve the OKC slot, there is nothing inherently wrong with what they are doing at DCA or for that matter what they did at
68 N62NA : UA has a 777 out of EWR to the west coast??? No, I'm not joking. VX isn't out to dominate the route, their strategy is to offer a better customer exp
69 enilria : I wouldn't call it a problem there just has to be a filter on small frequency changes or the report would be huge. I delete G4 sometimes because many
70 mariner : I have no idea and I wouldn't be so presumptuous. All I know is that there have been inconsistencies and information which doesn't tally with what is
71 ouboy79 : I think we all appreciate seeing these reports, but we've seen several times that these reports just need to be taken with a grain of salt. They don'
72 mariner : Then I'm these threads are great for those who follow airlines that don't have many low frequency routes. mariner
73 azjubilee : For the HA changes... HNL-SJC is being seasonally cut for April and will return 4x weekly in May. OGG-SJC will remain daily, as it is now. 3x weekly H
74 SANFan : Thanks for the summary of next summer's HA mainland flying az; I will assume it's complete -- well, as accurate as anything these days can be in the
75 slcdeltarumd11 : Yeah Delta has no choice on that because of the LGA perimeter rule. Basically fly everything that needs international connections and cant be flown o
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